Contents:
Re: sports TV/ Another Day (rosenzwe@stu.beloit.edu (Stacie Rosenzweig))
Re: Hello Dream Theater Fans!! (rosenzwe@stu.beloit.edu (Stacie Rosenzweig))
Re: outrage of the day (zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill))
A flame against Re: tab (fwd) ("Jeff Gray" <jgray@ichips.intel.com>)
Re: tab (fwd) (Kelly Johnson <kelly@ENG.Trimble.COM>)
hello (Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>)
Re: DoE ("Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>)
Re: Hello Dream Theater Fans!! ("Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>)
video (Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>)
Re: REQUEST MAILING (drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh))
Re: Galactic Cowboys and Annihilator ("Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>)
RE: REQUEST MAILING ("TIMOTHY LODGE, STUDENT GOVERNMENT PRESIDENT, CCSU" <LODGE_TIM@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU>)
Re: Unsubscribe ("Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>)
supposed Portnoy letter... FAKE!!! (Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>)
Funny little thing I read on NMS (Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>)
T-Shirt update (Jason Hough <jason@jester.cts.com>)
varios from YTSEJAM 368 (Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>)
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Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 18:30:54 +22304916 (CDT)
From: rosenzwe@stu.beloit.edu (Stacie Rosenzweig)
Subject: Re: sports TV/ Another Day
I once heard the introduction (up to but not including the "Hold it now,
etc." part) to Take The Time in the background of a radio ad for a monster
truck show. No kidding -- this was a crappy metal station in Chicago.
Stacie
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Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 18:35:07 +22304916 (CDT)
From: rosenzwe@stu.beloit.edu (Stacie Rosenzweig)
Subject: Re: Hello Dream Theater Fans!!
>
> - MIKE PORTNOY
> DREAM THEATER, DRUMS & PERCUSSION
>
Hmmm... did Mr. Bahr forget to log out?
Not a flame, but in all honesty, this is hard to believe..."You" said this
was an anon server....the info is interesting, but I'm having a really hard
time buying it. The same thing happened on Prodigy (god help me) a long
time ago, when somebody named "Geoff Tate" posted.
Sorry to be such a party-pooper.
Stacie
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Date: Fri, 8 Apr 94 17:01:06 PDT
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
Subject: Re: outrage of the day
On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Younis Youssef Hilal wrote:
> Today's outrage, folks:
> I listened to Pull Me Under with some guy who lives down the floor in my
> dorm. He claims to have done a bit of drumming and thinks Lars Ulrich is
> the best rock drummer around. That's only part of the outrage. After
> the song ended, he turned to me and told me he still thinks Ulrich is
> "hands down" the best drummer out there. I was so surprised, I just said,
> "OK, whatever."
>
> Funny world we live in, ain't it?
>
> Younis Hilal
>
> "If Neil Peart is God, Mike Portnoy must be Jesus or something."
>
If Lars is so great, ask him why he totally wimped out
on the Black album. (because Lars wanted stuff that
was easier to play (what Lars said himself)). Then,
maybye, you could get into a fight with him concerning
whether or not Metallica has sold out. Have some fun
with the little bastard, then let him listen to Under
a Glass Moon or A Fortune in Lies to hear some real
double-bass stuff.
Zach
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Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 17:21:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Jeff Gray" <jgray@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: A flame against Re: tab (fwd)
> I check out your list over my girlfriend's shoulder (yeah, she's the
> subscriber) and see far too many tab postings. Music's not about exact
> notes written down on a piece of paper, it's something that should be
> listened to and appreciated for being its beautiful self.
If Frank Zappa were alive I'd invite him over to your house so he could
pummel you with a metronome and a conductor's baton. Please don't attempt
to define for us what music is or is not about -- even if such a thing
could be done, I somehow suspect you have less than zero authority to do so.
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Date: Fri, 8 Apr 94 18:14:54 PDT
From: Kelly Johnson <kelly@ENG.Trimble.COM>
Subject: Re: tab (fwd)
>
> [Stuff Deleted]
>
> I check out your list over my girlfriend's shoulder (yeah, she's the
> subscriber) and see far too many tab postings. Music's not about exact
> notes written down on a piece of paper, it's something that should be
> listened to and appreciated for being its beautiful self. I am a guitarist,
> but I tire quickly of seeing how so-and-so plays such-and-such a solo. I
> just want to play from the heart. I think John P. would agree with me.
>
>
If I was a good guitarist I would agree, but I'M NOT!
The tabs are helpful to those of us that are average at best.
I WISH I could figure out some of the tough stuff by myself.
I WISH I could improvise and play with feeling.
I WISH I could right good solos.
Unfortunately, I'm not good at any of these. In the mean time
I enjoy learning how to play things from the tabs. Keep 'em
coming!
- Kelly Johnson
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Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 19:10:15 -40962758 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
Subject: hello
Okay, sorry about all that guys, a friend of mine who uses my
internet account for his goddamn MUDs noticed mail from Ytsejam, and
since he likes Dream Theater also, decided to make me the butt of a
"Portnoy Knows We're Here!" prank... that mail did not come from me nor
did I have any idea it was posted. I'll ring his scrawny neck when he
comes home from work today.
For the record: I'm not Mike Portnoy, I don't know him
personally, and I sure the hell don't speak for him, and I'm sorry my
friend decided to pull such a blatant one... as if he didn't even know
our names were at the top of all our messages...
Mike/garion@indirect.com/belar@aol.com/king@citadel.gov.riva
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Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 22:58:58 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>
Subject: Re: DoE
I think it's more technique. The main thing I don't like about Labrie
(I'm not bashing him or anything), is that whenever he get's lost in the
lyrics he just starts screaming (i.e. Killing hand on DOE), If he had a
little more formal training on how to take care of that live, he'd be
quite impressive. Also, did Labrie go to the "Don Dokken School of
Performing," (I'm not knocking on either one's ability to sing), He's
just kind of there when on stage, and never really makes his presence
know during the solos (he just goes in the back and moshes, or takes a
break). I think that if James worked on these two areas, he'd be totally
killer!!! That's just my two cents worth. This is just my opinion, and no
offense is to be taken!!! Later fellow DT fans!!
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According to the circle of fifths, and the pattern of sharps and flats:
If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (i.e,
a,a#,b,c,c#...g#,h,i,j,etc) eventually the key of Z Major would have 4
sharps. Eric Moegling gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu
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On Thu, 7 Apr 1994 svanhooser@aol.com wrote:
> <<<
> > Yeah, he blew that one note really badly, but give the guy a break. He
> sings
> > very difficult material almost every day. I heard him after a two-week
> > vacation and he sounds great (better than any bootleg I've heard) when
> > rested.
>
> No, I'm not bashing Labrie by any stretch of the imagination. He's a
> great singer (if you doubt it, just imagine DT with John Arch as I said b4,
> and you'll learn to love Labrie :) And I can imagine how tough it must be on
> his voice to sing that material day in an day out. Just commenting how bad
> that one song was though. *shudder* :)
> Chris
> >>>
>
> Oops. I guess I sounded a little harsh, but I do think that LaBrie is a very
> good singer. From what I understand, he still hasn't learned to preserve his
> voice from show to show. Is preserving a technique or merely a talent?
>
>
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Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 23:04:57 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>
Subject: Re: Hello Dream Theater Fans!!
This is totally cool!!! Everyone thank Mike for his time to update all of
us!!!
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According to the circle of fifths, and the pattern of sharps and flats:
If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (i.e,
a,a#,b,c,c#...g#,h,i,j,etc) eventually the key of Z Major would have 4
sharps. Eric Moegling gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu
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On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Michael Bahr wrote:
>
> Hello Dream Theater fans! I just wanted to put this note into this news
> board to thank you for staying with us and tell you about what's to come
> with the band.
> I gave a friend a copy of some demos we made for our upcoming album, and
> he told me he was on a network mailing group where everybody talks about
> Dream Theater and is a real fan. I am, well,,, I am really happy to hear
> this, I'm glad we as Dream Theater have attracted some fans, and I want
> to thank you all for listening to us, coming to see us play, and buying
> our tapes!
> Our upcoming album has no title yet. Kevin and I will decide what to call
> it a little later when all the songs are ready for production. We have
> written a lot of music, a LOT of music. We wanted Terry Brown to produce
> for us but he seems to have prior commitments elsewhere. We expect to
> record at the end of the month and have the new tape out for sale near
> the end of May, if time permits.
> I notice a lot of talk about bootlegg collecting here on the list. I wish
> you guys the best of luck. It really means a lot to me that you guys
> would go out of your way to get bootlegg tapes of us. But the rest of the
> band would rather you didn't. I have a huge collection, and I am taping
> most every show we play. One day I will probably release a lot of it to
> collectors. Already I have let a small few of my tapes out to a few
> friends, mostly tapes from earlier tours and before our first album,
> "When Dream & Day Unite".
> Thats all I really have time to write. I assure you this mail is really
> from me, I am using this anonymous server because I don't have time to
> read or answer mail replies, or even log on more than once a month or so.
> As our album gets closer to done I will drop by again. Thank you all, and
> I hope you keep listening.
>
> - MIKE PORTNOY
> DREAM THEATER, DRUMS & PERCUSSION
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 00:35:29 -40962758 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
Subject: video
I just got a Galactic Cowboys video boot (one that a few others
on Ytsejam might have) and I thought I'd mention something for the Dream
Theater fans... during Pump Up The Space Suit, Mike Portnoy of DT runs on
stage and gives Ben Huggins (lead vocals, GC) a huge bearhug, and
proceeds to sing along for the rest of the song... Then, during Dream
Theater's show that night, all of the Cowboys come on stage to sing along
with Take the Time. Great shows!!
For those interested, the GC show in particular (due to some
stroke of oddity, my tape of GC's opener is of lower generation/better
quality than my tape of DT's show!! hehe) was really fantastic. they
played the setlist that most of us got with an energy that was really way
out. I saw DT/GC in Tuscon, AZ; Tempe, AZ (Phoenix), and San Diego, and
the 'Boys got up and pumped in Tempe, but at San Fran they REALLY flew
high above. The song selection also was fantastic.... just wish I also
could have heard Still Life of Peace or Blind on it.
Just for the record, they played:
Kill Floor
Space In Your Face
You Make Me Smile
Circles In The Field
I Do What I Do
I'm Not Amused
About Mrs. Leslie
If I Were A Killer
Pump Up The Space Suit
Sea Of Tranquility
One final question and I'll leave the digest alone... I got the
CD of Space In Your Face, with the secret tracks -21 and 32. I got stuck
with a tape however of GC's first album. Am I missing any secret tracks
and if so, what are they? The tape has ten songs listed and ten on the
actual tape.
Mike/garion@indirect.com/belar@aol.com/king@citadel.gov.riva
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Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 00:58:28 PDT
From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
Subject: Re: REQUEST MAILING
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Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 02:14:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
Subject: Re: Galactic Cowboys and Annihilator
> > They weren't selling. If you hadn't noticed, Geffen pushed them
> > hard. Their first album was in all the special display racks in all the
> > big record stores. Geffen just decided that they were putting too much
> > money into sump'n that they weren't getting a return on.
>
> heh. They must push them hard only in certain spots, then. I never saw
> anything about the Cowboys here in Atlanta, except for the CDs in the bins.
> I was under the impression that Geffen had done for them exactly what its done
> for 9/10 of the bands it signs. Absolutely nothing. They certainly didn't
> push airplay or videoplay. Oh well. Its too bad, really, cause they're one
> hell of a band....
In fairness to Geffen, I have to point out that Atlanta radio really
DOES suck, compared to many middle and large markets in the US. There
are no stations in town who will play new rock that isn't either
'safe' (by established artists, like Yes or Pink Floyd, or relatively
soft, like Screaming Cheetah Wheelies) or classifiable as alternative.
For mainstream new rock and roll, these really are the darkest of
times in Atlanta. Don't believe me? Try 98rock in Tampa, FL. Wow!
-- Paul W. Cashman | Before the leaves have fallen vanyel@crl.com | Before we lock the doors Dream Theater -------> | There must be the third and last dance "Metropolis Pt 1" | ...This one will last forever...------------------------------
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 9:05:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "TIMOTHY LODGE, STUDENT GOVERNMENT PRESIDENT, CCSU" <LODGE_TIM@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU> Subject: RE: REQUEST MAILING
HI THERE. My name is Tim and I am also a huge DT fan and also have been on the list for about 6 months now. Its pretty cool stuff. Anyway alot of us on the net/list trade bootlegs of DT. Check out my stuff and let me know if you want to trade for any of it.
Tim Lodge
***********************April 3,1994********************************* Greetings to netters everywhere! This is my latest listing of boots, imports, and rare music!
New Additions: Dream Theater: Winter Rose (2 Live Shows - Labrie's Old Band!) Guns N Roses: Unwanted Illusions: Unreleased UYI tracks + more! Pistols & Flowers: Band with Drum Machine! Motley Crue ShoutTakes! Outtakes from Shout at the Devil Sessions! This has some unreleased stuff on as well. 4 stars!!! Live at the Roxy! September 24, 1982! Unreleased Stuff 2! Stone Temple Pilots: Temple of Darkness: Promotional CD! Live+unreleased!
Within the Next month or so, I should be acquiring ALOT more stuff including more Metallica, Pantera, Motley Crue, GNR, Biohazard, and Megadeth.
----- --------- ---------- ------- ------- -------- -------- Live and Studio Bootleg Listing March 23, 1994 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- All Selections below are labeled according to the media format. The preferred method of transaction is by trade. I will trade for anything from the bands listed below and also other bands. If a trade cannot be worked out, email for an alternate solution. Please indicate band and title when inquiring about an import or bootleg.
I only trade for TYPE II Hi-Bias Tapes. I only will accept trades that ship using 2 Day Priority Mail via the US Mail. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Email Address: LODGE_TIM@CCSU.CTSTATEU.EDU ____________________________________________________________________________ School Address: | Snail Mail: Tim Lodge | Tim Lodge Central Connecticut State University | 210 Sonstrom Rd. Box 2002, Sam May 110 | Bristol, CT. New Britain, Ct. 06050 | 06010 USA | USA
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Key = ++ = Excellent Sound Quality + = Very Good Sound Quality * = Good Sound Quality - = Average Sound Quality CD=Compact Disc A= Audio Source V= Video Source Vinyl = Original Vinyl Recording --------------------------------------------------------------------------
ARTIST TITLE LENGTH QUALITY TYPE
AEROSMITH LIVIN ON THE EDGE SINGLE 30 ++ CD [DEMO + UNRELEASED] _________________________________________________________________________
ANTHRAX LIVE IN SAN FRANCISCO '91 60 ++ A A ANTHRAX AXE THE ODEON DOWN! 90 ++ CD [LIVE AT THE HAMMERSMITH ODEON] [LONDON, FEB 1989] ANTHRAX BLACK LODGE SINGLE [ALT. VERSIONS + UNRELEASED] 30 ++ CD -------------------------------------------------------------------------- DEF LEPPARD ORIGINAL 1979 DEMOS! 20 A -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***AUDIO*** DREAM THEATER CONCIOUSLY UNREAL 135 ++ CD DREAM THEATER DANCE OF ETERNITY 135 ++ CD DREAM THEATER DREAM THEATER DEMOS 45 ++ A DREAM THEATER DREAMING OUT LOUD 90 ++ A [BUFFALO 5/18/93] DREAM THEATER LIVE IN LONG ISLAND 90 + CD DREAM THEATER LIVE IN BUFFALO 90 ++ A DREAM THEATER LIVE IN WASHINGTON 90 + A DREAM THEATER LIVE IN BALTMIMORE 90 + A DREAM THEATER LIVE IN OSAKA, JAPAN 100 + A A DREAM THEATER LIVE IN SUNDANCE 100 ++ A [INSTRUMENTAL SHOW!] DREAM THEATER LIVE IN FRANKFURT, GERMANY 90 + A DREAM THEATER LIVE IN SAARBURG, GERMANY 90 + A DREAM THEATER LIVE IN TORONTO 7/20/93 90 ++ A
DREAM THEATER SUMMERFEST! 90 ++ A [LIVE MILWAUKEE, WI 6/29/93]
DREAM THEATER THE MAJESTY DEMOS 100 ++ CD 1986,1987,1988 DREAM THEATER THE MAJESTY EXTRAS 60 ++ A DREAM THEATER VOCALIST AUDITIONS 90 + A A DREAM THEATER STATUS SEEKER/AFTERLIFE 30 + A REMIX: TERRY BROWN A MAJESTY LIVE: L'AMOURS 9/25/86 45 ++ A MAJESTY LIVE: SPARKS THEATER 10/25/86 45 ++ A
WINTER ROSE LIVE IN TORONTO 90 + A ***VIDEO*** DREAM THEATER I&W:LIVE IN TOKYO 120 ++ V DREAM THEATER LIVE IN NEW HAVEN, CT 100 ++ V DREAM THEATER LIVE IN SAN FRANCISCO, CA 120 + V DREAM THEATER UNPLUGGED 20 ++ V ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- GREAT WHITE BACK TRACKS 1986-1991 45 ++ CD GREAT WHITE BLUES & BOOGEY TOUR 30 ++ CD GREAT WHITE LIVE AT THE ELECTRIC LADY 90 ++ CD GREAT WHITE LIVE IN MOUNTAIN VIEW CA '91 45 + CD GREAT WHITE RECOVERY: LIVE! 90 ++ CD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- GUNS N ROSES BONZAI! LIVE IN TOKYO '91 180 ++ CD GUNS N ROSES DEMOS/STUDIO OUTTAKES '86 90 + A (1986- RARE) GUNS N ROSES DRAMAS & TRAUMAS: 90 ++ A [LIVE IN INDIANA 1993] GUNS N ROSES GATHERING ON STAGE 180 + A [LIVE 5/93 MILAN ITALY] GUNS N ROSES HARD ROCK HEREOS [LIVE] 90 + CD GUNS N ROSES LIVE JAPANESE EP! 1989 90 ++ A GUNS N ROSES LIVE AT CASTLE DONNINGTON '88 60 ++ A GUNS N ROSES LIVE IN IRVINE, CA '88 60 + A GUNS N ROSES LIVE AT THE RITZ '87 45 ++ CD GUNS N ROSES PISTOLS & FLOWERS 90 ++/+ A GUNS N ROSES SILVER BULLET (LIVE & DEMOS) 100 ++ CD GUNS N ROSES ROCK IN RIO '91 100 ++ CD GUNS N ROSES UNPLUGGED '87 '93 90 ++/+ CD GUNS N ROSES UNWANTED ILLUSIONS 90 ++/+ A ***VIDEO*** GUNS N ROSES LIVE AT THE ROXY! 1-18-86 *+ V ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- METALLICA CLIFF'S LAST STAND '86 90 + A METALLICA GARAGE COMPLETE 90 ++ CD (NO LIFE TILL LEATHER,ETC) METALLICA GARAGE DAYS RE-REVISITED 60 ++ CD METALLICA THE SINGLES DEMOS/LIVE/BSIDES 120 ++ CD METALLICA LIVE IN GOTTENBURG, SWEDEN 100 ++ A METALLICA LIVE IN NUREMBURG, GERMANY 45 + A METALLICA METAL MASTERS - WINNIPEG '86 90 ++ A METALLICA "ONE" JAPANESE IMPORT SINGLE 60 ++ CD METALLICA THE MAN IS DEAD LIVE '83 AND '84 90 + CD METALLICA TEXAS '89 180 + CD METALLICA THE GOOD, THE BAD, & THE LIVE 90 ++ A ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- MOTLEY CRUE HOOLIGAN'S HOLIDAY CD-MAXI 20 ++ CD [2 VERSIONS + 1 UNRELEASED] MOTLEY CRUE LIVE AT CASTLE DONNINGTON '84 75 + A MOTLEY CRUE LIVE AT M.S.G. '87 90 + A MOTLEY CRYE LIVE AT THE ROXY 9/24/82! 90 ++/+ A MOTLEY CRUE MOTLEY CRUE: JAPANESE IMPORT 90 ++ CD [NEW ALBUM + 1 BONUS TRACK] MOTLEY CRUE RAW TRACKS I 60 ++ CD [2 LEATHUR MIXES+LIVE+REMIX] MOTLEY CRUE SHOUTAKES! + 5 LIVE! [STUDIO OUTTAKES FROM S.A.T.D.] 90 ++ A MOTLEY CRUE TOO FAST FOR LOVE 45 ++ A [!!ORIGINAL LEATHUR RELEASE!] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- NINE INCH NAILS LIVE AT THE CABASET METRO 50 + A NINE INCH NAILS LIVE AT THE CA THEATRE 50 + A ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- PANTERA VULGAR DISPLAY OF POWER METAL 100 ++ CD PANTERA [RARE LP + LIVE + UNRELEASED] PANTERA POWER METAL 60 ++ Vinyl PANTERA I AM THE NIGHT 60 ++ Vinyl PANTERA METAL MAGIC 60 ++ Vinyl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- PEARL JAM WORLDWIDE! 5 UNRELEASED+LIVE 90 ++ A ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- PRIMUS MADHOUSE: HOLLAND 1993 90 ++ A ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- QUEENSRYCHE DISEASE IS RAMPANT 90 A QUEENSRYCHE OPERATION 90 A QUEENSRYCHE RAGE FOR ORDER! DEMOS!!!!! 45 A QUEENSRYCHE RYCHE & ROLL 90 A ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- SCORPIONS STILL LOVING YOU 75 ++ CD [UNRELESED+LIVE+REMIXES] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stone Temple LOVE IN THE GARDEN 75 +/++ CD Pilots [2 LIVE SHOWS +1 UNRELEASED] Stone Temple Temple of Darkness (Promo) 90 ++ CD Pilots (Live + 5 unreleased) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- WHITE ZOMBIE LIVE 90 ++ CD
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Date: Wed, 30 Mar 1994 22:30:32 -0600 (CST) From: "Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu> Subject: Re: Unsubscribe
LOSER ALERT!!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------- According to the circle of fifths, and the pattern of sharps and flats: If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (i.e, a,a#,b,c,c#...g#,h,i,j,etc) eventually the key of Z Major would have 4 sharps. Eric Moegling gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
On Mon, 28 Mar 1994, Matthew P Jennings wrote:
> > Unsubscribe mpj@christa.unh.edu >
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Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 10:52:12 -0500 (EDT) From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> Subject: supposed Portnoy letter... FAKE!!!
I just have to tell everyone that this letter is absolutly, 100% completly FAKE!!! I find many things difficult to believe in here, and after talking to both Mike Bahr, and someone close to the band about this letter, first, someone has gotten into Mike's account, and I guess evedently saw that he likes DT, and saw there was some info from a few weeks ago about a new CD possible by the end of the month, so made up this story... I also talked to someone close to the band, and none of this stuff said could POSSIBLE be true... Just from the wording and everything... Let me explain some of the things that I know from this person's response, becuase, unfortunatly, some of this is actually believable, which might make you thing that it is real:
> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 21:30:33 -40962758 (MST) > From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
Well, first, as I said, Mike told me that his account has been used by someone else... That really is all that is needed to be said, but let me continue...
> I gave a friend a copy of some demos we made for our upcoming album,
First, would any of you possible think that if in fact, he did give these demos to someone, that he would ANNOUNCE it here in a public place... If these demos got out... would you actually think that it was given out by a member of the band... I mean, there would be nothing gained by something like this...
> this, I'm glad we as Dream Theater have attracted some fans, and I want > to thank you all for listening to us, coming to see us play, and buying > our tapes!
The person on my side tells me that Mike NEVER refers to recordings as tapes... he resorts back to the old days of music, and calls them ALBUMS.
> Our upcoming album has no title yet. Kevin and I will decide what to call > it a little later when all the songs are ready for production.
Again, DT does everything together... Just look at I&W where just about every songs has IMAGES: Dream Theater... This is not the kind of diecision that they make with 2 people...
> for us but he seems to have prior commitments elsewhere. We expect to > record at the end of the month and have the new tape out for sale near > the end of May, if time permits.
Recording, editing, mastering, and PRESSING thousands of copies in how long is that... A MONTH!!! Nope... sorry, but it just isn't going to happen.
> I notice a lot of talk about bootlegg collecting here on the list. I wish > you guys the best of luck. It really means a lot to me that you guys > would go out of your way to get bootlegg tapes of us.
If, and I mean if he did not mind bootlegging, would it really be PRACTICAL to say something like this, in a public forum... The real problem is that it _sounds_ believable... him saying that "means a lot to me that you go out of the way" I first read that, and though, possibly, but no... he couldn't say it in a PUBLIC place like this...
> band would rather you didn't. I have a huge collection, and I am taping > most every show we play. One day I will probably release a lot of it to > collectors. Already I have let a small few of my tapes out to a few > friends, mostly tapes from earlier tours and before our first album, > "When Dream & Day Unite".
Ok... if they record the shows, would they REALLY say it... isn't that just calling for someone to break into where they are stored? I mean, from reading on NMS about how a good portion of the soundboard bootlegs are produced, they are from people breaking into their storage location and stealing them. Would he really "invite" people in to steal these tapes...
> Thats all I really have time to write. I assure you this mail is really > from me, I am using this anonymous server because I don't have time to > read or answer mail replies, or even log on more than once a month or so. > As our album gets closer to done I will drop by again. Thank you all, and > I hope you keep listening. >
Here is what I found most confusing... How would it possible be anonymous, since it is coming through a listserv that PRINTS names at the top of the letter. Also, again, after talking to the person that I know... Mike doesn't use computers, and woundn't even know what the hell and "anonymous server" is.
> - MIKE PORTNOY > DREAM THEATER, DRUMS & PERCUSSION
I am sorry to say, but it looks like someone has dropped into our little party of Dream Theater information, and tried to get our hopes up. I really do hope that whoever wrote this letter gets caught... I mean, when I first read it, I actually found somethings believable, but the further that I read in... the stranger that some things said... Perhapse someone just had a little too much April Fools jokes from the NMS April Fools issue... :)
Anyway, sorry to spoil the fun...
-- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | This world is spinning around me | | This world is spinning without me | | Every day sends future to past | | Every breath leaves me one less to my last | | Dream Theater Pull Me Under Images and Words | | Michael Burstin Brandeis University | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Let's Go Pens Let's Go Pens Lets Go Pens Let's Go Pens | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
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Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 12:28:31 -0500 (EDT) From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> Subject: Funny little thing I read on NMS
Just thought that I'd post a little something that I found on NMS that you would appreciate... There has been something going on on alt.music.rush that was brought over to NMS comparing Peart to Bonham. Anyway, here is part of what someone had to say about the issue...
> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 13:19:30 -0700 (PDT) > From: Greg Scot Foster <taliesin@teleport.com>
[Greg... are you on YTSEJAM???]
> Subject: Peart vs. Bonham??? > [stuff about Peart v. Bonham deleted]
> can't.. but I still like Led Zeppelin. Why not compare Neil to Bill > Bruford.. a drummer WORTHY of a comparison with Neil??? And (sorry about > mentioning DT) Dream Theater's drummer is the tightest drummer i've ever > heard..i don't think he's human though, so it's not a fair > comparison..
I don;t know... I though it was kinda funny :)
-- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | This world is spinning around me | | This world is spinning without me | | Every day sends future to past | | Every breath leaves me one less to my last | | Dream Theater Pull Me Under Images and Words | | Michael Burstin Brandeis University | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Let's Go Pens Let's Go Pens Lets Go Pens Let's Go Pens | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
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Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 02:43:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Hough <jason@jester.cts.com> Subject: T-Shirt update
Hello again everyone. Sorry, once again, for teh delays on getting the t-shirts made and everything.
I think we're looking at about three more weeks before they are ready to go. I know that some of you will be leaving for summer soon, and will have a different address at that point, etc.
SO: Go ahead and send me your check/cash/whatever now, and I will get the shirts made as soon as the majority of the orders are in.
THE PRICE: 13$ with no donation to get shirts for the band, per shirt 15$ with donation to get shirts for the band, per shirt 20$ for outside the USA, per shirt
PLEASE SPECIFY: The size, and color (ash or white).
SEND TO:
Jason Hough 4568 Mayapan Dr. La Mesa, CA 91941-7146
make checks payable to Jason Hough.
*************** N O T E *************
DO NOT ASSUME THAT BECAUSE YOU SENT ME YOUR ORDER IN EMAIL I WILL HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION. SEND IT IN THE LETTER AS WELL!!!
That about does it. If you have any questions please email me directly.
-----------------------------) Jason Hough - jason@jester.cts.com Nextmail is fine "I'm ashes on the water now, somewhere far away..." -Marillion (-----------------------------
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Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 12:56:02 -0500 (EDT) From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> Subject: varios from YTSEJAM 368
Subject One: Compilation Tape
> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 16:20:47 -0400 (EDT) > From: William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU> > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 365 > > > Moon Bubbles, Another Day, Another Hand, Killing Hand: Home Sweet Home > > all lead from one right into the next > > Another hand/The Killing Hand ought to come from LatM. That's the best > performance of them I've heard by far.
Well, first of all, HSH is a very good show also, but the reason that I said HSH is becuase it actually HAS Moon Bubbles. MB leads right into the AD/AH/KH combination, so it would be difficult to make it sound like they are from the same show.
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Subject Two: Dream Out Loud
> > Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 22:43:12 -0500 (CDT) > From: "Gary G. Moegling" <gmoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu> > Subject: RE: Dream Out Loud > > Same here, I have the complete Pup/TTT thing, but LTL just cuts out. Is > it possible to get a copy of the full show??? >
Well, it is... sorta. I have a copy of the radio broadcast, which is the entire show. There are also others here on YJ that have it...
>> Hmm.. thats weird because I have the Dream Out Loud CD, and I can`t hear any > > radio static on my copy,
Listen to it right around the Wait For Sleep/ Surrounded medley... If it isn't static, then it is something else, but there is definatly some problems with the recording.
> > heard (like Malmsteen`s dreadful Trial By Fire)... also I seem to have a > > complete version of Take The Time, including the Pup intro.. *shrug*.. I am > > however missing the last couple of minutes of Learning To Live.. it`s sort > > of stops before the wait for sleep melody bit I think.... > >
Yeah... mine has Pup, but listen to the long instrumental portion in the middle of TTT. It is a little more subtle then the eMpTyV cut, but there is a cut. Also, with LtL, they end the song in the middle, in yet another instrumetnal portion...
> ------------------------------ > Subject Three: Compilation tape, once more.
> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 20:44:34 -0700 (PDT) > From: Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu> > Subject: Re: compilation tapes > > The selection you have here looks pretty good. What I'm also interested > in, though, are the tracks off the "Majesty demo(s)" that are so damn > hard to get hold of. If you happen to have those on you, maybe you could > consider replacing the I&W tracks with some of the demo tracks. I can't > speak for everyone on the list, but I think a lot of people would also be > interested in getting hold of a copy of those. > Well, I considered it, but I really want to get all of the LaBrie stuff, and skip Collins and Dominicci... including that would be too much... The Majesty Demos are just about a full side of a tape...
> On a more general note, if you get YTSEJAM in digest format, how is it > possible to reply to one piece of mail without having to delete all > the other mailings? > I do have to delete all mail in between the letters that I quote... It's not too difficult on a Unix system with Emacs...
-- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | This world is spinning around me | | This world is spinning without me | | Every day sends future to past | | Every breath leaves me one less to my last | | Dream Theater Pull Me Under Images and Words | | Michael Burstin Brandeis University | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Let's Go Pens Let's Go Pens Lets Go Pens Let's Go Pens | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
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