YTSEJAM digest 6569

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Tue Jun 17 2003 - 05:38:16 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) DT new album, Derek, Angra, disappointing cds
     by "Alexis Ramos" <Aramos@vivienda.gobierno.pr>
      2) Re: DT new album, Derek, Angra, disappointing cds
     by "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
      3) RE: yngwie
     by "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
      4) Re: yngwie
     by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
      5) Re: Re: MP Forums
     by Alfonso Vargas Gamio <Enfermo@rocketmail.com>
      6) Operation Mindcrime
     by "Pierre Tessier" <PTessi@lacitec.on.ca>
      7) Re: RIP
     by Kgahjah1@aol.com
      8) RE: DT new album, Derek, Angra, disappointing cds
     by "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
      9) DT ticket for sale
     by Stan Tyszka <soculese@bellatlantic.net>
     10) RE: DT ticket for sale
     by Niall Connaughton <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
     11) presale password
     by "TREVOR HOIT" <trevorhoit@attbi.com>

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    Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:58:26 -0400
    From: "Alexis Ramos" <Aramos@vivienda.gobierno.pr>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: DT new album, Derek, Angra, disappointing cds
    Message-ID: <757DAAB5CD7E934CBF86345BF0CD5DF755AB2B@mailserver.vivienda.local>

    About DT's new album having a more classic metal sound, I'm 100% sure it will still sound very progressive. The main difference I think will be the influences that will pop up once you listen to it. Just like when you'd listen to the last album and say "hey, this has a Toolish or a Radioheadish sound", maybe in the next one you'll say "hey, this has an Iron Maidenish sound or a Megadethish sound" (didn't wan't to say Metallicish).

    About Derek's new album, I like it quite a bit, altough it hasn't grasped me like his previous efforts. Nothing beats Planet X, but still Inertia had more of my attention than Black Utopia. It's still very good, though. I really can't explain the reason why it hasn't grasped me.

    About Angra, none of their albums are even close to being a disappointment for me. Fireworks was a change of pace compared to Holy Land, but I really like it. It's a great album, but it was sort of a shock after what you'd come to expect following Holy Land. And, by the way, I highly recommend you get Hunters and Prey as well as the live album and DVD. H&P is an EP, but it's a masterpiece of an EP. The song H&P is worth the price of the cd alone. You should also check out Shaman (the other half of Angra), which is great as well.

    About the following disappointing cds:

    > -Pain of Salvation: Remedy Lane (before you start flaming: I dig The
    > Perfect Element)

    Well, I really can't agree with that. For me, RL is probably their best album, while I think TPE is probably their weakest (although it's still a very good album).

    > -Explorer's Club: Raising the Mammoth

    Am I the only person who loves this album? The second song kind of drags a bit (the one before the LaBrie one), but the rest for me is brilliant. Again, I was a little disappointed at first, but that bastard grew on me like a weed :-) This album has one of the best intros I've heard, especially with Marty's soloing. By the way, Marty Friedman's latest album "Music for Speeding" is very good.

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    Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 10:31:41 -0500
    From: "Carlos A. Alfaro" <calfaro@yunque.net>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Re: DT new album, Derek, Angra, disappointing cds
    Message-ID: <000b01c3341c$62c1c2e0$4597230c@ROSCABOX>

    cds

    > About DT's new album having a more classic metal sound, I'm 100% sure it
    will still sound very progressive. The main difference I think will be the
    influences that will pop up once you listen to it. Just like when you'd
    listen to the last album and say "hey, this has a Toolish or a Radioheadish
    sound", maybe in the next one you'll say "hey, this has an Iron Maidenish
    sound or a Megadethish sound" (didn't wan't to say Metallicish).

    I would hope for an album that the influences DONT pop out when listening to
    it, for a change instead. (I hate to mention it because its been beaten to
    death but ie : awake)

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    Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:44:38 -0500
    From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
    To: "'ytsejam@torchsong.com'" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: RE: yngwie
    Message-ID: <4642CF49B0BEB44386CA20BD34DC24380127D01E@hhpech01.healthaxis.dom>

    I expected to hear Derek more in the foreground on this CD but it's just not
    as up-front to me. Don't get me wrong -- it's a really good CD. Guess
    I'm biased because of Yngwie being on it. If he weren't on it, I may not
    have bought it.. just personal observation.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Mike Shetzer [mailto:echo26@videotron.ca]

    > >Want a Hot Sports Opinion? Yngwie is the best thing to happen to
    > Derek
    > >Sherinian's new CD... there ya go :)
    >
    > Um, no, don't you mean the worst? :) His(Derek's) new cd is my least
    > favorite so far....

    Yeah? I like his new CD. Yngwie pulls some cool stuff, and Derek's stuff in
    general is pretty weirdly cool to begin with :)

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    Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:24:26 -0400
    From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: yngwie
    Message-ID: <002101c33423$c12f2d20$9b00a8c0@mike>

    I strangely dreamt last night that I was at a local music store and Virgil
    and Derek were there browsing. I apologized profusely for missing his show
    on June 9th, and he said not to worry. I woke up before he answered why he
    didn't bring Yngwie on tour with him. Damn dreams!! :D

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Souter, Jan-Michael" <JSouter@healthaxis.com>
    To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 10:51 AM
    Subject: RE: yngwie

    > I expected to hear Derek more in the foreground on this CD but it's just
    not
    > as up-front to me. Don't get me wrong -- it's a really good CD. Guess
    > I'm biased because of Yngwie being on it. If he weren't on it, I may not
    > have bought it.. just personal observation.
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Mike Shetzer [mailto:echo26@videotron.ca]
    >
    >
    > > >Want a Hot Sports Opinion? Yngwie is the best thing to happen to
    > > Derek
    > > >Sherinian's new CD... there ya go :)
    > >
    > > Um, no, don't you mean the worst? :) His(Derek's) new cd is my least
    > > favorite so far....
    >
    > Yeah? I like his new CD. Yngwie pulls some cool stuff, and Derek's stuff
    in
    > general is pretty weirdly cool to begin with :)
    >
    >

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    Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:09:07 -0500 (CDT)
    From: Alfonso Vargas Gamio <Enfermo@rocketmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Re: MP Forums
    Message-ID: <20030616170907.58669.qmail@web41106.mail.yahoo.com>

    Nope, he's just the supreme BS stirrer :)

    AVG

    Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 00:09:49 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Peter Geerts <petergee1@yahoo.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: MP Forums

    Hehe you're not the webmaster over there are you?

    --- Kurt Hampton <kurt.hampton@juno.com> wrote:
    >
    > Why whatever do you mean about BS on the mp.com forum? I know of no
    > such thing at all....
    >
    > ;)

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    Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:22:23 -0400
    From: "Pierre Tessier" <PTessi@lacitec.on.ca>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: Operation Mindcrime
    Message-ID: <seedc49e.069@email.lacitec.on.ca>

    Hey,

    From: Mike Shetzer, wrote

    Metropolis 3? I didn't think of that. Now my blood is burning waiting
    to
    hear what they're coming up with :)
    Any idea why they would be touring BEFORE the new album comes out?
    No Idea, hopefully they will do a full tour after, and come to Ottawa
    this time.

    Pierre, you live in quebec? I am from Ottawa, Mike.

    Listened to QR's, Operation Mindcrime this weekend, man this album is
    good. Did any of the guys in DT ever comment on this album??? Let me
    know.

    I agree, Jan-Michael, we need at least 2 new albums before Metropolis
    part 3...cause.... I dont think that the struggle between the children
    as ended...

    Hey check out the section, Fans, Dt tattoos, check the guy from Ottawa,
    I listen to him on CHUO (Ottawa University radio) every tuesday, he
    hosts a prog show, pretty good show.

    Salut

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    Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 17:44:00 EDT
    From: Kgahjah1@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: RIP
    Message-ID: <105.30ca5b6b.2c1f9420@aol.com>

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    hey, that abba bit is mine. come up w/ your own lame tag line.
    jacko
    i don't even care if it's a remake of the brady kid's greatest hits.

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    Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:00:25 +1000
    From: "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: RE: DT new album, Derek, Angra, disappointing cds
    Message-ID: <OPEJJAPFDGDMCLAHLLIMGEJBCPAA.ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>

    > > -Pain of Salvation: Remedy Lane (before you start flaming: I dig The
    > > Perfect Element)
    >
    > Well, I really can't agree with that. For me, RL is probably
    > their best album, while I think TPE is probably their weakest
    > (although it's still a very good album).

    It seems that PoS fans can never agree with each other on what the best
    album is :P For me, it's TPE. The title track is a killer!

    Niall

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    Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 23:00:13 -0400
    From: Stan Tyszka <soculese@bellatlantic.net>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: DT ticket for sale
    Message-ID: <D1061E2F-A06F-11D7-A045-000393C6BDE2@bellatlantic.net>

    > Well,

    It seems like I will have a spare ticket for the FW/QR/DT concert on
    Thursday July 10, 2003 at the PNC Bank Arts Center in Holmdel, NJ. My
    buddy bailed on me. Good seat too. It is in Section 101 Row W Seat 48.

    Anyone wanna sit next to a fellow jammer? I refuse to put it on eBay
    and only want to charge what I have been charged. It was 104.00 for 2
    tickets so 52.00 will be the price. Anyone interested?

    Stan

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    Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:15:38 +1000
    From: Niall Connaughton <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: RE: DT ticket for sale
    Message-ID: <OPEJJAPFDGDMCLAHLLIMCEJECPAA.ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>

    Me!

    But you have to pay for shipping (of me) to the venue :P

    Niall

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of
    > Stan Tyszka
    > Sent: Tuesday, 17 June 2003 1:05 PM
    > To: Multiple recipients of list
    > Subject: DT ticket for sale
    >
    >
    > > Well,
    >
    > It seems like I will have a spare ticket for the FW/QR/DT concert on
    > Thursday July 10, 2003 at the PNC Bank Arts Center in Holmdel, NJ. My
    > buddy bailed on me. Good seat too. It is in Section 101 Row W Seat 48.
    >
    > Anyone wanna sit next to a fellow jammer? I refuse to put it on eBay
    > and only want to charge what I have been charged. It was 104.00 for 2
    > tickets so 52.00 will be the price. Anyone interested?
    >
    >
    > Stan
    >
    >

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    Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 23:44:26 -0700
    From: "TREVOR HOIT" <trevorhoit@attbi.com>
    To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: presale password
    Message-ID: <000801c3349b$e5760c80$f7a2eb0c@attbi.com>

    Anyone know the presale password for the Seattle show?
    Thanks
    trevor
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