YTSEJAM digest 420

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Date: Thu Jun 09 1994 - 17:37:03 EDT

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    Contents:
    Re: new stuff? (Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>)
    Fates Warning (Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver>)
    CD Set for trade (James=Utz%Mech%PCPD=Hou@bangate.compaq.com)
    Re: DT new release (fwd) (Geoff Stephens <geoff@bga.com>)
    DT Boots (Greg Picklesimer <gregp@mudd>)
    Re: pup? new album?Fates Warning! (thoward@math.gatech.edu (Tim Howard))
    Re: YTSEJAM digest 418 (khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson))
    Re: YTSEJAM digest 418 (Christopher Taylor Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>)
    Re: DT Boots (Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>)
    FW new CD (Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>)
    Re: DT Boots (zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill))
    Re: DT Boots (lab_helmts@vesper.emcmt.edu)
    previous issue stuff. (hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>)
    Thoughts on "Lost in the Sky" (hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>)

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    Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 02:50:55 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
    Subject: Re: new stuff?

    Excerpts from mail: 7-Jun-94 new stuff? by Art Hung@alpha.wright.ed
    > Hi! I'm a new subscriber. I was introduced to DT by a buddy who lent me
    > I&W and WDDU. I don't care too much for the old singer's voice, but the
    > new guy is great! I was wondering if anyone could point me towards some
    > of their longer, more instrumental pieces. Total instrumentals would be
    > great, but songs with big instrumental passages would also be okay.
    >

    Well, you've heard both of their studio albums...so I would suggest
    finding Live at the Marquee (import) for Bombay Vindaloo, a 7-minute
    improvised instrumental. Brilliant. Also, you might want to pick up the
    video, Live in Tokyo...there's a great instrumental on that at the end
    of "To Live Forever." Mainly a guitar solo, but the other instruments
    are there too...Beyond that, buy some bootlegs...Dance of Eternity
    features A Change of Seasons, with a lot of long instrumental
    passages...it's an amazing song.

    max

    That's not a knife...

    p.s. I need a drummer, bad. Mail me for info.

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    Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 08:45:27 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver>
    Subject: Fates Warning

    If you liked perfect Symmmetry, then pick up No Exit and
    Parallels. They are in the same vein and have the same
    great singer.

    Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com
    "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater
    "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files

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    Date: Wed, 8 Jun 94 07:44:06 CDT
    From: James=Utz%Mech%PCPD=Hou@bangate.compaq.com
    Subject: CD Set for trade

    Hello,
            I have an extra "Lords of Sound" 2 CD Set that I would like to trade
    for any other 2 CD's on this list:

      Dream Theater "Classics Live"
      Dream Theater "Dimension Shift"
      Dream Theater "Images & Tour!"
      Dream Theater "Live In Long Island Pt. I" \
      Dream Theater "Live In Long Island Pt. II" / (prefer to get as 2 CD set)
      Dream Theater "Lost In The Sky" (2 CD set, Metal Crash MECD 2158/59)
      Dream Theater "The Majesty Demos 1986-88"
      Dream Theater "Moon Bubbles" (2 CD set? Boxed set?)
      Dream Theater "Puppies On Acid"
      Dream Theater "Runes"

    If you're interested, please reply to:

    James=Utz%Mech%PCPD=Hou@bangate.compaq.com

    Thanks,
    James

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    Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 09:11:36 -0500 (CDT)
    From: Geoff Stephens <geoff@bga.com>
    Subject: Re: DT new release (fwd)

    Well I'm new to this list but I was just reading the faq in alt.music.dt
    and it said the release date would be around August 15. This may e off
    but that's what it said...

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    Date: Wed, 8 Jun 94 09:33:07 MDT
    From: Greg Picklesimer <gregp@mudd>
    Subject: DT Boots

    After several long months of basement remodelling, I plan to reward myself
    by getting some boots, including DT, so I thought I would ask for some
    opinions about what's available.

    The FAQ in the DT archives says The Dance of Eternity is "easily the best DT
    boot available". Is this a widely held opinion or just Michael Burstin's ?

    I also assume that any of the soundboard recordings are of decent quality.
    Any comments about that?

    Are there any to avoid ?

    I would welcome any comments, as I'd prefer to get the best I can for the
    price. Thanks.

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    Date: Wed, 8 Jun 94 14:36:20 EDT
    From: thoward@math.gatech.edu (Tim Howard)
    Subject: Re: pup? new album?Fates Warning!

    Try "Parallels" -- it's the only Fates Warning album I've heard (so far)
    and it's great. It was produced by Terry Brown , ., who r
    produced Rush's first slew of albums.

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    Date: Wed, 8 Jun 94 13:24:08 MDT
    From: khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson)
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 418

    RE: Fates Warning:

    Get "Parallels" next, that was their last album. (They are working
    on one now though...) It's a lot like Queensryche.
    Then, find "No Exit" which is amazing... Anything before that has
    a different singer, and the lyrics are just plain stupid.

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    Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 19:26:46 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Christopher Taylor Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 418

    Just to reinforce what evberyone else has said about Fates,

    I have Guardian, No Exit, Perf. Sym. and Parallels. Guardian is okay if
    you like pseudo-fantasy type lyrics (I do get in the mood from time to time)
    The other 3 are great. I've got Symmetry on now, so I guess there's
    Nothing Left to Say...

         ~Chris

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    Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 22:50:05 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
    Subject: Re: DT Boots

    Excerpts from mail: 8-Jun-94 DT Boots by Greg Picklesimer@mudd
    > The FAQ in the DT archives says The Dance of Eternity is "easily the best DT
    > boot available". Is this a widely held opinion or just Michael Burstin's ?
    >

    Probably widely held...It's not the best performance, but the sound
    quality is excellent and it is the best available recording of A Change
    of Seasons, which is a must-have for any DT fan....so while it might not
    be the "best" necessarily, if you were only going to get one this is the
    one to have...

    max

    That's not a knife...

    p.s. I need a drummer, bad. Mail me for info.

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    Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 23:35:31 -0500 (EDT)
    From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
    Subject: FW new CD

    I just read this info on AOL... It was on their equivalent of the
    usenet boards... Fates Warning's new CD called "Inside Out" will be
    released on July 26th... Again, as with any AOL info that I post
    here, I am not sure about accuracy... Just passing the news along...

    -- 
    +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
    |		   This world is spinning around me		       |
    |		  This world is spinning without me		       |
    |		    Every day sends future to past		       |
    |	      Every breath leaves me one less to my last	       |
    |	Dream Theater	    Pull Me Under	Images and Words       |
    |	Michael Burstin			     Brandeis University       |
    +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
    |  Let's Go Pens   Let's Go Pens	 Lets Go Pens	 Let's Go Pens |
    +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
    For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
    

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    Date: Wed, 8 Jun 94 20:32:52 PDT From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) Subject: Re: DT Boots

    The FAQ in the DT archives says The Dance of Eternity is "easily the best DT boot available". Is this a widely held opinion or just Michael Burstin's ?

    No. He's right. Lords of Sound, however, is of just as good quality, plus it has "pup" (instead of CoS).

    Are there any to avoid ?

    The Live in Long Island CD's. I have Home Sweet Home (which I believe is LiLI part II, and the quality is lacking. (btw, I'm looking to trade this CD)

    Zach

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    Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 21:42:22 -0600 From: lab_helmts@vesper.emcmt.edu Subject: Re: DT Boots

    > After several long months of basement remodelling, I plan to reward myself > by getting some boots, including DT, so I thought I would ask for some > opinions about what's available. > > The FAQ in the DT archives says The Dance of Eternity is "easily the best DT > boot available". Is this a widely held opinion or just Michael Burstin's ?

    I like the following two 2CD shows I have from Dream Theater:

    Lords of Sound - from a radio concert in Milwaukee

    Dance of Eternity - this is would say the best because of the length and quality

    =============================================================== = "As you woke this morning and opened up your eyes = = Did you notice the tear-stains lining your face were mine" = = = = "I Dream in Infrared" Queensryche = =============================================================== = LAB_HELMTS@vesper.emcmt.edu Terry Helmts = ===============================================================

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    Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 00:13:50 -0500 (EDT) From: hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> Subject: previous issue stuff.

    I think that they should just about be finished ALL of the recording. >From what I had heard, they were going into the studio on May 1st with a 6 week budget for recording. This gives them a week or so left.

    Could the guy that got the Instu Mental boot please tell us more about it? What songs are on it? Where in the hell did you get it?

    ************************************************************************** * Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu * * * * You're fighting the weight of the world, * * and no one can save you this time. * * Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. * * * * "Take the Time" - Dream Theater * **************************************************************************

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    Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 00:27:52 -0500 (EDT) From: hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> Subject: Thoughts on "Lost in the Sky"

    I just got Lost in the Sky today. 1st off, the packaging blew me away! I just wish that it was in a big jewel box to keep it in good shape. Here is what I'm gonna do. I bought one of those two disc in one jewel box things (like what DoE comes in). I'll put the discs in there and then take the packaging and stuff to a color copier and print up copies of the set list from the back and put it in the inside of the box and then put a nice "DREAM THEATER" from the cover on the front of the CD. It'll be my own little "portable" Lost in the Sky.

    When I listened, I wanted to here the new stuff. I wanted to check out Only a Matter of Time with the "new" ending instumental section. When I 1st heard it, I thought that it sounded familiar, maybe from one of the Majesty Demos. Then later, when I listened to the whole disc, I heard that at the end of the track before it (before OaMoT starts), James says something like "We're gonna go back to 1989 and do something from When Dream and Day Unite, and after that we are gonna go back a little farther". This also makes me think he was speaking of the Majesty demos. I guess I'll have to pull them out and listen to them some more and see if I can find the spot.

    Also , does anyone know which of the Majesty demos supposedly became the latter end of Change of Seasons?

    I find the sound on LitS to be a little mid-rangy, especially the guitars. The drums sound great. Sometimes James sounds dry, like there are no effects on him at all. I had heard my friends Dance of Eternity a few times and thought it was great, I expected LitS to be better. I guess it has its good parts and bad. I love Eve. It sounds great.

    I wonder how these bootleg people can make the kind of mistakes that they do? Like putting a pic of John M. where John P. should be, or in some cases, mislabeling songs. To go to all of the trouble to put together such a great CD, you would think that the person would be a big DT fan and know what they were talking about, or at least get it checked out by a true DT fan.

    I also picked up Fates Warnings - Perfect Symetry this evening. I have Parralels and No Exit. This one sounds pretty good so far. The one that Kevin plays one is already my favorite. You could probably tell someone that it was Dt and they would believe you, except for the vocals I guess. Kevin and his keys just add so much to the music, more than a two guitars could do, ie - Fates or Qryche or even Cynic. BTW - Cynic is really cool. What other bands are like them?

    Welp I'll get going now. I just wanted to type some and keep my phone busy because I don't want my woman to be able to call me. She was supposed to call me an hour ago but her line is still busy, she is talking to her other "guy friend". Screw her....

    ************************************************************************** * Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu * * * * You're fighting the weight of the world, * * and no one can save you this time. * * Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. * * * * "Take the Time" - Dream Theater * **************************************************************************

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