YTSEJAM Digest 614
Today's Topics:
1) ***rising power*** cd's possibly for sale
by TIM LODGE SGA/PRE-LAW/MICRO/MAC LABS <LODGE_TIM@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU>
2) Re: ***rising power*** cd's possibly for sale
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
3) Re: How to send report?
by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
4) Re: The name!
by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
5) I need old Ytsejams!!!
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
6) The New EP... an idea?
by "Douglas Slauson" <DRSLAUS@msae.cae.wisc.edu>
7) Tix 4sale/trade for 12/9 Hollywood show
by STGEORGES@aol.com
8) Frustration
by Greg <greg2@netcom.com>
9) John Petrucci
by <laferrie@bashfull.usmcs.maine.edu> (Kevin R Laferriere)
10) Space-Dye Vest
by <laferrie@bashfull.usmcs.maine.edu> (Kevin R Laferriere)
11) [NO Spoilers] The Dream Theater Adventure!
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 0:27:40 -0500 (EST)
From: TIM LODGE SGA/PRE-LAW/MICRO/MAC LABS <LODGE_TIM@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU>
To: YTSEJAM@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: ***rising power*** cd's possibly for sale
Message-ID: <941211002740.2020fc41@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU>
I have a local source who can possibly get a bunch of
Mike Portnoy's 1st band RISING POWER's CD entite entitled
POWER TO THE PEOPLE. The only thing is I'll need a minimum of
about 20 orders for it to go through. I'm not sure where
the cd's are coming from to get there, but they will probably
run like $20 + 1 or 2 for shipping. I saw a poster advertising
this cd and the 17 year old portnoy with short hair looks very
funny!!!! so anyways if you're interested in this, please email me
as this is sure to be an essential for the DT enthusiast!!!
Long live DT!!!!
Tim
lodge_tim@ccsu./
lodge_tim@ccsu.ctstateu.edu
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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 10:22:12 -0600 (CST)
From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: ***rising power*** cd's possibly for sale
Message-ID: <199412111622.KAA03641@galaxy.galstar.com>
Before we order this CD.... what does the music sound like? is it
progressive? and was this album released BEFORE he went to Berkeele?
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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 14:22:43 PST
From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: How to send report?
Message-ID: <199412112222.OAA27198@netcom13.netcom.com>
>Someone mentioned that I should send my research paper to John Petrucci
>himself. How could I do that? Please let me know because I think that it
>would be really cool! :-> I would, of course, change the guitar name mix up.
> I don't want him to think I am a Dumbass.
>
>Trey
I'm sure many people would be able to help you... but if you e-mail me
privately, I will give you an address where you can get your report to
Petrucci...
-The Doc
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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 14:24:40 PST From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: The name! Message-ID: <199412112224.OAA28556@netcom13.netcom.com>
>Once and for all, Derek's last name is spelled SHARINIAN. ('N', not >'D'). I talked to him for a long time after the New Haven show and >askedhim because it sounded as if James said "Sheridian" during the >show. S-h-a-r-i-n-i-a-n!! > >Rock on!
That's ShErinian with an E, not with an A...
hopefully you guys in the FAQ will fix it, or I will...
-The Doc
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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 10:26:10 -0500 (EST) From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: I need old Ytsejams!!! Message-ID: <199412111526.KAA24730@umbc9.umbc.edu>
I was just getting around to saving all of my old ytsejams to my home pc and I accidentally wiped out all of the ones from September this year. Do week keep them archived somewhere? Would someone be interested in mailing them to me?
************************************************************************** * Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu * * * * You're fighting the weight of the world, * * and no one can save you this time. * * Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. * * * * "Take the Time" - Dream Theater * **************************************************************************
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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 17:59:09 CST From: "Douglas Slauson" <DRSLAUS@msae.cae.wisc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: The New EP... an idea? Message-ID: <23013696B23@msae.cae.wisc.edu>
Hey all, just thought I'd share this idea I came up with this morning as I was waking up.
Wouldn't it be cool if the as of yet unwritten song for the upcoming EP was Metroplois Part II? An EP with ACoS, Eve, TLF, and Metropolis Part II would be killer, and it would definitely make 1995 a great year!
Here's to dreaming, Douglas ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Tonight you sleep in Hell... There can be only one! oooooooooooo douglass@cae.wisc.edu oooooooooooo
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Date: Sat, 3 Dec 1994 01:21:05 -0500 From: STGEORGES@aol.com To: ytsejam@bnf.com Subject: Tix 4sale/trade for 12/9 Hollywood show Message-ID: <941203012059_4506312@aol.com>
Appologies for the junk mail...
I have two Tickets to the Dream Theater / Fates Warning Show at the Palace Theater in Hollywood on Friday Dec. 9 for sale. The ticket price is $22.25 each. Will gladly accept a trade for tickets to the Dec 8 show in Santa Ana. I can't make the Friday show, but will be there in Santa Ana on Thursday.
- John
email to stgeorges@aol.com
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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 19:08:53 -0800 (PST) From: Greg <greg2@netcom.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Frustration Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9412111932.A19310-0100000@netcom16>
Sorry for this short post, but I am trying to get in touch with L. Jason Hartman <lhartml@gl.umbc.edu> about the bootlegs he mentioned previously, and all my mail is bouncing. Jason, if this is not your correct adress please send me the correct one. Greg
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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 00:35:56 -0500 From: <laferrie@bashfull.usmcs.maine.edu> (Kevin R Laferriere) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: John Petrucci Message-ID: <9412120535.AA23281@bashfull.usmcs.maine.edu>
This man in phenominal!! He plays a mean guitar!! Also, he writes about half of the songs that DT did on IAW and A. He does it all!!
--------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm Dis con nec ted... - group:'Queensryche', song:'Disconnected', CD:'Promised Land'
Spin the black circle... - group:'Pearl Jam', song:'Spin The Black Circle', CD:'Vitalogy' Look in the mirror my friend... - group:'Dream Theater', song:'The Mirror', CD:'Awake' ---------------------------------------------------------------------
For more information on Queensryche, Pearl Jam, or Dream Theater, finger laferrie@bashfull.usmcs.maine.edu
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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 00:49:52 -0500 From: <laferrie@bashfull.usmcs.maine.edu> (Kevin R Laferriere) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Space-Dye Vest Message-ID: <9412120549.AA23290@bashfull.usmcs.maine.edu>
I read that SDV was somewhat based on "A Room with a View." Is that a James Bond movie?
--------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm Dis con nec ted... - group:'Queensryche', song:'Disconnected', CD:'Promised Land'
Spin the black circle... - group:'Pearl Jam', song:'Spin The Black Circle', CD:'Vitalogy' Look in the mirror my friend... - group:'Dream Theater', song:'The Mirror', CD:'Awake' ---------------------------------------------------------------------
For more information on Queensryche, Pearl Jam, or Dream Theater, finger laferrie@bashfull.usmcs.maine.edu
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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 23:45:25 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: garion@indirect.com, mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu, bvc8995@tamu.edu Subject: [NO Spoilers] The Dream Theater Adventure! Message-ID: <199412120645.XAA10981@bud.indirect.com>
"The Dream Theater Adventure!" 12/4-12/5 1994 "The Shows" There will be _NO_ SPOILERS. Read on without fear.
WHEW!
What a weekend! DREAM THEATER RULES!
...ah. There I go. Just had to clean up the floor there, I lost control for a second. Well. This was one hell of a Dream Theater weekend, and of course, no experience this awesome is without its story!
It all started some few months ago when the tourdates listing was posted to Ytsejam. I figured I could make it to the Denver, Colorado Springs, Tucson, Tempe, and Las Vegas shows, and tape DT at their finest. As it turns out, the CS show was called off, and the Vegas show happened on a day when I had three final exams... so damnit, I only got to go to Tucson and Tempe. Still this was great!
Sunday afternoon, December 4th, it was raining. In Arizona. Hard. It was really something to see... a friend and I packed up our garb into my two-seater Chevy S-10 pickup, and hit the I-10 for Tucson from my humble home in Chandler.
110 miles of driving at 80mph (it didn't take long to get there) and we digested the Rush 2CD set "Rush 'N' Roulette '92" on the way. Justin and I were getting a bit hungry so we stopped at a Tucson Burger King. Our impression of the town and of the whole area was: dump. Sorry Tucson dwellers, but that city just sucked. It was a wreck, the streets were laid out in some god-awful way, we saw a Domino's Pizza truck slam into some old fart's Ford Taurus right in front of our eye as we waited for a light to change... needless to say, I won't be moving there.
Before the show, however, we stopped at a huge record store called PDQ records. This has to be the coolest part about Tucson. We found two Rush 12" singles and FOUR 7" 45RPM singles!! All you Tucson dwellers who didn't clean them out before should be ashamed of yourselves! :) Best of all, PDQ carries bootlegs, though I already had the Rush that they had to offer. If you're ever in Tucson, stop here. We left then for the show...
We get to some sort of excuse for a mall, find the Dillards and the Silo, and sure enough, there's the Buena Vista Theater. All the while it's raining like hell. I am sure you Seattle and New England dwellers are saying to yourselves "so what?" but to us Arizonans, it's a like a personal insult from the sky, unless it's on a day when nothing's happening. :) Don't you just LOVE self-centered attitudes and beliefs?
The Buena Vista Theater was a sad, sorry hole. No band deserved the sad fate of playing there. It was a second-run cult movie theater, the type which is mimicked in Tempe by the Valley-Art Theater. In most towns you have a theater of this type. It's an old-time movie house that's rotting away at the seams, and has been "renovated" (actually just re-opened) so as to show cultural and foreign films that nobody watches, re-runs of cult classics like Blade Runner and Annie Hall, and weekend re-runs of Heavy Metal and the Rocky Horror Picture Show. The only thing I can say for it that would be complimentary is that it has a higher capacity than Club Rio, the nice, spiffy venue Dream Theater played the next night in Tempe.
So I get to the window and sure enough, the backstage passes that C-Man set up for me are nowhere to be found. I'm not on the guest list for the promoter, for DT, for ANYONE. Naturally, I get right in their face hoping they will find someone to get me the pass.. I use the names I was given and I eventually run into a really cool guy from DT's crew, Todd, their equipment manager. I told him of my journey and he replied that C-Man hasn't been keeping up with the passes (nudge nudge) and gave me two passes out of the kindness of his pocket. Let's drink to Todd!
I get to the front door with my ticket and pass and I nearly had a heart attack right there: METAL DETECTORS!!!! Arrrrrrgh! How am I gonna tape the show if I can't get in? I considered my options.
I could hide the walkman and hope they don't detect it. Hmmm. Not likely, they're even crotch scanning the girls with the metal detector to see if they have anything hidden.
I could hide the walkman and tell 'em I have a pass and I'll be damned if they're searching me. Hmmm... nah, that won't pass. I just made a scene 10 minutes ago, no sense doing it again.
I could go in there, balls-n-glory, wearing my walkman like a normal walkman and hoping they didn't notice it was a minidisc recorder. I put the blank extra minidisc with my CDs that I was to have signed, and my friend who had my Aiwa analog stereo tape recorder put his blanks with the boots I was giving to Portnoy after the show.
We got in.
They didn't even look twice.
Let that be a lesson to all bootleggers! Just walk in with the crap in plain view and they won't even bother you. I don't know if it was some sort of security gap or whatever, but we were in. Truly, though, I don't think DT is really paying attention to this.. they know we bootleggers buy every true release they make anyway.
Hmmm... four shirts to be had. A Fates Warning long sleeve, a Dream Theater long sleeve (and a NICE one) with the eye and clock on it, a DT short sleeve with the Majesty "M" and 6:00 "Waking up the World" on it, and a DT Awake cover shirt with tourdates. I took the longsleeve DT and the short DT one with the Majesty "M" on it.. Justin took the other two. Pretty decent! Since they spotted our VIP passes, they gave us each a DT Awake sticker. My opinion of DT tour management is flying high at this point. :)
Fates and Dream Theater played excellent shows, none of the details of which I need relate here, except these few... and they are not spoilers. All the samples, lights, and related miscellany were working perfectly for the Tucson show. I don't think they missed a single cue. My tapes back up my analysis pretty well. :)
It was backstage time, when I spent 20 minutes sitting around with the other VIP people, keeping my pass in plain view, as the event staff guys herded everyone else out of the theater. Finally we were led into the DT snack room, where we enjoyed some cold Coke and munchies, and talked about how DEAF we all were!
Then.. James LaBrie walked in.
Silence.
Anyone who says this man dosen't have CHARISMA is a liar. I'm the farthest possible thing from being gay, but you could _feel_ his presence in the room... and the silence broke down into applause and whistles of encouragement. We were stunned. A lot of "great show man!" and "awesome" got kicked back and forth, and James said "Well, thanks for coming! I've got 15 minutes and a fresh Sharpie marker.. so..."
That was all the encouragement most of the people needed. It was a bit humbling at first, but we managed to regain our breath as John and Rena Petrucci walked in. John was looking a bit haggard.. tired, possibly. Rena was one sweet looking woman. Knockout blonde, good figure, I liked how her access pass just said "Rena Petrucci" on it... simple yet appropriate. :) She was wearing a leather jacket and miniskirt, and... uh... oh yeah, John, well, he was just hanging out, and eventually CD-liner-toting fans approached him and got their discs autographed.
Then my personal highlights, John Myung and Mike Portnoy came in, and the festivity was underway. I managed to sneak up near Mike where a fan was asking him the same old questions we Jammers have heard over and over. I tried to remember the long discussions on TNMS about how to approach a band member, and on Ytsejam about how to act, and decided to take the humble route.
"Hi!" he said, before I even got to him, and held out his hand. I shook it in relief and said, "Hi, it's a..uh.. real honor to meet you, I'm Mike Bahr, I wrote the FAQ listing and discography of Dream Theater for the internet. Nice to finally meet up with you!" I managed to stammer. To my immense pleasure, Mike's face lit up with recognition. "Heeey! We read that, that was great! Nice to finally put a face on the name, here (or something like that)... so I hear you're into bootlegs, right!"
Now, had I known that HE knew about WDAJU, I would have mentioned that I was doing the discs, but I didn't know it, and thus, I wasted my chance to get good recordings off the board of TOWHTSTS and LFAGA. Argh. But still! We got to talking about boots, and it became clear that he had a large collection of Rush and (of course) DT shows, but that I clearly had far, far more Rush than he had. I gave him my address so we could trade for the shows I had that he wanted. I also gave him a few bootlegs I had recorded on my mini, that I knew he would not have (since nobody did! hehe) and he dug them. Mike Portnoy does not know of any Caress of Steel tour bootlegs. dammit. :)
I asked if he was in the mood to autograph things, and he said sure! and I held out my pile o' goodies.. and I didn't know James was right behind me, looking on. Mike signed my WDADU, IAW, Japanese Awake, LATM, Dance of Eternity (!), Dream Out Loud (!!), Lost in the Sky (!!!), and, check this out, my disc that I had made only minutes earlier! hehehe. But as James saw him signing the bootlegs, he said to me (almost before I even realized he was speaking): "I'll sign the albums, but I won't sign those bootlegs, you know we really don't like them at all." His tone was rather reprimanding. So I guess it's a cross I have to bear... that the FAQ guy is on good terms with Portnoy and Myung (more on that later) and that LaBrie thinks I'm sort of a hoser. :)
James was the epitome of coolness, however, because he didn't refuse me at all but signed all four of the regular CD liners. That was QUITE cool of him, considering I essentially pissed him off just by HAVING my boots with me... (which I had brought to show Mike anyway, not to show James). I wished him well and he told me "Don't be overanxious for material by us... we aren't going to go years without a release like between the last few projects." I replied "Whatever you guys do, I'll buy every release... your music is fast becoming the soundtrack of my life." He grinned, and I guess gave me the benefit of the doubt at that point, though I may never really know. He got to the Japanese Awake CD and opened it up, and I had it in one of those 2-CD flip cases (single CD case size) with the 3-inch Eve disc, and he got a REAL kick out of it.
"Whoa, what's this! I need to remember to get one of these when we get over to Japan. [to his left] hey, Rena, take a look at this! [then to me] She's been wanting to see one of these for a while now." It occurred to me that as the lead singer of Dream Theater, couldn't he just ASK for one of the Japanese CD's from his management? I guess not! ?@!?! Rena Petrucci came over with John and they took a few minutes looking at the disc. John then wielded his pen and signed the liner, and asked if I had anything else to sign.
I introduced myself to him in the same humble way as before, and he nabbed the pile of CDs from me before I could remember to take the bootlegs and put them away! I asked him "Tired after all that playing?" He said "Nah, I never get tired from playing, I just have a cold or something." We chatted about Rush for a moment as he signed through the CDs, and then he got to Dance of Eternity, looked at me with the evil eye, and said "Ahhh... No." and handed them all back. I replied "Oh, it's okay, I can respect that." He gave me a "Well take it easy guy" and another fan grabbed his attention.
By now James and Mike were both talking to other people, so I turned around and who should be there but John Myung, with three people holding CD and cassette liners out to him. A lot of "Good show, John" and "Man, you play an awesome bass" and he pretty much answered each in his own shy way. It was soon my turn at the plate, and I was determined to cheer him up. :)
I greeted him, and introduced myself as a humble novice bassist (which I am, in a band called Scoobacca) instead of as an internet hound, and he lit right up. I asked him how the HELL he PLAYS that five-finger tapping part of Metropolis, and he replied "well, I just play it so often, been playing it since we started out of Berklee, and I got used to it." We chatted a bit about other bassists, and he's a pretty deep fan of Lee and Sheehan, and he also said he liked Les Claypool a bit. I asked him for any tips he had to offer, and it was mainly to develop my own style, that I could learn fundamentals and such but that a style has to be my own, and as such, to pay deep attention to the technicalities when taking lessons, but not to "playing technique" or to methods of tapping and fretting unless I was comfortable with them.
Like a perfect fool (nobody's perfect, of course) I had still not taken the bootlegs out of the CD pile when I handed it to John. He got to the first boot, which was LITS now (the pile got reversed somewhere) and said with a bit of a chuckle, "What's _this_?? A bootleg or something?" It was a friendly question, though, not a condemnation like that of Petrucci and LaBrie and so I replied "Yeah, but if you don't want to sign it, I understand." And he basically replied "What the hell, this'll be fun... I see Mike signed this, I'll have to out-do him here..." So now on my bootleg case liners, I have four regular Portnoy signatures, and four GIGANTIC John Myung signatures. It looks pretty funny!
Derek didn't show up. Sort of a bummer, as I really wanted to chat with him and find out how he was doing and what he was like... everyone else on the Ytsejam list has said so much about him.
All that said and done, and NOBODY among the fans backstage saying they were from the list (if any of you fools from Tucson were there, I was the guy in the Counterparts hat and DT flaming heart shirt, with a beard, standing near Portnoy most of the time), Justin and I left the theater in a HEAVY downpour. Careful to shield our booty from the rain, we climbed into my Chevy S-10 and hit the highway.
Two hours later (heavy rain, gotta go slow) and after listening to most of the Dream Theater concert from a few hours earlier all over again, I pulled into my home, tired and dirty, it was 2AM and I crashed like a airliner right into bed. Work at 8:30am in the morning! Arrrrrrgh!
Work happened.
I left work at about 4pm, plenty of time to catch a nap, get some chow, gather 11 of my closest acquaintances, and head over to Club Rio in nearby Tempe, AZ, about ten miles from my home. Got to the show and the line was AROUND THE BUILDING... the whole venue! This was gonna be packed!
I took my own suggestion this time, and walked in with my walkman on my belt, phones in ears, ticket in hand. I got in without a hitch, and went to the Will Call window just to see if perhaps C-Man's passes that weren't there for me in Tucson would be there in Tempe. No go. And no sense looking for Todd again... he wouldn't have gone so far as to let us freeload TWICE, internet or NO internet! :)
Still no spoilers. I noticed before DT came on that they played the same sequence of music as before the last show... probably one of Mike's compilation tapes. It had Galactic Cowboys' "No Problems", Queensryche's "Last Time in Paris", Rush's "The Analog Kid", Yes' "The Calling", and Alice in Chains' "Rooster", before the lights went down. Great songs!
Dream Theater had CONSTANT problems with this set. None of the samples worked except the "This Is Not Reality" from Voices, so I will be using that for the CD title. :) There were bodies jammed into the club to the bursting point... NO room whatsoever, had a bit of a hard time protecting the walkman in this one. Saw Brian Steele (though at the time I didn't realize who it was) filming from the side pillar, and I was in the middle of the floor, only ten feet or so from the band. (For Tucson, I had been in the FOSB area. For the uninitiated, that means Front Of Sound Board, or "the sweetest sound spot" in the hall, usually.) Derek's keyboard tones kept getting fucked up, and we would hear that dull organic sound, which was on the Awake album in the songs like 6:00 and Erotomania, in songs such as Another Day which needed a totally different kind of sound. The crowd still sang every word they knew, and each song earned a blast of applause.
I got to see the full light show this time, which is phenomenal.. I definitely want some video from this tour. :)
The disc didn't come out quite as good, but it passes. The concert ended with a happy sigh of relief and a grin of supreme approval from me and my entourage, and I left for home and landed with a THUD on the ole' loose- springy mattress. I haven't "woke up" yet, I don't think.
All in all... not only were Dream Theater awesome musicians, but they were fantastic people to meet, and I wish them all the best as I head into 1995 wide awake with my eyes on the approaching horizon.
-Mike Bahr garion@indirect.com Your friendly neighborhood FAQL and discography writer for Dream Theater
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