YTSEJAM Digest 622
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Yes
by Mozo21@aol.com
2) Re: One Dream Theater
by Mozo21@aol.com
3) Dixie Dregs
by Bill Polymenakos <Bill_Polymenakos%notes@sb.com>
4) Re: YES
by Jeff "Jeffy" Seifert <seifert@math.tulane.edu>
5) I&W & Awake
by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
6) Re: European dates
by PROGnosis1@aol.com
7) Public Service Announcement
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
8) DT Chicago boot?
by anthrax@interaccess.com (Carl Sylvester)
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Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 08:05:12 -0500
From: Mozo21@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Yes
Message-ID: <941219080508_1768931@aol.com>
<<<Well, I got flamed in alt.music.yes for daring to say that DT was better
than Yes, but maybe I'll find a more sympathetic ear here :)>>>
Stating likes and dislikes is okay, but any statement that band A is 'better'
than band B deserves to get flamed.
<<<I don't like Close to the Edge. I know, it's heretical for a Yes fan,
but it's true. I find the album to lack direction. It goes all over the
place, sure it's progressive, but it's not "rock". It just doesn't seem
to flow from one idea to another, but it plods, changes. plods,
changes... This is speaking of the song, not the album as a whole. I
like And You and I, but feel similarly about SIberian Khatru as I do
about CTTE.>>>
A valid point. If it's direction that you're looking for, check out "Gates Of
Delirium" from the Relayer album.
<<< It's sort of the epitome of what people refer to as the
"pretentious musical masturbation" of prog music. I listen to songs like
Metropolis, LtL or AMBI, and I feel like I've gone somewhere. I don't
get that feeling from CTTE.>>>
It depends on the partner, but sometimes masturbation is the way to go. I'll
take Yes masturbating over less talented bands any day (pun intended).
<<I do, however, love Fragile. I think that's their best work. I also
like the new Rabin work, so that automatically brands me as a Yes heretic.>>
Fragile is on the bottom of my list cause it's disjointed and, umm, lacks
direction :)
<<<I think that Endless Dream is better than some of their older stuff,
too.>>>
It's okay, but the last 5 minutes seem to go on forever.
Andy
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Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 08:09:38 -0500
From: Mozo21@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: One Dream Theater
Message-ID: <941219080905_1771583@aol.com>
<<<I was reading the Village Voice, and what should I come across but an ad
for The Sisters Karamazov, an off-broadway play. What struck me as
interesting (and why I'm telling all of you this story) is the location
of the playhouse:
"One Dream Theater - 232 West Broadway (Enter on N. Moore Street)>>>
I almost got duped last week cause I saw an ad that went a little like this.
Thursday, Dec. 8
A Benefit For
One
Dream Theater
with
October Project
At first it looked like Dream Theater was playing at this benefit, but
luckily....
1- It was at Wetlands and why would DT play there??
2- Why would they play with October Project??
3- I'm on Ytsejam, and I knew the tour was still going till at least the
10th. :)
After I saw the ad, a friend called me up to tell me that DT was playing
Wetlands :) :) So, Someone was fooled.
I didn't know it was on N. Moore street though. You sure it isn't K. Moore
street?
Andy
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Date: 19 Dec 94 11:51:07 ES
From: Bill Polymenakos <Bill_Polymenakos%notes@sb.com>
To: ytsejam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Dixie Dregs
Message-ID: <9412192120.AA0183@pho018.sb.com>
Does anyone have a complete Dixie Dregs discography? I just picked up "Full
Circle" and was blown away. I want more! Problem is most local stores only
have a few albums and there seems to be a big gap in the dates during the
80's. Did the band stop making albums during this time (break up?) or are my
local stores just lacking (a definite possibility)? If anyone has info please
send it to me via email.
Thanks,
Bill
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Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 13:00:08 -0600 (CST)
From: Jeff "Jeffy" Seifert <seifert@math.tulane.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YES
Message-ID: <199412191900.NAA13316@bach.math.tulane.edu>
> Well, I like DT, and can't stand Yes...not that I find anything wrong
> with their music, but the singing irritates the hell out of me. Just a
> personal taste thing,
> but I am really turned off by Jon Anderson's voice, and find it very
> difficult to listen to. To me it sounds like a cross between Sting and
> Alvin and the chipmonks, neither of which have ever impressed me.
That's why I've always thought that the band name "Yes" was short
for "Yes, We Need a New Lead Singer".
(no flames please, I'm a big Yes fan myself, but I can understand why
people would get annoyed by Jon Anderson's voice. It's probably the
same reason why I'm annoyed by the lead singer from Green Day, but
alas, they don't have the music to overcome their deficiencies like
Yes does.)
-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ jeff seifert, purveyor of mathematics seifert@math.tulane.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 12:45:34 PST From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: I&W & Awake Message-ID: <199412192045.MAA03528@netcom11.netcom.com>
Now that we've all had time to digest Awake...
How do you think it compares to I&W?
Maybe even WDADU?
-The Doc
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Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 21:57:11 -0500 From: PROGnosis1@aol.com To: C.J.Oltmans@research.ptt.nl Subject: Re: European dates Message-ID: <941219215707_2420072@aol.com>
Okay, you asked for 'em! You got 'em!!;-)
Dream Theater-Europe '95
February: 02 GER Bielefeld, PC 69 03 GER Furth, Stadthalle 04 GER Munich, Terminal 1 06 GER Ludwigsburg, Forum 07 GER Leipzig, Auensee 08 GER Hannover, Music Hall 10 GER Offenback, Stadthalle 11 GER Dusseldorf, Philipshalle 13 BEL Gent, Vooruit 14 HOL Utrecht, Musikcentrum 15 HOL Utrecht, Musikcentrum 17 DEN Copenhagen, Aleexandra 18 SWE Malmo, KB 19 NOR Oslo, Rockefeller 20 SWE Stockholm, Cirkus 22 FIN Helsinki, Tavastia 25 GER Rendsburg, Nordmarkhallee 26 GER Berlin, Huxleys Neue Welt 27 GER Bremen, Aladin
March 01 GER Hamburg, Docks 02 GER Hamburg, Docks (option) 04 AUS Wels, Alter Schlachthof 06 ITA Rome, Teatro Tenda A Strisse 07 ITA Milan, Palasesto 08 SWI Zurich, Volkshaus 10 SPA Vittorio, El Elefante Blanco 11 SPA Madrid, Sala Canciller II 13 FRA Paris, Elysee Montmartre 15 SCO Glasgow, Garage 16 IRE Belfast, The Limelight 17 IRE Dublin, Tivoli 19 ENG Manchester, University 20 ENG Nottignham, Rock City 21 ENG London, Forum
Hope this help!!
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Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 23:17:37 -0500 (EST) From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Public Service Announcement Message-ID: <199412200417.XAA01020@umbc9.umbc.edu>
I just thought that I would leave a little infomative message for all of my fellow tape trades on the Ytsejam. I'm sure some of you are aware of this but there may be others that are not.
DO NOT USE HIGH SPEED DUBBING TO COPY TAPES!!!!!!!!!!!! (if you are at all concerned about quality, that is)
Please don't ask me exactly why. Once I posted a question about this on one of the audio newsgroups where all the techies hang out. The explanation is something like this.
When the tape spins twice as fast, it doubles the frequencies that the tape is sending out. Say the max what 20,000hz (or whatever the max is) and when doubled it would be 40,000. When you are trying to put that on the second tape, you loose alot of the upper freq range because the tape you are putting it on can also only handle up 20,000.
I know that this is probably not the exact explanation but it is something along this line. Please don't flame me on this, its just what I have heard and tested for myself. I compared normal speed copies and hi-speed dubs and its easy to tell the difference.
So please don't use hi-speed dub, especially when trading with others. You may not care for your own tapes but others will appreciate the higher quality.
Thanks for reading!
Also, anyone know where I can get ahold of the CiaW single or the Lie single with To Live Forever? cdeurope.com has something called a Lie -3 track- single. I guess one of those tracks would be TLF but they don't tell you track listings and I can't really gamble $12.95 right now.... If anyone checks into it, please let me (us) know. Thanks!
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Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 23:46:16 -0600 From: anthrax@interaccess.com (Carl Sylvester) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: DT Chicago boot? Message-ID: <199412200543.XAA11689@home.interaccess.com>
>hmm..they played Chicago on Nov. 5, 1994, but i dont know they >made a bootleg of it or not (the fans.). > >send a message to "ytsejam@arastar.com" with the question >and i'm sure someone will reply to you.
I was refered to you...
I am looking for the above Dream Theater show. I collect several other bands (I know NOTHING about DT, I'm just looking for a friend...) and I'd be willing to buy or trade... Do you know if anyone was taping that night?
Thanks...
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