YTSEJAM digest 492

From: ytsejam@arastar.com
Date: Sat Aug 20 1994 - 15:30:29 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 492

    Topics covered in this issue include:

      1) Jens :)
            by csimmns@whale.st.usm.edu (Christopher Carrol Simmons)
      2) Keyboard situation
            by "Alan J. Mallery" <ajmaller@ouray.Denver.Colorado.EDU>
      3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 491
            by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
      4) Japanese version of Awake?
            by hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
      5) Re:
            by mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
      6) Awake release
            by mike.masi@chowda.com
      7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 491
            by khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu
      8) Re: Keyboard situation
            by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
      9) Re: more about AWAKE
            by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>

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    Topic No. 1

    Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 04:32:40 -0500 (CDT)
    From: csimmns@whale.st.usm.edu (Christopher Carrol Simmons)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Jens :)
    Message-ID: <9408200932.AA64333@whale.st.usm.edu>

    > i haven't been able to confirm this, but i think that Jordan
    > appears on Vinnie Moore's Time Oddessey cd. is there anyone
    > out there who has this cd and can confirm this? what do you
    > guys think of his playing?
     
    I actually got it today, out of curiosity, in a used CD shop but I will
    respectfully decline to publicly comment on his playing. :)

    Hey Jens, I've never heard any of your work, but judging from the above
    quote...I think I'm starting to like ya...attitude is just as important as
    talent IMHO. I take that back, I've got Lock Up The Wolves...for
    free...brand new at a music store...they couldn't sell them or send them
    back...It doesn't reflect on you, it reflects on my hometown...I'll listen
    to ya again...or rather listen for ya...anyway, I hope your future
    projects turn out the way you want them to.

    Chris C. Simmons
    ******************************************************************************
    csimmns@whale.st.usm.edu "Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"
    UP THE IRONS!! "I think so, Brain, but burlap chafes me so."
    ******************************************************************************

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    Topic No. 2

    Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 04:04:26 -0600 (MDT)
    From: "Alan J. Mallery" <ajmaller@ouray.Denver.Colorado.EDU>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Keyboard situation
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9408200346.A10800-0100000@ouray>

    Jens, sorry to hear the band is not going with you as a replacement.
    Guess I'll have to check out the Jonas Helborg group cd, love that
    Hammond! There's lots of great prog bands coming out of Sweden right
    now, do you get to listen to any of them while you're there? (Like
    Anglagard, Anekdoten, Landberk, Isuldur's Bane, etc.)
     
    Btw, Anglagard and Anekdoten will both be at Progfest '94 Nov 5th and 6th
    in LA.
     
    Jordan Rudess is also a very capable player. He put out a great solo
    album last year called "Listen", and was voted best new talent by readers
    of Keyboard magazine. The disc has great modern keyboard textures, but
    somehow I can't see him with DT. He doesn't seem to be a metal type guy
    at all, but who knows.
     
    It also bothers me that they are keeping any keyboard players as just
    sideman, instead of full writing partners. I would not like to see a
    diminished role for keys in the group, as guitar-laden heavy metal is
    just not my cup of tea.
     
    Well that's my view on it all,
     
    Alan

    ______________________________________________________________________________
    Alan Mallery |
    (ajmaller@ouray.denver.colorado.edu) | (insert quote here)
    (Emerson@aol.com) |

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    Topic No. 3

    Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 10:05:04 -0500 (EDT)
    From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 491
    Message-ID: <199408201405.KAA12920@rasp.cs.brandeis.edu>

    > Topic No. 7
    >
    > From: pandora <pandora@u.washington.edu>
    > Subject: opinions, reflections, and a question or two...
    >
    > First, a question. ANyone out there know if Metalblade/Priority is a true
    > indie? If not, who is their big 6 sponsor (and why are they being so hush
    > hush about their sponsorship?)

    I don't know about how it is now, but I know that the Reprise Records
    symbol that appears on Parallels (the lower case r with 2 dots next to
    it) appears in the Warner Bros forum on AOL... Don't know if Priority
    Records is the same or not, though...

    > ------------------------------
    >
    > Topic No. 12
    >
    > From: khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson)
    > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 490
    >
    > Don't they kinda have to keep "Wait for Sleep?" "Learning to Live" isn;t
    > the same without it...
    >

    Actually, for the entire protion of the tour when they played Eve, WFS
    was done as a medley with Surrounded in the middle of the show, with
    LTL following Eve in the encore...

    > ------------------------------
    >
    > Topic No. 13
    >
    > From: Kaoru Kobayashi <GCH06672@niftyserve.or.jp>
    > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digiest 490

    >
    > > Yes, Space Dye Vest is an instrumental tune. It bigins with very beautiful
    > > Piano sound, and the latter half, heavy guitar joins. This tune written by
    >
    > I wrote about an interview of DT broadcasted in Japan on YTSEJAM Digiest 482.
    > I just heard the interview. That's all. ...OK, I'll explain again. DT is very

    Hmm... perhapse they are still debating whether or not to use lyrics?
    I mean, Jens just said that the version he heard had lyrics... Yet
    this DJ said it didn't... Maybe that will be one of the bonus tracks?
    A different version... I guess we won't know until Oct 4...

    > ------------------------------
    >
    > From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
    > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 490 (a few, again..:)

    >
    > > I've not listened to any tracks of AWAKE, and I have a question. I've heard
    > > that a track include "Puppies On Acid".Is it true? And which track is it?
    > > I want to listen to AWAKE as soon!!
    >

    Strange... part of my reply didn't get included... Anyway, what I
    tried to say was that I had heard that 6:00 was based on Pup, and that
    tenative titles so far had been to use Puppies On Acid or Kittens On
    Crack... I though that someone had posted that here before...

    -- 
    +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
    |                          Caught In A Web                             |
    |                        Numb from the world                           |
    |                       Hanging on by a thread                         |
    |             Scared of the life that fights in my head                |
    |      Dream Theater         Caught In A Web               Awake       |
    |      release date for Dream Theater's Awake:   October 4, 1994       |
    +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
    |      Michael Burstin                       Brandeis University       |
    +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
    For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
    

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    Topic No. 4

    Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 10:59:27 -0500 (EDT) From: hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Japanese version of Awake? Message-ID: <199408201459.KAA01449@umbc8.umbc.edu>

    Does anyone know when the Jap version of Awake is coming out? Is it any sooner than the US release date of October 4th? Is it really gonna have a bonus track? Any idea what it may be?

    If its coming out earlier and gonna have a cool bonus track, I may order it from CD Europe or something...

    Let me know what you know!

    Thanks!

    ************************************************************************** * Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu * * * * You're fighting the weight of the world, * * and no one can save you this time. * * Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. * * * * "Take the Time" - Dream Theater * **************************************************************************

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    Topic No. 5

    Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 12:50:57 +0800 From: mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Message-ID: <9408201951.AA01003@anthor.arastar.com>

    > ------------------------------ > > Topic No. 15 > > From: EMRST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu > Subject: Re: SDV stuff > > He said that Kevin was very hesitant to hear SDV after formal production. > Do you think that maybe the band took this tune further than he ever intended > for it. Or perhaps in the wrong direction. I'd be interested to hear the > version on his demo and the version on Awake, and perhaps this could clear > some of the "musical differences" up. >

    Unfortunatly, I don't think that we will ever know... I don't think that _anyone_ will ever hear Kevin's version... :(

    > > Eve was done for MOST? of the I&W tour? This strikes me weird since it only > appears on one or two legs of the tour, according to the bootleg list (cass- > ette) which divides the recordings by set lists. How many boots that we > know of have Eve on it? Only 2 or 3, right? Also, is there 2 versions > of Eve out there, 1 with vocals and one without? This is probably in the FAQ > so I'll go there next. I just can't remember. >

    Yeah... Eve had been done for quite a while... At least once in every city... the 2nd half of the tour... As far as I can tell, they started using Eve when they strted their 2nd US tour, and continued it until they finished the tour, somewhere in Europe or Asia... I don;t know where they ended... As far as boots w/ Eve, check out DoL, LoS, LitS, any others from the same locations (I think someone mentioned that there is another copy of DoL and LoS floating around (not unusual, since they are both FM broadcast shows)). Besides that, there is of course, DoE, but I would consider that to be different...

    (oh, also, there are not that many boots that don't have Eve either... HSH, LiLI (same shows), CU, Moon Bubbles, a few more possibly...

    > ------------------------------ > > Topic No. 18 > > From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> > Subject: Re: SDV stuff > > > >I'm glad he doesn't write lyrics like that for DT songs. > > > > > > > Well, first off, check out Pull Me Under, Surrounded, Wait For Sleep, > > 6:00, Lie, and I am _guessing_ the sampled version of Eve... I don't > > really know how you can say that (or am I misinterpreting what you > > said). > > Uhm, I think you're misinterpreting what I said... heh. I meant I'm glad > he doesn't use the word fuck in any of his lyrics for DT (unless he stuck > them in there but you have to play it backwards to hear it! :)) >

    A appologise for misinterpreting your remark... Obviously, I read it wrong...

    -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Caught In A Web | | Numb from the world | | Hanging on by a thread | | Scared of the life that fights in my head | | Dream Theater Caught In A Web Awake | | release date for Dream Theater's Awake: October 4, 1994 | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Michael Burstin Brandeis University | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu

    +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Michael Burstin Brandeis University | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu

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    Topic No. 6

    Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 16:30:47 +0800 From: mike.masi@chowda.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Awake release Message-ID: <9408202331.AA01988@anthor.arastar.com>

    A _lot_ of stuff has been happening in the past couple of weeks with regards to DT, a LOT. All this new info on Awake, Kev's departure, the choice of a new keyboardist, etc. I think Jens summed it all up perfect when he said it is "surreal." With all this stuff going on, will the release date of Awake be affected in any way? I know it seems small in compared to the other stuff, but I know many fans (including myself) are just a little more than excited for the release of the new album. I only hope they decide on a permanent keyboardist after the release, rather than pull a "LaBrie" and audition 200 people, in the meantime leaving the fans teetering on the edge of insanity :)

    Mike <mike.masi@chowda.com>

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    Topic No. 7

    Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 16:32:10 +0800 From: khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 491 Message-ID: <9408202332.AA01999@anthor.arastar.com>

    They are playing "Lie" on the local radio station here in Denver.

    So, when is the official release date?

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    Topic No. 8

    Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 01:37:01 -0500 (CDT) From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Keyboard situation Message-ID: <199408210637.BAA01793@galaxy.galstar.com>

    > Jordan Rudess is also a very capable player. He put out a great solo > album last year called "Listen", and was voted best new talent by readers > of Keyboard magazine. The disc has great modern keyboard textures, but > somehow I can't see him with DT. He doesn't seem to be a metal type guy > at all, but who knows.

    Hmm... maybe that is just what DT needs... a keyboardist who isn't a metal type guy... a member of the band to keep the wide range and variety that Kev has brought us in the past. Hopefully if they like him they will keep him.

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    Topic No. 9

    Date: Sun, 21 Aug 1994 01:51:59 -0500 (CDT) From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: more about AWAKE Message-ID: <199408210652.BAA02487@galaxy.galstar.com>

    > About the CD having more than 75 mins... the suppose extra track is not > possible... higher track density means you can't play it on every CD > player...

    I know this has nothing to do with DT, but I didn't know there were different densities of CDs... and if so, how do you know which densities your CD player can play?

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