YTSEJAM Digest 6327
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Dark Tranquillity / In Flames show tonight at Birch Hell
by LaxBoy329@aol.com
2) re: Vapor Trails sounds like dogsh*t (?)
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
3) Re:Vapor Trails sounds like dogsh*t
by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
4) re:Vapor Trails sounds like dogsh*t (?)
by "BRUCE FORST" <bforst@peoplepc.com>
5) Suggestions.....
by "ngomez" <ngomez@adinet.com.uy>
6) I must not post this, but i'm quite anxious to know!!
by "ngomez" <ngomez@adinet.com.uy>
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 11:52:07 EDT
From: LaxBoy329@aol.com
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Dark Tranquillity / In Flames show tonight at Birch Hell
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im actually going to that show hehe... needed something different on a friday
night hehe.... and i cant wait to hear killswitch engage play
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:04:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: re: Vapor Trails sounds like dogsh*t (?)
Message-ID: <20020927170457.27225.qmail@web13101.mail.yahoo.com>
Rick Audet <spine@optical.mindstorm.com> wrote:
> Some of you might find this to be an interesting
read:
>http://prorec.com/prorec/articles.nsf/articles/8A133F52D0FD71AB86256C2E005DAF1C
Yeah, it was good reading. Of course it really doesn't
have a lot to do with Rush. It has more to do with one
of my favorite rants: digital limiting. The wonders of
the digital revolution. His audio spectrum graphs are
good examples. Nothing like a good, unending,
ear-numbing wall of sound. Wouldn't want anything like
a little "open space" for contrast.
The best short summary from the article:
"the latest trend is LOUDER IS BETTER. This approach
basically ignores any distortion caused by limiting
and seeks to make the audio as loud as possible. The
idea is to peg the meters and keep them pegged. As a
result the signal is just ruined."
I agree.
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 15:49:45 -0500
From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re:Vapor Trails sounds like dogsh*t
Message-ID: <3D94C469.3BE0D35F@isd.net>
Rick Audet wrote:
>Some of you might find this to be an interesting read:
http://prorec.com/prorec/articles.nsf/articles/8A133F52D0FD71AB86256C2E005DAF1C
That's one of the best posts I've seen here in the last year!
Try being an audiophile and dealing with many of today's recordings.
The guy that wrote the article knows what he's talking about... And if
you really want to add to the agony, listen with some quality gear
that's detailed enough to really make the flaws stand out.
Keven Shirley ruined SDOIT, IMHO. There are no quiet passages
whatsoever, and the dynamic range is mediocre at best. Terry Brown
did a bang up job of destroying several tracks on Fates Warning's
"Disconnected" as well. What a shame.. That's something that can
never be corrected without starting over from the master tapes.
(Assuming they didn't fuck them up with poor recording techniques)
That was a good read, Rick!
Thanks!
--
Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist
^
Switchcraft Microsystems
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"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of
that comes from bad judgment" --Will Rogers
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 15:28:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: "BRUCE FORST" <bforst@peoplepc.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: re:Vapor Trails sounds like dogsh*t (?)
Message-ID: <20020927152804.27011.h015.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net>
Thanks Rick for posting that link to the digest. I read it
and thought it pretty close to my own personal feelings (but
with more hard data). I recently decided to take my copy of
Vapor trails on a trip and when I decided it was time to dig
into the new rush and "rock out" I was underwhelmed by the
experience and went ont to something else. I typically rank
my cd listening experince as 30% production value, 60%
musical composition and 10% Lyrical content. Hell, I'll
almost listen to bad music thats been recorded well... but
even great music thats been recorded or produced poorly is a
chore to listen to.
I suggest reading that article if nothing else than for your
own self edification. With modern digital recording and even
some not so hitech equipment readily avalable making a good
recording shouldn't be that hard. Its that damn human factor
again....
Bruce
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 11:24:06 -0300
From: "ngomez" <ngomez@adinet.com.uy>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Suggestions.....
Message-ID: <003001c266fd$14b28cc0$254b28c8@home>
Hi jammers.... I live in a third-world country and I can't afford to buy the
discs that I need, So I'm going to order some discs to my brother that is
travelling to mexico next week.... The fact is: What should I buy?... I
don't have so much money (I could buy 2 or 3 discs because the financial
crisis in Latin America)....My likes are in order:
-Dream Theater & LTE
- Metallica
-Rhapsody
-Moonspell
-Angra
-Dave Weckl
-Pantera
-And some of black/death melodic metal
This are the most important bands/genres that I like, So with this info I'd
like to hear your suggestions. Also, I'm interested in trying something of
spock's beard and Symphony X...
TIA
Bye!!!
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 11:27:21 -0300
From: "ngomez" <ngomez@adinet.com.uy>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: I must not post this, but i'm quite anxious to know!!
Message-ID: <003101c266fd$159d8900$254b28c8@home>
Hi folks... I know that I must not post this but.... I'm sort of new in
Dream Theater and I want to know which was the trouble with the guys of
NIN...!!! If anybody knows and can tell in a brief description what it was
about, because I don't like at all NIN!!!!!!
Thanks!!
Bye!!!
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