YTSEJAM Digest 6353
Today's Topics:
1) Phish
by "Chris Calabrese" <ytseryche2112@hotmail.com>
2) Too Much SUCKING
by "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@zero.corp.publichost.com>
3) Tool sucks? (was Re: Phish)
by Ilia <painlessscream@yahoo.com>
4) Re: Tool sucks? (was Re: Phish)
by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
5) Re: Phish
by Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
6) Re: Tool sucks? (was Re: Phish)
by "Carlos A. Alfaro Hernandez" <calfaro@yunque.net>
7) Phish, Tool, etcetc
by "Jenny K" <echolucretia@hotmail.com>
8) Re: Economics
by schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew)
9) Re: Phish, Tool, etcetc
by Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
10) RE: Tool sucks? (was Re: Phish)
by "spoonman" <el00144@mail.ntua.gr>
11) Reviewers needed
by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rnar_Bevolden <bjornar.bevolden@broadpark.no>
12) DT doing Maiden reviews please!!!!!!!
by "Alexis Ramos" <Aramos@vivienda.gobierno.pr>
13) Re: Tool sucks? (was Re: Phish)
by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
14) London Astoria Review - SPOILERS
by Elisa E Calimano <elisa_c@MIT.EDU>
15) porcupine tree
by "Daniel Mikkola" <jcdrummer67@hotmail.com>
16) We got "your Majesty" the song !! PARIS 23Oct
by "Stephen Gervois" <stephen.gervois@free.fr>
17) Re: Tool sucks? (was Re: Phish)
by "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@zero.corp.publichost.com>
18) Bush and stuff
by "Stephen Gervois" <stephen.gervois@free.fr>
19) RE: porcupine tree
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
20) RE: Tool sucks? (was Re: Phish)
by Brian D Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu>
21) Re: porcupine tree
by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
22) Re: Tool sucks? (was Re: Phish)
by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
23) Re: London Astoria Review - SPOILERS
by "Antony Gelberg" <ag@antgel.co.uk>
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 19:36:59 -0400
From: "Chris Calabrese" <ytseryche2112@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Phish
Message-ID: <F100gucZTBnOw8IqLZx00008ca3@hotmail.com>
>Newsflash: Mike Portnoy is a huge Phish fan, or Phan. Asked what one >
>other band he'd like to drum for, what did he say? Ding! Ding! >Phish.
OH NO! Let me jump on the Mike Portnoy band wagon and support everything he
supports like some mindless fool. Mike Portnoy likes Tool and they SUCK.
So I'm gonna start listening to Tool and Phish just cuz Mike Portnoy listens
to them? Give me a break.
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 17:37:41 -0700
From: "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@zero.corp.publichost.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Too Much SUCKING
Message-ID: <20021023173741.A1065@zero.corp.publichost.com>
A lot of you have been saying this band sucks, this other band sucks,
without really quantifying why x band sucks, well... if you are
going to takeup the average teeny bopper or teen wanna-be headbanger mentality
and just say band X sucks... more power to you, but you will be
grouped with those mental midgets.
Are you all just a bunch of middle school kids arguing about what
band sucks because it doesn't fit your image?
I realize that most people have opinions, but if you don't backup
your opinions, well, you suck and maybe the Beltway Sniper is shooting
the wrong people.
For example, Chris, why does Tool suck? Did they kill your mother or
you just can't recognize real talent?
-The Doc
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 17:41:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Ilia <painlessscream@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Tool sucks? (was Re: Phish) Message-ID: <20021024004116.9839.qmail@web11306.mail.yahoo.com>
> Mike Portnoy likes Tool and they SUCK.
Since when does Tool sucks? What sucks about them?
- Ilia.
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 21:05:53 -0400 From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Tool sucks? (was Re: Phish) Message-ID: <003001c27af9$805c4050$9b00a8c0@SHETZ>
I'm gonna have to agree with Ilia here. Tool is pretty much as close as prog metal gets to being considered mainstream... I don't think they suck at all... I do however think that their first few albums were lacking what the last few ones have...
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ilia" <painlessscream@yahoo.com> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 8:49 PM Subject: Tool sucks? (was Re: Phish)
> > Mike Portnoy likes Tool and they SUCK. > > Since when does Tool sucks? What sucks about them? > > - Ilia. > > > > === > Always use the word impossible with the greatest caution. > --- Wernher Von Braun > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ >
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Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 02:06:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Phish Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.44.0210240202001.3567-100000@sdf.lonestar.org>
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Chris Calabrese wrote:
> OH NO! Let me jump on the Mike Portnoy band wagon and support everything he > supports like some mindless fool. Mike Portnoy likes Tool and they SUCK.
oh boy, ya' done opened up a can `o worms with that one, laddy. let the flames roll in.........
-- "The least important things in life get the most appreciation. The most important things in life don't seem to get enough."
-me
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 22:12:35 -0500 From: "Carlos A. Alfaro Hernandez" <calfaro@yunque.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Tool sucks? (was Re: Phish) Message-ID: <002c01c27b0b$3514fda0$798a20c4@carlosbook>
Lateralus is a progressive masterpiece.
Carlos
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Shetzer" <echo26@videotron.ca> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 8:14 PM Subject: Re: Tool sucks? (was Re: Phish)
> I'm gonna have to agree with Ilia here. Tool is pretty much as close as prog > metal gets to being considered mainstream... > I don't think they suck at all... I do however think that their first few > albums were lacking what the last few ones have... > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 20:35:01 -0700 From: "Jenny K" <echolucretia@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Phish, Tool, etcetc Message-ID: <F48EdKk3oBXlllI5Sze000107ba@hotmail.com>
>OH NO! Let me jump on the Mike Portnoy band wagon and support everything >he >supports like some mindless fool. Mike Portnoy likes Tool and they SUCK. >So I'm gonna start listening to Tool and Phish just cuz Mike Portnoy >listens >to them? Give me a break.
Hi all, I'm bored. I'm going to litter your inboxes, sorry.
I love tool. But then, some might say I'm a mental midget.
Speaking of the Portnoy bandwagon, did anyone else think that his directing (I'm thinking the 6 degrees live video) was oh I don't know sub-par? I adore what he does at a musician, don't get me wrong. But it seems like the gods gave us limited talents, if they gave us any at all, so it's improperly hubristic to overstep one's bounds. You know?
Maybe you all already discussed this way back, as in when the video first came out. In which case, I'm very sorry, I hardly ever pay attention.
The White Stripes is in my cd player now. How embarrassing, huh? But ever since I stopped being a teenager, I gave up on the idea of being cool. I think it's tasteful when we old folks can recognize when we should step aside for the newer, hipper wave of fools. I mean, we can still listen to our Rolling Stones or whatever, right, but we would be kidding ourselves to think that WE are the iconic generation.
And if you got this far: thanks! One of these days, your considerate attention to other people's useless didacticism (word?) will pay off. I wish it could have this time, but what can I say.
Joy and good health, JK
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 23:37:43 -0400 (EDT) From: schew@interzone.com (Steve Chew) To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Economics Message-ID: <m184YoZ-003HCqC@mail.interzone.com>
Ilia wrote: > >Personally, I'm not pointing fingers at a political extreme - I >think all of them are way off. Currently, policy needs to be >dictated by economic conditions, not politics. If we don't see >it by the end of 2002, then shortly after in 2003 for sure - >we're in for it. Shit's gonna go down. >
An interesting prediction... So what, exactly, do you mean by "shit's gonna go down?" And why the end of 2002 or begining of 2003? Be specific. When 2003 rolls around I want to be able to point to your prediction and say you were right or you were wrong. People make statements like yours all the time -- back it up with details that can be verified please. Thanks.
Steve
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Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 04:03:06 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Phish, Tool, etcetc Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.44.0210240400240.28102-100000@sdf.lonestar.org>
now, i really feel that i pay attention and am up-to-snuff on what OFB is doing, but what are you talking about??? do you mean "LSFNY"?? granted, i hope a 6DOIT live video DOES come to pass. however, i didn't think there WAS one?? what the hell did i miss??
-eric
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Jenny K wrote:
> Speaking of the Portnoy bandwagon, did anyone else think that his directing > (I'm thinking the 6 degrees live video) was oh I don't know sub-par? I > adore what he does at a musician, don't get me wrong. But it seems like the > gods gave us limited talents, if they gave us any at all, so it's improperly > hubristic to overstep one's bounds. You know? > > Maybe you all already discussed this way back, as in when the video first > came out. In which case, I'm very sorry, I hardly ever pay attention.
-- "The least important things in life get the most appreciation. The most important things in life don't seem to get enough."
-me
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Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:17:08 +0300 From: "spoonman" <el00144@mail.ntua.gr> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: Tool sucks? (was Re: Phish) Message-ID: <MBBBKHLJFJPJBAMJHLCEIEDMCBAA.el00144@mail.ntua.gr>
>I'm gonna have to agree with Ilia here. Tool is pretty much as close as prog >metal gets to being considered mainstream... >I don't think they suck at all... I do however think that their first few >albums were lacking what the last few ones have...
Why metal ? Sounds more like prog rock to me . And it's still a mystery how they've actually managed to have such a wide appeal . Maybe it's cos they handle press really well . That and songs about sodomy ;) Btw , they only got 3 studio albums , which ones do you mean ? All equally great,imho. They put out a good show i hear , anyone seen them live ?
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Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:06:04 -0400 From: "Alexis Ramos" <Aramos@vivienda.gobierno.pr> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: DT doing Maiden reviews please!!!!!!! Message-ID: <757DAAB5CD7E934CBF86345BF0CD5DF755AAD6@mailserver.vivienda.local>
Is there anybody here who saw or heard DT playing Iron Maiden's Number of the Beast in its entirety? Could somebody please comment on how it was? How did James sound? How did the rest of the band sound? Also, how many times have they played it? Just once or have there been any other times? Also, did anybody record it? Is there a site where it could be downloaded? Even though Master of Puppets is an awesome album and DT sounded great playing it, I am far more excited about this new album being covered than with MOP. Definitely a great selection, although Seventh Son of a Seventh Son would have been an even better choice, IMO. Still, NOTB is amazing. Oh my god, I can't wait to hear DT playing Hallowed be thy name!!!!! And Run to the Hills!!!!!!!!!!!!! And Invaders and Prisoner and Children of the Damned and 22 Acacia Ave. and Number of the Beast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gangland is not one of my favorite Iron songs, but it's not bad. Alright, I think I! 'm hyperventilating here....... Gotta calm down..... Any info would be very appreciated.
Alexis
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Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:16:37 -0400 From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Tool sucks? (was Re: Phish) Message-ID: <001301c27b70$58fa56b0$9b00a8c0@SHETZ>
I found that Opiate and Undertow were lacking the sort of complexity that Aenima and Lateralus had delivered... The special release Salival was also pretty cool. The little bit on the Los Angeles Municipal Court is hilarious, as well as the pop song Maynard's Dick.
----- Original Message ----- From: "spoonman" <el00144@mail.ntua.gr> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:22 AM Subject: RE: Tool sucks? (was Re: Phish)
> > > > >I'm gonna have to agree with Ilia here. Tool is pretty much as close as > prog > >metal gets to being considered mainstream... > >I don't think they suck at all... I do however think that their first few > >albums were lacking what the last few ones have... > > > Why metal ? Sounds more like prog rock to me . And it's still a mystery how > they've > actually managed to have such a wide appeal . Maybe it's cos they handle > press really > well . That and songs about sodomy ;) > Btw , they only got 3 studio albums , which ones do you mean ? All equally > great,imho. > They put out a good show i hear , anyone seen them live ? > > > > > > > > > > >
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Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:00:14 -0400 From: Elisa E Calimano <elisa_c@MIT.EDU> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: London Astoria Review - SPOILERS Message-ID: <200210241500.LAA08967@cathedral-seven.mit.edu>
Hi! Just a brief set of impressions and a question or two.
SPOILERS
SPOILERS
SPOILERS
SPOILERS
Awesome show, awesome live version of a Killing Hand! I enjoyed the live versions of all of the songs they played... greta show.
I have one question for those who went. There was one instrumental song that I did not recognize (and I thought I knew all of them!). It was played after Burning my Soul (if I remember correctly). Not the LTE song.... what is it? Where can I find it?
One last point, what album did they sample on the Monday concert?
Just curious, Elisa
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Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 08:26:08 -0700 From: "Daniel Mikkola" <jcdrummer67@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: porcupine tree Message-ID: <F261e4wk2UfxhUIBSIe0000048f@hotmail.com>
<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>has anyone heard of porcupine tree, what do you think of them?</DIV> <DIV>thanks daniel</DIV></div><br clear=all><hr>Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. <a href="http://g.msn.com/8HMKEN/2022">Click Here</a> </html>
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Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 17:44:17 +0200 From: "Stephen Gervois" <stephen.gervois@free.fr> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: We got "your Majesty" the song !! PARIS 23Oct Message-ID: <000901c27b74$585a2240$82defea9@cycodomain>
Hi all,
I'm back from Paris and as usual WOW.
I won't say too much about the excellant show except this : Dream played for the first time in 16 years "Your Majesty" the song. Imagine they had acne when they wrote that one in Berkly ;) It was dedicated to the fan club Your Majesty.
It was great !
The most amazing thing is if you go to the French Your Majesty fan club site you can download it.
Happy listening.
A carbon based life form,
PS : for those of you who remember my rant on the cancelling of Montpellier well now I've seen the show all is forgiven ;)
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Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 08:45:41 -0700 From: "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@zero.corp.publichost.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Tool sucks? (was Re: Phish) Message-ID: <20021024084541.A20037@zero.corp.publichost.com>
spoonman <el00144@mail.ntua.gr> farted: > > > > >I'm gonna have to agree with Ilia here. Tool is pretty much as close as > prog > >metal gets to being considered mainstream... > >I don't think they suck at all... I do however think that their first few > >albums were lacking what the last few ones have... > > > Why metal ? Sounds more like prog rock to me . And it's still a mystery how > they've > actually managed to have such a wide appeal . Maybe it's cos they handle > press really > well . That and songs about sodomy ;)
No, it's because Maynard is the devil's son.
-The Doc
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Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 18:01:45 +0200 From: "Stephen Gervois" <stephen.gervois@free.fr> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Bush and stuff Message-ID: <000f01c27b76$a75d9280$82defea9@cycodomain>
This is a reaction to what Cyaron said although I don't want to get into a political debate because we all have our opinions.
Here's what the general opinion is from Europe and Asia: We don't know what he's done in internal affaires in America, but from the exterior Bush is thrashing the american image and even worse the relations with long term allies. Not anti-american at all => anti-bush.
Ah what the hell, here's my opinion for what it's worth: I personaly don't like Bush at all, and I don't think he will ever be good at politics. It's all too obvious and DANGEROUS wanting to go to Irak to get the Dow-Jones up again!
OK I've said it, Flame me people, but before answering remember 2 things: -I don't want to get into a political debate -We are ALL influenced by propoganda
Bye, ACBLF
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Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:06:26 -0500 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: porcupine tree Message-ID: <3CEB2BD450223743A4895C0D0C5DFC3A019CE670@haxlcsechp0.healthaxis.dom>
Wow, might wanna turn off that HTML stuff there coach...
JM
-----Original Message----- From: Daniel Mikkola [mailto:jcdrummer67@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 10:31 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: porcupine tree
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Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 12:19:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Brian D Hayden <hayd0029@tc.umn.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: Tool sucks? (was Re: Phish) Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.20.0210241217250.29474-100000@garnet.tc.umn.edu>
> They put out a good show i hear , anyone seen them live ?
Yeah. I actually like most of the recorded material (although some of the early stuff starts to wear on me after a bit, with the notable exception of "Prison Sex," which I could listen to endlessly for the rest of time). However, when I saw them live, I was bored stiff. Not sure if the mix was bad, or if it's just the way they play, but it was a muddy, everything-bleeding-together, no-differentiation-between-songs mess. Disappointing.
-Brian
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Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 15:40:16 -0400 From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: porcupine tree Message-ID: <002701c27b95$2daf6c50$9b00a8c0@SHETZ>
Yeah I agree... As response to the actual question at hand... I have several PT albums, and they are all great. Their earlier stuff involves Steven Wilson (the frontman) with a few guest musicians, those who eventually joined permanently. The music is slightly electronic, somewhat reminiscent of Pink Floyd crossed with Ozric Tentacles. Later on they ditched the electronicness and went slightly more Prog Rock-y (listen to Stupid Dream (1999) for proof I'd say...), still retaining their Floydian roots but having reduced the Ozricness factor... I compare Wilson's self harmonizing vocals sometimes to Simon & Garfunkel sometimes... Their most recent effort, In Absentia, I find is a great follow-up to Lightbulb Sun, which I found was slightly disappointing compared to Stupid Dream. All in all, a great band... give them a listen if you're a Floydian or Ozric fan. m.S
----- Original Message ----- From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:26 PM Subject: RE: porcupine tree
> Wow, might wanna turn off that HTML stuff there coach... > > JM > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Mikkola [mailto:jcdrummer67@hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 10:31 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: porcupine tree > > > <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>has anyone heard of porcupine > tree, what do you think of them?</DIV> > <DIV>thanks daniel</DIV></div><br clear=all><hr>Surf the Web without missing > calls! Get MSN Broadband. <a href="http://g.msn.com/8HMKEN/2022">Click > Here</a> </html> >
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Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 15:44:52 -0400 From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Tool sucks? (was Re: Phish) Message-ID: <003501c27b95$d21bdc60$9b00a8c0@SHETZ>
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@zero.corp.publichost.com> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:01 PM Subject: Re: Tool sucks? (was Re: Phish)
> spoonman <el00144@mail.ntua.gr> farted: > > > > > > > > >I'm gonna have to agree with Ilia here. Tool is pretty much as close as > > prog > > >metal gets to being considered mainstream... > > >I don't think they suck at all... I do however think that their first few > > >albums were lacking what the last few ones have... > > > > > > Why metal ? Sounds more like prog rock to me . And it's still a mystery how > > they've > > actually managed to have such a wide appeal . Maybe it's cos they handle > > press really > > well . That and songs about sodomy ;) > > No, it's because Maynard is the devil's son. > > -The Doc
On a similar note... how many of you have actually read Tool's website? Besides being informative, it proves that Tool's members are really interplanetary explorers with chemical imbalances in their brains... =) For example... this is taken from drummer Danny Carey's website: "As Danny progressed through high school and then college at the University of Missouri in Kansas City he began supplementing his studies in percussion with speculation into the principles of geometry, science, and metaphysics. A commitment to life as an artist brought Danny to LA where he was able to perform as a studio drummer with projects like Carole King and play around town with Pygmy Love Circus. He would later find an outlet for addressing a fuller scope of his potentials in Tool and another project operating under the title of Zaum. Despite not becoming a Mason or aligning himself with any other school of religion, Danny has maintained his heritages interest in occult studies. Endeavors into this realm have manifested periodically, such as the time he achieved insight into a hidden aspect of the unicursal hexagram utilizing an astral journey initiated through meditation and DMT. Danny then set up his drums into proportions utilizing the circle and square of the New Jerusalem and uttered a short prayer relating to the principles of the ace of swords from the book of Thoth. He then performed a ritual utilizing his new found knowledge of the unicursal hexagram to generate a pattern of movement in space relating to Fuller's vector equilibrium model. The resulting rhythm and gateway summoned a daemon he has contained within "the Lodge" that has been delivering short parables similar to passages within the Book of Lies. Danny recommends as a device of protection and containment a thorough study and utilization of the underlying geometry of the Temple of Solomon for anyone purchasing their next record."
Hmmm... too much crack if you ask me... m.S
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Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 22:43:31 +0100 From: "Antony Gelberg" <ag@antgel.co.uk> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: London Astoria Review - SPOILERS Message-ID: <002101c27ba6$660c87c0$ae69ff3e@PULSEDESKTOP>
----- Original Message ----- From: "Elisa E Calimano" <elisa_c@MIT.EDU> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> > Awesome show, awesome live version of a Killing Hand! I enjoyed the live versions > of all of the songs they played... greta show.
Yes, GREAT show indeed.
> I have one question for those who went. There was one instrumental song that I did > not recognize (and I thought I knew all of them!). It was played after Burning my Soul > (if I remember correctly). Not the LTE song.... what is it? Where can I find it?
I don't know, but I have bootlegs of both nights on Minidisc. I will hopefully get around to making cd's sometime next week.
> One last point, what album did they sample on the Monday concert?
Iron Maiden - Number Of The Beast.
Tony
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