YTSEJAM Digest 609
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Trades
by EMRST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu
2) PLEASE READ - IMPORTANT INFO ABOUT A VIRUS
by EMRST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu
3) bad traders...
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
4) HELP!!!
by M.J.Thomas-SE2@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk
5) Re: Record stores in London (was: DT single)
by M.J.Thomas-SE2@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk
6) "Awake" thoughts
by <laferrie@bashfull.usmcs.maine.edu> (Kevin R Laferriere)
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 607
by Mozo21@aol.com
8) DT CD-Singles
by jhaynes@connix.com (Jeremy Haynes)
9) Watchtower
by James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
10) Japanese Awake...
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
11) Bubble chamber tracks.
by Larry G Waterfield <mulgw1@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>
12) Re: PLEASE READ - IMPORTANT INFO ABOUT A VIRUS
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
13) Re: A little disgusted...
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
14) No airplay
by MikeP81576@aol.com
15) Re: Trades
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
16) Re: What makes a fan.
by afeyder@gac.edu
17) Re: My DT start...
by James Bickers <jbickers@iglou.com>
18) Crimson Glory
by TAYLOR@CUPLVX.AP.COLUMBIA.EDU
19) Online prog (was Re: A little disgusted...)
by kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
20) Re: PLEASE READ - IMPORTANT INFO ABOUT A VIRUS
by V C Morrison <UGVMORRI@ECUVM.CIS.ECU.EDU>
21) Re: YTSEJAM digest 607
by James Bako <jbako01@barney.poly.edu>
22) Marching band version of PMU
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
23) Re: PLEASE READ - IMPORTANT INFO ABOUT A VIRUS
by kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
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Date: Tue, 06 Dec 1994 12:01:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: EMRST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Trades
Message-ID: <01HKBLRSSGYOAKTXYQ@vms.cis.pitt.edu>
WARNING: THIS IS A FLAME
> Also, I don't include set lists (You know what the songs are...you
>write them out, I don't have time) and send only 1st class. If you don't
>dub with levels between 0 and 3 dB, get out of business...we don't need
>you. I don't sell and don't trade for blanks. I don't send cases.
I'm not sure who the fuck you think you are, but you're impressing the hell out
of me. You get "MOST INTIMIDATING TRADER AWARD". I've traded with about half
of this list, and we all do it the same: Setlists are always included, always
on high bias type II tapes, and uh.. we usually think its pretty cool to send
the case along with the tape. So I would say that its we who do not need you,
and that YOU should get out of business. I'll get your shows from someone
else. I'd rather lose a generation than put up with your bullshit.
KAI (Notice, I do identify myself in my messages, because I don't treat my
fellow list members like dicks)
ps. My heart goes out to you and your time problem. If only we could imagine
what it would be like to have finals and no time, perhaps we could better
understand your reasons for being such an asshole.
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Date: Tue, 06 Dec 1994 12:30:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: EMRST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: PLEASE READ - IMPORTANT INFO ABOUT A VIRUS
Message-ID: <01HKBN8H98NSAKTXYQ@vms.cis.pitt.edu>
Everyone,
I just got this important info. I'm not sure if its been posted yet.
There's a nationwide virus being spread via e-mail under the title "GOOD TIMES"
If you see this, do not read it, or download the file under the same name.
Again, at all costs, avoid an e-mail message or file with the title "GOOD
TIMES".
This virus contains code which will rewrite your harddrive.
Info from University of Pittsburgh affiliates, and Megadeth mailing list.
KAI
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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 13:13:20 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam SERVER),
Subject: bad traders...
Message-ID: <199412061813.NAA21015@beryl.cs.brandeis.edu>
Well... seeing so many people complaining about bad traders on
several digests that this message is going out to, I though that i
woiuld Take The Time (bad joke, I know :) to mention the small list
that I have been compiling of bad traders.
This list is NOT for people that don;t send cases, don;t send set
lists, or even take a little longer than most in trading, but for the
people that have gone through several trades with several people
without ever sending the tapes that they owe.
The list that I have compiled is, so far, at least (and thankfully)
pretty small... but with several people complaining, I though I would
remind others about it.
The format of the list includes as much info on the person as
possible, INCLUDING the person who sent me the complaint. If you have
any people this fit this category, please let me know and I will
include it on the list. Keep in mind, do NOT use this list b/c you
are pissed off at someone... it is not for that...
Also, keep in mind that a person who is on this list is not
necessarly excluded from ever trading again... All that they have to
is to send out their tapes, and the other person return the tapes once
the tapes that they are due are recieved.
If you have any submissions, or would like to see my current list,
please let me know by PRIVATE email and do not reply to this post.
--
+--------------------------------+---------------+---------------------+
| I never bared my emotions | Dream Theater | Michael Burstin |
| My passion always strong | Scarred | Brandeis University |
| I never lost my devotion | Awake +---------------------+
| but somewhere fate went wrong. | Get AWAKEned today, in stores now |
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
http://cs.brandeis.edu/USER/UGRAD/mikeb/home.html
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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 94 16:12:44 GMT
From: M.J.Thomas-SE2@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: HELP!!!
Message-ID: <2646.9412061612@eeyore.cs.bham.ac.uk>
No news and views this time, just some humble begging from the UK.
Please, please, please could some kind soul be good enough to mail me the
UK dates for DT's tour next year. If the Germany one are known, the UK ones
must surely be out, no?!
I'd hate to miss out on a ticket, so please get back to me asap.
Cheers in advance, 'jammers,
Matt.
"For the first time in a long time...it's about music."
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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 94 16:06:09 GMT
From: M.J.Thomas-SE2@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Record stores in London (was: DT single)
Message-ID: <2640.9412061606@eeyore.cs.bham.ac.uk>
>>Well worth getting your hands on just for
>>the novelty value.
>
>Does anyone know a good record store in London where to get not-so-mainstream
>(rare) stuff, like the DT single? I plan on doing a trip to London for
>attending the Queensryche gig at the Royal Albert Hall (March 12th) and
>would like to visit some good stores who have a little more than "the usual"
>in the rock department. :-)
>
>Anyone who has some good addresses to share, please e-mail me!
>
>Thanks a lot, Matt
The best place I can think of that you'll be able to find easily is the HUGE
HMV store in Oxford Street. It's got one of the largest metal sections I've
every seen. If they don't have everything that DT's ever done, I'll be
surprised. It's the only place I've ever seen the Queen of the Reich on CD as
well...
byee,
Matt.
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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 14:09:37 -0500
From: <laferrie@bashfull.usmcs.maine.edu> (Kevin R Laferriere)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: "Awake" thoughts
Message-ID: <9412061909.AA13240@bashfull.usmcs.maine.edu>
This is probably overdue, but, IMHO (now that I finally know what
that means!), DT is the most talented band on the planet. LaBrie
fits the band perfectly. It was obvious from "Live In Tokyo" that
LaBrie wanted to scream! And "Awake" gave him the opportunity to
do so. "Awake" is the best of their 3 albums IMO, and DT continues
to get better and better. "Awake" is both a lyric and musical
masterpiece. No one else comes close to DT, as far as talent,
and musicianship.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm Dis con nec ted...
- group:'Queensryche', song:'Disconnected', CD:'Promised Land'
I'd rather be with an animal...
- group:'Pearl Jam', song:'Animal', CD:'Vs.'
Look in the mirror my friend...
- group: 'Dream Theater', song:'The Mirror', CD:'Awake'
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For more information on Queensryche, Pearl Jam, or Dream Theater,
finger laferrie@bashfull.usmcs.maine.edu
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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 17:03:44 -0500
From: Mozo21@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 607
Message-ID: <941206170342_7302183@aol.com>
A deluded Paul Cashman writes:
<<Sad, but true. Yes, I'd -love- to move to Tampa or Detroit
or New York or somewhere with 'real' radio. >>
Well, I can't speak for Tampa or Detroit, but New York radio sucks. Q104,
which played the hell out of 'Lie", also seems to play the hell out of bad
songs as well. They have no variety! It's almost like they are Top 40 metal.
Andy
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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 14:57:17 -0500
From: jhaynes@connix.com (Jeremy Haynes)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT CD-Singles
Message-ID: <199412061957.OAA26131@comet.connix.com>
Hi all...thought I'd pass this information on to the list:
**DISCLAIMER** I am not affiliated with the below-mentioned dealer nor have
I ever dealt with him in anyway so caveat emptor when ordering....
ssowder@copper.ucs.indiana.edu has for sale the following DT CD-Singles:
>Dream Theater|Take the Time|$5|CD-single
>Dream Theatre|Pull Me Under|$4|CD-single
He also has some Crimson Glory and other prog stuff....to get the complete
list send email to: ssowder@copper.ucs.indiana.edu with the subject line
SELLLIST....(BOOTLIST will get you a list of _traders_ and their goods, and
SUBSCRIBE will put you on his weekly list)
Have fun!
Jer <jhaynes@connix.com>
"Enter Youngman....Welcome" AD/FW
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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 17:56:31 -0500
From: James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Watchtower
Message-ID: <Pine.DYN.3.91.941206174850.14286E-100000@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
If you like DT, you're cool! Although, sometimes I like to brag that I
bought WD&DU when it came out.
Early this year I contacted Watchtower and they sent me a tape with 3 new
songs on it. None of these songs have vocals and they asked me to
overdub my own lyrics and melodies onto the tape. Well, needless to say
I have not gotten around to this yet. I did write the lyrics and vocal
lines but have not recorded my voice onto the tape yet. Around that
time, INFERNO was almost defunct but now we have a CD out in Europe and a
full line-up. I still may record my voice on the tape just to see what
they think and leave my options open.
If you don't have 'Control And Resistance', check it out. If you like
Cynic, you'll love Watchtower.
Later,
Jay Peele (INFERNO)
jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu
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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 18:01:09 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam SERVER)
Subject: Japanese Awake...
Message-ID: <199412062301.SAA24451@pearl.cs.brandeis.edu>
Damn... just got in from Newbury Comics... They actually had copy of
the Japanese version of Awake... I was very shocked... although the
price was a little more shocking... $40 for the CD!!! I'm just glad
I had mine imported directly from Japan... much cheaper... :) (BTW,
if I didn't mention it here before, thanks Kaoru (and sorry if I
didn't spell your name correctly))
--
+--------------------------------+---------------+---------------------+
| I never bared my emotions | Dream Theater | Michael Burstin |
| My passion always strong | Scarred | Brandeis University |
| I never lost my devotion | Awake +---------------------+
| but somewhere fate went wrong. | Get AWAKEned today, in stores now |
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
http://cs.brandeis.edu/USER/UGRAD/mikeb/home.html
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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 17:07:19 -0600 (CST)
From: Larry G Waterfield <mulgw1@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Bubble chamber tracks.
Message-ID: <199412062307.AA16415@ecom3.ecn.bgu.edu>
Hi everyone.
What are bubble chamber tracks? I'm just three days short of finishing
my formal education for my B.S. in Physics, so I guess I know what they are.
You know those pink containters that children get that contain
a sort of detergent solution and a plastic wand... No, wait. That's not
it. Ummm....
Ok, I got it!
A bubble chamber is a device that's used to determine the momentum of
charged nuclear particles.
The chamber is filled with superheated liquid hydrogen. When a particle
passes through, it triggers boiling around it, producing ... guess what?
BUBBLES! By bending the particle's path with a magnetic field, the
momentum can be determined. The bubbles give a visible record of the
path, which is then photographed.
Is this what is supposed to be inside the Awake sleeve? I dunno.
At least now our lives are all complete.
Hope that helps!
Toodles!
Glenn
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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 17:24:48 -0600 (CST)
From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: PLEASE READ - IMPORTANT INFO ABOUT A VIRUS
Message-ID: <199412062324.RAA15689@galaxy.galstar.com>
> Everyone,
> I just got this important info. I'm not sure if its been posted yet.
>
> There's a nationwide virus being spread via e-mail under the title "GOOD TIMES"
> If you see this, do not read it, or download the file under the same name.
> Again, at all costs, avoid an e-mail message or file with the title "GOOD
> TIMES".
>
> This virus contains code which will rewrite your harddrive.
> Info from University of Pittsburgh affiliates, and Megadeth mailing list.
I'm assuming this ain't for us modem users. (as I don't see how a virus
could effect something thats transfered by our modem to our screen.)
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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 17:57:45 -0600 (CST)
From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: A little disgusted...
Message-ID: <199412062357.RAA15982@galaxy.galstar.com>
> Start going mailorder like the rest of us who live in out of the
> way places... the closest record store to me that carries bootlegs and
> rarities is 31 miles away. OTOH, you can order from cd-connection and
> Metal Blade Records right off the net. Or pick up a copy of Goldmine
> magazine at your local newsstand.
I know of cdconnection.com and cdnow.com. What is the Metal Blade
connection and are there any more? I'd love to order a lot of CDs for
christmas if I can get them cheaper than Best Buy.
So if there are any more, please let me, and all other ytsejamers know.
then I will have a merry progressive christmas. :)
now about Kings X, I never saw that message however what album was it
promoting? it sounds pretty cool if it "blew you away." can any
ytsejamers give me a starter album for them? also heres my present plan
on what to get for christmas.
a few King Crimson CDs... (I have Larks Tounge in Aspic and I REALLY like
it... awesome album.)
a few ELP albums... I don't have any of their cds, but I want to get a
few. one person on here (thanks again) recommended Brain Salad Surgery.
Any more recommendations?
a few yes cds...
Magellans Impending Ascnesion CD
MAYBE a Crimson Glory cd... I don't know.
maybe a Dregs CD or two... never heard them. suggestions?
a marillion cd, probably that childhood cd, I forget the name. misplaced
childhood. i think.
any more suggestions/comments? thanks again to everyone who's helped out.
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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 19:09:00 -0500
From: MikeP81576@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: No airplay
Message-ID: <941206185847_7373401@aol.com>
> Keep in mind that not every city has a cool radio station that
> plays good music -- some of us are stuck in remote areas with
> few signals carrying, or in big-time cities with stupid program-
> and music directors who think Allman Brothers and Lynyrd
> Skynyrd are the tops. Sad, but true. Yes, I'd -love- to move
> to Tampa or Detroit or New York or somewhere with 'real' radio.
You don't even have to live in the sticks to lack decent radio. Indianapolis
(alright, not a thriving metropolis - but big) doesn't have a hard rock/metal
station anymore either. Which is too bad, because when I&W hit it big they
played the shit out of it.
That sad fact remains that fans of metal - moreso than any other radio
listening group - lack the one thing that radio stations and big business
love: disposable income. This obviously doesn't apply to everyone, but it
stands as a broad generalization.
Mike
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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 18:09:29 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Trades
Message-ID: <199412070109.SAA12148@bud.indirect.com>
> > Also, I don't include set lists (You know what the songs are...you
> >write them out, I don't have time) and send only 1st class. If you don't
> >dub with levels between 0 and 3 dB, get out of business...we don't need
> >you. I don't sell and don't trade for blanks. I don't send cases.
>
> I'm not sure who the fuck you think you are, but you're impressing the hell out
> of me. You get "MOST INTIMIDATING TRADER AWARD". I've traded with about half
> of this list, and we all do it the same: Setlists are always included, always
> on high bias type II tapes, and uh.. we usually think its pretty cool to send
> the case along with the tape. So I would say that its we who do not need you,
> and that YOU should get out of business. I'll get your shows from someone
> else. I'd rather lose a generation than put up with your bullshit.
No shit.. I read that and immediately I knew I would never be
trading with that guy ... between Mike Burstin, Brian Cox, and I we
probably have the largest collective boot collection on Ytsejam, and we
don't mind at all "going the extra mile" for our trades... because we
know when someone gets our tapes and sees the setlists, and cases, and so
forth, they really feel good about getting the tape, and then you get
that many more genuine offers and good trades.
What's this 0 and 3 db nonsense? You record the tape exactly as
you have it. Anyone who messes with things is asking for trouble insomuch
as the tape can only _lose_ generational quality. A lot of older (as in,
more collectible, and more desirable) Rush and Zep boots are taped at way
odd decibel levels... you don't mess with 'em because you want the next
person who gets a copy from you to agree with your quality rating, and
feel good about trading with you.
> ps. My heart goes out to you and your time problem. If only we could imagine
> what it would be like to have finals and no time, perhaps we could better
> understand your reasons for being such an asshole.
Yeah... I have his time constraints plus a 40 hour workweek, yet
I can find time to print out setlists on the ole' Caseliner program...
Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com
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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 19:28:03 (CST)
From: afeyder@gac.edu
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: What makes a fan.
Message-ID: <199412070128.TAA14545@hermes.gac.edu>
Hello everyone. It seems there is a thread here of folks having to defend
their reasons for being a DT fan by saying when they started listening to
the band, what albums, boots, etc. they own and so on. There are also
others who claim to be "real" or "better" fans based on what DT stuff
they own. I say anyone who can get pleasure out of any band, be it
musical appreciation, a particular emotion, etc. is a fan. The number of
albums you have by them or how many times you've seen them live or whether
or not you have their lyrics memorized should be irrelevant. For myself,
I like DT for the feeling I get when I listen to their music and I'm a
drummer so I admire Portnoy's style. That's it. I *only* have the three
studio albums, but that's because my tastes vary widely and I have only so
much money to spend on cd's. I'm also not a big collector of anything. I
have gotten several of my friends to listen/appreciate DT, and each of
them likes something different about the band. I know someone who LOVES
them more than me but doesn't have WDADU 'cause he hates Dominici. Is he
a poser, not in my opinion. People listen to what they listen to for
different, personal reasons, and it's not really for others to judge.
Thanks for listening, ALL you DT fans!
__________________________________________________________
| Andrew Joseph Feyder | "You know, life moves pretty |
| Gustavus Adolphus College | fast. If you don't stop |
| 800 West College Ave. | and look around, you could |
| St. Peter MN 56082 | miss it" |
| (507)-933-8715 | -Ferris Bueller. |
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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 20:41:25 -0500 (EST)
From: James Bickers <jbickers@iglou.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: My DT start...
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.941206203633.25028A-100000@iglou>
> Compare to Megadeth, if you will. I happened to be a fan of theirs since
> the Peace Sells.. album. I liked their first four albums (up to Rust In
> Peace). Then they put out two crappy albums that made them multi-platinum
> stars, and got them millions of new fans who when you talk to them utter
> "Peace what?" or "I dont like their old stuff, it's too fast". These are
> posers since they don't like, or even refuse to acknowledge their past.
> Bottom line: a fan is a fan is a fan. But a true fan is one who (while
> they don't even have to like or agree with it) is appreciates the whole
> body of work of an artist or band.
Hmm...you throw some interesting contradictions around in this post.
First of all, in the preceding paragraph re: Megadeth, you (a) criticize
their two crappy albums, then (b) tell us that a true fan is someone who
appreciates the whole body of work...("Well, it's shit, but I appreciate
it!")
> Anyway, to answer the original point of this thread way, way back, about
> DT fans being posers if they arrived after 1989, it's just not true.
> Anyone who hears one DT (except Lie) will immediately know if it's to
> their liking or not. With the exception of Lie, I dont think its possible
> for DT to ever become hugely popular to the point of being popular over
> one big single.
Here's another one. You tell us that people will know IMMEDIATELY
whether or not DT is for them. But for two full paragraphs earlier in
the post, you talk about how much you wouldn't have liked WDADU if you
had heard it, and how PMU "annoyed" you.
> Oh how I dread the day the Silent Man is released as a single, look what
> happened to Queensryche.
>
What would that be? That more people appreciate them now? That they
have the resources to put out albums that before, they couldn't afford
to? I think the boys in DT might enjoy that.
My .02,
James
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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 21:01:35 -0500 (EST)
From: TAYLOR@CUPLVX.AP.COLUMBIA.EDU
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Crimson Glory
Message-ID: <941206210135.23e0341d@CUPLVX.AP.COLUMBIA.EDU>
More Crimson Glory Info:
The band is from Sarasota, Florida. I have two (of apparently
their three) albums: "Transcendence" and "Strange & Beautiful".
"Transcendence" was released in 1988 on Roadrunner Records. The album
contains ten outstanding tracks. The vocalist, Midnight, has an impressive
range, and the instrumental performance is a treat. Definitely check out
the precision work on "Eternal World". A criticism I've heard leveled
at this release is that it sounds too much like Queensryche. Midnight's
voice is similar to Tate's, but calling "Transcendence" a Queensryche
rip-off is like calling DT a rip-off of Rush and Anthrax (I once actually
read where someone said this).
"Strange and Beautiful" came out in 1991 on Atlantic Records.
For this album, the band switched from the five member line-up of
"Transcendence" (Midnight-vocals, Jon Drenning-lead guitar, Ben Jackson-
rhythm guitar, Jeff Lords-bass, Dana Burnell-drums) to a foursome with
a new drummer (vocals, lead and bass same, Ravi Jakhotia-drums). This
album moved from the mythological bend of some of the songs "Transcendence"
to more cerebral subject matter. The addition of Ravi added an almost
African flavor to the drumming. The album was a fitting follow-up to
"Transcendence".
All in all, both albums are outstanding, I would strongly recommend
them to any progressive metal fan. Also, if anyone knows anything about
their "Crimson Glory" album or knows about the bands current status, please
tell me!!
Erik Taylor
taylor@cuplvx.ap.columbia.edu
"The King of Los Angeles bought himself a teddy bear,
and the queen became shameless,
she did it with a chair." - Helloween
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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 18:53:16 +0800
From: kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Online prog (was Re: A little disgusted...)
Message-ID: <9412070253.AA22268@anthor.arastar.com>
> From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
>
> > Metal Blade Records
> I know of cdconnection.com and cdnow.com. What is the Metal Blade
> connection and are there any more? I'd love to order a lot of CDs for
> christmas if I can get them cheaper than Best Buy.
Metal Blade is a record label which has been around for a while. For more
information, send mail to MtlBldRcds@aol.com and you should be able to
get a list of what they've got.
> So if there are any more, please let me, and all other ytsejamers know.
> then I will have a merry progressive christmas. :)
>
> a few King Crimson CDs... (I have Larks Tounge in Aspic and I REALLY like
> it... awesome album.)
If you don't have them, try "Red", "VROOOM" (their new EP), and "Discipline"
You might also be interested in subscribing to the King Crimson mailing list
(elephant-talk-request@arastar.com). No need to do the old:
subscribe elephant-talk William Wright
thing with this list (it's going to a human--me).
> a marillion cd, probably that childhood cd, I forget the name. misplaced
> childhood. i think.
Yup, it's Misplaced Childhood. You might want to look at the FAQ for
deciding which one you want (I'd suggest MC as your first Marillion.
Then I'd try "Script for a Jester's Tear" and "Brave" to see which
direction you should go). The FAQ can be retrieved by sending:
get freaks faq-2.6-1
get freaks faq-2.6-2
get freaks faq-2.6-3
to freaks-request@arastar.com (yeah, yet another prog list on this
machine).
Have you heard early Genesis yet (no, not "Abacab" or "Mama")? Songs like
"Supper's Ready", "Musical Box", and "Cinema Show" have really impressive
musicianship (and you get Peter Gabriel on vocals, not Phil Collins).
As far as Progressive rock in general is concerned, a good place to
start is the Gibraltar Encyclopedia of Rock (which can be downloaded).
It has entries for a lot of bands. You can also get good info from
the alt.music.progressive FAQs (if there's a demand, I can start making
them available for email downloads from here. Otherwise, you can ftp
them from ucdavis).
For progressive rock sources, send:
get ph7 faq2.mailorder
to ph7-request@arastar.com and you'll get a list of mail order sources
that specialize in progressive rock. If you're unsure of a particular
vendor, the list probably has someone who has dealt with that vendor.
Good luck in your progressive rock search :)
--
Ken Bibb "Upon a wave of summer
kbibb@arastar.com A hilltop paved with gold
jester@crash.cts.com We shut our eyes and make the promises we hold"
David Sylvian--"Wave"
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Date: Tue, 06 Dec 94 22:07:52 EST
From: V C Morrison <UGVMORRI@ECUVM.CIS.ECU.EDU>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: PLEASE READ - IMPORTANT INFO ABOUT A VIRUS
Message-ID: <9412070310.AA22296@anthor.arastar.com>
So how can an ascii message contain a virus, assuming you're actually
downloading your mail to your PC, and assuming it's a PC virus?
/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-
"If I started from the top and worked my way down, I'd have no reason
to live forever."
-Dream Theater
-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-
Vincent C. Morrison| S O U L S T E A L E R |UGVMORRI@ECUVM.CIS.ECU.EDU
--------------------------------------------|ENMORRIS@ECUVAX.CIS.ECU.EDU
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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 21:49:02 -0500 (EST)
From: James Bako <jbako01@barney.poly.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 607
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9412062149.A29241-0100000@barney>
On Tue, 6 Dec 1994 Mozo21@aol.com wrote:
> A deluded Paul Cashman writes:
>
> <<Sad, but true. Yes, I'd -love- to move to Tampa or Detroit
> or New York or somewhere with 'real' radio. >>
>
> Well, I can't speak for Tampa or Detroit, but New York radio sucks. Q104,
> which played the hell out of 'Lie", also seems to play the hell out of bad
> songs as well. They have no variety! It's almost like they are Top 40 metal.
>
> Andy
I agree about Q104
Try 89.5FM. It's Seton Hall U's station. Plays metal all week (except
Sunday's their all Christian). Depending on your reception (the signal
comes in from NJ so its kinda weak in the city). Easily the station to
listen to in the NY/NJ area.
James Bako
jbako01@barney.poly.edu
Polytechnic University
Brooklyn, New York
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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 22:19:19 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam SERVER)
Subject: Marching band version of PMU
Message-ID: <199412070319.WAA25602@pearl.cs.brandeis.edu>
Hey... just got info about an .au file you can reach from the web of
a marching band doing PMU. For access, check out
http://everest.cs.ucdavis.edu/wetmore/camb/ I think it was under songs
or something like that... some other cool stuff also...
--
+--------------------------------+---------------+---------------------+
| I never bared my emotions | Dream Theater | Michael Burstin |
| My passion always strong | Scarred | Brandeis University |
| I never lost my devotion | Awake +---------------------+
| but somewhere fate went wrong. | Get AWAKEned today, in stores now |
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
http://cs.brandeis.edu/USER/UGRAD/mikeb/home.html
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Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 20:31:55 +0800
From: kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
To: ytsejam, freaks, ph7
Subject: Re: PLEASE READ - IMPORTANT INFO ABOUT A VIRUS
Message-ID: <9412070431.AA22469@anthor.arastar.com>
(User name changed to protect someone who was trying to be helpful.)
> From: user@vms.cis.pitt.edu
>
> Everyone,
> I just got this important info. I'm not sure if its been posted yet.
> There's a nationwide virus being spread via e-mail under the title
> "GOOD TIMES"
[deleted]
First, I'd like to thank you for being concerned about the readers of this
mailing list :) Unfortunately, this is a hoax. It's useful to understand how
viruses work and spread. So I'm going to waste some bandwidth on this.
The following is a message which states that Good Times is a hoax.
The risks forum is a fairly reputable source (and yes, I confirmed that
this is actually out in the comp.risks newsgroup):
-------- 8< Included Message 8< ----------
> From: RISKS Forum <risks@csl.sri.com>
> Sender: RISKS Forum <risks@csl.sri.com>
> Date: Tue, 6 Dec 94 17:49:29 PST
> Subject: RISKS DIGEST 16.61
> Reply-To: risks@csl.sri.com
> Errors-To: risks-request@csl.sri.com
> To: RISKS-2:;
RISKS-LIST: RISKS-FORUM Digest Tuesday 6 December 1994 Volume 16 : Issue 61
>
> ------------------------------
>
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 10:14:47 +0200
> From: Yehuda Berlinger <yehuda@jerusalem1.datasrv.co.il>
Subject: Virus alert virus alert
I have been inundated with virus alerts. Somehow, this virus alert has been
propagating out of control. It must be a virus in the virus alert. (Note:
I don't mean to belittle the alert, but there must be some way of controlling
its propagation. I have received it 4 times now from different sources.)
>I have just received this message and been asked to take it seriously:
>There is a virus on America Online being sent by E-Mail. If you get
>anything called "Good Times", DON'T read it or download it. It is a
>virus that will erase your hard drive. Forward this to all your
>friends.
>It may help them alot.
[I suppose you are lucky you only got 4 copies.
But it appears to be a complete hoax, as suspected
by Rob Furr <rfurr@jazz.ncren.net>, who was amused at the
close timing of the AOL message and Michael Slavitch's
item in RISKS-16.60, and who added
There are idiots in the world who think it's awfully funny to cry
"Wolf" as soon as someone else notices that it's theoretically
possible that wolves exist. Rob F.
PGN]
-------- 8< Included Message 8< ----------
--
Ken Bibb "Upon a wave of summer
kbibb@arastar.com A hilltop paved with gold
jester@crash.cts.com We shut our eyes and make the promises we hold"
David Sylvian--"Wave"
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