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Re: Thoughts on "Lost in the Sky" (Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>)
Re: CD Set for trade (William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>)
Re: Thoughts on "Lost in the Sky" (William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>)
Archives and random stuff.... ("Somewhere out of a memory, Of lighted streets on quiet nights....")
Dreambill (hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>)
unsubscribe (amg0033@v2.qub.ac.uk)
NEW BOOT INSTRU-MENTAL FOR SALE!! ("TIMOTHY LODGE, POLITICAL SCIENCE '95" <LODGE_TIM@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU>)
Fates (MikeP81576@aol.com)
Re: Instru Mental (Mozo21@aol.com)
Re: YTSEJAM digest 420 (a few things) (Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>)
Re: puppies on acid? new album? (BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>)
Re: New Boot (BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>)
The Archives (drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh))
Re: Dreambill (BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>)
Re: CD Set for trade (freak@salyko.cube.net (Alex Reinelt))
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Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 07:46:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Thoughts on "Lost in the Sky"
Excerpts from mail: 8-Jun-94 Thoughts on "Lost in the Sky" by hartman
larry@gl.umbc.ed
> When I listened, I wanted to here the new stuff. I wanted to check out
> Only a Matter of Time with the "new" ending instumental section.
> When I 1st heard it, I thought that it sounded familiar, maybe from one
> of the Majesty Demos. Then later, when I listened to the whole disc, I
> heard that at the end of the track before it (before OaMoT starts), James
> says something like "We're gonna go back to 1989 and do something from
> When Dream and Day Unite, and after that we are gonna go back a little
> farther". This also makes me think he was speaking of the Majesty demos.
> I guess I'll have to pull them out and listen to them some more and see if
> I can find the spot.
It's from March of the Tyrant.
max
That's not a knife...
p.s. I need a drummer, bad. Mail me for info.
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Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 08:48:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: CD Set for trade
Puppies on Acid is the same show as Lords Of Sound.
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Bill Bajzek
impaler+@cmu.edu
verbing weirds language
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Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 08:59:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Thoughts on "Lost in the Sky"
Excerpts from ytsejam: 8-Jun-94 Thoughts on "Lost in the Sky" by hartman
larry@gl.umbc.ed
> When I listened, I wanted to here the new stuff. I wanted to check out
> Only a Matter of Time with the "new" ending instumental section.
> When I 1st heard it, I thought that it sounded familiar, maybe from one
> of the Majesty Demos. Then later, when I listened to the whole disc, I
> heard that at the end of the track before it (before OaMoT starts), James
> says something like "We're gonna go back to 1989 and do something from
> When Dream and Day Unite, and after that we are gonna go back a little
> farther". This also makes me think he was speaking of the Majesty demos.
> I guess I'll have to pull them out and listen to them some more and see if
> I can find the spot.
>
It's March of the Tyrant
> I find the sound on LitS to be a little mid-rangy, especially the guitars.
> The drums sound great. Sometimes James sounds dry, like there are no
> effects on him at all. I had heard my friends Dance of Eternity a few
> times and thought it was great, I expected LitS to be better.
> I guess it has its good parts and bad. I love Eve. It sounds great.
>
James is too quiet. Sound like the mic was broken or something.
> I wonder how these bootleg people can make the kind of mistakes that they
> do? Like putting a pic of John M. where John P. should be, or in some
> cases, mislabeling songs. To go to all of the trouble to put together
> such a great CD, you would think that the person would be a big DT fan and
> know what they were talking about, or at least get it checked out by
> a true DT fan.
Hmm. I bought a Pantera bootleg on Metal Crash called "Four Cowboys from
Hell" and it has the song "Primal Concrete Sledge" mislabeled as
"Trivial Track Christ". I figure this was to give the impression that it
was a new song, because right before they play it Phil says "This one's
called Primal Concrete Sledge"
I figure this is also why Pull Me Under is labeled as Status Seeker on
HsH and LiLI, because they didn't play it that early in the tour and
they wanted people to think they're getting something special.
>
> I also picked up Fates Warnings - Perfect Symetry this evening. I have
> Parralels and No Exit. This one sounds pretty good so far. The one that
> Kevin plays one is already my favorite. You could probably tell someone
> that it was Dt and they would believe you, except for the vocals I guess.
> Kevin and his keys just add so much to the music, more than a two guitars
> could do, ie - Fates or Qryche or even Cynic. BTW - Cynic is really cool.
> What other bands are like them?
You might want to try Saga. They're stuff is more major key, and not as
heavy, but they do some cool unison and harmony solos with the guitar
and keyboards. The singer sounds kindof like Freddy Mercury. In fact,
they sound kind of like a cross between Queen, Rush, and Genesis. I have
"A World Apart". It's from 1982, I think, but they're still around and
their last 2 albums, which I haven't been able to find, are supposed to
be heavier, like Metallica or at least Iron Maiden.
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Bill Bajzek
impaler+@cmu.edu
verbing weirds language
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Date: Thu, 09 Jun 1994 09:18:07 EDT
From: "Somewhere out of a memory, Of lighted streets on quiet nights...."
Subject: Archives and random stuff....
Hello all,
I hav just joined this list(I wish I had found it sooner) and have been
reading about the FAQ in the archives. Well I was wondering if someone
could let me know where the archives are and how I can get to them. As
the subject of CD-boots came up I wanted to know where is the best place
to get DT boots. I have a list of places to get boots but I want to know
which is the one of the better places to get them.
Also I have the import "Live at the Marquee" recorded in London.
I think it is a great live CD. Anybody else have this? And what do you
think of it? Thanks in advance.
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Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 12:44:37 -0500 (EDT)
From: hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
Subject: Dreambill
I wanted to know if there was anyone here on the net that was at the
"Dance of Eternity" show where they did Change of Seasons. They supposedly
had ushers and intermission etc. Could you tell us about it?
I have a video boot of it and it looks like a really small place. I thought
it would have been in a big theater or something.
But what I really wanted to know was, do any of you have a copy of the
program that they gave out? What is it like? Is there anyway you could
scan a copy and upload it for us to check out?
Thanks!
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Date: Thu, 09 Jun 1994 23:49:25 EDT
From: amg0033@v2.qub.ac.uk
Subject: unsubscribe
How the heck do you unsubscribe from this list.. I am going on holidays
soon, and don't want the list filled with "protection violation" errors
I have tried the following at BOTH ytsejam-request@bnf.com and listserv@bnf.com
unsubscribe ytsejam clive mccaig
unsubscribe ytsejam amg0033@vax2.queens-belfast.ac.uk
unsubscribe ytsejam
None of these seems to have worked...
thanks....
Clive
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Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 19:17:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: "TIMOTHY LODGE, POLITICAL SCIENCE '95" <LODGE_TIM@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU>
Subject: NEW BOOT INSTRU-MENTAL FOR SALE!!
I have checked out my connection and have been able
to acquire at least 2 of the recently pressed
CD called Instru-mental.
This CD is put out by the same people who put out the 86 demo cd
which i've sold on the net here.
Anyway the CD looks really cool and has a nice "what happened with
the band in 1987" on the back of the jewel box.
It has all the 87 demos and "The ones that help to set the son"
plus another i think and it also has a drum solo from portnoy,
and from petrucci
a late summer rain
schizophrenia
and one other (i cant remember the name) guitar solo piece.
(no not the gorilla session..it was on ei didnt ever see!)
Email me if you want one.
or are interested.
Tim
lodge_tim2
sorry
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Date: Thu, 09 Jun 94 20:14:19 EDT
From: MikeP81576@aol.com
Subject: Fates
I'm only sending this in response to all the positive Fates comments on the
list lately. If I was unfamiliar with the group, and someone told me to get
Parallels (which they did) and I raced out to buy it (which I did) and was
really let down by it (which I was) I would have wanted to hear from someone
who wasn't really into them.
THESE ARE NOT FLAMES. DON'T BOTHER RESPONDING TO THEM - ARGUMENTS BORE ME
1. The singer uses very strange phrasing - often drawing out words in the
middle of each line in a verse, which doesn't help the vocal continuity.
2. A lot of songs start out like they will really kick butt - really up
tempo. Then, about a minute into it, they hit the brakes and most of the
songs get dark and moody.
3. Almost every song's lyrical content is centered around two people who
can't communicate or have a troubled relationship. Not really my cup of tea.
Yeah, the band is great musically - a lot better than most of the fodder out
there - but don't expect another DT. THERE IS ONLY ONE.
Mike
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Date: Thu, 09 Jun 94 21:59:28 EDT
From: Mozo21@aol.com
Subject: Re: Instru Mental
Okay guys, here it is.
Just picked up Instru Mental. It is a studio recording but not perfect
quality. It is definitely very very good though.
Total Time is 54:10.
Track Listing is:
1- After Life, 2- The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun, 3- The ytse' Jam, 4- Cry
For Freedom, 5- The Killing Hand, 6- Resurrection of Ernie, 7- Drum Solo, 8-
"Guitar Player" Spotlight (i- Indulge In Reverie, ii- a- Late Summer Rain, b-
Schizophrenia).
Obviously no vocals.
andy
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Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 23:18:50 -0500 (EDT)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 420 (a few things)
A few comments on yesterday's Ytsejam...
> ------------------------------
>
> From: Geoff Stephens <geoff@bga.com>
> Subject: Re: DT new release (fwd)
>
> Well I'm new to this list but I was just reading the faq in alt.music.dt
> and it said the release date would be around August 15. This may e off
> but that's what it said...
>
The FAQ info comes from here, and other sources... I had called AtCo
a while ago, and that was the latest info that they had. The date I
posted most recently was the date that someone on AOL had posted...
> ------------------------------
>
> From: Greg Picklesimer <gregp@mudd>
> Subject: DT Boots
>
> The FAQ in the DT archives says The Dance of Eternity is "easily the best DT
> boot available". Is this a widely held opinion or just Michael Burstin's ?
>
> I also assume that any of the soundboard recordings are of decent quality.
> Any comments about that?
>
Well, I would also say that Lost In The Sky is another great sounding
boot... I would rate those 2 as the best... (Oh, one side note...
that portion of the bootleg discog is from when Mike Bahr had it...)
I was actually thinking (well, I just came up with the idea right now)
that I would include some ratings on the discog... I might need help
with a few that I don't have... Anyone with any besides Dances Of
Eternity, Dream Out Loud, Home Sweet Home, Consciously Unreal, or Lost
In The Sky that cares to contribute their opinions, please let me
know...
> Are there any to avoid ?
>
I would stay away from Live In Long Island (both parts) and Skyway of
Nightmares. Those are the only BAD ones that I have heard... The
ones that I listed above (the ones that I have) I would say are all of
the ones that I listed above are pretty good, some excellent
> ------------------------------
>
> From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
> Subject: Re: DT Boots
>
> The Live in Long Island CD's. I have Home Sweet Home (which
> I believe is LiLI part II, and the quality is lacking.
> (btw, I'm looking to trade this CD)
>
Actually, HSH and LiLI are from the same shows, but HSH sounds much
better. It is also not a complete show. HSH drops Metropolis from
the beginning, and ends with Killing Hand, so it skips Take The Time,
Wait For Sleep, and Learning To Live. LiLI part II completes the show
with WFS and LTL, but adds a (bad, imo) version of ACOS (not from the
same show as the rest of LiLI) as well as the Majesty Demos (I
think... someone who has it knows better off hand...)
> ------------------------------
>
> From: hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
> Subject: Thoughts on "Lost in the Sky"
>
> When I listened, I wanted to here the new stuff. I wanted to check out
> Only a Matter of Time with the "new" ending instumental section.
> When I 1st heard it, I thought that it sounded familiar, maybe from one
> of the Majesty Demos. Then later, when I listened to the whole disc, I
> heard that at the end of the track before it (before OaMoT starts), James
> says something like "We're gonna go back to 1989 and do something from
> When Dream and Day Unite, and after that we are gonna go back a little
> farther". This also makes me think he was speaking of the Majesty demos.
> I guess I'll have to pull them out and listen to them some more and see if
> I can find the spot.
>
I know it also sounded familiar... I have not listened to the Majesty
Demos for a while, but I know that Bill (at CMU) said that it is March
Of The Tyrant... It does sorta go along w/ what James said about "and
a little further after that..."
> I wonder how these bootleg people can make the kind of mistakes that they
> do? Like putting a pic of John M. where John P. should be, or in some
> cases, mislabeling songs. To go to all of the trouble to put together
> such a great CD, you would think that the person would be a big DT fan and
> know what they were talking about, or at least get it checked out by
> a true DT fan.
>
I have always wondered about that one... If you notice though, they
didn't label most of the instrumentals that most of us are familiar
with... Mission: Impossible, Pup, Eve, etc... Just remember, as much
as we love all of these CDs, they are in it for the money... I just
wish that bands would decide to make tapes of every show available to
fans... maybe even sell tapes to the fans with tickets to the
shows... Hell, they complain about bootlegging, and they really do
have the best solution... Hell, most bands even tape every show
anyway, why not sell them... They would make more money, we, as fans,
would pay less, and the worry that everyone has... quality... would no
longer be a problem... Ah, well... just my opinion...
-- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | This world is spinning around me | | This world is spinning without me | | Every day sends future to past | | Every breath leaves me one less to my last | | Dream Theater Pull Me Under Images and Words | | Michael Burstin Brandeis University | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Let's Go Pens Let's Go Pens Lets Go Pens Let's Go Pens | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu------------------------------
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 22:22:33 -0600 (MDT) From: BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> Subject: Re: puppies on acid? new album?
I got the new fanzine, and Mike said that there's a song based on Pups on Acid, but the full-length song is titled "Kittens on Crack" I don't have the fanzine right now, but next time I post, I'll give some of the neat info on the new album! -Adam
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Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 22:30:55 -0600 (MDT) From: BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> Subject: Re: New Boot
If I cover all costs (S&H, tape, would someone be willing to dub the Instru Mental CD for me? Thanks in advance! -Adam bertapel@ucsu.colorado.edu
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Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 21:32:25 PDT From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh) Subject: The Archives
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and the directories are:
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for Fates Warning stuff:
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Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 22:45:55 -0600 (MDT) From: BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> Subject: Re: Dreambill
There's a copy of the program & dreambill in the new fanzine, and I'll be happy to copy it and send it out. I'm not sure about that scanning stuff! In my next post, I will also give the info on subscribing with the guy for the fanzine. It's really good! -Adam bertapel@ucsu.colorado.edu
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Date: Fri, 10 Jun 94 8:31:14 MET From: freak@salyko.cube.net (Alex Reinelt) Subject: Re: CD Set for trade
> > Puppies on Acid is the same show as Lords Of Sound. > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Bajzek
But does it contain LTL in full length? And is the sound as good as on lords of sound? bye, Freak *>>>> Freak is Alexander Reinelt from Munich/Germany <<<<* # UUCP: freak@cube.net FIDONET: Alex_Reinelt@2:2480/66 # # voice: ++49-89-68 33 40 FAX: ++49-89-689 18 71 # *>>>>> ... always alexander ... (Coca-Cola) <<*
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