YTSEJAM digest 6727

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Wed Dec 03 2003 - 21:28:45 EST

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 6727

    Today's Topics:

      1) re: wankery (SPAM, potentially)
     by "Ilia" <painlessscream@yahoo.com>
      2) Re: wankery (SPAM, potentially)
     by "Dave Schott" <admdave@qis.net>
      3) absuuuuuuurd
     by Brian Hayden <bhayden@UMN.EDU>
      4) Re: wankery
     by Heike =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=F6deker <heike.boedeker@netcologne.de>
      5) Symphony X in Minnesota
     by "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
      6) RE: Symphony X in Minnesota
     by "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
      7) Re: Symphony X in Minnesota
     by Brian Hayden <bhayden@umn.edu>
      8) Re: Symphony X in Minnesota
     by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
      9) RE: Symphony X in Minnesota
     by "Todd O. Klindt" <todd@klindt.org>
     10) SPOILER: Re: Symphony X in Minnesota
     by Sarah Hallum <sarah@subtlerage.com>
     11) Opinions on Mike's "Liquid Drum Theater"
     by "Jennifer" <jennifer@jenniebear.com>
     12) Re: Opinions on Mike's "Liquid Drum Theater"
     by Andrew Coutermarsh <andrew@acvox.com>
     13) transatlantic dvd 5.1 audio?
     by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
     14) Re: Opinions on Mike's "Liquid Drum Theater"
     by Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
     15) Re: Opinions on Mike's "Liquid Drum Theater"
     by "Dave Schott" <admdave@qis.net>
     16) Re: Opinions on Mike's "Liquid Drum Theater"
     by Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org>
     17) A few things
     by "Alexis, Axel, Tony" <alexis1@prtc.net>
     18) Re: Opinions on Mike's "Liquid Drum Theater"
     by Kgahjah1@aol.com
     19) Re: Symphony X in Minnesota
     by Michael & Pamela Nazer <mnazer@pressenter.com>
     20) Re: SPOILER: Re: Symphony X in Minnesota
     by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
     21) Washington Post Review of ToT.......WOW
     by "Kez" <bkeyser@cox.net>

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    Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:45:55 -0500
    From: "Ilia" <painlessscream@yahoo.com>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: re: wankery (SPAM, potentially)
    Message-ID: <LJEJLFCHDEEHAGCHOFPHKECDCBAA.painlessscream@yahoo.com>

    Do tell, which music PhDs have you perused? Perhaps any that didn't bore
    you? Or did you deem their "shit" worthwhile from a mile away and decide to
    skip the "picking apart" part? From what I can tell, you don't even have
    the work ethic to read a simple paragraph, much less study "crit theory" on
    any level that would result in verifiable understanding that's applicable to
    anything worthwhile.

    So Brian, please, let's dispense with needless credibility building and talk
    about something worthwhile. How's life been?Have you changed your mind
    about buying TOT yet, or are you still quietly cringing in a corner
    somewhere?

    Ilia

    >Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:48:02 -0600 (CST)
    >From: Brian Hayden <bhayden@umn.edu>
    >To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    >Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** re: wankery
    >Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.50.0312012246150.18927-100000@garnet.tc.umn.edu>
    >
    >Give ma break, Ilia. I'm not going to pick apart your post, as it would
    >bore me, but having lived and studied the last 6 years with crit theory
    >and music PhDs, I can tell from a mile away that you're spouting shit. Get
    >over yourself.
    >
    >-brian

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    Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 23:05:40 -0500
    From: "Dave Schott" <admdave@qis.net>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: wankery (SPAM, potentially)
    Message-ID: <011701c3b952$b78f6230$0200a8c0@Two>

    Actually no, do get over yourself, I for one am sick of your shit, you have
    certainly made a spectacle of yourself, and definitely gotten the attention
    you seem to want. So I think I speak for a lot of people when say, GO AWAY.

    -Dave Schott (AdmiralDave)
    admdave@qis.net
    http://www.bangarangband.com

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Ilia" <painlessscream@yahoo.com>
    To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:21 PM
    Subject: re: wankery (SPAM, potentially)

    > Do tell, which music PhDs have you perused? Perhaps any that didn't bore
    > you? Or did you deem their "shit" worthwhile from a mile away and decide
    to
    > skip the "picking apart" part? From what I can tell, you don't even have
    > the work ethic to read a simple paragraph, much less study "crit theory"
    on
    > any level that would result in verifiable understanding that's applicable
    to
    > anything worthwhile.
    >
    > So Brian, please, let's dispense with needless credibility building and
    talk
    > about something worthwhile. How's life been?Have you changed your mind
    > about buying TOT yet, or are you still quietly cringing in a corner
    > somewhere?
    >
    > Ilia
    >
    >
    > >Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:48:02 -0600 (CST)
    > >From: Brian Hayden <bhayden@umn.edu>
    > >To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    > >Subject: Re: *****SPAM***** re: wankery
    > >Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.50.0312012246150.18927-100000@garnet.tc.umn.edu>
    > >
    > >Give ma break, Ilia. I'm not going to pick apart your post, as it would
    > >bore me, but having lived and studied the last 6 years with crit theory
    > >and music PhDs, I can tell from a mile away that you're spouting shit.
    Get
    > >over yourself.
    > >
    > >-brian
    >
    >

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    Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 22:28:44 -0600 (CST)
    From: Brian Hayden <bhayden@UMN.EDU>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: absuuuuuuurd
    Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.50.0312022222380.13591-100000@garnet.tc.umn.edu>

    > Do tell, which music PhDs have you perused? Perhaps any that didn't bore
    > you? Or did you deem their "shit" worthwhile from a mile away and decide to
    > skip the "picking apart" part? From what I can tell, you don't even have
    > the work ethic to read a simple paragraph, much less study "crit theory" on
    > any level that would result in verifiable understanding that's applicable to
    > anything worthwhile.

    Some of us intelligent adults have gained the ability to read, digest, and
    heed that light bulb that goes on and blinks: "This... guy... is...
    cluelesss..."

    > So Brian, please, let's dispense with needless credibility building and talk
    > about something worthwhile. How's life been?Have you changed your mind
    > about buying TOT yet, or are you still quietly cringing in a corner
    > somewhere?

    *cringe cringe*

    That sucking sound you feel is my eyeballs rolling around so fast they've
    created their own gravitational field.

    You're either trolling, or the biggest blowhard I've ever met (note,
    please, that the reason blowhards make so much noise is to mask the fact
    that they're flailing like a quadrapalegic drowning in the apple-bobbing
    tub). Either way, get a life.

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    Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 09:02:11 +0100
    From: Heike =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=F6deker <heike.boedeker@netcologne.de>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: wankery
    Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20031203085538.020fb170@pop3.netcologne.de>

    Ilia wrote:
    >As is fortunate for us, the well-tempered system outlines by Bach in his
    >Well-Tempered Clavier, is demonstrated as a physical, universal principle
    >in the universe, by such occurences as, say, the solar system.[...]
    >
    >[...] Any superfluous examples (and points on the merits of those examples
    >outlying) are what I can see legitimately called "wankery";

    Nice sample of wankery you gave above :-&

    Just for the record, the division of an octave in 12 equal parts is the
    most unsophisticated alternative available, which has been proposed since
    long, but always been rejected as long as more sophisticated people had the
    say on the matter. But degeneration is the nature of the kali yuga...

    Recommended classic reading:

    Daniilou, Alain (repr. 1946): Introduction to the study of musical scales.
    London: David Marlowe

    Best,

    Heike

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    Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 02:55:08 -0600
    From: "Al @ Switchcraft" <al@isd.net>
    To: retaehT maerD <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Symphony X in Minnesota
    Message-ID: <3FCDA4EC.81D94A11@isd.net>

    Hey gang!

      Does anyone else plan on going to see Symphony X at
    the Quest in Minnepolis on Dec. 4th? Pam???

    --
    Al -  The Ytse-ProGtologist
                               ^
    Switchcraft Microsystems
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    "Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of
    that comes from bad judgment"  --Will Rogers
    

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    Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:11:33 +1100 From: "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: Symphony X in Minnesota Message-ID: <OPEJJAPFDGDMCLAHLLIMKEFGDCAA.ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>

    Hey Al, haven't heard much from you for a while, where you been? :P

    Niall

    > -----Original Message----- > From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of > Al @ Switchcraft > Sent: Wednesday, 3 December 2003 7:58 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Symphony X in Minnesota > > > Hey gang! > > Does anyone else plan on going to see Symphony X at > the Quest in Minnepolis on Dec. 4th? Pam??? > > -- > Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist > ^ > Switchcraft Microsystems > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of > that comes from bad judgment" --Will Rogers > >

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    Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:09:32 -0600 (CST) From: Brian Hayden <bhayden@umn.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Symphony X in Minnesota Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.50.0312030809020.15196-100000@garnet.tc.umn.edu>

    > Does anyone else plan on going to see Symphony X at > the Quest in Minnepolis on Dec. 4th? Pam???

    nope, but i'll be at the dimmu borgir/nevermore/children of bodom on the seventh.

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    Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 09:09:42 -0500 From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Symphony X in Minnesota Message-ID: <003801c3b9a7$1952a730$9b00a8c0@mizz>

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    Nope, but saw them a few weeks ago with Devin Townsend. Awesome show.

    see below for a spoiler....

    SPOILERS:

    They played the Odyssey in its entirety :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Al @ Switchcraft To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 3:56 AM Subject: Symphony X in Minnesota

    Hey gang!

    Does anyone else plan on going to see Symphony X at the Quest in Minnepolis on Dec. 4th? Pam???

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    Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:12:31 -0600 From: "Todd O. Klindt" <todd@klindt.org> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: Symphony X in Minnesota Message-ID: <00C28D04FA7F95458F8875B411C376E37C08@Titanium.klindt.org>

    Hi Al!!

    I want to sooo baaaaad, but I just can't with work and school and stuff. Now that I know Al's gonna be there, I want to go even worse. Al's so cuddly in person.

    tk

    -----Original Message----- From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com] On Behalf Of Al @ Switchcraft Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:57 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: Symphony X in Minnesota

    Hey gang!

    Does anyone else plan on going to see Symphony X at the Quest in Minnepolis on Dec. 4th? Pam???

    -- Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist ^ Switchcraft Microsystems ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" --Will Rogers

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    Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:38:01 -0500 (EST) From: Sarah Hallum <sarah@subtlerage.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: SPOILER: Re: Symphony X in Minnesota Message-ID: <Pine.BSO.4.51.0312030937270.18310@weasel.doughmein.net>

    On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Mike Shetzer wrote:

    > > Nope, but saw them a few weeks ago with Devin Townsend. Awesome show. > > see below for a spoiler.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPOILERS: > > They played the Odyssey in its entirety :)

    They've been doing that since ProgPower back in September. :)

    Sarah (the party pooper)

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    Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:49:55 -0800 From: "Jennifer" <jennifer@jenniebear.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Opinions on Mike's "Liquid Drum Theater" Message-ID: <EGEGJALFDCFBNNEICGCEMEIIGOAA.jennifer@jenniebear.com>

    Okay, I'm thinking of getting "Liquid Drum Theater" on DVD for DH as a Christmas present, but first I wanted to get some input from the drummers out there who have seen it. After a long absence, DH has finally decided it is time again to get a kit. He has been in bands in the past, but played mostly rock/hard rock. What he would love to start playing now is prog and, of course, Mike Portnoy is an idol (if not *the* idol) of his. Is "Liquid Drum Theater" worth the money?

    Thanks, Jen

    {~._.~} God made the cat in order that man ( Y ) might have the pleasure of ()~*~() caressing the tiger. (_)-(_) Fernand Mery

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    Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 12:21:04 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Coutermarsh <andrew@acvox.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Opinions on Mike's "Liquid Drum Theater" Message-ID: <20031203122008.M46539@samurai.ruin.org>

    On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Jennifer wrote:

    > Okay, I'm thinking of getting "Liquid Drum Theater" on DVD for DH as a > Christmas present, but first I wanted to get some input from the > drummers out there who have seen it. After a long absence, DH has > finally decided it is time again to get a kit. He has been in bands in > the past, but played mostly rock/hard rock. What he would love to start > playing now is prog and, of course, Mike Portnoy is an idol (if not > *the* idol) of his. Is "Liquid Drum Theater" worth the money?

    LDT is most definitely worth the money. I'm not even a drummer and I feel that way. Mike talks a great deal about theory and breaks down everything in a way that is very easy to understand. All in all, I'd say it's a great instructional video, and in addition you get to hear some great alternative mixes of music.

    ------------------------------------------------- Andrew Coutermarsh - http://www.acvox.com/ Email Address: andrew at acvox dot com ------------------------------------------------- Researchers have discovered that chocolate produces some of the same reactions in the brain as marijuana. The researchers also discovered other similarities between the two, but can't remember what they are. -------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:52:17 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: transatlantic dvd 5.1 audio? Message-ID: <20031203175217.27548.qmail@web13125.mail.yahoo.com>

    Has anyone been able to get 5.1 audio from the new Transatlantic DVD? I have tried going to the "audio options" page on the DVD, but that seems to be a dead-end. Can't set anything (5.1 option is there), can't get back to the main menu, seems like a dead page. Is this another known bug with the DVD?

    thx, BH

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    Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:52:59 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Opinions on Mike's "Liquid Drum Theater" Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.58.0312031833550.6426@norge.freeshell.org>

    it is well worth the money. i would recommend the DVD, since it contains everything the VHS has plus extras. i've had it since it came out, & i've since worn my VHS copy out, which made it necessary to get the DVD. from one drummer to another, it's one of the best drumming instructional videos out there. plus, i know people who dig watching it who don't play a lick on the kit.

    some other good videos that i would rank right up there with MP's would be Steve Smith "Drumset Technique / History of the US Beat", & John Blackwell "Technique, Grooving, & Showmanship". Both are incredible, & masters of their instruments.

    For those that aren't drummers, but love great live performances, get the 2 DVD Modern Drummer 2003 set. It features Steve Smith's "Vital Information" (great fusion), Nick D'Virgilio doing some solo & Spock's stuff, & Mike Portnoy performing with both Yellow Matter Custard & Dream Theater!!! Incredible stuff, & not to be missed.

    -- Best Regards, Independent Computer Consultant, Eric George -Tech Guru's

    "The least important things in life get the most appreciation. The most important things in life don't seem to get enough." -me

    Proud "Trillian" user http://www.ceruleanstudios.com AIM screename: Ryften13 ICQ #: 163843613 drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org (text-based email) schnerck@hotmail.com -or- peruvian@dreamtheater.zzn.com (HTML-based email) SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org Progressive Musician's Forum - http://www0.org/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi#general

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    Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 14:21:13 -0500 From: "Dave Schott" <admdave@qis.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Opinions on Mike's "Liquid Drum Theater" Message-ID: <022e01c3b9d2$9e321960$0200a8c0@Two>

    Don't forget the Victor Wooten/Carter Beauford video! Beauford is an animal!

    -Dave Schott (AdmiralDave) admdave@qis.net http://www.bangarangband.com

    ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric George" <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 1:51 PM Subject: Re: Opinions on Mike's "Liquid Drum Theater"

    > it is well worth the money. i would recommend the DVD, since it contains > everything the VHS has plus extras. i've had it since it came out, & i've > since worn my VHS copy out, which made it necessary to get the DVD. from > one drummer to another, it's one of the best drumming instructional videos > out there. plus, i know people who dig watching it who don't play a lick > on the kit. > > some other good videos that i would rank right up there with MP's would be > Steve Smith "Drumset Technique / History of the US Beat", & John Blackwell > "Technique, Grooving, & Showmanship". Both are incredible, & masters of > their instruments. > > For those that aren't drummers, but love great live performances, get the > 2 DVD Modern Drummer 2003 set. It features Steve Smith's "Vital > Information" (great fusion), Nick D'Virgilio doing some solo & Spock's > stuff, & Mike Portnoy performing with both Yellow Matter Custard & Dream > Theater!!! Incredible stuff, & not to be missed. > > -- > Best Regards, Independent Computer Consultant, > Eric George -Tech Guru's > > > "The least important things in life > get the most appreciation. > The most important things in life > don't seem to get enough." > -me > > Proud "Trillian" user > http://www.ceruleanstudios.com > AIM screename: Ryften13 > ICQ #: 163843613 > drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org (text-based email) > schnerck@hotmail.com -or- > peruvian@dreamtheater.zzn.com (HTML-based email) > SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org > Progressive Musician's Forum - > http://www0.org/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi#general >

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    Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:05:07 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric George <drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Opinions on Mike's "Liquid Drum Theater" Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.58.0312032201330.16875@norge.freeshell.org>

    On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Dave Schott wrote:

    > Don't forget the Victor Wooten/Carter Beauford video! Beauford is an animal!

    awesome video, yes. but, for someone trying to get back into playing, it's not nearly as instructional as the Portnoy, Smith, or Blackwell vids. very inspirational, watching the collaboration process between Beauford & Wooten. both are certainly masters of their instruments/genres.

    -- Best Regards, Independent Computer Consultant, Eric George -Tech Guru's

    "The least important things in life get the most appreciation. The most important things in life don't seem to get enough." -me

    Proud "Trillian" user http://www.ceruleanstudios.com AIM screename: Ryften13 ICQ #: 163843613 drizzt@sdf.lonestar.org (text-based email) schnerck@hotmail.com -or- peruvian@dreamtheater.zzn.com (HTML-based email) SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org Progressive Musician's Forum - http://www0.org/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi#general

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    Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:55:40 -0400 From: "Alexis, Axel, Tony" <alexis1@prtc.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: A few things Message-ID: <002701c3b9f0$95519ff0$0301a8c0@Tony>

    1. I recently downloaded James singing the US national anthem from a link posted at the James LaBrie message board, and I think I've listened to it about 20 times in a row, maybe more!!!!! I have it on repeat and has been playing for a while now. It's fuckin great!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've always wished to be able to hear him perform the national anthem, and my wish has become a reality. He sings it effortlessly and even does some amazing showing off at the "land of the freeeeee" part. I love it!!!!!!! That song shows how amazing his range is.

    2. I completely agree with the person who said the Transatlantic DVD and cd rule. Great performance by everybody, with great energy. Neal's voice cracks a few times (see, it happens to other people too, not just to James), but it really doesn't matter. Everybody's having a lot of fun and everybody shines. Pete Trewavas is a very good bassist, by the way.

    3. Has anybody here ordered the Frameshift cd? I was going to order it from the progrock records site (or whatever its name is), but I would have had to pay over $15 for S&H because it seems like they only ship via UPS to Puerto Rico. Is this cd going to be available on any other online store?

    4. Just read that James is going to be the MAIN character in Ayreon's new album!!!!!! I had read he was going to be singing in it, but not that he would have such a prominent role. I can't wait for that cd to be released!!!!!!

    5. Damn I love Dennis Chambers. I recently got the cd Extraction with him, Greg Howe and Victor Wooten, and it kicks ass!!! Also got CAB4, where he also kicks ass, along with Tony Macalpine, Bunny Brunel and others. Why can't Portnoy be this loose and unpredictable, at least when it fits the songs? Hey Mike, rhythm can sometimes be implied, you know? I also got Dave Weckl's new double live album, with Tom Kennedy (played with Planet X) on bass. Amazing drummer as well, maybe even more technically complex than Chambers. Great cd as well.

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    Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:14:51 EST From: Kgahjah1@aol.com To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Opinions on Mike's "Liquid Drum Theater" Message-ID: <1cb.156e4017.2cffd67b@aol.com>

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    i got it for my son last year for christmas, he loves it. it also taught him quite a bit. if it can help a then six year old, it should help dh. jacko

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    Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 19:14:04 -0600 From: Michael & Pamela Nazer <mnazer@pressenter.com> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: Symphony X in Minnesota Message-ID: <BBF3E206.4CEF%mnazer@pressenter.com>

    on 12/3/03 2:57 AM, Al @ Switchcraft at al@isd.net wrote:

    > Hey gang! > > Does anyone else plan on going to see Symphony X at > the Quest in Minnepolis on Dec. 4th? Pam??? > > -- > Al - The Ytse-ProGtologist > ^

    I won't be able to make this one :(. I am booked with patients until 5:00, and since it is a 5:00 show it just won't work out. We also have parent teacher conferences and it is my hubby's b-day. Please let us know how the show was, I have never been to the ascot room, so I am interested in what it is like.

    Pam

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    Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:27:29 -0500 From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: SPOILER: Re: Symphony X in Minnesota Message-ID: <002601c3ba05$c85c97a0$9b00a8c0@mizz>

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    LOL, u serious? Well it's EXTRA special for us in Montreal cuz last tour in April they promised they'd play it next time, so they kept their promise :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Sarah Hallum To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:47 AM Subject: SPOILER: Re: Symphony X in Minnesota

    On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Mike Shetzer wrote:

    > > Nope, but saw them a few weeks ago with Devin Townsend. Awesome show. > > see below for a spoiler.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPOILERS: > > They played the Odyssey in its entirety :)

    They've been doing that since ProgPower back in September. :)

    Sarah (the party pooper)

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    Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:28:49 -0500 From: "Kez" <bkeyser@cox.net> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Washington Post Review of ToT.......WOW Message-ID: <00bf01c3ba0e$59cafe90$6401a8c0@amdathlon14>

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A29997-2003Dec2.html

    I almost fell out of my chair while reading it at lunch. Maybe the world is finally catching on?

    Kez

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