YTSEJAM Digest 613
Today's Topics:
1) meaning of Erotomania
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
2) New DT video boot!
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
3) RE: THE PROGRESSION OF JOHN PETRUCCI
by TIM LODGE SGA/PRE-LAW/MICRO/MAC LABS <LODGE_TIM@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU>
4) RE: THE PROGRESSION OF JOHN PETRUCCI
by TIM LODGE SGA/PRE-LAW/MICRO/MAC LABS <LODGE_TIM@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU>
5) Re: Boots
by Dario M Zagar <dmz2@columbia.edu>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 612
by Mortal Kombatant <edju@scf.usc.edu>
7) Re: New DT video boot!
by William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
8) Re: Promotional gaffes
by whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White)
9) Re: Dt and Christianity
by PROGnosis1@aol.com
10) How to send report?
by Godsize@aol.com
11) Re: Tape Cover Printing
by LAxe13129@aol.com
12) Re: Fans/Material etc. etc.
by PROGnosis1@aol.com
13) Re: Promotional gaffes
by PROGnosis1@aol.com
14) [REVIEW:] Last show of the DT/FW show. Dec 9th. Palace, Hollywood, CA
by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
15) The name!
by "Brian J. Wherry" <WB81%LAFAYACS.bitnet@lafibm.lafayette.edu>
16) Tom Rhodes T-shirt...
by Larry G Waterfield <mulgw1@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>
17) DT boot Discog
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
18) Re: Fans/Material etc. etc.
by James Bickers <jbickers@iglou.com>
19) DT UK LIE CD SINGLE + VINYL + FATES CD SINGLE FOR SALE!
by TIM LODGE SGA/PRE-LAW/MICRO/MAC LABS <LODGE_TIM@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU>
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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 23:15:33 -0500 (EST)
From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: meaning of Erotomania
Message-ID: <199412100415.XAA26862@umbc9.umbc.edu>
Hi there! My gf was watching some talk show, Montel or something, and
the were talking about stalkers and stuff. The said that the term
"erotomania" had something to do with stalking people.
Just thought I'd fill ya in.
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* Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu *
* *
* You're fighting the weight of the world, *
* and no one can save you this time. *
* Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. *
* *
* "Take the Time" - Dream Theater *
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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 23:43:59 -0500 (EST)
From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: New DT video boot!
Message-ID: <199412100444.XAA28202@umbc9.umbc.edu>
Hi all! I would like to let everyone know that I have an awesome new
video boot from the current DT tour. It is from the Pittsburg show.
It is a copy right from the master tape (2nd gen , I guess you call it).
The picture is excellent, the best I have ever seen on a video boot.
The audio is also very good but not 100% consistent. Once in a while
(about 2 or 3 times) it sounds like the guy is hitting some sort of
"high" or "low" tone control button or something and the sound changes
for a few seconds but no big deal. It includes the standard set list plus
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun and Innocence Faded.
I also have a very good audience audio tape from the New Haven show and
I should be getting one from the Toronto show soon too.
Please mail me if you would be interested in setting up some kinda trade.
Thanks!
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* Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu *
* *
* You're fighting the weight of the world, *
* and no one can save you this time. *
* Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. *
* *
* "Take the Time" - Dream Theater *
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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 0:35:18 -0500 (EST)
From: TIM LODGE SGA/PRE-LAW/MICRO/MAC LABS <LODGE_TIM@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: RE: THE PROGRESSION OF JOHN PETRUCCI
Message-ID: <941210003518.2020fe65@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU>
I'd just to like to say that that report was killer. i think you
should send a copy to Petrucci himself!
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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 0:40:38 -0500 (EST)
From: TIM LODGE SGA/PRE-LAW/MICRO/MAC LABS <LODGE_TIM@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: RE: THE PROGRESSION OF JOHN PETRUCCI
Message-ID: <941210004038.2020fe65@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU>
Now that we're on the subject of Petrucci, I would just like to add
some things. I've been playing guitar for 8 years or so, and growing
up i've had many different influences on my playing. Everything from
the "power chord" bands like Metallica and Megadeth to blues
guitarists like SRV and Gary Moore....But ever since I first heard
John Petrucci play (if i can call it that!) the guitar, I've been
convinced that he is hands down the greatest guitarist in the world.
The man is unstoppable. While the fact that he can SHRED is totally
amazing, he is also one of the most DIVERSE guitarists I've EVER
heard. The man can play any style of music. I think this is
very evident listening to all of his work. Recently, I was able
to see DT on tour in Providence and New Haven....his performance
was mind-boggling. and hey, he was a nice guy afterwards too!
What more can i say....he's the greatest..from every aspect.
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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 10:44:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Dario M Zagar <dmz2@columbia.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Boots
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.941209091136.2615A-100000@bonjour.cc.columbia.edu>
In response to Paul's post about unauthorized bootlegs cutting in on a
bands profit, etc., I have to say that I totally disagree in this case. In some cases with bootlegs that
may be true. For example, I believe that bootleg t-shirts at concerts do
severely hurt a bands take, as people that buy bootleg t-shirts, which are
cheaper, usually _don't_ also buy a real shirt; in addition, bands make a
good deal of their income on tour from shirts. HOWEVER, in the case of
live bootlegs, the people that buy the bootlegs, especially with a band
like DT, with fanatical fans, would buy them IN ADDITION to officially
released live albums. In this way, the band isn't losing a dime! If
anything, I would think a band like DT would appreciate it; boots are a
way fortheir fans to become even more excited and interested about them,
and might keep fans talking about them during down times between albums,
etc. Let's face it, a fan who has several boots (many of which have
similar set lists) would kill to have an official live album, which would
have better sound quality, packaging, etc. I doubt highly that the many
boots around hurt the sales of Live at the Marquee (which isn't even
released in the States!) or Live in Tokyo (which is of marginally better
quality then a bootleg vid!). So, until East/West decides to released
DT's equivalent of Live Shit and make some money off of us, we diehard fans
will keep buying and trading those boots! (My $0.02, of course)
Keep pounding away at that Erotomania transcription (I think I will for
years!). Later!
Dario
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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 01:02:58 -0800
From: Mortal Kombatant <edju@scf.usc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 612
Message-ID: <199412100902.BAA09922@phakt.usc.edu>
Re: DT @ LA Dec 9, 94
I finally got the chance to see DT live! It's been a long time since
a band's live performance has lived up to my expectations, I must say. I was
very happy to hear "Erotomania" performed live, and their renditon of "The
Silent Man" was as perfect as the recorded version.
My only gripe: how come John Myung didn't get a chance to play bass
solo? Even though people may have hyped him too much as being "all over the
place" live, he's more than a competent musician for such a demanding band.
Also, during "The Silent Man" many people started walking around and
talking. This really ruined the overall atmosphere, since they were
"unplugged" and the volume is low enough already.
The only encore they played was "Metropolis, Part I". I was hoping
maybe they come back again and play "Under a Glass Moon" or "Learning to Live"
but the house light went up instead. Mike Portnoy threw the plastic skins of
his bass drums to the audience, which was pretty cool.
Eddie
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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 09:02:32 -0500 (EST)
From: William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: New DT video boot!
Message-ID: <YiuPHs600WB94oJ3o3@andrew.cmu.edu>
what? i was at the show, they didnt play IF
slash wrists, scarlet fever-*-argh-heh-william bajzek-impaler@cmu.edu
crawl under your bathroom door--augh-no-http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu
pumping arteries ooze their problems------ouch-----.edu/usr/wb2a/home
through the gap the razor tore-and stuff-deal-with-it----stop---derek
i'm not bitter, damn you-----go away------yes you are and you know it
cds for sale:--http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/usr/wb2a/cdsale.html
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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 94 11:59:41 EST
From: whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Promotional gaffes
Message-ID: <9412101659.AA00835@mary.cs.fredonia.edu>
I was at Title Wave the other night, and as I was walking out, I decided to
see how much DT stuff they had. So I flipped through the CD's, and was surprised they
had about 4 copies of Awake and 2 of I&W. Then, way in the back, I actually
saw a copy of WDADU! I couldn't believe it! This was the store that I
asked about when the new album was going to come out, and they said "Dream Who?"
I was really pretty excited about it. I guess they must be gaining popularity
:)
Chris
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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 13:36:02 -0500
From: PROGnosis1@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Dt and Christianity
Message-ID: <941210133600_2598234@aol.com>
Kevin R Laferriere wrote:
<<<There has been dicussion on rec.music.christian about what members
of DT are Christian. Kevin Moore was said to be definetly Christian,
but none of the other members could be positively identified as
Christian. Does anyone know if MP, JP, JY, of JL are Christian?>>>
Having never spoken to the guys about religion I can only say things others
have said. I do know that MP is Jewish. I don't know exactly about Kevin but
having read some of his other lyrics he has some very, uh, *provacative*
things to say about religion. 'Nuff said...
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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 14:37:52 -0500
From: Godsize@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: How to send report?
Message-ID: <941210143751_2634817@aol.com>
Someone mentioned that I should send my research paper to John Petrucci
himself. How could I do that? Please let me know because I think that it
would be really cool! :-> I would, of course, change the guitar name mix up.
I don't want him to think I am a Dumbass.
Trey
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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 14:39:25 -0500
From: LAxe13129@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Tape Cover Printing
Message-ID: <941210143706_2636266@aol.com>
Anyone have acopy of a program that prints tape covers? I have a PC with no
pagemaker or anything like that. I have tons of non-DT stuff, and I want to
computerize it, but I don't have a program.
--- I've seen 'em, but don't have 'em.------------------------------
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 15:38:33 -0500 From: PROGnosis1@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Fans/Material etc. etc. Message-ID: <941210153829_2674579@aol.com>
Michael Bahr wrote: <<<What I'm getting at is that what you've said above is good and fine... for places like the computer software industry, for counterfeiters (not to be confused with bootleggers, counterfeiters actually release counterfeit versions of regular releases by bands), for film industry pirates, and the like. What the internet bootleg community is more like, is the japanimation collectors, and the used-videogame traders, just out to help each other enjoy the hobby at a reasonable price.>>>
Personally, I think there is a big difference between the 'netters and the outfits that actally manufacture, package, and market concert recordings. Us netters are doing it 'cause we love DT and are into in for the music. These commercial bootleggers aren't doing it for the music. With even the wholesale prices they charge to the stores that sell them, they're still making a very comfortable margin. As JP and JLB are about this subject, I, too, would be upset about someone taking my music and selling it.
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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 15:41:48 -0500 From: PROGnosis1@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Promotional gaffes Message-ID: <941210154147_2674638@aol.com>
jeremy wrote: <<<DREAM THEATER Awake EAST WEST These progressive rockers gather all the essentials into *their second album* with textural complications, unexpected hooks and articulate playing in cuts like "Lie."
See? Dream Theater only has two albums.>>>
I'm sure as far as EastWest is concerned, they DO only have 2 albums!;-)
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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 12:45:02 PST From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: [REVIEW:] Last show of the DT/FW show. Dec 9th. Palace, Hollywood, CA Message-ID: <199412102045.MAA27971@netcom10.netcom.com>
Dec. 9th 1994 -
This day will live in infamy. I was there... the last show of the DT/FW fall tour of the US.
Fates Warning opened with Down to the Wire. I must say, they have an evil, powerful sound live. Nothing compared to their albums. They have this incredibly dark aura. I was stunned. The show was performed with such passion and power that even without the fancy light setup they were mind blowing.
They cycled through songs mostly from Inside Out and Parallels, 11th Hour and Face the Fear was just incredible. When they finished playing, the crowd was still chanting "Fates, Fates, Fates".
Then Dream Theater came on, to say the least, if you didn't catch them with their FULL lighting set-up, you only saw half the show... the lighting was incredible with it's mosaic patterns and Awake backdrop.
The new jam and the new intro before The Mirror knocked me off my feet. Voices was immensely powerful, Lifting Shadows of a Dream was incredible, last but not least, for the encore, Metropolis... simply incredible. Watching Portnoy live is a sight to be seen...
After the show was over... I met all the Ytsejammers there! It was cool! I got a few of them backstage too... plus my motley crew of 6 people backstage for the after-show party which was actually being held at the Cafe of the Palace.
Greetings to Air_Dance and Don_Ivey!
We hung out with all the band members afterwards and chatted for a long time. I got all my backstage passes signed by DT and my ticket stub and my T-Shirt.
The first guy I ran into upstairs at the balcony was Derek. I introduced myself since I didn't get to talk to him the night before at Santa Ana. His name is indeed Derek Sherinian... the mystery is solved.
The first guy I ran into downstairs at the Cafe was Petrucci, I commented on a great show. Since I asked most of the relevant questions the night before I just kinda hung out and talked with him for a few moments.
Then I ran into Portnoy, handed him his copy of the King's X show I booted. He was pleased to say the least and then we spoke a little about his drum sticks and how he was having trouble catching them when he threw them and we all laughed.
Then I went over the greet Myung and he was very cool... He seems to really like his fans. He commented on how he was really glad I could make it the second night in a row. I said, "I'll be there whenever you guys play out here! "
And of course while I was talking with Myung, LaBrie ran by us and said "Hey guys, be right back!" and proceeded to greet one of his friends. And then he came back and me and my group were all talking to him. One of my friends who was a singer in a band got some lessons from him. Said not to drink to much dairy products so you don't have mucus buildup. Hehe...
Then they proceeded to sign all our stuff and then we hung out for a little more and took off. The band members were much more relaxed then the night before since it was their last date of the tour.
Well, I also got to speak with all the members of Fates Warning during the intermission and they were real cool. Frank and Ray were hitting on all the chicks they saw at the club, which was kinda amusing. Joe was just hangin out and Matheos and Zonders were with their wives.
After the show I had Matheos sign a few of my things and spoke a few words with him and then he was off with the rest of the Fates crew.
Overall, two nights in a row of unParalleled music!
This extra paragraph is just for you YTSEJAM people. Portnoy knows about WDAJU and he said he will try to get me some stuff from this tour such as live The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun.
We spoke about bootlegs and we both agreed that if they allowed taping at ALL their shows, there would be no bootleg market of them, but he said he couldn't get the other guys to agree, so we may still have a chance to have unlimited taping sometime in the future.
He needs shows from the first two weeks of the Awake tour and also videos from the tour! If you have stuff, e-mail me!
-The Doc
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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 94 17:45:47 EST From: "Brian J. Wherry" <WB81%LAFAYACS.bitnet@lafibm.lafayette.edu> To: <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: The name! Message-ID: <10DEC94.19184487.0024.MUSIC@LAFAYACS>
Once and for all, Derek's last name is spelled SHARINIAN. ('N', not 'D'). I talked to him for a long time after the New Haven show and askedhim because it sounded as if James said "Sheridian" during the show. S-h-a-r-i-n-i-a-n!!
Rock on!
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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 18:08:15 -0600 (CST) From: Larry G Waterfield <mulgw1@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Tom Rhodes T-shirt... Message-ID: <199412110008.AA06238@ecom4.ecn.bgu.edu>
Hey!
Have any of you guys (and girls) heard of a comedian named Tom Rhodes? He's on Comedy Central a lot, and just about anywhere else you can think of. Anyway, I was watching SAST on CC and he was on stage. He was wearing a black T-shirt. On the front it had a red heart that happened to be on fire. Flames on the top. Also, it had something light-colored wrapped around the heart, like string. Or barbed-wire. Nowhere did it say anything about Dream Theater.
I had my Images and Words ablum immediately handy and compared the two. Definately NOT the same logo. Certain things about the shirt were just not the same. But the elements are unmistakeable: a heart on fire with some stringy-thing wrapped around it.
Anyone have any ideas about this? The logo is certainly not a universal symbol; I was under the impression that it was the creation of DT. Can't remember what it represented.
Oh well, maybe Rhodes is a fan, maybe not. Just thought I'd share this.
Toodles! Glenn
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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 22:01:27 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam SERVER) Cc: bvc8995@tam2000.tamu.edu (Brian V. Cox), Subject: DT boot Discog Message-ID: <199412110301.WAA20319@pearl.cs.brandeis.edu>
Well, with finals coming up, and my procrastination reaching its peak, I decided to work on the bootleg discog for a while. This, as far as I know, has all tracks for all CDs that have been found. I am no longer including any tapes from the I&W tour on, becuase there are just too many of them. (Anyone want to start a tour date book???). Anyway, if you find any mistakes, please let me know. Also, there is a program that someone wrote for DOS which parses the discog into an easy to read format. It may be obtained from my home page in .ZIP format.
Anyway, here is the latest version of the discog. Over break, I will probably work on the format so it looks a little better and redo some of the formats...
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___ _ _ ___ _ ___ _ _ | \| >|_ /\ |\/| | |_||_ /\ | |_ | > _|_/| \|_/ \| | | | ||_/ \ | |_ | \ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dream Theater BOOTLEG LISTING Current to 12/10/94 Maintained by Michael Burstin -email mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
For info on the DT FAQ email garion@indirect.com FTP from: ftp.netcom.com /pub/dr/drkhoe/dt
Disclaimer: don't accept money for bootlegs. It's illegal. We don't.
I am no longer listing all audience audio tapes and videos available from the Images & Words tour on. The list includes any tapes from before the release of Images & Words because of their rarity.
Short List Of CDs: ------------------
A Fortune Pulled Under, 1992, LP (USA) Classics Live, 1993, CD (USA) Consciously Unreal, 1993, 2CD (Italy) The Dance of Eternity, 1993, 2CD (Italy) Dimension Shift, 1993, CD (Unknown) Images & Tour!, 1993, CD (USA) Live in Long Island (Home At Last) ptI, 1993, CD (USA) Live in Long Island (Home At Last) ptII, 1993, CD (USA) The Majesty Demos, 1986-88, CD (Italy) Runes, 1993, CD (USA) Skyway of Nightmares, 1993, CD (Germany) Unplugged, 1993, VHS (USA) Home Sweet Home, 1993, CD (Luxumburgh) Dream Out Loud, 1993, CD (Italy) Moon Bubbles, CD ??? Lords Of Sound, 1994, 2CD (Italy) Lost In The Sky, 1994 2CD (Italy) InstruMetnal, Majesty Demos Excellent Vol 1. (Live and Alive) Live Images Dance Of Eternity (NOT Dances Of Eternity) Puppies On Acid Split Cd Jag Panzer / Majesty, 1993, CD (Luxumburgh) Extended listing ---------------------------------------- Dream Theater songs (refer to list for song order) 1. A Fortune In Lies 2. Status Seeker 3. Ytse Jam 4. The Killing Hand 5. Light Fuse and Get Away 6. After Life 7. The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun ("The Death of Spark/Spock") 8. Only A Matter of Time 9. Pull Me Under 10. Another Day 11. Take The Time 12. Surrounded 13. Metropolis part 1 14. Under A Glass Moon 15. Wait For Sleep 16. Learning to Live 17. To Live Forever 18. Eve 19. A Change of Season 20. Moon Bubbles 21. Pup (also known as Puppies On Acid) 22. Bombay Vindaloo 23. Another Won 24. Your Majesty 25. A Vision 26. Two Far 27. Vital Star 28. March of the Tyrant 29. A Late Summer Rain 30. Schizophrenia 31. Cry For Freedom 32. "Resurrection of Ernie" 33. Mission: Impossible Theme 34. Golden Slumbers (The Golden Weight) 35. Don't Look Past Me 36. O Holy Night 37. Wanted: Dead or Alive (cover) 38. Freewill (cover) 39. Another Hand 40. Theme from The Simpsons 41. The Gorilla Session 42. Gates Of Babylon 43. Grab That Feel (working title for Take The Time) 44. Creep With Tonality (working title for Learning To Live) 45. Twin Peaks intro tape 46. various drum solos 47. various bass solos 48. various keyboard solos 49. various guitar solos 50. unnamed solo 51. Silent Man (hopefully this will be on the new CD) 52. Indulge In Reverie 53. Barfbag
Videos ------
Dream Theater "Unplugged": WHJY R'n'R Auction 14 December 1993 Audio curtesy of WHJY, Providence, RI Video curtesy of WNAC, Channel 64 (RI Fox affiliate) ::36,51
Compact Disc ------------
Majesty Demos (CD) CD bootleg version of origional demos ::23-28
InstruMental (CD) Labeled as "The 1987 Recordings" and has a picture of Protnoy, Moore, Petrucci and Myung. Single sheet inlay ::6,7,3,31,4,32,46,52,29,30
- Split Cd Jag Panzer / Majesty, 1993, CD (Luxumburgh) Reborn Classics 1001 ::23,24,25,26,28 + tracks from Jag Panzer Images & Tour! (USA) 1993, CD (Big Red Records #48733-DT) 1 CD Recorded from soundboard evaluation tapes (unknowingly?) provided by the band itself. Sound quality excellent. ::13,1,14,22,15,12,3,17,20,21,11,9
Home Sweet Home, Luxemborg (1993 ROCKS: 92079) Sparks Clubm 4 October 1992 Deer Park, Long Island, NY ::14,8,12,9,3,20,10,39,4
Live In Long Island: Home At Last Recorded at the Sparks Club, 4 October 1992 Deer Park, Long Island, NY (The humble place of origin of DT) (both discs sold seperatly) ::40,13,14,8,12,9,3,20,10,39,4 ::11,15,16,19,23,24,26,28
A Fortune Pulled Under (USA) 1992, LP Need a mfr. and catalog # (it was submitted) 1 LP Recorded in Paris, France, October 1992 It is VERY likely that this is a regional title, possibly a boot taken from a radio show that has been reproduced by more than one bootleg manufacturer. This is because another boot, "Dimension Shift" is nearly identical to this one, and this one is next to impossible to find. ::11,6,3,8,1,14,12,9
Classics Live (1993 REBORN CLASSICS: RC1045) Recorded at Plus 5, Ft. Lauderdale, Sat. 5 1992 It has the same cover as LATM, with text 'Classics Live' instead of LATM ::14,8,12,9,3,10,39,4,11,27
Dimension Shift Nothing known about this--seen in a magazine ad. Suspected to be the same boot as A Fortune Pulled Under. ::13,11,2,6,14,3,8,10,1,12,9
The Dance of Eternity (Italy) 1993, 2CD (Why Not? Records WOT2014/15) 2 CD's - Soundboard or AUD DAT, possibly the best DT boot available. Recorded at the Limelight, New York, March 4 1993 ::13,1,14,12,3,17,11 ::18,9,10,39,4,19,15,16
Live Images, 1994, 1CD (Germany) 1 CD Living Legend 246 Nice cover with Dream Theater stamped into the coloured. Good sound. Show is the beginning for Dances Of Eternity. Ends BEFORE A Change Of Seasons. ::13,1,14,12,11,18,9,10,4,15.
Runes (USA) 1993, CD (The Camera's Ear Productions, #9103) 1 CD Recorded in Sacramento, CA, USA, no date given. Can be distinguished by lack of good bass in the first three tracks. ::13,14,17,15,12,1,11,9,16
Consciously Unreal (Italy) 1993, 2CD Classical Shots on CD Worldwide distribution by Robespierre, Srl, Italy CD #1 - CSCD009; CD #2 - CSCD010 Tracks 1-11 recorded in Milan, Italy on 5 April 1993. LaBrie on vocals. Tracks 12-16 recorded during the Dream & Day tour, Dominici vocals. ::13,1,14,12,3,10,39,4,9,11 ::15,16,13,6,17,3,4
Live and alive, vol I and II, 1993, 2CD (Germany) PR Records, Imtrat Medienvertrieb Music (IMM) 40.90205 & 206 It is a copy of "Consciously unreal", except for the 2 last tracks that are a guitar solo and a version of "Only a matter of time" with James La Brie on vocals (probably from the 1992 Us tour). Says it is USA 89 & 92, but it is not. Aud voices heard in Italian throughout show. Has cover art by Harald Heinrichs. ::13,1,14,12,3,10,39,4,9,11 ::15,16,13,6,17,8,49
Skyway of Nightmares (UK) 1993, CD Recorded at Augsbug Rockfabrik, 7 April 1993, Germany ::13,1,14,12,3,10,9,11,15,16
Moon Bubbles 2 dics, manufacturer not listed Club Citty, Kawasaki (near Tokyo) Nov 16, 1993 ::13,14,8,12,9,3,20 ::10,39,4,11,15,16
Dream Out Loud, Italy (1993 KISS THE STONE: KTS243) Soundboard recording, radio broadcast, Buffalo, NY May 18, 1993 It has very good packaging, with a cool picture disc, and a nice band history. ::13,14,2,15,12,21,11,17,50,46,10,9,16
Lords Of Sound, Italy (1993 KISS THE STONE: KTS282/283) Soundboard recording, radio broadcast, Milwaukee, WI June 29, 1993 ::13,14,1,15,12,21,11 ::17,50,2,10,9,18,16
Puppies On Acid, 1994, CD (???) 1 CD Bondage Music 009 Same show as Lords Of Sound, single CD Audience recording, Milwaukee, June 29,1993 Great cover, with shots from the members of the band. ::13,14,1,15,12,21,11,17,46,2,10
Dance of Eternity, 1994, CD (Luxumburgh) Rocks 92111 1 CD recorded in Buffalo, May 18, 1993. This is a radio broadcast. It is a little different of "Dream out loud" because it features the full version of "Learning to live" (cut off on DOL) and "Eve"! ::13,14,2,15,17,50,46,10,9,18,16.
Excellent (Nova/ GEMA NV-09) audience recording, New York, 7/22/93 Cheap packaging, portrait band photo on front cover. Sounds like it was recorded by a distant stereo microphone at the back of the hall. Slight stereo image, even quality, massive drum sound, possible DAT recording. Deep bass notes (bass pedals?) get distorted. Concert is not same as DoL but Galactic Cowboys are credited too. Date is possibly supported by JL "on road for 10 months","N.Y". No close audience sound. ::14,12,21,11,17,49?,46,2,10,9,16
Lost In The Sky, Italy (1994 Why Not? and Metal Crash: MECD2158/59) Soundboard recording, Milan, Italy, November 15, 1994 Other sources say FM mixed with aud DAT for Under Glass Moon & March Of The Tyrant Packaging is roughly half of the size of an album sleeve, sort of like old CD longboxes. CDs fit in middle of tri-fold case. Individual pictures of band, although Myung's picture is there for himself and Petrucci. ::13,33,6,14,15,12,3,21,11 ::17,53,10,8,9,18,16
"Milan 93", 1994, 2CD (Italy) 2CD Live Storm 52593 Radio recording, Milan, Italy, November 15, 1993. This is the same as "Lost in the sky" (most Live Storm are boots of boots)
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The Majesty demos, 1986-89 (Not produced.) (tape) Members of the Band: John Petrucci (guitars) Mike Portnoy (drums) John Myung (bass) Kevin Moore (keys) Chris Collins (vocals) ::23-28
Other Demos Available: (tape) 3,4,6,7,13,19,29-38,41,42
Taped as MAJESTY: L'Amours Brooklyn 9/25/86 (1 side) 23,31,42,24,28,6 Sparks Deer Park NY 10/25/86 (1 side) 6,23,31,24,27,3,28
Taped as Dream Theater: Ritz, NYC, NY 11/14/89 (1 side) 13,6,17,3,4,8
Sundance, Bayshore, NY 11/17/90, all instrumental show 45,13,5,43,44,3,46,48,47,blues jam,3,19 Encore: Medley Of Covers: Funeral For A Friend (Elton John) Heart Of The Sunrise, Close To The Edge (Yes), Aqualund (Jethro Tull), Carry On Wayword Son (Kansas), Bohemian Rhapsody (Queen), Angry Young Man (Billy Joel), Cruise Crontrol (The Dregs), Karn Evil 9 (ELP), YYZ (Rush)
VOCALIST AUDITION TAPES: John Hendricks: 35,17 Steve Stone: 17,13 John Arch 4,35,1,The Apparition (Fates Warning, he was former singer for Fates Warning) Chris Cintron: 35,19 James LaBrie: 17(acoustic),16,11
Ritz NYC, NY (6/8/92) 45 mins 9,14,13,1,16
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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 22:05:34 -0500 (EST) From: James Bickers <jbickers@iglou.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: Fans/Material etc. etc. Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.941210220424.29314A-100000@iglou>
> Personally, I think there is a big difference between the 'netters and the > outfits that actally manufacture, package, and market concert recordings. Us > netters are doing it 'cause we love DT and are into in for the music. These > commercial bootleggers aren't doing it for the music. With even the wholesale > prices they charge to the stores that sell them, they're still making a very > comfortable margin. As JP and JLB are about this subject, I, too, would be > upset about someone taking my music and selling it. >
I have to agree with that, especially in light of the fact that a huge number of people on this list have met - and some, it seems, built friendships with - the members of DT.
My .02,
James
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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 0:23:54 -0500 (EST) From: TIM LODGE SGA/PRE-LAW/MICRO/MAC LABS <LODGE_TIM@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: DT UK LIE CD SINGLE + VINYL + FATES CD SINGLE FOR SALE! Message-ID: <941211002355.2020fc41@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU>
Hi, I have access to the following items. If anyone on the list wanted to buy this stuff from me, email me privately. I'm selling it for someone else without net access, so just make offers to my email. thanks.....
1) dream theater - LIE U.K. CD SINGLE! 1). Lie (edit) 5:00 2) Space Dye Vest 3) ****TO LIVE FOREVER**** studio version 4) Another Day (Live at the Marquee!)
2) dream theater - STRICTLY LIMITED EDITION 12" SINGLE for LII (thats LIE) includes poster edition of fanzine I&W also! 1. Lie (edit) 2. Space Dye Vest **********************3. TAKE THE TIME******* DEMO DEMO DEMO DEMO DEMO!!!
3){ Fates WArning - CD SINGLE "Pale Fire" ****SPECIAL LIMITED EDITION OF 1500 FEATURING PREVIOUSLY U{REL UNRELEASED TRAKS!!!!! 1. paLE fIRE 2. mONUMENT (EDIT) 3. we ONLY SAY goodbye (REMIX) --------------------------------------------------
sorry fr for all the line noise and lack of backspaces in this message! but if you are inr interesterd in any of this stuff. by all means email me..i'm sure it will go fast......
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