YTSEJAM digest 6427

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Date: Thu Jan 09 2003 - 16:01:23 EST

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 6427

    Today's Topics:

      1) Anybody know anything about these CD's?
     by Thor <thor@thorbazler.com>
      2) Re: phish
     by "Karyn Hamilton" <littlewenda@hotmail.com>
      3) Re: LOTR - Secret Diaries
     by "Alexandra O'Connell" <nocalc@yahoo.com>
      4) Some comments / queries / thoughts...
     by Luke Bateup <lbateup@staff.bond.edu.au>
      5) Re: Some comments / queries / thoughts...
     by WB Henderson <wbhenderson@cs.millersville.edu>
      6) Re: Some comments / queries / thoughts...
     by WB Henderson <wbhenderson@cs.millersville.edu>
      7) Re: Some comments / queries / thoughts...
     by "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@zero.corp.publichost.com>
      8) Re: Some comments / queries / thoughts...
     by Peter Geerts <petergee1@yahoo.com>
      9) Re: Some comments / queries / thoughts...
     by WB Henderson <wbhenderson@cs.millersville.edu>
     10) RE: Zappa
     by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>

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    Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 13:10:25 -0800
    From: Thor <thor@thorbazler.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Anybody know anything about these CD's?
    Message-ID: <BA41D3C1.880D%thor@thorbazler.com>

    Anybody know anything about these CD's?

    Band: CD:
    All That I Bleed Dying To Remember
    All Too Human Entropy

    Thanks in advance!
    Thor

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    Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 07:18:52 +1000
    From: "Karyn Hamilton" <littlewenda@hotmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: phish
    Message-ID: <BAY2-F129KQpQq5pnee000025b4@hotmail.com>

    Hehe, prognerd; that sounds like a good word to print on a tshirt.

    -- Karyn

    PS in bold gothic font, with perhaps a lightning strike or two in the
    background and a dragon holding a giant black guitar.

    >Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 15:00:42 -0600 (CST)
    >From: "Brian V. Cox" <lerxst@metronet.com>
    >To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    >Subject: phish
    >Message-ID: <200301072100.h07L0hK07363@metronet.com>
    >
    >yeah, i've NEVER heard that attitude from a dream-theater
    >fan or a prognerd in general... ;)

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    Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 13:41:13 -0800 (PST)
    From: "Alexandra O'Connell" <nocalc@yahoo.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: LOTR - Secret Diaries
    Message-ID: <20030108214113.78989.qmail@web13805.mail.yahoo.com>

    >I'm really enjoying the Lord of the Rings - Secret
    >Diaries.. This is hysterical.

    I agree. Totally hilarious.

    >http://home.nyu.edu/~amw243/diaries/

    >Frodo went to Mordor. Said he was going alone, but
    >took Sam with him. Why?

    "Tiny little men caring about each other, rather cute
    really."

    :)

    Alex

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    Suspect Eowyn fancies me. Cannot blame her as stubble so manly is turning even self on.

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    Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 15:03:28 +1000
    From: Luke Bateup <lbateup@staff.bond.edu.au>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Some comments / queries / thoughts...
    Message-ID: <000301c2b79c$7294f0e0$3917f483@staff.ad.bond.edu.au>

    Hello,

    1. I bought Devin Townsend's new one, Terria. It's the first album by Devin
    I've bought and I fucking love it, especially Mountain, Earth Day, Canada,
    The Fluke and Stagnant. The next album I should by is Ocean Machine, right?
    What are Physicist and Infinity like? I like the idea of the brass section
    and other instrumentation on Infinity.

    2. Rhapsody's Legendary Tales was great, Symphony of Enchanted Lands was
    awesome. Dawn Of Victory and Rain Of A Thousand Flames however, were rather
    dissapointing. Is Power Of The Dragon Flame any good? Considering that I
    love the more progressive songs with the epic, sweeping orchestral moments,
    over the straight ahead melodic, speed metal sections. Are any of Luca
    Turilli's or Alex Staropoli's solo ablums worth picking up?

    3. Is it just me, or is Porcupine Tree's new album In Absentia absolutely
    fucking AWESOME!? As much as I've liked PT's earlier albums (Stupid Dream,
    Signify and Lightbulb Sun being my favs over the more spacey, ambient
    earlier ones), I've always thought PT could have done with a shot of
    adrenaline in their music - right in the heart, Uma Thurman style. And with
    IA, they've done it! Easily their heaviest and most aggressive release to
    date. I think I read somewhere that Steve Wilson was hanging with the guys
    from Opeth, maybe that explains it. This is probably my vote for album of
    the year so far, seconded by Terria. These guys need interational exposure
    and recognition NOW! I can see this album sloting itself in nicely to at
    least a few radio stations over here in Australia.

    4. Did anyone enjoy Enchant's new one, Blink Of An Eye? Some parts of it are
    cool, but overall it was pretty dissapointing. Break didn't do much for me,
    so I stayed away from Juggling 9 Dropping 10. I freaked when I saw that Paul
    Craddick wasn't drumming on BOAE - he's one of the most underrated drummers
    of all time, along with Sean Reinert. I have BPOTW, I love it. I'm looking
    at getting the Time Lost EP/Wounded double set. Worth it?

    5. Threshold's new one, Critical Mass is fairly average. Some great moments
    again, but overall it's nothing significant. Pychadelicatessan however was
    very cool, same with Extinct Instinct, and I did prefer Glynn Morgan's vox
    to Damian Wilson. What are Hypothetical and Clone like? Is Wounded Land
    worth checking out?

    6. Is the new Meshuggah any good? I have Contradictions Collapse/None, but I
    was hesitant to pick up Chaosphere as I've heard it's far too technical and
    inaccessible. Any other good Meshuggah discs?

    7. Are there better digest mode mailing lists other than Ytsejam? (excluding
    TEOF)

    Luke.

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    Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 00:54:18 -0500
    From: WB Henderson <wbhenderson@cs.millersville.edu>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Some comments / queries / thoughts...
    Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20030109001651.01b0f590@cs.millersville.edu>

    >Are any of Luca Turilli's or Alex Staropoli's solo ablums worth picking up?

    "King of the Nordic Twilight" is a quality disc. It can easily go
    toe-to-toe with any Rhapsody album. Dunno about the new one.

    >4. Did anyone enjoy Enchant's new one, Blink Of An Eye? Some parts of it are
    >cool, but overall it was pretty dissapointing.

    While I haven't heard this album yet, I must say the new tracks they played
    live at last year's NEARfest did not impress me. To tell the truth, their
    whole set at last year's NEARfest was disappointing. IMO, Enchant's been
    going downhill since their first album.

    >I'm looking at getting the Time Lost EP/Wounded double set. Worth it?

    "Time Lost" alone is worth buying. "Wounded" is alright, certainly a
    decent bonus when tacked onto "Time Lost."

    >What are Hypothetical and Clone like? Is Wounded Land worth checking out?

    "Wounded Land" is my favorite Threshold disc, but it's Damian Wilson's
    show. If you don't like his voice (which shouldn't be judged by "Extinct
    Instinct"), you won't like that one. "Clone" and "Hypothetical" are
    similar, with "Clone" being the better of the two.

    >Any other good Meshuggah discs?

    You'll definitely want to grab "Destroy Erase Improve" - it's somewhat of a
    middle-ground between "Contradictions Collapse" and "Chaosphere."

    Brian

    =============================================
    WB Henderson [wbhenderson@cs.millersville.edu]
    (or, if you prefer / that fails...LycanthropicEye@yahoo.com)
    =============================================

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    Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 00:57:55 -0500
    From: WB Henderson <wbhenderson@cs.millersville.edu>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Some comments / queries / thoughts...
    Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20030109005542.01b148f8@cs.millersville.edu>

    To clarify:

    >"Clone" and "Hypothetical" are similar, with "Clone" being the better of
    >the two.

    They're similar to each other...not "Wounded Land." Both are (Big) Mac albums.

    Brian

    =============================================
    WB Henderson [wbhenderson@cs.millersville.edu]
    (or, if you prefer / that fails...LycanthropicEye@yahoo.com)
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    Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 23:07:41 -0800
    From: "Dr. Mosh" <drkhoe@zero.corp.publichost.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Some comments / queries / thoughts...
    Message-ID: <20030108230741.A3246@zero.corp.publichost.com>

     0. Luke Bateup <lbateup@staff.bond.edu.au> farted:
    > Hello,
    >
    > 1. I bought Devin Townsend's new one, Terria. It's the first album by Devin
    > I've bought and I fucking love it, especially Mountain, Earth Day, Canada,
    > The Fluke and Stagnant. The next album I should by is Ocean Machine, right?
    > What are Physicist and Infinity like? I like the idea of the brass section
    > and other instrumentation on Infinity.

    You have to get all of them, doesn't matter.
    Including all the Strapping Young Lad, cause Gene Hoglan RULES!!

    > 3. Is it just me, or is Porcupine Tree's new album In Absentia absolutely
    > fucking AWESOME!? As much as I've liked PT's earlier albums (Stupid Dream,
    > Signify and Lightbulb Sun being my favs over the more spacey, ambient
    > earlier ones), I've always thought PT could have done with a shot of

    I'm more for the heavy stuff but PT's album did impress me.

    > 6. Is the new Meshuggah any good? I have Contradictions Collapse/None, but I
    > was hesitant to pick up Chaosphere as I've heard it's far too technical and
    > inaccessible. Any other good Meshuggah discs?

    The new one in general has slightly more groove than Chaosphere with the highlight
    to me being Nothing... but Chaosphere is just noise... too much science and not
    enough music...

    -The Doc

    -- 
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    http://www.zeromemory.com - metal for your ears.
    

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    Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 03:50:35 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Geerts <petergee1@yahoo.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Some comments / queries / thoughts... Message-ID: <20030109115035.17344.qmail@web20808.mail.yahoo.com>

    --- Luke Bateup <lbateup@staff.bond.edu.au> wrote: > 2. Rhapsody's Legendary Tales was great, Symphony of Enchanted Lands > was > awesome. Dawn Of Victory and Rain Of A Thousand Flames however, were > rather > dissapointing. Is Power Of The Dragon Flame any good?

    Although no Rhapsody album has beaten SoEL yet, I do think Power of the Dragonflame is better than Dawn of a victory... more complex and symphonic. Gotta love those albumtitles though:-)

    --- WB Henderson <wbhenderson@cs.millersville.edu> wrote: > >What are Hypothetical and Clone like? Is Wounded Land worth checking > out? > > "Wounded Land" is my favorite Threshold disc, but it's Damian > Wilson's > show. If you don't like his voice (which shouldn't be judged by > "Extinct > Instinct"), you won't like that one. "Clone" and "Hypothetical" are > similar, with "Clone" being the better of the two.

    I strongly disagree with you here. For the sake of balance: IMO Hypothetical is the best of the three Andrew McDermott albums, and I think they took a step back with Critical Mass... I still prefer Damian on Extinct Instinct though. The most complex and original Threshold album to date. Why do you think Damian's voice isn't representative on Extinct Instinct BTW?

    Back lurking now..

    Cheers

    Peter

    NP: Meduza - Now and Forever Vanden Plas - The God Thing

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    Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 12:52:26 -0500 From: WB Henderson <wbhenderson@cs.millersville.edu> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: Some comments / queries / thoughts... Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20030109124436.01a4b6d0@cs.millersville.edu>

    >Why do you think Damian's voice isn't representative on Extinct Instinct BTW?

    It sounds strained in certain parts. Could be the mix. At any rate, he comes off sounding better to my ear on "Wounded Land" (and assorted Ayreon songs).

    Brian

    ============================================= WB Henderson [wbhenderson@cs.millersville.edu] (or, if you prefer / that fails...LycanthropicEye@yahoo.com) =============================================

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    Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 12:32:46 -0600 From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com> Subject: RE: Zappa Message-ID: <4642CF49B0BEB44386CA20BD34DC2438811A40@hhpech01.healthaxis.dom>

    You know My python boot is too tight I couldn't get it off last night A week went by And now it's July I finally got it off And my girlfriend cried, *YOU GOT STINK-FOOT!* Stink-foot, darlin'

    Your Stink-foot Puts a hurt on my nose Stink-foot, stink-foot, I ain't lyin' Can you rinse it off, do you suppose? *(Here Fido, Fido, mpt, mpt, mpt, come here little puppy Bring the slippers Arf, arf, arf (C-R-A-S-H) Huhm, HAH, HAH, HAH...hmhmhm)* STINK!

    hahahahh sorry... got lost in a Zappa moment :))

    JM

    -----Original Message----- From: Michael Kaplan

    I've been told (and even heard some myself) that there exists some Frank Zappa material that is very progessive and shares some of the elements present in the music we all enjoy so much. Might anybody be able to recommend some that I could check out? I remember hearing a piece once that had some really cool rock organ stuff in it. Any suggestions would be appreciated! Note though, that this is different than asking what your FAVORITE Zappa is ;-) I imagine were I to do that, I get pointed to the "corn hole" song.. This time around I'm looking for the more progressive stuff he's done. Thanks all!!

    Michael

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