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YTSEJAM digest 305/gif site (ytsejam@bnf.com)
Re: Balls and chunck?? (William T Bajzek <wb2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>)
Re: Tshirts! (nbradley@ua.d.umn.edu)
Re:Ytsejam List T-Shirts? (zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill))
"To Live Forever" guitar lick & Beatles (Randy Haskin <strega@u.washington.edu>)
More on t-shirts (nbradley@ua.d.umn.edu)
Pictures (Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>)
t-shirts (kryt@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Krysten DeBroka))
T-shirts (JARGON JONATHAN DAVID <jargon@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>)
DT pictures (Brent Phillips <panther@cayenne.lcs.mit.edu>)
RE: WD&DU re-release (airdance@aol.com)
Pictures (Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>)
Re: Tshirt quotes ("Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>)
T-Shirts.... (Jason Hough <jason@jester.cts.com>)
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 13:39:00 +0000
From: ytsejam@bnf.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 305/gif site
Contents:
Only a Matter of Time (svanhooser@aol.com)
I WANT OFF! (Ryan M Olshavsky <ro25+@andrew.cmu.edu>)
I WANT OFF! (Ryan M Olshavsky <ro25+@andrew.cmu.edu>)
DT Images (no words, though) (Brent Phillips <panther@cayenne.lcs.mit.edu>)
Re: Shirts? (WE WERE JUST HAVING FUN <97WISINSKI@alma.edu>)
Re: Only a Matter of Time (Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>)
oh my god (Stephen Bajzek <sb7h+@andrew.cmu.edu>)
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Date: Sat, 22 Jan 94 15:41:37 EST
From: svanhooser@aol.com
Subject: Only a Matter of Time
Which CD import has the best version of Only a Matter of Time on it? I plan
to get Live in Long Island, but I don't know if that is the best version....
Any suggestions?
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Date: Sat, 22 Jan 1994 16:02:48 -0500 (EST)
From: Ryan M Olshavsky <ro25+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: I WANT OFF!
I WANT OFF THIS LIST! And I can't seem to get anyone's attention.
Please remove my name from the list assoon as possible. Thank you.
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Date: Sat, 22 Jan 1994 16:11:19 -0500 (EST)
From: Ryan M Olshavsky <ro25+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: I WANT OFF!
Hi, I can't seem to figure out how to get my name taken off this list.
If someone could help me out I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
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Ryan M. Olshavsky
ro25@andrew.cmu.edu
"Life's a bummer when you're a hummer."
"By this time my lungs were aching for air."
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Date: Sat, 22 Jan 1994 16:15:01 -0500
From: Brent Phillips <panther@cayenne.lcs.mit.edu>
Subject: DT Images (no words, though)
OK, I grabbed some frames out of "Live in Tokyo" and made some gifs.
They're not perfect, but it's the best I can do. I stuck them in the
ftp.uwp.edu archives in the directory /pub/incoming/pictures; the file
names are as follows:
johnp.gif
dt.gif
flamingheart.gif
james.gif
kevin1.gif
mike2.gif
tttvid.gif
So, check it out and let me know what you think! I've got a few more
that I'll put there soon - I didn't want to piss off the archive
people by dumping several megs of gifs on them all at once.
Does anyone know how I'm supposed to let them know that these are all
Dream Theater gifs that should be all be put in the same directory?
- Brent
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Date: Sat, 22 Jan 1994 18:20:32 -0500 (EST)
From: WE WERE JUST HAVING FUN <97WISINSKI@alma.edu>
Subject: Re: Shirts?
i just started paying attention to this shirt problem. are you guys looking
for Dt shirts? there is a store right by school here that has the heart
tangled in thorns on the front and i don't remeber whats on the back. if andy
one wants more info please feel free to write.
later
steve
97wisinski@alma.edu
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Date: Sat, 22 Jan 94 16:43:09 MST
From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
Subject: Re: Only a Matter of Time
> Which CD import has the best version of Only a Matter of Time on it? I plan
> to get Live in Long Island, but I don't know if that is the best version....
> Any suggestions?
It's either Skyway of Nightmares or Runes I do believe. Dimension
Shift/A Fortune Pulled Under were supposed to have it but the dealer I go
through says Rockdreams S.A.R.L and Kiss The Stone, respectively, no
longer print those CDs. If all else fails, there's a bootleg from The
Bayou in Washington DC goin round that has it, at slightly lower quality.
Mike/garion@indirect.com
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Date: Sat, 22 Jan 1994 23:44:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Stephen Bajzek <sb7h+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: oh my god
I just got a tape of a live show in New York (thanks Shaun!) and there
are these two bass solos, one in Metropolis and one in Ytse Jam, that I
hadn't really watched before. I mean, I'd heard them before, and I knew
they must be difficult to play, but I had never actually watched Myung's
hands during those parts. Oh my god.
It's probably just a matter of time before some socialist pig decides
that it's not fair for one band to have such a monopoly on talent, but
until then I don't think there'll be any match for DT. And the thing is,
I knew Myung was a bass god *before* I saw this, and I had no clue...wow
Add that to the key god, the drum god, and the guitar god...god...
dazed,
Steve
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 15:00:51 -0500 (EST)
From: William T Bajzek <wb2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Balls and chunck??
"Balls and Chunk is where its at" is what Portnoy said on LIT when
talking about Another Day and MTV
Bill Bajzek
wb2a@andrew.cmu.edu
aq617@yfn.ysu.edu
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 14:07:17 -0600 (CST)
From: nbradley@ua.d.umn.edu
Subject: Re: Tshirts!
DT fans,
> I love the Idea of tshirts! But please make them colorful enough. I
> dont like black and white tshirts. And I dont know about the rest of you,
I agree here !!!
> but Im sick of music tshirts being on black T's. I have two drawerfuls of
> black T's with band stuff on them, I love the bands, but the black is so damn
> dull and depressing. A red or white would be nice.
I think ash would be excellent. Ash is a good color/texture and goes with
just about anything.
> As for Ideas.... The majesty logo would be cool with the flaming
> heart, and since dream theater seems to like gothic stuff, a couple of gothic
> looking columns would be neat.
> As for sayings, the obvious stuff comes to mind....
> "Here before me is my soul, I'm learning to Live."
> "Pull me under, I'm not afraid"
> "I am the killing hand"
> "You draw the bottom line with a dollar sign"
> "Let light surround you"
> "Find all you need in your mind, if you take the time."
>
> Personally Im partial to the surrounded quote, since its my favorite
> DT song.
>
> +Michael
>
These are good suggestions, I am also partial to "Let light surround
you" It is a positive saying, and projects warmth. An idea of a
graphic for this saying could be a siloute (sp?) on a bright back
ground. The siloute could be a band member.
Some one should find out the freasiblity of economicly producing
these shirts.
How many people are truly interested?
How much people are willing to pay?
Anything under $15 they really arn't interested.
Personally I am willing to pay up to a max of $25 for an
EXCELLENT quality DT t-Shirt. I hope the price would be around
$20.
Well that is my input on this subject,
-- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Nathan I Bradley 1320 Stadium Dr. G106 Duluth, MN 55812-2405 nbradley@ub.d.umn.edu 726-7720 ============================================================================------------------------------
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 17:21:11 PST From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) Subject: Re:Ytsejam List T-Shirts?
How about including the "Adesso perso la vista..." etc. quote plus the translation below it. Maybye on a long sleeve shirt with a hood on the back. RTL Metallica shirts like this are really cool.
Zach
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 18:27:22 -0800 (PST) From: Randy Haskin <strega@u.washington.edu> Subject: "To Live Forever" guitar lick & Beatles
>Has ANYONEelse noticed the guitar bit near the end of >"Forever" that sounds....vaguely familiar to we Beatles fans out >here? >Tell me its NOT just me.....
Actually, yes! I made a tape dub of the LIT video, and I was listening to it in the car with my older brother. When the solo section after TLF came on, he asked something to the effect that was this a beatles live recording. I said no, of course, and he maintained that that guitar part is exectly like a Beatles riff. Can anyone else help?
>Just got hold of all of the above (thanks again, Randy H!)
No problem!
Randy Haskin strega@u.washington.edu
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 20:54:08 -0600 (CST) From: nbradley@ua.d.umn.edu Subject: More on t-shirts
DT fans,
contrary to Lee's proposal I believe the best design for the t-shirt is a small emblem on front (left breast), and larger graphic on back. I agree it should not be black, I believe ASH is the best color. I've a few very good ash t-shirts. Ash make colors stand out well, and it doesn't dirty as quickly as white (you won't have to wash it as much).
In regaards to voting, the sooner the better, if someone could start compling a list of the different options ie color -> black, red, white, ash... sayings, graphics, basic design layout, # people interested, how much they will pay -> up to $15, up to $20, up to $25, etc. any other categories? Then take a vote.
-- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Nathan I Bradley 1320 Stadium Dr. G106 Duluth, MN 55812-2405 nbradley@ub.d.umn.edu 726-7720 ============================================================================
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 22:05:28 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> Subject: Pictures
Hi there. i just wanted to say that I have not had any problems connectiong to the FTP site with the pictures. I read about them being posted and instantly ^Zed out of reading and went to FTP the pictures, and got right in. This was at 9:45PM (Eastern Time) so I am not sure where the problems logging in are... I even got decent transfer rates. Just thought that I would mention it.
Also, as far as what Jason Hartman said about DT being picked for all of those awards, looks like some people are actually discovering what we have known for quite a while. :)
-- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | I was told there's a miricle for each day that I try | | I was told there's a new love that's born for each one that has died | | I was told there'd be no one to call on when I feel alone and afraid | | I was told if you dream of the next world | | You'll find yourself swimming in a lake of fire | | Dream Theater Metropolis (part 1) Images and Words | | Michael Burstin Brandeis University | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Let's Go Pens Let's Go Pens Lets Go Pens Let's Go Pens | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ For info on Dream Theater, some Steven Wright jokes, the master list of pickup lines, a revised history of the world, a few blond jokes: finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu >mikeb.finger.file
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 22:43:48 EST From: kryt@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Krysten DeBroka) Subject: t-shirts
> > Here's my $0.02 on the T-shirt design for the vote: > > 1. White --- I've got enough black T's already > 2. Have flaming heart on front
I know that the flaming heart is "the" symbol of Dream Theater, but i think we should thinkof something more original since the heart already appears on the Dream Theater concert T's (one of which I happen to own, and would rather not have another with the same design).
> 3. Have quote on back --- my choice is "You can find all you > need in your mind, if you take the time." (in black)
I still like the "Surrounded" quote better :)
> 4. Have majesty logo also on the back below qoute (in red or > blue) > > Whatever the design, there should be a graphic on front, quote on back. > Also, the sooner the voting is done and a design is finalized, the better. > > -Lee
i agree, lets get this thing finalized... someone has to decide sooner or later!
---Krysten
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 21:13:38 -0700 (MST) From: JARGON JONATHAN DAVID <jargon@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> Subject: T-shirts
>I think ash would be excellent. Ash is a good color/texture and goes with >just about anything.
> These are good suggestions, I am also partial to "Let light surround > you" It is a positive saying, and projects warmth. An idea of a > graphic for this saying could be a siloute (sp?) on a bright back > ground. The siloute could be a band member.
> Some one should find out the freasiblity of economicly producing > these shirts. > How many people are truly interested? > How much people are willing to pay? > Anything under $15 they really arn't interested.
> Personally I am willing to pay up to a max of $25 for an > EXCELLENT quality DT t-Shirt. I hope the price would be around > $20.
I think the ash idea and the sillouette (sp?? I think there's an "h" in there somewhere), with the "Let light surround you" quote is *awesome* :). I would be willing to pay $20 or so for that puppy! White seems kind of bland, and I am tired of black T's also. Keep coming up with the great ideas....Oh, actually, I have one of my own... I like the concept that I just replied to, and ash would be a cool color, but I would also not mind a dark blue or green shirt that looks somewhat like marble or something. I don't know if that's possible, though. Keep 'dreaming'....
_____________________________________________________________________________ JARGON@UCSU.COLORADO.EDU
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think they'll hate you.
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 23:48:41 -0500 From: Brent Phillips <panther@cayenne.lcs.mit.edu> Subject: DT pictures
Since the pictures seem to have disappeared from the ftp.uwp.edu archives, I've put the Dream Theater images in the archive for my research group. They'll be there until we need the disk space for something else, so get 'em while they're hot! The ftp site is "tns.lcs.mit.edu"; the directory that the pictures are in is "pub/panther/dream_theater". (If you'd like you can also grab copies of our research papers and such...)
Enjoy,
- Brent
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 23:54:12 EST From: airdance@aol.com Subject: RE: WD&DU re-release
ASILVERM@umiami.ir.miami.edu said:
> I've been told by members of the band to not expect a rerelease of When > Dream And Day Unite, since it's on a different label and would involve > massive legal hassle.
That's what Mike Portnoy told me also, near the beginning of their US tour, but when DT swung back around to southern CA for another show in June of '93, he then told me that Atco had actually begun the legal process of trying to wrangle the master tapes from Mechanic so that they could re-release WD&DU. He still wasn't very optimistic about the possibility of things actually working out and groaned about the legal red tape that was no doubt about to ensue (Mechanic is apparently being *extremely* uncooperative), but at least Atco seems to be serious about re-releasing the album. They would *have* to be considering the kind of monumental legal hassles that often come with obtaining rights to master tapes. Let's just hope it works out.
Jennifer Albert
p.terrell@genie.geis.com air dance@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 23:54:55 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> Subject: Pictures
Hello there. I just wanted to say thanks to whoever uploaded the pictures. My only question is what was the source for the flaming heart... was it the CD cover. The reason that I am asking is that I zoomed in on it, and noticed something at the bottom of the heart, so I lightned it up by 20%, and I see this:
D 101192
Anyone know what this means... is it something about release date, or CD number, or is it something else. Just wondering. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | I was told there's a miricle for each day that I try | | I was told there's a new love that's born for each one that has died | | I was told there'd be no one to call on when I feel alone and afraid | | I was told if you dream of the next world | | You'll find yourself swimming in a lake of fire | | Dream Theater Metropolis (part 1) Images and Words | | Michael Burstin Brandeis University | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Let's Go Pens Let's Go Pens Lets Go Pens Let's Go Pens | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ For info on Dream Theater, some Steven Wright jokes, the master list of pickup lines, a revised history of the world, a few blond jokes: finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu >mikeb.finger.file
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 21:51:21 -0800 (PST) From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com> Subject: Re: Tshirt quotes
I'd vote for a "Surrounded" quote, too.... I like the idea of a t-shirt for the list; I recently got my Rush/NMS digest shirt and it made a big splash at the show last weekend; must've had a dozen people ask about it.....
-- Paul W. Cashman, vanyel@crl.com Rush Dream Theater Queensryche ------------------------------- Metallica Hawkwind Enya Ministry The Sisters of Mercy Dead Can Dance Blue Oyster Cult Muthas Day Out ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 21:03:44 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Hough <jason@jester.cts.com> Subject: T-Shirts....
Ok, here's the way things are looking so far:
The shirt would be in both white and ash. You get to choose your own. Black has basically been voted down. I agree with a lot of you, i have way to many black concert shirts. Also, they wash out to easily, etc etc.
FRONT:
Flaming heart (red) w/barbed wire (black) on front left breast. Warning: This may not be feasible because of cost/color limitations. I'm looking into it. Might have to up the price slightly if we want it to look really good.
BACK:
Large Magesty logo with quote "Let the light surround you..." underneath. (logo probably in Red or Black, blue doesnt really work). The quote would look cool in glow-in-the-dark with black outline. We did glow color on one of the Marillion shirts, and although we were skeptical, I assure you it comes out very nice. And because of the nature of the quote, I think it would be a really cool effect. Thoughts? Otherwise black quote.
Underneath the quote would be the words "Dream Theater" and in small text under that would be "Ytsejam@bnf.com - The Internet Mailing List".
Also, I was thinking it might be cool to have the Majesty logo be made up of all our internet addresses... thoughts? flames? Could be a cool effect. :D BTW, we currently have 290 people on the list. Not bad!
Note: I could easily post a gif for ftp of what they would look like before we get them made. So don't fret if you aren't sure.
Let me know! I can't cater to everyone's request, so unless just about everyone on the list objects, place your orders. I'll find out about the feasability of the front logo and we need to "vote" on the Majesty Logo idea.
Thanks!
Jason ytsejam-owner@bnf.com
-----------------------------) Jason Hough - jason@jester.cts.com Nextmail is fine / Sausage 1000 choice-mail(tm) preferred "I'm ashes on the water now, somewhere far away..." -Marillion (-----------------------------
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