YTSEJAM Digest 6368
Today's Topics:
1) Prog gets a write-up in the LA Times????
by cheryl <cherylcat@earthlink.net>
2) Re: Prog gets a write-up in the LA Times????
by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
3) Re: Prog gets a write-up in the LA Times????
by "Jay Omega" <jomega@integraonline.com>
4) Re: Ytsejam DC
by Mark Peters <epididymisle@earthlink.net>
5) Athens setlist / comments
by "Aris Lambrianidis" <sithlord@hol.gr>
6) RE: Ytsejam DC
by "Todd O. Klindt" <todd@klindt.org>
7) Learning to Live - best Jordan solo ever?
by "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
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Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 19:07:53 -0800
From: cheryl <cherylcat@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Prog gets a write-up in the LA Times????
Message-ID: <3DCB2A89.7050104@earthlink.net>
This blew me away when I read it in today's paper. Usually most LA Times
music critics are beyond clueless...I don't get it. Armaggedon must be
approaching! ;-)
http://www.calendarlive.com/music/cl-wk-pop7nov07,0,2400311.story?coll=cl%2Dmusic%2Dfeatures
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Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 22:32:58 -0500
From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Prog gets a write-up in the LA Times????
Message-ID: <000901c286d7$886c3a40$9b00a8c0@SHETZ>
Great article!
However... what blasphemer said Wakeman is all that's wrong with Prog. He
rocked!
Otherwise...
who's Azigza? Maudlin of the Well? Nektar? Museo Rosenach? Izz? Mogwai?
Mercury Rev?
----- Original Message -----
From: "cheryl" <cherylcat@earthlink.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:18 PM
Subject: Prog gets a write-up in the LA Times????
> This blew me away when I read it in today's paper. Usually most LA Times
> music critics are beyond clueless...I don't get it. Armaggedon must be
> approaching! ;-)
>
>
http://www.calendarlive.com/music/cl-wk-pop7nov07,0,2400311.story?coll=cl%2D
music%2Dfeatures
>
>
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Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 23:02:00 -0600
From: "Jay Omega" <jomega@integraonline.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Prog gets a write-up in the LA Times????
Message-ID: <000d01c286e3$fbdd2eb0$92337a40@Poland>
Mike Shetzer asked:
> who's Azigza?
Near-Eastern-tinged fusion/folk/prog from California. Great
female vocalist; two full-time percussionists in addition to the
drummer; lots of "ethnic" instrumentation.
AFAIK, they only have one self-titled album. Recommended.
> Maudlin of the Well?
Insane-o stuff. They describe themselves as "astral metal."
Lonely saxophone melting into full-bore death metal crashing
into a church-organ solo winding into.... well, ya get the
picture. They don't change gears as fast as, say, Mister
Bungle... they switch styles no more than once or twice per
track. Needless to say, that web article calling them "neo-
prog" just means they're "new prog." They aren't "neo"
in the Marillion/I.Q./Shadowland sense of the word.
I have "Bath" and "Leaving Your Body Map". Both
are amazingly well-recorded (HDCD, too), and highly
recommended for the somewhat-adventurous ytsejammer.
> Nektar?
Trippier (but not really Floyd-ish) prog band from the 70s.
The website mentioned earlier calls them German, but they're
all British dudes. They just happened to all be in Germany
when they started a band. (So no bad German-accented
lyrics, if that would annoy you.)
"Remember the Future" is an excellent concept album, but
make sure you get the "Nektar approved Remaster"... the
older CD was pressed from the Quad-vinyl mix, and sounds
horrid.
> Museo Rosen[b]ach?
Italian classic prog in a symphonic vein. I have "Zarathustra",
but haven't really gotten into it yet, so no opinion on how good
it is from me. It is one of those "highly respected amongst
the Prog Cognoscenti" albums, for what that's worth.
> Izz?
Newer neo-prog (like Arena, Marillion, etc.) Again, one
album ("I Move"). More going on, musically, than your
average neo-prog band. They're good, but I haven't been
in a really neo-prog mood lately, so again, no
recommendation one way or the other.
> Mogwai?
Scottish "shoegazer" music; post-rock. Walls of distorted guitar
sound, mostly instrumental. They do a lot with dynamics and
textures in their music, much like Sigur Ros and Godspeed You
Black Emperor! and A Silver Mount Zion and others in that vein.
They aren't really minimalist, despite that description.
Start with "EP +2" or "Rock Action" or possibly "My Father,
My King". I also have "Young Team", "Come On Die Young"
and the two-disc remix stuff, but they aren't quite up to the other
three.
> Mercury Rev?
Also technically "post-rock", but from the opposite end of
the spectrum from Mogwai/Sigur Ros/gybe! Thin, fragile-
sounding male vocalist, lots of classic keyboards (mellotron!)
and intentionally low-fi, ultra-warm recording.
"Desterter's Songs" is far-and-away their best, followed by
"All Is Dream". Their older stuff could just as well be a different,
far-inferior band. I'd just get those two albums. Then buy
everything by Mogwai, then everything by Sigur Ros, then
GYBE!, then Radiohead's newer albums... hell, get Dido's album
after that, there's some decent post-rock-ish stuff on it. :-) Then
maybe get the older Rev albums. :-)
--Jay "returning to Ytseradio tomorrow night, computer-willing" Omega
--NP: Jewlia Eisenberg - Trilectic (...this is some weird shit)
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Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 03:00:34 -0600
From: Mark Peters <epididymisle@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Ytsejam DC
Message-ID: <3DCB7D32.97228435@earthlink.net>
From: "Todd O. Klindt"
> I say we put a minimum in place. Something small, like 200 Meg, but
> something, as a show of good faith. Leaches are going to be a problem.
Um - does that mean I would have to upload 200 megs over my crusty 56K
modem in order to participate? Or does that mean I would need at least
200 megs in my shared folder?
Thanks for your patience :)
Mark Peters
epididymisle@earthlink.net
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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:43:46 +0200
From: "Aris Lambrianidis" <sithlord@hol.gr>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Athens setlist / comments
Message-ID: <000001c2870b$55b599f0$2d14000a@hol.net>
Venue: Rodon Club, Athens.Both performances sold out to the best of my
knowledge.
Weather: Heavy Rain but what does that have to do with anything? :)
1st Day:
New Millenium
Mirror
Lie
Burning My Soul '96
Another Hand/ The Killing Hand
The Great Debate
Another Dimension
The Spirit Carries On
Learning To Live
15' Intermission
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
encore:
Home
Take The Time w/ Working Man/ By-tor and the Snow Dog Snippets
2nd Day:
The Glass Prison
6:00
War Inside My Head
The Test That Stumped Them All
Strange Deja Vu
Through My Words
Peruvian Skies
Instrumedley ( Ytsejam/ Metropolis pt I./ Dance Of Eternity/
Paradigm Shift/ Universal Mind/ Erotomania/ Hell's Kitchen snippets)
Another Day
Misunderstood
15' Intermission
Number Of The Beast (Gangland was a jazzy version of the
original)
encore:
Pull Me Under "there's something wrong with the metronome"
version
Since I'm reciting from memory, the track order is not accurate and I
*may* have forgotten 1-2 tracks but everything else is there. The band
seemed to be in pretty good shape, confident and tight. Sound wasn't
excellent but was satisfactory. MP really overdone it with stick
twirling, throwing them in the air, spitting and the like losing many a
sticks that way, but that's Mike for you I guess :) He gave a nice solid
performance though especially the 2nd night. TGP specifically was mind
blowing, much better than the recorded version. KJL was his usual self,
doing things totally on a professional "I'm here because I'm paid to do,
otherwise I'd be home watching NHL" manner. On an attempt to be more
interactive with the crowd, he began making a comment on the lyrical
theme of Misunderstood which concluded by saying "oh what the fuck you
ppl don't understand a thing I'm saying anyway"..which gave an awkward
feeling to the crowd (at least to me and my friends it did).
dreamer
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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:09:19 -0600
From: "Todd O. Klindt" <todd@klindt.org>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: Ytsejam DC
Message-ID: <03e601c28730$6e3f3010$4164a8c0@klindt.org>
That means you would have to be sharing at least 200 Meg, in order to
stay connected to the hub.
tk
-----Original Message-----
From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com] On Behalf Of
Mark Peters
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 3:02 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: Ytsejam DC
From: "Todd O. Klindt"
> I say we put a minimum in place. Something small, like 200 Meg, but
> something, as a show of good faith. Leaches are going to be a
> problem.
Um - does that mean I would have to upload 200 megs over my crusty 56K
modem in order to participate? Or does that mean I would need at least
200 megs in my shared folder?
Thanks for your patience :)
Mark Peters
epididymisle@earthlink.net
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Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 12:02:50 +1100
From: "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Learning to Live - best Jordan solo ever?
Message-ID: <OPEJJAPFDGDMCLAHLLIMAELBCJAA.ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
I'm referring to the reggae-ish section followed by the original KM solo in
LtL on LSFNY.
I sometimes get the feeling from Jordan that he takes it 1 step too far, and
don't always like the solos he plays in older DT songs because they don't
seem to fit in with the song as a whole. One example I can think of off the
top of my head is his stuff towards the end of The Mirror on LSFNY.
However, I think that reggae section in LtL absolutely rocks, and was
perfect to insert at that spot. Also, his interpretation of the original
solo from Kevin Moore was great. To me, that solo is much more in theme with
the song and it sounds great.
Am I alone? :P
Niall
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