YTSEJAM Digest 6442
Today's Topics:
1) RE: Recommendations from Ytsejammers
by Shai Yallin <yallin@netvision.net.il>
2) Re: Recommendations
by Tom Tubbiola <ttubbiola@earthlink.net>
3) Re: Recommendations from Ytsejammers
by "Antony Gelberg" <ag@antgel.co.uk>
4) RE: John Popper
by "D C" <Iluvatar@twcny.rr.com>
5) RE: John Popper
by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
6) Re: Iced Earth/Ra
by "Alexandra O'Connell" <nocalc@yahoo.com>
7) Re: Re: Recommendations from Ytsejammers
by A <Enfermo@rocketmail.com>
8) re: Iced Earth/Ra
by Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
9) Re: Recommendations from Ytsejammers
by "Rick Rosinski" <rick@rosinski.com>
10) FYI
by "TREVOR HOIT" <trevorhoit@attbi.com>
11) A quick little aside regarding Ray Alder
by "Scott (Virtuality)" <ninja@mindspring.com>
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:53:47 +0200
From: Shai Yallin <yallin@netvision.net.il>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: RE: Recommendations from Ytsejammers
Message-ID: <000401c2c386$1b7a0250$0100a8c0@familymamad>
Hey, I never said BUY a copy of Remedy Lane, I said GET one.
Fact is, everyone I've introduced this album to thought it was amazingly
good.
IMHO, this album is their most mature so far, and it really is worth a
listen.
I know - I spent 3 years ignoring all the people that said "listen to
PoS", and now I realize what a fool I've been...
Shai
-----Original Message-----
From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com] On Behalf Of
HJ Rivera
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 11:40 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: RE: Recommendations from Ytsejammers
Shai said:
>For those of you that still haven't listened to PoS: do yourself a
>favor and get a copy of Remedy Lane.
Sorry, I can't let this one go. For those who still haven't heard it,
SAMPLE it first. Trust me. POS is an interesting band, no doubt, but as
some are prone to say, your mileage may vary. A few years ago I went out
and bought every POS album available at the time and my ears/brain
couldn't believe the abuse I put them through. To say the least, POS
didn't appeal to me at all. I'd hate it to happen to anyone else. SAMPLE
before you buy.
joe
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 01:09:59 -0800
From: Tom Tubbiola <ttubbiola@earthlink.net>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Recommendations
Message-ID: <BA5642E7.6548%ttubbiola@earthlink.net>
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Someone mentioned Pagan=B9s Mind. I just bought their new CD Celestial
Entrance and it has become my new favorite CD. They sound a lot like what D
T
should have been after Images and Words. Definitely on the =B3Heavy Metal=B2
side of Prog though. I absolutely love it.
Tom
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:10:47 -0000
From: "Antony Gelberg" <ag@antgel.co.uk>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Recommendations from Ytsejammers
Message-ID: <001c01c2c390$dd1a9910$1900a8c0@Loanprocessing.co.uk>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shai Yallin" <yallin@netvision.net.il>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:51 AM
Subject: RE: Recommendations from Ytsejammers
> Hey, I never said BUY a copy of Remedy Lane, I said GET one.
> Fact is, everyone I've introduced this album to thought it was amazingly
> good.
> IMHO, this album is their most mature so far, and it really is worth a
> listen.
> I know - I spent 3 years ignoring all the people that said "listen to
> PoS", and now I realize what a fool I've been...
I think most people on this list probably do sample albums before they buy
them anyway. Personally I like the album, but I don't rank it in the
all-time classics like some people. For those of you who haven't heard
them, if I had to compare them to DT, I would say that they are not that
similar. Their playing is not quite as good, and they are more contemporary
and a little darker in their sound. Not as "prog" either.
Tony
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 06:59:33 -0500
From: "D C" <Iluvatar@twcny.rr.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: John Popper
Message-ID: <BOEAJJBDNFPALMNMJONIKEMKCBAA.Iluvatar@twcny.rr.com>
>You guys must be thinking of Bobby Sheehan, Bass player for Blues Traveler,
>he passed away a few years ago.
Oh ok, maybe that was it. I probably heard "Blues Traveller.... dead" and
assumed, fo robvious reasons, that it was the realy fat guy.
-Dan.
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:01:29 -0600
From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: John Popper
Message-ID: <4642CF49B0BEB44386CA20BD34DC2438900BCA@hhpech01.healthaxis.dom>
He lost a ton of weight a few years back..
-----Original Message-----
From: D C [mailto:Iluvatar@twcny.rr.com]
>You guys must be thinking of Bobby Sheehan, Bass player for Blues Traveler,
>he passed away a few years ago.
Oh ok, maybe that was it. I probably heard "Blues Traveller.... dead" and
assumed, fo robvious reasons, that it was the realy fat guy.
-Dan.
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:42:13 -0800 (PST)
From: "Alexandra O'Connell" <nocalc@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Iced Earth/Ra
Message-ID: <20030124154213.55296.qmail@web13805.mail.yahoo.com>
>What is this Ra album you guys keep talking about?
>What does it sound like?
>Thorin
Check out www.raband.net for some info/samples on
their album. They are a new band out of Boston,
Massachussetts, and this is their first album, I
believe. They sound like they would be getting radio
play... but they haven't really broken into the NY
market. It's rock, basically... can get pretty heavy,
& they use some interesting middle eastern
chords/melodies. Their single Do You Call My Name
kicks ass :) It's not the most groundbreaking CD but
it's good for what it is, and I really like it.
Alex
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:48:11 -0600 (CST)
From: A <Enfermo@rocketmail.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: Re: Recommendations from Ytsejammers
Message-ID: <20030124174811.40864.qmail@web41112.mail.yahoo.com>
Aah, Pain of Salvation... I was very impressed when Entropia came
out, it's a very eclectic, unique album that showed a lot of
potential from the band... and with each subsequent album my interest
has dropped lower and lower. Why? Because they don't sound that
different from your ordinary progressive metal anymore. They're just
a good band with a good singer now, their albums are decent but
nowhere near special as Entropia was.
Still, I think you should sample them. There's no accounting for
taste, etc..
AVG
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:00:19 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Hansen <bhansen10@yahoo.com>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: re: Iced Earth/Ra
Message-ID: <20030124180019.49928.qmail@web13105.mail.yahoo.com>
"Robert Newcomb" <newcombr@netdot.com> queried:
> What is this Ra album you guys keep talking about?
> What does it sound like?
I would call it Alternative/Nu Metal sounding.
Standard song structure, no extra long songs. More
like Korn than DT...
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 20:34:17 -0500
From: "Rick Rosinski" <rick@rosinski.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: Recommendations from Ytsejammers
Message-ID: <041b01c2c411$e0bb61e0$6401a8c0@amd1>
> Platypus - Ice Cycles
Good, but not as good as "When Pus Comes To Shove", IMHO.
> Pain of Salvation - Remedy Lane
I still haven't given this one thorough, multiple listens although I like
Entropia and The Perfect Element.
> Porcupine Tree - In absentia
Very good, as are most PT CD's. Definitely in my Top Ten for 2002...
> Gordian Knot - Emergent
Just got this today and am listening to it right now! The End Records
(www.theendrecords.com) has it for only $12 with free shipping!
> Flower Kings - Unfold the future
This one takes a few listens. On my first listen, I thought it was just
"okay". But it's been growing on me with repeated listenings. I still
don't like some of the jazz and improv stuff on it, but songs like "The
Truth Will Set You Free", "Silent Inferno" and "Devil's Playground" are new
TFK groundbreakers.
> Planet X - Moon Babies
On my "buy" list...
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 19:32:15 -0800
From: "TREVOR HOIT" <trevorhoit@attbi.com>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: FYI
Message-ID: <004801c2c422$5d417be0$f7a2eb0c@attbi.com>
There is a French Progressive Melodic Metal band called "Adagio" with a
cd called "Sanctus Ignis"
that I like a lot, so when I saw that "Adagio" had another cd called
"Romantic Serenades" I bought it.
Turns out the second "Adagio" is a Brazilian gothy/dark/cookiemonster
band. I don't like it.
Not that there's anything wrong with cookie monster vocals if you like
them. :)
C is for Cookie, that's good enough for me,
Trevor
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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 02:49:44 -0500
From: "Scott (Virtuality)" <ninja@mindspring.com>
Subject: A quick little aside regarding Ray Alder
Message-ID: <3E324195.1264FE3D@mindspring.com>
Quickly, a few things:
Vigilante Fates Warning Guy says: In the latest issue of PROGRESSION magazine, the
vocalist spotlight column (VOX) features an intriguing and colorful analysis of our
beloved RAY ALDER. Check it out, cats. (the website is as follows:
http://www.progressionmagazine.com/)
Speaking of Ray Alder, I would still highly recommend the 2nd ENGINE CD (Superholic)
from 2002 as a fine, dandy and exquisite addition to your collection of bone-crushing,
melodic and contemporary rock music. Granted, the debut ENGINE CD is marginally better,
but don't let this one slip past your radar like one of Dark Helmet's Strawberry Jam
starships...
Speaking of Ray Alder speaking of Fates Warning and Dream Theater, if I'm not mistaken,
the OSI (Office of Strategic Influence... of what influence, from what office and
utilizing what exact strategem, I am not sure) CD is due out in a month, methinks. All
I can say is: Matheos, Moore, Portnoy, Malone and a guest appearance (probably NOT on
flugal horn) by Porcupine Tree's Steve Wilson. Should be a happenin' CD folks... 'Nuff
said.
Lastly, this just in from the Allroundniceguy: Work has commenced OFFICIALLY on the 3rd
CD from yours truly... updates to arrive as time permits, and my brain remains
cognitive, and functional. Thanks! Peace...
- Your Friendly Neighborhood Allroundniceguy
Scott Mosher - The VIRTUALITY CD
http://www.theambientmind.com/virtuality/
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