YTSEJAM Digest 6686
Today's Topics:
1) RE: contest
by "Ilia" <painlessscream@yahoo.com>
2) Re: contest
by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
3) Re: contest
by Ryan P Skadberg <skadz@dreamt.org>
4) Re: contest
by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
5) Re: contest
by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
6) RE: contest
by Niall Connaughton <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
7) Re: contest
by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
8) Re: contest
by Antony Gelberg <antony@antgel.co.uk>
9) Re: as i am
by "Rob P" <ytsejam2002@hotmail.com>
10) "As I Am" on WREKage.org / www.WREK.org
by "Paul W. Cashman" <pellaz@comcast.net>
11) RE: contest
by Olli Heikkinen <-olli-@luukku.com>
12) Re: as i am
by "Rob P" <ytsejam2002@hotmail.com>
13) If anybody DOES know... at last !
by "Stephen Gervois" <stephen.gervois@free.fr>
14) Re: If anybody DOES know... at last !
by Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
15) Re: contest
by "Cassiano P. Barbosa" <cassi.b@uol.com.br>
16) Re: contest
by Antony Gelberg <antony@antgel.co.uk>
17) Re: contest
by "Cassiano P. Barbosa" <cassi.b@uol.com.br>
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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 15:44:58 -0400
From: "Ilia" <painlessscream@yahoo.com>
To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: RE: contest
Message-ID: <LJEJLFCHDEEHAGCHOFPHGEIPCAAA.painlessscream@yahoo.com>
> Hey, did anyone on the jam participate in trying to recreate S.O.C for the
contest?
> I personally didn't even try to bother :)
> I'd like to hear the works that people tried to toss together....
I went so far as recreate the click-track, on Finale... but I didn't have
the time or patience to get my (former) lazy-ass bandmates to learn/record
it before the deadline. You can have the clicktrack if you want it :-P
Ilia
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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:08:14 -0400
From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca>
To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Subject: Re: contest
Message-ID: <014901c39b33$b912a4b0$9b00a8c0@mizz>
ok, before I say I want it, what's a click track? ;)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ilia" <painlessscream@yahoo.com>
To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 3:32 PM
Subject: RE: contest
> > Hey, did anyone on the jam participate in trying to recreate S.O.C for
the
> contest?
> > I personally didn't even try to bother :)
> > I'd like to hear the works that people tried to toss together....
>
> I went so far as recreate the click-track, on Finale... but I didn't have
> the time or patience to get my (former) lazy-ass bandmates to learn/record
> it before the deadline. You can have the clicktrack if you want it :-P
>
> Ilia
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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:44:36 -0400
From: Ryan P Skadberg <skadz@dreamt.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
Subject: Re: contest
Message-ID: <1067121875.2484.1.camel@codewarrior.stigmata.org>
Not sure if he's on the list any more (and don't feel like checking the
subscriber list), but Brian Wherry did and it's freakin amazing. You
can download it at his site over at http://www.brianwherry.com/
Skadz
On Sat, 2003-10-25 at 14:26, Mike Shetzer wrote:
> Hey, did anyone on the jam participate in trying to recreate S.O.C for the contest?
> I personally didn't even try to bother :)
> I'd like to hear the works that people tried to toss together....
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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:53:21 -0400 From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: contest Message-ID: <01d801c39b4a$ca5418a0$9b00a8c0@mizz>
Awesome! Gonna check it out right now... I wonder if this will spoil the actual song itself (as in, if it's really close to the original).
... hey!! How'd he get Matt Guillory of Mullmuzzler / Dali's Dilemma to play on this??? No fair! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan P Skadberg" <skadz@dreamt.org> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 6:33 PM Subject: Re: contest
> Not sure if he's on the list any more (and don't feel like checking the > subscriber list), but Brian Wherry did and it's freakin amazing. You > can download it at his site over at http://www.brianwherry.com/ > > Skadz > > On Sat, 2003-10-25 at 14:26, Mike Shetzer wrote: > > Hey, did anyone on the jam participate in trying to recreate S.O.C for the contest? > > I personally didn't even try to bother :) > > I'd like to hear the works that people tried to toss together.... > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ryan P Skadberg E: skadz@dreamt.org > Ytsejam Moderator U: http://www.dreamt.org/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > GPG fingerprint = 0B97 F771 E7D2 69B2 FF5C 5693 4E25 7E77 DEF0 CA4B > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >
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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:09:46 -0400 From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: contest Message-ID: <01f601c39b4d$14d694a0$9b00a8c0@mizz>
OH MY LORD... ur right Skadz, he did a freakin kickass job. That just means that the boys made an instrumental that will blow our socks off and THEN SOME!!!!!!!!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan P Skadberg" <skadz@dreamt.org> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 6:33 PM Subject: Re: contest
> Not sure if he's on the list any more (and don't feel like checking the > subscriber list), but Brian Wherry did and it's freakin amazing. You > can download it at his site over at http://www.brianwherry.com/ > > Skadz > > On Sat, 2003-10-25 at 14:26, Mike Shetzer wrote: > > Hey, did anyone on the jam participate in trying to recreate S.O.C for the contest? > > I personally didn't even try to bother :) > > I'd like to hear the works that people tried to toss together.... > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ryan P Skadberg E: skadz@dreamt.org > Ytsejam Moderator U: http://www.dreamt.org/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > GPG fingerprint = 0B97 F771 E7D2 69B2 FF5C 5693 4E25 7E77 DEF0 CA4B > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >
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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:34:17 +1100 From: Niall Connaughton <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: RE: contest Message-ID: <OPEJJAPFDGDMCLAHLLIMKEIBDBAA.ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
What happens if the song isn't as good as the contest entries? :P
Niall
> -----Original Message----- > From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of > Mike Shetzer > Sent: Sunday, 26 October 2003 10:05 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list > Subject: Re: contest > > > OH MY LORD... > ur right Skadz, he did a freakin kickass job. That just means > that the boys > made an instrumental that will blow our socks off and THEN SOME!!!!!!!!
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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 19:57:35 -0400 From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: contest Message-ID: <022501c39b53$c352cc00$9b00a8c0@mizz>
I was hesitant to say that... but I guess it's worth mentioning :) One of two possibilities: The Brian version kicks super ass and DT creates a song in that vein and we're happy. Or the Brian version kicks ass and DT blows us all away putting Brian (no offense) to shame.... either way, we're left with good vibes :D
----- Original Message ----- From: "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 7:34 PM Subject: RE: contest
> What happens if the song isn't as good as the contest entries? :P > > Niall
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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:35:15 +0100 From: Antony Gelberg <antony@antgel.co.uk> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: contest Message-ID: <20031026003515.GC25125@brain.pulsesol.com>
On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 03:33:42PM -0700, Ryan P Skadberg wrote: > Not sure if he's on the list any more (and don't feel like checking the > subscriber list), but Brian Wherry did and it's freakin amazing. You > can download it at his site over at http://www.brianwherry.com/ > > Skadz
Wow. Cool. It's amazing how much influence DT have. The worst thing about the track is that it sounds exactly like a DT-copy prog metal band. Obviously given the nature of the track, that's no real criticism. :) If it wasn't for the contest, I'd say that he should concentrate on developing his sound, but it would be unfair in this case... I'd even like to hear his project when it's finished, and I usually avoid prog metal like the plague.
He's won the competition. If more than one person has produced a track of this quality, then I'm giving up on prog, as it's just too weird...
T
-- Now playing: The Flower Kings - The Truth Will Set You Free
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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 23:29:27 -0400 From: "Rob P" <ytsejam2002@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: as i am Message-ID: <Law15-F49KRr6uJqxIQ0003157b@hotmail.com>
Well after a couple listens it hits me the way the Lie promo single did...not very well. Lie was a mistake at the time and I always thought if it had been Caught in a Web, things might have been different. The blatant Metallica sound is also a problem...mostly because it is somewhere between Load and TBA and not older Metallica. And no Jordan either. Boy this album has me nervous. This was like opening the first gift the night before Christmas and getting socks. Useful but not what I was hoping for.
Oh well. Rob
>From: BillBishmn@aol.com >Reply-To: ytsejam@torchsong.com >To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> >Subject: Re: leaks? >Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:11:11 -0700 (PDT) > >--part1_1de.119d190f.2ccafb64_boundary >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >Originally posted by Mike Portnoy > >First of all, we expected this radio edit to leak any day now as Elektra >had >begun servicing select stations this week... >The full scale radio "impact" will begin next week, so do us a favor and >REQUEST this and wake the rest of the world up!! > >We will likely make the "full length radio version" available for download >next week on DT.NET. > >We are however hoping to keep the rest of the CD underwraps until 11/11 and >hopefully that will be the case as NOBODY has gotten advance CD's... > >Onto the music: >As has been said a million times already, this is AN EDIT! >You cannot judge the entire song (and surely not the entire CD) from this >little 4 and a half minute "taste"....(in fact, almost half the song is >missing >in this version) > >LOOK AT IT LIKE A TRAILER TO A MOVIE!!!! > >Enjoy this taste, but please don't pass judgement on us or the entire CD >until 11/11.... > >MP > >PS - Why is everybody ASSuming I wrote these lyrics? > >PPS - the sound quality on this MP3 is CRAP so please don't judge the sound >of the CD off this either.... > >--part1_1de.119d190f.2ccafb64_boundary >---YTSEJAM FILTER: Rest of message skipped because of attachment
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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 23:48:29 -0400 From: "Paul W. Cashman" <pellaz@comcast.net> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: "As I Am" on WREKage.org / www.WREK.org Message-ID: <3F9B440D.4971@comcast.net>
> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 11:31:08 -0400 > From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca> > To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > Subject: Re: New DT at WREKage.org > Message-ID: <001801c39b0d$03214ce0$9b00a8c0@mizz> > > Paul, do you have the 4 minute edit or is the entire 37 minute song? ;)
It is a 3-track promo single: a shorter radio edit at 4:20 (insert marijuana or Mike Portnoy comment here), and then two longer versions at 7+ min. One of them is tagged as a radio version and one is tagged as the full album version, which made us wonder if the full version wasn't radio-safe. (!) Bob said he'd played the longer "radio" version; I'm time-checking it now off the show archive and it -does- time out at over 7 minutes.
BTW, if the streaming is too hi-quality for anyone's connection, there is an option for a 24 kilobit mono MP3 stream on the WREK-FM website, www.wrek.org. Just select "listen to archive" and then you'll want the 10:30-11pm archive segment from last Friday night. "As I Am" should be right in the middle, at around 10:45 pm. I also wrapped up the show, after 2am, with LTE's "Acid Rain." :)
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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:19:56 +0200 (EET) From: Olli Heikkinen <-olli-@luukku.com> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: contest Message-ID: <1067152796189.-olli-.217419.I0klDuReMqm_WP4WeWwtig@luukku.com>
Of course they'll have to remake the album with a cover of the contest winner! :)
----- Forwarded message from Niall Connaughton <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au> ----
From: Niall Connaughton <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au> Date: Sun Oct 26 02:34:54 EEST 2003 To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: RE: contest
What happens if the song isn't as good as the contest entries? :P
Niall
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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:15:26 -0500 From: "Rob P" <ytsejam2002@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: as i am Message-ID: <Law15-F62BO7NgCY19x000157ea@hotmail.com>
> >LOOK AT IT LIKE A TRAILER TO A MOVIE!!!! > > > >Enjoy this taste, but please don't pass judgement on us or the entire CD > >until 11/11.... > > > >MP
If this was a trailer to a movie, I'd never consider going to see it but rather just say "eh, rental maybe."
>From: "Rob P" <ytsejam2002@hotmail.com> >Reply-To: ytsejam@torchsong.com >To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> >Subject: Re: as i am >Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 20:35:38 -0700 (PDT) > >Well after a couple listens it hits me the way the Lie promo single >did...not very well. Lie was a mistake at the time and I always thought if >it had been Caught in a Web, things might have been different. The blatant >Metallica sound is also a problem...mostly because it is somewhere between >Load and TBA and not older Metallica. And no Jordan either. Boy this >album >has me nervous. This was like opening the first gift the night before >Christmas and getting socks. Useful but not what I was hoping for. > >Oh well. >Rob > > > >From: BillBishmn@aol.com > >Reply-To: ytsejam@torchsong.com > >To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@torchsong.com> > >Subject: Re: leaks? > >Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:11:11 -0700 (PDT) > > > >--part1_1de.119d190f.2ccafb64_boundary > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > >Originally posted by Mike Portnoy > > > >First of all, we expected this radio edit to leak any day now as Elektra > >had > >begun servicing select stations this week... > >The full scale radio "impact" will begin next week, so do us a favor and > >REQUEST this and wake the rest of the world up!! > > > >We will likely make the "full length radio version" available for >download > >next week on DT.NET. > > > >We are however hoping to keep the rest of the CD underwraps until 11/11 >and > >hopefully that will be the case as NOBODY has gotten advance CD's... > > > >Onto the music: > >As has been said a million times already, this is AN EDIT! > >You cannot judge the entire song (and surely not the entire CD) from this > >little 4 and a half minute "taste"....(in fact, almost half the song is > >missing > >in this version) > > > >LOOK AT IT LIKE A TRAILER TO A MOVIE!!!! > > > >Enjoy this taste, but please don't pass judgement on us or the entire CD > >until 11/11.... > > > >MP > > > >PS - Why is everybody ASSuming I wrote these lyrics? > > > >PPS - the sound quality on this MP3 is CRAP so please don't judge the >sound > >of the CD off this either.... > > > >--part1_1de.119d190f.2ccafb64_boundary > >---YTSEJAM FILTER: Rest of message skipped because of attachment > >_________________________________________________________________ >Send instant messages to anyone on your contact list with MSN Messenger >6.0. Try it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com >
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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:14:39 +0100 From: "Stephen Gervois" <stephen.gervois@free.fr> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: If anybody DOES know... at last ! Message-ID: <000b01c39bdc$56a59b30$aa70933e@cyco>
OK so I forgot to post the times that were given in the "Your Majesty" fanzine so here it goes:
TRAIN OF THOUGHT runs at around 68mins
with the following times for each song: As I Am 7:30 This Dying Soul 11:30 Endless Sacrifice 11:30 Honor Thy Father 10:00 Vacant (is this a song about a toilet ?) 3:00 Stream Of Consciousness 11:00 In The Name Of God 13:50
Those times DO NOT look likke a classical metal album, except for maybe a classical metal album written by DT ;) OMG I can't wait for 11/11 ! Let's hope it will shadow Xmas ;)
Voila, ACBLF
>Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:16:13 +0200 >From: "Stephen Gervois" <sgervois@atmel.fr> >To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> >Subject: If anybody DOES know... >Message-ID: <00c801c39863$fec651a0$3cff9f0a@PCxxxx> >> Can anyone tell me if the CD running time is longer than 42 minutes? >Actually, in the "Your Majesty" fanzine (French DT fanclub), Seb had an >interview with MP where he heard about 1mn from each new song ... >Well aparently DT wanted to cut under 60mins for the CD but couldn't ... >I'm at work though... I'll check what exactly was said when I get home. >See ye > ACBLF
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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:47:54 -0500 From: Mike Shetzer <echo26@videotron.ca> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: If anybody DOES know... at last ! Message-ID: <001901c39be0$e6cba070$9b00a8c0@mizz>
Is that on purpose perhaps that all the songs are either on the minute or on the :30 mark?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Gervois" <stephen.gervois@free.fr> To: "Multiple recipients of list" <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 11:23 AM Subject: If anybody DOES know... at last !
> OK so I forgot to post the times that were given in the "Your Majesty" > fanzine so here it goes: > > TRAIN OF THOUGHT runs at around 68mins > > with the following times for each song: > As I Am 7:30 > This Dying Soul 11:30 > Endless Sacrifice 11:30 > Honor Thy Father 10:00 > Vacant (is this a song about a toilet ?) 3:00 > Stream Of Consciousness 11:00 > In The Name Of God 13:50 > > Those times DO NOT look likke a classical metal album, except for maybe a > classical metal album written by DT ;) > OMG I can't wait for 11/11 ! Let's hope it will shadow Xmas ;) > > Voila, > ACBLF > > >Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 08:16:13 +0200 > >From: "Stephen Gervois" <sgervois@atmel.fr> > >To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> > >Subject: If anybody DOES know... > >Message-ID: <00c801c39863$fec651a0$3cff9f0a@PCxxxx> > >> Can anyone tell me if the CD running time is longer than 42 minutes? > >Actually, in the "Your Majesty" fanzine (French DT fanclub), Seb had an > >interview with MP where he heard about 1mn from each new song ... > >Well aparently DT wanted to cut under 60mins for the CD but couldn't ... > >I'm at work though... I'll check what exactly was said when I get home. > >See ye > > ACBLF > >
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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:26:58 -0200 From: "Cassiano P. Barbosa" <cassi.b@uol.com.br> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: contest Message-ID: <002b01c39bee$bf21f020$02000003@y5q0j7>
> He's won the competition. If more than one person has produced a track > of this quality, then I'm giving up on prog, as it's just too
Hear Mark Moore entry and consider doing that. ;)
- cassiano
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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:49:56 +0000 From: Antony Gelberg <antony@antgel.co.uk> To: ytsejam@torchsong.com Subject: Re: contest Message-ID: <20031026184956.GA31595@brain.pulsesol.com>
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 10:18:44AM -0800, Cassiano P. Barbosa wrote: > > He's won the competition. If more than one person has produced a track > > of this quality, then I'm giving up on prog, as it's just too > > Hear Mark Moore entry and consider doing that. ;)
And where might a person hear that?
T
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Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:07:25 -0200 From: "Cassiano P. Barbosa" <cassi.b@uol.com.br> To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com> Subject: Re: contest Message-ID: <003901c39bf4$64f35520$02000003@y5q0j7>
---- Original Message ----- From: "Antony Gelberg" <antony@antgel.co.uk> > > > He's won the competition. If more than one person has produced a track > > > of this quality, then I'm giving up on prog, as it's just too > > > > Hear Mark Moore entry and consider doing that. ;) > > And where might a person hear that?
Here:
http://home.comcast.net/~dtawake/dtawakedtcontest.mp3
I still don't like the drum sound, but this is just a freakin' great epic... The classical session is just mind-blowing. One of the greatest things I've heard this year, seriously... Have fun. :)
-cassiano
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