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    Re: DT group? (zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill))
    Re: Tab`s by John (freak@salyko.cube.net (Alex Reinelt))
    Re: WHERE ARE YOUR CHECKS? :) (freak@salyko.cube.net (Alex Reinelt))
    Re: Enchant (freak@salyko.cube.net (Alex Reinelt))
    LitS, tab, helstar (lerxst@Esy.COM (Brian V. Cox))
    unsubscribe (COLIN STACKHOUSE <stackhou@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>)
    BDAYS (dpapalli@sdcc8.UCSD.EDU (Demetris P.))
     (Gregie Joel M <j-gregie@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu>)
    Re: DT touring with queensryche ? (Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>)
    Re: DT touring with queensryche ? (Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>)
    Re: ERIC Moglin (Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>)
    Re: Fates Warning (drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh))
    Re: DT touring with queensryche ? ("Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>)
    unsubscribe (Matthew T Pulver <mp67+@andrew.cmu.edu>)
    Re: What I just read in Screaming In Digital!!! ("Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>)
    Re: DT touring with queensryche ? (Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>)

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    Date: Tue, 3 May 94 21:50:23 PDT
    From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
    Subject: Re: DT group?

    Is there a DT newsgroup or what? My newsreader automatically
    scans for new groups and lists them when I log on, but I
    haven't found it when I've searched for it either.

    Zach

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    Date: Fri, 6 May 94 12:49:53 MET
    From: freak@salyko.cube.net (Alex Reinelt)
    Subject: Re: Tab`s by John

    >
    > Hi DT-Freaks !!!
    > I read in a german guitar-magazine that John Petrucci himself is
    > transcribing some of the DT songs.
    > When will that be released (will it ever) ? Can`t wait for the day !
    > Andreas Richter
    > richtera@physnet.uni-hamburg.de
    Well, why dont you let us know which magazine this is???!!
    Freak

    *>>>> Freak is Alexander Reinelt from Munich/Germany <<<<*
    # UUCP: freak@cube.net FIDONET: Alex_Reinelt@2:2480/66 #
    # voice: ++49-89-68 33 40 FAX: ++49-89-689 18 71 #
    *>>>>> You can't beat the real freak...! (Coca-Cola) <<*

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    Date: Fri, 6 May 94 12:51:40 MET
    From: freak@salyko.cube.net (Alex Reinelt)
    Subject: Re: WHERE ARE YOUR CHECKS? :)

    >
    >
    > Folks, I've recieved less than half the checks I was suppose to get. I
    > know the digest didnt go out for a couple of days, but PLEASE send me
    > your check ASAP. As it is, I cannot cover the extra cost of the
    > shirts, and I really dont want to "downgrade" them to less colors, etc.
    >
    > SO please, if you ordered a shirt, send me a check before friday. I will
    > make the final decision then.
    Well, hope youre talking of next friday or something as I can surely not
    bring over the 20$ to you wothin a day from germany to the US....

    bye, Freak

    *>>>> Freak is Alexander Reinelt from Munich/Germany <<<<*
    # UUCP: freak@cube.net FIDONET: Alex_Reinelt@2:2480/66 #
    # voice: ++49-89-68 33 40 FAX: ++49-89-689 18 71 #
    *>>>>> You can't beat the real freak...! (Coca-Cola) <<*

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    Date: Fri, 6 May 94 12:57:07 MET
    From: freak@salyko.cube.net (Alex Reinelt)
    Subject: Re: Enchant

    >
    >
    >
    > Have any of you heard of a band called Enchant? I don't suppose you have.
    > I just bought their (debut?) album the day before yesterday and I have to
    > say it rocks.
    >
    Yes, I agree, its a great debut!
    It got a well recognized start here in germany...good ratings.
    often also compared to rush (think of the drums with the many breaks),
    also interesting with the long melodic sections within the songs, that
    remains me of marillion, and ENCHANTs debut was party produced by
    Marillions Steve Rothery.
    Its not as hard as DT or usual releated stuff...but i can recommend it
    100% to anybody who loves the music of DT AND Rush AND Marillion (a bit)
    bye, Freak

    *>>>> Freak is Alexander Reinelt from Munich/Germany <<<<*
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    *>>>>> You can't beat the real freak...! (Coca-Cola) <<*

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    Date: Fri, 6 May 94 13:41:55 CDT
    From: lerxst@Esy.COM (Brian V. Cox)
    Subject: LitS, tab, helstar

    hi everyone, i would like to respond to a few things from the last yj:

    > Subject: Lost In The Sky
    > I can sell many copies of the new Dream Theater cdboot
    > called "Lost in the Sky".
    > for USA & OTHERS: 65$ (postpaid)
    > (alfredo.cappello@galactica.it)

    well, this is WAY too much for this cd. it is a great boot, but call this
    guy to order it (and any other boot for that matter) for $45 including tax
    and shipping for double discs:

    donald king
    "in the groove"
    1659 Alderbrook Rd.
    Atlanta, Ga 30345
    (404)972-0787

    he is a really good gut to order from...

    > Subject: WHERE ARE YOUR CHECKS? :)
    > Folks, I've recieved less than half the checks I was suppose to get. I
    > know the digest didnt go out for a couple of days, but PLEASE send me
    > your check ASAP. As it is, I cannot cover the extra cost of the
    > shirts, and I really dont want to "downgrade" them to less colors, etc.

    well, yours would have been out, buy i don't have your address :)

    > it? Trying to figure out a simple transcription method. :)
    > I'd appreciate any comments!
    > G
    >
    > > >
    > | | | | | | | |
    > I | | | | I | | | | I
    > 4 I X X X X I X X X X I
    > - I S I S I
    > 4 I I I
    > I B { {. B I { B B _=_ I
    > I | | I | | I
    > | |/ |___|
    > > > > > GMS

    well this is way too confusing, check out the tabs at ftp.netcom.com that
    i have posted, you can even download one to use as a template for your own,
    i don't care. each horizontal dash on mine is supposed to be one 32nd note.

    let me know if you have any problems...

    > anyone notice that the Galactic Cowboys give King's X a plug in the
    > liner notes of their first album? In the "letters of lyrics" one of them
    > is addressed to
    > "King's Crossing Station
    > 1 Silent Planet Way
    > Gretchen, Nebraska"
    >
    > thought that was worth mentioning.
    >
    > Mike/garion@indirect.com/belar@aol.com/king@citadel.gov.riva

    galactic cowboys also appeared on the king's x "faith hope love" album,
    credited with additional vocals on "mr. wilson". king's x and galactic
    cowboys are very good friends, since both are based in houston, and they
    used to share the same manager (sam taylor) and the same studio (rivendell
    studios in houston). it is not a coincidence that of the 10+ times i have
    seen king's x, galactic cowboys have opened for them about half the time.
    first time was dec '90, in houston, at the tower theater, before the galactic
    cowboys were even signed to geffen.

    > From: "Buzzy Bellew" <DAB112@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
    > Subject: Another Prog-metal entry...
    >
    > I was just browsing about in my selection of heavy metal and "other"
    > recordings and came across something that DEFINITELY deserved mention
    > during the somewhat recent thread about different Progressive Metal
    > groups/recordings.
    >
    > Helstar, "NOSFERATU" definitely deserves honorable mention. It's
    > fantastic music. It doesn't involve much keyboard work at all, really
    > but it DOES feature some greatly classically-influenced acoustic gui-
    > tar work and some piano as well. The singing is superb, very meticu-
    > lously crafted. Half the album is concept, based on Bram Stoker's
    > "Dracula" (no kidding... :> ) and the other half is just very cool
    > material. Definitely high points on the album are "Baptized in Blood"
    > "The Curse Has Passed Away" and also "Aleria and Everron"(sp?).
    >
    > Definitely check this one out!!!

    it is about time someone else on this list mentioned helstar!! :) another
    truly great houston band. nosferatu came out in '89 i think. they have another
    cd called "a distant thunder" and at least a couple of albums before that,
    (not available on disc). they broke up, but recently got back together.

    in case anyone is interested in them, i have two of their "nosferatu" tour
    shows on video recorded in houston. always available for trade...

    in case anyone cares, my email will be changing in three weeks back to school.
    (the opposite of most of you) :) this is my new home:

    bvc8995@tamsun.tamu.edu

    "But those days are gone now, changed like a leaf on a tree,
            Blown away forever into the cool autumn breeze...
     The snow has been falling, and I know where I stand,
            The world of my childhood memories, left blown in the sand..."
                                    -ACOS

    ****************************************************************************
    *Brian V. Cox *"You and I long to live like wind upon the water*
    *Texas A&M University * If we close our eyes, we'll maybe realize *
    *(214)553-9159 * There's more to life than what we have known *
    *lerxst@esy.com * And I can't believe I spent so long *
    *************************** Living lies I knew were wrong inside *
    * "What you believe is * I've just begun to see the light..." *
    * What you are...Therefore* -Queensryche "Anybody Listening?" *
    * I am nothing" -Brian * "Machines have no conscience..." -Qryche NM156 *
    ****************************************************************************

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    Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 14:18:25 -0600 (MDT)
    From: COLIN STACKHOUSE <stackhou@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
    Subject: unsubscribe

    please unsubscribe me as I while be away from Email for the summer

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    Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 14:50:24 -0700 (PDT)
    From: dpapalli@sdcc8.UCSD.EDU (Demetris P.)
    Subject: BDAYS

    Just sth I saw this morning in a magazine. James bday was on May
    5th, he just turned 31, and Kevin's on the 21st, he turns 23 ( or
    sth close to these :) )

    They also asked a bunch of members of several groups ( the cool
    thing DT was listed on the cover) what the stupidest suggestion that
    someone gave to them was. The funniest ones were Kevin's and Mike's
    (suprise suprise). Kevin said that someone told him to learn to
    play less keys and he'll go far... and Mike gave an ironic comment
    about Mechanic, that they told them to sign with them and not be
    afraid because they would be in good hands !!

    Demetris

     

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    Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 21:07:48 -0500
    From: Gregie Joel M <j-gregie@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu>
    Subject:

    set ytsejam mail digest

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    Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 23:41:03 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
    Subject: Re: DT touring with queensryche ?

    Excerpts from mail: 5-May-94 Re: DT touring with queensr.. by Matthew M
    Leger@kepler.u
    > I don't know what you're talking about. Queensryche and DT would
    > be an incredible show! (Maybe you've never seen Queensryche live
    > before). DT would blow them away, granted, but it would be a hell of a
    > show!!
    >
    the point is, 45 minutes is not *nearly* enough time for DT. And after
    DT, QR (or anyone else for that matter) would be a huge letdown. I would
    go to see the show, but I'd probably leave after DT...

    >
    > Nice ALIENS quote. --Hudson
    >
    It's Hicks, sir. *He's* Hudson.

    max

    All right, we waste him. No offense.

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    Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 23:52:10 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
    Subject: Re: DT touring with queensryche ?

    Excerpts from mail: 2-May-94 Re: DT touring with queensr.. by Stacie
    Rosenzweig@stu.be
    >
    > That begs the question -- how many of you want DT to make it big (rather
    > than keep playing little club shows)? Do you think their music will be
    > affected by arena tours and commercial success? Do you think they will
    > retain their integrity?
    >

    Well, I would like them to be successful...but I prefer the smaller
    venues. Like to see them in clubs a few more times before they get
    huge...

    I think they'll retain their integrity. If the music changes, it
    wouldn't be due to commercial success...it'll be because they've grown
    tired of the complexity. Hope it never happens. Bands tend to suck when
    they do that. (Metallica, Genesis...the list is long and distinguished.)

    max

    All right, we waste him. No offense.

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    Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 23:04:10 -0500 (CDT)
    From: Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>
    Subject: Re: ERIC Moglin

    The two shirts that are available have been claimed, but the store might
    be able to get more in a few weeks. The shirts are black, and my E-mail
    adress is in my SIG. Take it easy!

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    According to the circle of fifths, and the pattern of sharps and flats:
    If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sig's) (i.e
    A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major
    would have 4 sharps.

                                  emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu
               ERIC MOEGLING:
                                emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu
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    Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 21:37:47 PDT
    From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
    Subject: Re: Fates Warning

    >
    > No Exit was the album just before Perfect Symetry
    > Awaken the Guardian was either the one before No Exit or their first
    >album. I forget exactly wich one. Besides these three albums and Parralels
    >there was another. I haven't heard it for a while and I forgot the name
    >can anyone help me out here? (mine vaped a while back :( )
    >
    >See ya
    >Tom

    Awaken the Guardian came before No Exit with the original singer... John
    Arch... it is not their first album, before AtG came The Spectre Within
    and before that, Night on Brocken... and before that... only the gods
    know... for those who have demos of FW before their albums are gods...

    -The Doc

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    Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 21:53:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com> Subject: Re: DT touring with queensryche ?

    > That begs the question -- how many of you want DT to make it big (rather > than keep playing little club shows)? Do you think their music will be > affected by arena tours and commercial success? Do you think they will > retain their integrity?

    It offends my sense of justice that other bands with nowhere near as much technical proficiency as DT make it huge while they continue in a 'medium-size club' mode.....if anyone out there in music today deserves some attention and bucks, it's DT. But you're right; if they ever get the 'label push' they deserve, we'll have to contend with arena shows, not as intimate as a club, and hordes of new fans.

    I can live with that, I guess. :)

    -- Once you're touched you stand alone | Paul W. Cashman To face the bitter fight | vanyel@crl.com Once I reached for love | Dream Theater And now I reach for life | <- "Learning to Live"

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    Date: Sat, 7 May 1994 01:54:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew T Pulver <mp67+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: unsubscribe

    please unsubscribe mp67@andrew.cmu.edu

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    Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 23:01:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com> Subject: Re: What I just read in Screaming In Digital!!!

    > I think I sense another DT vs...____ war starting up again, > let's not bite this time. (Yer right, though, 45 mins would > suck... but think of the exposure they would get!)

    Well, that's what their label would be banking on, really. After a few months opening for Queensryche, DT would probably be able to go on to a headlining tour of their own.

    As for a QR/DT show; I'd happily pay $55 for tickets. Two fantastic bands. QR's Empire show was one of the best live shows I've EVER seen.

    -- Once you're touched you stand alone | Paul W. Cashman To face the bitter fight | vanyel@crl.com Once I reached for love | Dream Theater And now I reach for life | <- "Learning to Live"

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    Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 23:54:31 -40962758 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com> Subject: Re: DT touring with queensryche ?

    > That begs the question -- how many of you want DT to make it big (rather > than keep playing little club shows)? Do you think their music will be > affected by arena tours and commercial success? Do you think they will > retain their integrity?

    Good question!!

    I think they can only because it HAS been done, albeit rarely. It seems like we're always waiting to see if anyone can do it again, since it just about never happens. Yes sold out. Floyd sold out (if you can listen to their last two albums without admitting it, you're living in denial, even though Learning to Fly kicks ass). Metallica sold out. Queensryche, in a way, did, and in a way, didn't. How Queensryche treats their next album will tell us their direction. Because Empire was written and recorded when the Ryche were NOT commercially successful. Above all, Rush has maintained every single scrap of integrity they had. They didn't sell out and probably never will. Not a single one of Rush's albums has gone over to pop, even though the massive volume of sales to the rock crowd alone had them selling out week-long stands at Radio City and Wembley back in the early 80's. Even "new Rush" is non-commercial.

    I hope Dream Theater can do it. Everything that has happened to DT up until how has mirrored Rush in almost scary ways. Their first album was semi-popular. They replaced a member. Their second album, which expanded thematically and musically, was a hit. Their third promises to be heavily thematic and conceptual. Anyone who cannot see the parallels to Rush, Fly By Night, and Caress of Steel must be blind. The difference? We hope DT won't be broke and in debt on their third tour like Rush was. But even if they are, and they follow the pattern, DT's fourth album will be their 2112, and it will quite literally knock us to the ground.

    Mike/garion@indirect.com/belar@aol.com/king@citadel.gov.riva

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