YTSEJAM digest 488

From: ytsejam@arastar.com
Date: Tue Aug 16 1994 - 08:18:46 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 488

    Topics covered in this issue include:

      1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 484
            by "Jason K. Schechner" <jks2x@fermi.clas.virginia.edu>
      2) Space Dye Vest???
            by Peter Zondag <pzondag@vsl.ist.ucf.edu>
      3) LIE on the Radio!!
            by JasonS1@aol.com
      4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 486
            by Peter Zondag <pzondag@vsl.ist.ucf.edu>
      5) TTT/Pup
            by RUSSYUNCKER@delphi.com
      6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 486
            by kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
      7) Re: Petrucci at the clinic...
            by M.J.Thomas-SE2@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk
      8) Petrucci(s)?
            by "Jason K. Schechner" <jks2x@fermi.clas.virginia.edu>
      9) Re: Petrucci at the clinic...
            by
     10) SHOCKWAVE Correction
            by kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)

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    Topic No. 1

    Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 17:42:17 -0400
    From: "Jason K. Schechner" <jks2x@fermi.clas.virginia.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 484
    Message-ID: <199408152142.RAA66750@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU>

    On Aug 12, 18:32, Jens Johansson wrote:
    > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 484

    [snip]
    >
    > OK, I've had just about enough of the rumours and counter-rumours
    > emanating from the person that posts from buffalo@panix.com.
    >
    > 1) Kevin has left DT. (I was as mystified as anyone.)
    >
    > 2) I may replace him. I liked DT a lot before this happened, am familiar
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
            I don't know about the rest of you, but this line gave me a
    shiver. I know they're all just people like the rest of us peons
    *grin* but it's still strange to read Jens (I figure that, like
    most e-mailing lists, this one is casual enough to be on a first-name
    basis. Isn't the 'net great! :-)) say that. Normally things like
    band-member replacements are totally over the heads of the fans. Like
    when Metallica picked Jason Newstead in '86 there was an announcement
    of auditions, then an announcement that they'd chosen Jason. To see
    "I may replace him" from the guy who I hope does, makes me feel a bit
    more in the process, so to speak. I know that sounds strange, but
    it's a hard thing to express. Anyone else agree?

    > with the material, and have very similar influences. I haven't met with
    > the band yet as they're all on vacation. [It's not really a decision for
    > management to make in their absence.] Will meet/play with on Tuesday here
    > in NYC. Hopefully the personal/musical chemistry works out between
    > everybody. I did meet with James LaBrie briefly, and Kevin, strangely enough.

            Best of luck tomorrow! I'm pulling for ya. Have them call
    me if you need a reference! *grin*
            BTW: For those of us not so lucky, do you think you could
    share some personal observations? If you think it would be in bad
    taste, I fully understand, though.

    > 4) Lots of mail here lately. Haven't been able to reply to almost any of
    > it, bear with me, I've saved it offline and will try to get to it later.
    > Thanks for all the encouragement! :) I'll keep reading ytsejam and a.m.d-t
    > periodically in the days ahead in any event.

            As a fan and a musician, thank you for caring. So many
    musicians don't, it's a nice change to find some that do. BTW: Let's
    get the rest of DT on e-mail! :-)

    > 5) More details later (maybe).

            I'll be eagerly awaiting them. While you're at it, if you
    have any info on other current projects I'm sure we'd love to hear
    about it. I know I would!

    > Jens.
    >
    >
    > -- End of excerpt from Jens Johansson <jens@panix.com>

            Now, those of you who are worried about Jens stepping in for
    Kevin, don't. Just go out and buy any of Yngwie Malmsteen's older
    albums and prepare to be amazed. There is no loss of talent here. As
    a keyboardist myself I think that Jens and Kevin are two of the best
    (if not the best) I've ever heard.
            For those of you complaining - shut up already! Kevin is
    leaving. Whining won't help anything, all it'll do is piss off a lot
    of the readers of this list and maybe even cause them to unsubscribe.
    Like your mommy (should have) told you: If you have nothing
    constructive to say, then don't say anything at all. :-) If you want
    to talk about other keyboardists you think would fit well into the
    band, then by all means - bring them up. Personally, I can think of
    no one more suited than Jens, but that's just my opinion.
            Lastly, I would like to add another "Don't flood Jens' e-mail
    mailbox" message here. I talked to Dave Barry a couple months ago
    when he came here to speak at the University of Virginia and he said
    that one thing he doesn't like about e-mail is that people send him
    things that way that they would _never_ send via regular mail. Think
    of it this way: If you wouldn't send it snail-mail, don't send it
    e-mail.
            Ok, 'nuff for now. I still need to recover frmo this past
    weekend. I won't get the mud out of my belongings for months. Then
    again, what would Woodstock be without mud. :-)

    -Jason

    PS: To whoever has the t-shirt checks: Please cash/deposit mine now.
    I would like to close that account and I can't do that with a check
    still outstanding. Thanks.

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    Topic No. 2

    Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 22:30:19 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Peter Zondag <pzondag@vsl.ist.ucf.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Space Dye Vest???
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9408140922.A9033-0100000@tanline.vsl.ist.ucf.edu>

    Am I correct in my assumption that Space Dye Vest is an instrumental
    piece? I noticed that no lyrics were posted for it. Were the lyrics
    forgotten, or was it ommitted because it has none?

    Trevor LaBonte

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    Topic No. 3

    Date: Mon, 15 Aug 94 22:28:08 EDT
    From: JasonS1@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: LIE on the Radio!!
    Message-ID: <9408152228.tn00557@aol.com>

    They just played 'LIE' on the radio here. They even admitted that they
    weren't supposed to be doing it!! They featured it on something called
    'Smash or Trash', which is a deal where you call in and vote on if the song
    is a smash or if it should be trashed.

    The song was a 'smash' by a 9 to 1 vote. It sounded awesome on the radio.
     Can't wait to hear more. I called the station and after voting I asked them
    if they knew about Kevin leaving and they already did somehow. They didn't
    even know who was producing the album or what it was called though. Kinda
    weird.

    Later!

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    Topic No. 4

    Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 22:52:22 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Peter Zondag <pzondag@vsl.ist.ucf.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 486
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9408152219.B14068-0100000@tanline.vsl.ist.ucf.edu>

      On the L.A. radio show (thanks, Mike Burstin and Jonathan Larkowski!)
    Mike Portnoy said that 13 tracks were recorded for _Awake_, and 11 of
    those were actually included on the album. He also made the inference
    that the remaining two pieces would possibly appear as B-sides later on.
    Are those two songs "To Live Forever" and "Eve", or are they completely
    new songs? "Forever" is definitely my favorite song, and "Eve" is right up
    there as well, and I would really enjoy a studio version of these tunes,
    as James blows it on all three live versions that I have, and the sound
    quality is not great.

    Trevor LaBonte
    Orlando, Florida

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    Topic No. 5

    Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 00:06:40 -0400 (EDT)
    From: RUSSYUNCKER@delphi.com
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: TTT/Pup
    Message-ID: <01HFYGQTAEW295P6BC@delphi.com>

    > 1) What key signature is Take the Time in?
    >
     
    This may be debatable, as it modulates all over the place, but
    IMHO, it seems to center around C#m (4 sharps).
     
    It sounds pretty cool when matched with "Pup" in F# (at least
    that's what I think it's in...)
     
    Also, does anyone know the keyboard chords KM plays after that
    little melody line in "Pup"?
     
    Russ
     
    ------------------------------------------
    "You know how that rabbit feels,
      going under your spinning wheels." NP
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    Topic No. 6

    Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 08:39:11 +0800
    From: kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
    To: ytsejam
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 486
    Message-ID: <9408161539.AA08481@anthor.arastar.com>

    Forward from GARION@BUD.INDIRECT.COM follows.

    > On the L.A. radio show (thanks, Mike Burstin and Jonathan Larkowski!)
    > Mike Portnoy said that 13 tracks were recorded for _Awake_, and 11 of
    > those were actually included on the album. He also made the inference
    > that the remaining two pieces would possibly appear as B-sides later on.
    > Are those two songs "To Live Forever" and "Eve", or are they completely
    > new songs? "Forever" is definitely my favorite song, and "Eve" is right up
    > there as well, and I would really enjoy a studio version of these tunes,
    > as James blows it on all three live versions that I have, and the sound
    > quality is not great.

            Alas, "To Live Forever", "Eve", and "A Change of Season" have
    nothing to do with DT's new album. Mike mentioned in an interview that
    they had piles of material written, and they wanted to go with the new
    stuff. Have you heard the fantastic studio acoustic "Forever"? It will
    definitely be in there when I make a Dream Theater montage... though in
    all honesty, Mike Burstin could make a better one.

            Speaking of which, ALL THOSE WHO ORDERED RUSH VIDEO MONTAGES!!
     
            I have received more orders then I could ever have hoped for, and
    I'm starting to wonder where all you guys are coming from! :) I'm
    constantly making tapes and shipping them out and yet I still fall
    further and further behind, and the 50 tape limit has already been
    reached and passed. All those of you whose orders I received postmarked
    before tomorrow, August 16th, I will accept at $6.00 per order, even
    though I'm expecting it to thus apply to the first 75 or so tapes. But I
    found out I was running VERY close to cost on the $6.00 per order, and in
    order to be able to send all the tapes faster (priority mail) and getall
    the orders done on time, the current price will be $8.00.

            To those of you who have already sent me checks! I don't cash
    them until I go to copy YOUR tape, so if it's cleared your account, I've
    already made and/or sent and/or am waiting to send your tape. If it has
    NOT cleared, I havent gotten to it yet and will do so ASAP, so please be
    patient! Sorry for falling behind, but "I'm fighting the weight of the
    world, no one can save me this time..." hehe It's just mayhem here folks.
    I throw in a tape as I'm going to work and to bed, and usually get about
    2 or 3 done when I'm just home doing my thing, so at the rate of 5 a day
    I will have cleared my current queue in a week, just in time for a week
    worth of orders to come in the mail! :)

            If you haven't ordered yet, as I said earlier this week, delaying
    won't lose you anything at this point, and you may have less of a wait
    between the time you send your check and the time you get your tape. I'll
    follow this up with a general informative posting about the Rush Video
    Monatage for all Ytsejammers who missed it the 1st time.

            THANK YOU ALL!!! For showing interst in this effort of mine, and
    I hope the result will be well-earned reward for you.

    Mike Bahr, Feel The Rush Music
    garion@indirect.com

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    Topic No. 7

    Date: Tue, 16 Aug 94 17:15:50 BST
    From: M.J.Thomas-SE2@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: Petrucci at the clinic...
    Message-ID: <16288.9408161615@mother.cs.bham.ac.uk>

    It really is a damn shame. I really wanted to meet Kevin as well. Now I guess I'll have
    to wait till he starts a solo project, and brings it to the UK (3 years time if I'm
    lucky?!:) Well, good luck to Jens, here's hoping todays jam went well for all involved.

    What with the "Petrucci at clinic..." debate that was raging last week, I've been
    wondering just why I like DT so much. I've come to the conclusion that it's NOT that
    they're god-like musicians. In my oppinion, they aren't. There's no denying that they're
    very competent musicians that know their instruments well, but I think there are those
    that are equally competent that aren't so well known, some probably not even know at all
    to the punters like you and me. For me, the real thrill of DT is in the writing. I can
    believe that Petrucci (and some of the others) are not that good at improvising, but
    they can certainly write stuff that blends extrememly well and flows throughout, and they
    use what skills they have to write licks and runs that they can play to perfection.

    Since it's the pieces themselves that do it for me, and not so much the performances,
    I'll be interested to see what effect the new keyboardist has on procedings.

    Matt.

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    Topic No. 8

    Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 15:16:37 -0400
    From: "Jason K. Schechner" <jks2x@fermi.clas.virginia.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Petrucci(s)?
    Message-ID: <199408161916.PAA42063@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU>

            This is going to be a very strange question, but my girlfiend
    was reading over my shoulder just now and when she saw the name
    "Petrucci" her first thought was not of DT but of another band. (Don't
    worry, I've introduced her to DT, but she doesn't know them by name
    yet.) Anyway, she's a big 80's music buff and her first thought was of
    the drummer from the band Vixen: Roxy Petrucci. Anyone know if
    there's a relation? Karin is dying to know, and I think it'd be
    pretty funny if there were.

    -Jason

    PS: I just got smacked for that last line. :-)

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    Topic No. 9

    Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 22:32:25 +0200 (MET DST)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: Petrucci at the clinic...
    Message-ID: <199408162032.AA06098@abacus.hgs.se>

    That's Bull...

    What do you mean by a good musician anyway !?

    And I'm 100% certain that Petrucci is a good improviser too.

    A great lot of those who join those clinics are there just to trade licks
    and jam together (IMPROVISING!).

    So thats just bull.

    -- 
       
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      I                         Joggs Boggs                                  I
      I                                                                      I
      I              'Balls and chunk is where it's at'                      I
      I                                                                      I
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    Topic No. 10

    Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 18:37:34 +0800 From: kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb) To: ytsejam Subject: SHOCKWAVE Correction Message-ID: <9408170137.AA09491@anthor.arastar.com>

    Forward from ALFREDO.CAPPELLO@GALACTICA.GALACTICA.IT!GALACTIC follows.

    We're not looking only for Death or Doom bands, but all other styles are welcome. Especially progressive, thrash, crossover bands... We don't want: Pop, Glam, AOR stuff... bye ALF ---- alfredo.cappello@galactica.it

    * Q-Blue 1.0 *

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