YTSEJAM Digest 6615
Today's Topics:
1) RE: frequent CDs
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
2) Various replies
by "Alexis Ramos" <Aramos@vivienda.gobierno.pr>
3) Re: Various replies
by Lisa Palma <comadivine@covad.net>
4) Re: Various replies
by "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@zero.corp.publichost.com>
5) Re: Enchant - Tug of War
by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
6) Re: Enchant - Tug of War
by "Rob P" <ytsejam2002@hotmail.com>
7) RE: Enchant - Tug of War
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
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Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 08:22:04 -0500
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: frequent CDs
Message-ID: <4642CF49B0BEB44386CA20BD34DC2438015EBF56@hhpech01.healthaxis.dom>
Yep, and don't forget the Dream Theater DVD's in-between albums to keep us
satisfied :)
-----Original Message-----
From: Niall Connaughton [mailto:ytsejam@bigpond.net.au]
Well, I have to say that DT is putting them out fairly quickly at the
moment... we had FII in 97, SFaM in 99, 6DOIT in early 2002, and now the new
one around the end of 2003. They're doing one basically every 2 years.
That seems fairly quick to me, or maybe I'm just too used to Metallica...
Niall
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]
>
>
> I remember some bands in the 80s and early 90s that would put out a CD and
> then do a medium-weight tour that would last about 8-9 months, then they'd
> have a little time off and hit the studio and release another one the next
> year and hit the road again... Loved having more CDs from bands. Doing
> that over and over would lead to burnout, which was unfortunate.. But
> having more great music was a blast.
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Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 11:52:17 -0400
From: "Alexis Ramos" <Aramos@vivienda.gobierno.pr>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Various replies
Message-ID: <757DAAB5CD7E934CBF86345BF0CD5DF755AB32@mailserver.vivienda.local>
> That just said, I must say that while this show does have
> some cool stuff
> like Bruce Dickenson guest singing at the end, this CD is
> *painful* to liste
> n to
> end-to-end.=A0 James' voice started cracking on the first
> song and it was ve
> ry
> clear throughout the whole of the show that his voice was shot.=A0
My brother downloaded this official bootleg for me (Sorry, but it was an offer I couldn't refuse), and I'm glad that I got to hear it before making the decision to buy it or not. I've just heard a few songs, which made me come to the conclusion that I'm definitely not buying this one. James was painful to listen to, and the guest performances weren't that incredible (especially Alder's; Bruce's was better). I can live without it.
>
> Uh, you DO know the topic of the new album don't you? Do you
> really think
> he could have done something like that with Spock's Beard??
Well, my guess is that maybe not. But I have no idea if it was even discussed with the rest of the guys from SB to see if they would be willing to do it. The thing about my question is that, when the news came out about Neal leaving SB, it sounded mostly as if he was saying that God didn't want him pursuing a music career in a band. It didn't come off (at least to me) as saying that he wouldn't be able to talk about what God was telling him to talk about as a member of SB.
> The music on this is quite good, but holy jeez the lyrics and
> vocals are
> bad. John Arc sounds like a cross between Geoff Tate and Adam
> Sandler and
> the lyrics are a hodgepodge of every bad prog-metal lyrical
> cliche you can
> think of: "chains of misery", "live to die, die to live," "celestial
> spheres", "the cross you bear", etc. lol! who comes up with
> this stuff?
John Arch is certainly an acquired taste. I personally love the way he sings and what he does, but I can understand if somebody else doesn't like his singing. I haven't read the lyrics, but what I've listened to has been alright by my standards.
Alexis
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Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 10:08:49 -0700
From: Lisa Palma <comadivine@covad.net>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Various replies
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030806100341.00b74e08@mail.covad.net>
At 09:25 AM 8/6/2003 -0700, Alexis wrote:
> > Uh, you DO know the topic of the new album don't you? Do you
> > really think
> > he could have done something like that with Spock's Beard??
>
>Well, my guess is that maybe not. But I have no idea if it was even
>discussed with the rest of the guys from SB to see if they would be
>willing to do it. The thing about my question is that, when the news came
>out about Neal leaving SB, it sounded mostly as if he was saying that God
>didn't want him pursuing a music career in a band. It didn't come off (at
>least to me) as saying that he wouldn't be able to talk about what God was
>telling him to talk about as a member of SB.
No, Neal never said he was quitting music altogether, just that he was
"told" to leave Spock's Beard.
There's an interview with Neal on The Dividing Line that answers a lot of
questions: http://www.thedividingline.com
It's on the 'Archives' page, under the 'Special Event Archives' heading.
~L
::::Lisa Marie Palma::::
:::::lisa@palma.net:::::
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Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 10:09:07 -0700
From: "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@zero.corp.publichost.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Various replies
Message-ID: <20030806100906.A17152@zero.corp.publichost.com>
0. Lisa Palma <comadivine@covad.net> farted:
>
> No, Neal never said he was quitting music altogether, just that he was
> "told" to leave Spock's Beard.
> There's an interview with Neal on The Dividing Line that answers a lot of
> questions: http://www.thedividingline.com
> It's on the 'Archives' page, under the 'Special Event Archives' heading.
But but but... music is the DEVILS WORK!!!
Those evil progmetallist!!
-The Doc
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Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 17:57:10 -0400 From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Enchant - Tug of War Message-ID: <004e01c35c65$afae8bd0$9b00a8c0@mike>
Okay, so it's settled that they have another album. How is it? I personally like Enchant, but their best IMHO is still Blueprint, the rest of them I think just attempt to be as good. Not to mention they got rid of Beningus and Craddick, who I found gave the band oomph in their sound. Craddick's got some crazy chops :)
----- Original Message ----- From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:34 AM Subject: RE: Enchant - Tug of War
> I remember some bands in the 80s and early 90s that would put out a CD and > then do a medium-weight tour that would last about 8-9 months, then they'd > have a little time off and hit the studio and release another one the next > year and hit the road again... Loved having more CDs from bands. Doing > that over and over would lead to burnout, which was unfortunate.. But > having more great music was a blast. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Shetzer [mailto:echo26@videotron.ca] > > > I gotta get back into the loop, I didn't know they released another album. > Isn't that their like third in three years? :) >
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Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 20:51:38 -0400 From: "Rob P" <ytsejam2002@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Enchant - Tug of War Message-ID: <Law15-F105Ywlib4g3S0003373a@hotmail.com>
The new CD is really good. Similar to Blink Of An Eye but has the sound of Wounded, very direct not the huge wall of sound. My favorite is still Juggling 9 and yes Paul Craddick is greatly missed both for his drumming AND his songwriting! Sean Flanagan is a solid drummer but he is no Craddick.
Rob
>From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca> >Reply-To: ytsejam@torchsong.com >To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> >Subject: Re: Enchant - Tug of War >Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 15:08:15 -0700 (PDT) > >Okay, so it's settled that they have another album. How is it? I personally >like Enchant, but their best IMHO is still Blueprint, the rest of them I >think just attempt to be as good. Not to mention they got rid of Beningus >and Craddick, who I found gave the band oomph in their sound. Craddick's >got >some crazy chops :) > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> >To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> >Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:34 AM >Subject: RE: Enchant - Tug of War > > > > I remember some bands in the 80s and early 90s that would put out a CD >and > > then do a medium-weight tour that would last about 8-9 months, then >they'd > > have a little time off and hit the studio and release another one the >next > > year and hit the road again... Loved having more CDs from bands. >Doing > > that over and over would lead to burnout, which was unfortunate.. But > > having more great music was a blast. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mike Shetzer [mailto:echo26@videotron.ca] > > > > > > I gotta get back into the loop, I didn't know they released another >album. > > Isn't that their like third in three years? :) > > > >
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Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 07:32:22 -0500 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: Enchant - Tug of War Message-ID: <4642CF49B0BEB44386CA20BD34DC2438015EC060@hhpech01.healthaxis.dom>
You won't be disappointed. It fits in nicely with the rest of their CDs.
-----Original Message----- From: Mike Shetzer [mailto:echo26@videotron.ca]
Okay, so it's settled that they have another album. How is it? I personally like Enchant, but their best IMHO is still Blueprint, the rest of them I think just attempt to be as good. Not to mention they got rid of Beningus and Craddick, who I found gave the band oomph in their sound. Craddick's got some crazy chops :)
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