YTSEJAM digest 6829

From: ytsejam@torchsong.com
Date: Sun Mar 28 2004 - 11:53:48 EST

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 6829

    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: Personal responsibility
     by Steve Chew <schew@interzone.com>
      2) Re: Personal responsibility
     by Antony Gelberg <antony@antgel.co.uk>
      3) Re: Personal responsibility
     by Kgahjah1@aol.com
      4) Toronto Massey Hall 03-25-04
     by Chris Smart <chris_s@sympatico.ca>
      5) Toronto show, some comments...
     by Chris Smart <chris_s@sympatico.ca>
      6) RE: misc
     by "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
      7) RE: Toronto show, some comments...
     by "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>

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    Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 12:57:43 -0500
    From: Steve Chew <schew@interzone.com>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Personal responsibility
    Message-ID: <20040327175742.GC16363@interzone.com>

    jacko wrote:
    >
    >yes, it's a stupid drum stick and i agree. my point is that in todays
    >world normal people are being penalized for morons who do stupid things,
    >get hurt, and then deny any responsibility for their actions. who doesn't
    >know coffee might burn your crotch, eating supersized fast food meals
    >every day might make you a fat ass, or that leaning beyond your reach
    >for a stupid drum stick might cause you to lose your balance and fall.
    >
            I feel the same way jacko. We'd be better off if more people
    would accept responsibility for their own actions instead of trying to
    make others pay for them.

                                    Steve

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    Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 18:46:46 +0000
    From: Antony Gelberg <antony@antgel.co.uk>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Personal responsibility
    Message-ID: <20040327184646.GB1161@brain.pulsesol.com>

    On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 09:47:34AM -0800, Steve Chew wrote:
    > jacko wrote:
    > >
    > >yes, it's a stupid drum stick and i agree. my point is that in todays
    > >world normal people are being penalized for morons who do stupid things,
    > >get hurt, and then deny any responsibility for their actions. who doesn't
    > >know coffee might burn your crotch, eating supersized fast food meals
    > >every day might make you a fat ass, or that leaning beyond your reach
    > >for a stupid drum stick might cause you to lose your balance and fall.
    > >
    > I feel the same way jacko. We'd be better off if more people
    > would accept responsibility for their own actions instead of trying to
    > make others pay for them.

    You mean like how MP is taking responsibility for the action of chucking
    the drum paraphenalia?

    T

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    Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 17:10:15 EST
    From: Kgahjah1@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Re: Personal responsibility
    Message-ID: <99.44d4725e.2d9755c7@aol.com>

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    i guess i looked at this wrong. it is mikes fault.
    i'm sure it's just a matter of time before peter gabriel gets sued for crowd
    surfing (a crowd pleasing part of his shows) because someone hurts their wrist
    trying to tear his shirt off.
    it's a drum stick. why hurt your self diving for it (even if you aren't in
    the balcony) or wrestle your significant other to the ground for a drum stick?
    maybe if mike was throwing out rolex watches or gold bars i could see it.
    jacko

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    Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 17:43:32 -0500
    From: Chris Smart <chris_s@sympatico.ca>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Toronto Massey Hall 03-25-04
    Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20040327174016.029d0154@pop8.sympatico.ca>

    is now available. This is just a test. there is no track/band info in the
    files yet (id3 tags) and yes I know they're not in mp3 format, but .ogg format.

    Anyway, just wondering what you guys think of the recording. I was 16th
    row floor, and using a Sharp MD-MT831, and a pair of mics from Core Sound.

    I added some compression later, but no EQ or any other processing was done.

    http://bumpy.braille.uwo.ca/~chriss/dt.zip

    Let me know what you think. I have the originals still so can take another
    run at cleaning them up if necessary, add ID3 tags, convert to mp3, etc.

    Chris

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    Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 18:25:02 -0500
    From: Chris Smart <chris_s@sympatico.ca>
    To: ytsejam@torchsong.com
    Subject: Toronto show, some comments...
    Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20040327181247.02a066a8@pop8.sympatico.ca>

    First, it was great seeing DT at Massey Hall, a 2,700-seat venue noted for
    it's excellent acoustics.
    The show was great, and the crowd seemed very into it, although I didn't
    hear much singing. (Check out the latest live Rush release for a crowd
    that knows all the words!)

    Instrumentally, I've never heard Petrucci that flawless or just damn
    fast! Very few players seem to get steadily better over the years like he
    does. His tone was fat, warm, and there was decent stereo imaging when he
    switched to his chorusy clean sound.

    Portnoy: Amazing as usual! I know he worships Pearte - anybody know if
    Pearte has commented publicly on Portnoy? Anyway, inspirational drumming
    as always.

    JR: I paid attention to the keyboards after someone here commented they
    didn't care much for his presence and main sounds. Personally, I thought
    his sounds were fine, although he could have been a bit higher in the mix
    to get through JP's massive wall of guitar. I love when he doubles JP's
    solos with a xylophone sound - that's straight out of Frank Zappa! I wish
    they would do more FZ-inspired stuff, maybe cover one of his instrumentals?

    JM: The bass was a bit too forward in the first song, but then burried for
    the rest of the show. Personally, I'd like to hear him more - not to
    mention the poor guy should have some wank time too! The rest get plenty
    of opportunity to show off; how about a bass solo?

    Vocals: James' voice was well, strained. This was probably just from the
    stress of being on tour, but he really was pulling flat a lot, not reaching
    high notes, or avoiding them altogether. Personally, I was focused more on
    the instrumental aspects, and maybe James jus tneeds a few days off to rest.

    Overall, a great show in a great venue!

    Boot of it at:
    http://bumpy.braille.uwo.ca/~chriss/dt.zip

    Chris

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    Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 11:22:07 +1000
    From: "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: RE: misc
    Message-ID: <OPEJJAPFDGDMCLAHLLIMGEDFDEAA.ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of
    > Michael & Pamela Nazer
    > Sent: Sunday, 28 March 2004 12:40 AM
    > To: Multiple recipients of list
    > Subject: Re: misc
    >
    > Just wondering why some people assume that the guy who fell was being
    > stupid. It is very possible that in all the excitment he got pushed from
    > behind. I have read on the MP forum that those railings were very low,
    > below the knee. I was at the Minneapolis show 2 weeks ago and caught a
    > stick, and someone else caught it too and I was trying very hard
    > to pull the
    > stick away from the other person, until I looked and saw I was
    > fighting over
    > the stick with my husband......weird things can happen!

    At which point, you elbow him in the ribs and say firmly but quietly "If you
    know what's good for you... you'll let go" :P

    Niall

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    Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 12:24:57 +1000
    From: "Niall Connaughton" <ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>
    To: <ytsejam@torchsong.com>
    Subject: RE: Toronto show, some comments...
    Message-ID: <OPEJJAPFDGDMCLAHLLIMKEDGDEAA.ytsejam@bigpond.net.au>

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: ytsejam@torchsong.com [mailto:ytsejam@torchsong.com]On Behalf Of
    > Chris Smart
    > Sent: Sunday, 28 March 2004 9:40 AM
    > To: Multiple recipients of list
    > Subject: Toronto show, some comments...
    > Boot of it at:
    > http://bumpy.braille.uwo.ca/~chriss/dt.zip
    >
    > Chris

    Thanks for the boot Chris. I downloaded a plugin for ogg for winamp. I have
    winamp 2.8, but I get nothing trying to play the files... any ideas?

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