YTSEJAM digest 6628

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Date: Wed Aug 20 2003 - 12:53:43 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Ticketbastard and the Hammy Apollo
     by douglas_gray@hotmail.com
      2) Re: Dream Theater songwriting contest! OFFICIAL!
     by Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com>
      3) Re: Ticketbastard and the Hammy Apollo
     by "Antony Gelberg" <antony@antgel.co.uk>
      4) Re: Ticketbastard and the Hammy Apollo
     by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
      5) Re: Ticketbastard and the Hammy Apollo
     by "Antony Gelberg" <antony@antgel.co.uk>
      6) Re: Ticketbastard and the Hammy Apollo
     by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
      7) RE: Official Boot
     by "Desjardijn, Roene" <RoeneDesjardijn@ect.nl>
      8) RE: help wanted, lost DT mojo
     by "Alexis Ramos" <Aramos@vivienda.gobierno.pr>
      9) RE: Ticketbastard and the Hammy Apollo
     by Niall Connaughton <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>

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    Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 23:45:31 +0100
    From: douglas_gray@hotmail.com
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Ticketbastard and the Hammy Apollo
    Message-ID: <BAY1-DAV32phwFutJLt0000522d@hotmail.com>

    OK, so everyone goint to the Hammy Apollo in Jan, I've just got tickets from
    TicketBastard, and it seems as though there is limited standing.

    Me being lucky living in London, thought I'd pop down to the venue and get
    them over the counter, but they've stopped selling direct, leaving me the
    only option to go through Ticket*******.

    The website gives the option of standing only tickets - strange as it is an
    all seated venue. Afer a little investigation, it seems that for some gigs
    they take out a few rows at the front in the stalls to allow standing (why
    they did not do this in Jan '01 I don't know).

    So, question for Graham - you said you managed to get front row seats - are
    you sure they are what you think they are? Yes, you might have front row,
    but maybe the front row in reality is ten rows behind all the people
    standing! Or maybe you've opted for front row of the circle in your old
    age?!!!!!!!

    Or maybe I've got standing tickets behind ten rows of seated people!!!!!

    What do you all reckon who have experienced ticket******** and have ordered
    your tickets?

    Cheers

    Doug

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    Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 16:46:05 -0700
    From: Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: Dream Theater songwriting contest! OFFICIAL!
    Message-ID: <BB67FB92.6B8C%schansen@cts.com>

    In a mind-blowing e-mail sent on the extremely historic date of 8/19/03 9:39
    AM, Rob P thusly spaketh:

    > Well I gotta be honest...I thought it was kinda stupid. Sure if I had some
    > musical talent I might find it interesting but not all of us are hooked up
    > that way. I did toy with the idea of just farting on a CDR and mailing it
    > since that's pretty much how my guitar playing is. I say just give us a
    > clip of the song and skip the contest.

    Ya know what Rob? I have probably less skill in terms of playing any musical
    instrument, let alone to write music, than you do. And yet I'm *still*
    excited abooot the contest. Just because I can't dig deep into the time sigs
    of each section or whatever doesn't mean that it isn't exciting.

    Actually, I was real happy that the band has provided images of their charts
    - once a song is released, we'll all be able to follow along with what is
    played and understand what they meant. Before that, even us non-musicall
    talented fans can appreciate to a limited degree all the stuff that's going
    on in the track.

    And I for one will be curious to hear all the different interpretations that
    people/bands come up with just by looking at those charts.

    Last but not least, this idea is *very* unique - how many bands offer this
    kind of insight into the writing of their music, or come up with an idea
    along these lines? My guess is none - it hasn't been done before, or at
    least I've never heard of the idea. It's just another reason why DT is IMO
    so very cool.

    Let's not forget why the band aren't just gonna "give us a clip of the song"
    - they want everyone to hear the album in it's entirity when it's released -
    they don't want fans to start jumping to conclusions before they're able to
    hear the full track. They're building up excitement for the new release. As
    far as I'm concerned, releasing clips of the songs can be somewhat
    anti-climatic as you already know what you're gonna get when the CD is
    released. This way you don't.

    Scott

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    Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 00:44:16 +0100
    From: "Antony Gelberg" <antony@antgel.co.uk>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: Ticketbastard and the Hammy Apollo
    Message-ID: <008001c366ab$cd9f5d40$b5494452@PULSELAPTOP>

    douglas_gray@hotmail.com wrote:
    > OK, so everyone goint to the Hammy Apollo in Jan, I've just got
    > tickets from TicketBastard, and it seems as though there is limited
    > standing.

    Great post Doug, you've made my month. I wasn't looking forward to this
    gig, because of the all-seater fiasco last time, and I hadn't booked
    tickets. But now I can stand, not see properly, and have people spill beer
    on me - the perfect live experience!

    However I have just booked for:

    King's X 19/09
    Spock's Beard 22/10
    Porcupine Tree 30/11
    Dream Theater 17/01

    My credit card has melted, but I am very, _very_ happy. It's gonna be a
    winter of great gigs.

    Elbow have managed to sell out the Astoria, but I know someone who might be
    able to get tickets for that one. Also, The Darkness have sold out Brixton
    Academy. It says "call venue for tickets", but from previous experience I'm
    not confident.

    T

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    Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:45:46 -0400
    From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Ticketbastard and the Hammy Apollo
    Message-ID: <002801c366b4$646a4b60$9b00a8c0@shetzer>

    I just checked the beard's website, no mention of a tour date on October 22.
    Where is it?
    On that note, I wanna see the beard... why won't they come to Canada?! :)
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Antony Gelberg" <antony@antgel.co.uk>
    To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 7:50 PM
    Subject: Re: Ticketbastard and the Hammy Apollo

    > douglas_gray@hotmail.com wrote:
    > > OK, so everyone goint to the Hammy Apollo in Jan, I've just got
    > > tickets from TicketBastard, and it seems as though there is limited
    > > standing.
    >
    > Great post Doug, you've made my month. I wasn't looking forward to this
    > gig, because of the all-seater fiasco last time, and I hadn't booked
    > tickets. But now I can stand, not see properly, and have people spill
    beer
    > on me - the perfect live experience!
    >
    > However I have just booked for:
    >
    > King's X 19/09
    > Spock's Beard 22/10
    > Porcupine Tree 30/11
    > Dream Theater 17/01
    >
    > My credit card has melted, but I am very, _very_ happy. It's gonna be a
    > winter of great gigs.
    >
    > Elbow have managed to sell out the Astoria, but I know someone who might
    be
    > able to get tickets for that one. Also, The Darkness have sold out
    Brixton
    > Academy. It says "call venue for tickets", but from previous experience
    I'm
    > not confident.
    >
    > T
    >
    >

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    Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 02:21:27 +0100
    From: "Antony Gelberg" <antony@antgel.co.uk>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: Ticketbastard and the Hammy Apollo
    Message-ID: <005101c366b9$60d80aa0$b5494452@PULSELAPTOP>

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Mike Shetzer" <echo26@videotron.ca>
    To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 1:50 AM
    Subject: Re: Ticketbastard and the Hammy Apollo

    > I just checked the beard's website, no mention of a tour date on October
    22.
    > Where is it?
    > On that note, I wanna see the beard... why won't they come to Canada?! :)

    http://www.spocksbeard.com/concerts.html

    Probably for the same reason that Rush won't come to the UK.

    T

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    Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 22:07:04 -0400
    From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Ticketbastard and the Hammy Apollo
    Message-ID: <000901c366bf$c028c570$9b00a8c0@shetzer>

    Oh, whoops I was looking at NDV solo shows on the left column.
    HA! we get rush and you don't... suckers :P
    you also get the Ozrics though... damn!

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Antony Gelberg" <antony@antgel.co.uk>
    To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 9:24 PM
    Subject: Re: Ticketbastard and the Hammy Apollo

    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Mike Shetzer" <echo26@videotron.ca>
    > To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 1:50 AM
    > Subject: Re: Ticketbastard and the Hammy Apollo
    >
    >
    > > I just checked the beard's website, no mention of a tour date on October
    > 22.
    > > Where is it?
    > > On that note, I wanna see the beard... why won't they come to Canada?!
    :)
    >
    > http://www.spocksbeard.com/concerts.html
    >
    > Probably for the same reason that Rush won't come to the UK.
    >
    > T
    >
    >

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    Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 08:47:07 +0200
    From: "Desjardijn, Roene" <RoeneDesjardijn@ect.nl>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: RE: Official Boot
    Message-ID: <A4E94A13442E4B4F8852C3428FD5D219708758@MSV004.dt.ect.nl>

    My order number was over 2000 and I got them a week ago. I hope that makes you feel better

    Roene

    <Oh God!!! My order number is over 2500. Will I get them before Christmas???
    <
    <Alex

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    Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 08:55:14 -0400
    From: "Alexis Ramos" <Aramos@vivienda.gobierno.pr>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: RE: help wanted, lost DT mojo
    Message-ID: <757DAAB5CD7E934CBF86345BF0CD5DF754387C@mailserver.vivienda.local>

    > Actually, I am just wondering, whether to get rid of all the
    > live stuff, to
    > just keep the studio records, to make space in my CD rack, to get some
    > money.
    >
    > I just don't feel like I need anoter version of TTT, I've
    > heard so many
    > great ones already, and, gee, I don't know.

    Hello there. I can totally understand what you're going through. I feel the same way that you do about not feeling like I need another version of TTT. But I'm definitely not getting rid of my bootlegs, since I enjoy listening to them once in a while (although I don't think I have as many as you do and am not in desperate need of the money). But, right now, I'm definitely spending my money on other bands out there, and not on the DT official bootlegs, which don't give me anything new.

    > I guess they're
    > on the way to
    > not being my favorite band anymore. I've listened to some
    > great records last
    > year, much more than Dream Theater. Is it possible that I have to say
    > good-bye to my twenties by saying good-bye to DT?

    This is something that I consider to be normal. Each one of us progresses with time, and our tastes change. It's a process that most of us face, even if the changes in our preferences are minor. I don't think I'm even getting close to saying good-bye to DT, since I still love them, but right now I'm not that certain that they're still my favorite band. They're still among my favorite bands, but I'm not as obsessed about them as I was before. The good thing about DT is that they always manage to sound fresh with every new album, so that helps in not making me grow tired of the same thing every time around.

    > Funny thing is, ytsejam and the mirror are the only mailing
    > lists I'm on,
    > and I have lots of fun with Ytsejam hockey league (though
    > talk about DT is
    > scarce there).

    Ytsejam is the only mailing list I'm on, but I wander into message boards quite often...
     
    > Help me here people, renew my faith!!!
    >
    > I don't want to be cured!
    >
    > sab

    There's no use in fighting it. I'm sure you'll still like DT as the years go on, even if you've matured out of the obsession phase. As long as you don't do a 180 and start ripping on DT, you're fine with me :-)

    Alexis

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    Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 23:13:14 +1000
    From: Niall Connaughton <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: RE: Ticketbastard and the Hammy Apollo
    Message-ID: <OPEJJAPFDGDMCLAHLLIMOEHJDAAA.ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>

    Yeah?

    Well, I'm in Australia, and we get... our metal festivals cancelled :/

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of
    > Mike Shetzer
    > Sent: Wednesday, 20 August 2003 12:25 PM
    > To: Multiple recipients of list
    > Subject: Re: Ticketbastard and the Hammy Apollo
    >
    >
    > Oh, whoops I was looking at NDV solo shows on the left column.
    > HA! we get rush and you don't... suckers :P
    > you also get the Ozrics though... damn!

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