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X vs Y (F1T159@fek.su.se)
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Re: FW (William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>)
S T O N E T E M P L E P I L O T S (Blowback <71234.342@CompuServe.COM>)
I&W surround sound (Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>)
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Re: S T O N E T E M P L E P I L O T S (Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>)
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Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 01:30:40 -0700 (PDT)
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Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 10:14:34 -0500 (EDT)
From: hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
Subject: surround sound
Yes I have a Dolby Surround system and I really like to just listen
to the surround sound channels sometimes. I turn off the front main speakers
and just listen to the rears. Take the Time has lots of cool parts.
The 1st is at the begin right around the "Just let me catch my breath" part,
just up to the "I think it time for a change". You can only here John P.'s
little funky guitar part coming through the rear channel, its cool.
Another one I can think of in TtT, is during the quite part, "Close my eyes,
let the water rise around me", you can here Kevins piano really well in the
surround speaker, alot of cool little parts you can't normally here.
Thats all of the DT surround stuff I can think, but I know that on many discs,
you can here extra background vocals, ie, not the lead singer, but maybe
other guys in the band, or maybe the lead singer doing a harmony. A good
example of this the the Mathew Sweat album, Girlfriend. Also, there is
a little bit on Pearl Jams, 10, the main thing I remember is background
vocals on Even Flow.
Extremes last album, III Sides to Every Story, is loaded with surround stuff.
Alot of times, during a guitar solo, you will just here Nuno doing a rhythm
guitar part through the surround channel.
You should really check this stuff out if you have a surround sound stereo.
See ya!
BTW - Is Lost in the Sky worth $50??
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* Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu *
* *
* You're fighting the weight of the world, *
* and no one can save you this time. *
* Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. *
* *
* "Take the Time" - Dream Theater *
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Date: Tue, 24 May 94 17:17 GMT+0200
From: F1T159@fek.su.se
Subject: X vs Y
I'm too growing tired of the X vs Y discussion, but I feel that I have to
state my opinion:
John vs Alex: I'm not a guitarist so I'm therefore not an expert on this case,
but nevertheless I think that Alex overall is a better musician
(he has got the experience of 20 years+ of playing) and has more
than John developed a style of his own. (Ok, he's not a Jimmy
Page but still one of the great.) John is probably better
technically and I think that with some more years experience,
he will be able to create a style of his own and become one of
the greatest. Now, whenever I hear certain solos, I'm just
thinkin' about Steve Vai and Joe Satriani.
John vs Geddy: I think that the same goes for this one. While Geddy through
his style and sound! has made himself famous, John tends to
pass as quite anonymous but with great technical skills.
(I think that his sound though is the best for DT, I would not
like to have DT with Rick-sound. BTW what happened when they
recorded WDaDU, you can hear the bass but it's not much bass!
Didn't Terry Date produce Badmotorfinger by Soundgarden, the
heaviest album of 1991?)
James vs Geddy: Two different styles! Though none of them sounds very good at
very high-pitched parts. Sometimes live, James seems to just
yell for the sake of it. Settle down, don't soil your pants!
James has got power, and that's his strength as opposed to
Charlie ('I am the killing ...haaaaaaa' :-U) Dominici, but
as we all know James can also do Another Day-stuff better than
most guys. Geddy's got more of an original style.
Kevin vs Geddy: Kevin's a real keyboard-player and one of the best. 'Nuff said!
Mike vs Neil: Sorry, Neil IS God. Mike is so far doing very well, but if you
listen to his solos, many things are similar to what Neil's done.
Don't flame me! I know I'm a dick already! These were just my opinions, not
my humble opinions though. Remember, DT have just released two albums, they're
just warming up! For a warm-up, this must be the warm-up of the century!
I hope and think that with the age and experience and some albums more, they
will rise to the absolute top of musical excellence as well as finding their
style both as a band and individually. You can't expect them to have done that
by just two albums! Let's return to this discussion in about 15 years, then
who knows what's happened.....
Bye for now!
/Matt, Stockholm Sweden (f1t159@fek.su.se)
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Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 10:35:00 -0500 (cdt)
From: TK421 <FINKE@AC.GRIN.EDU> (Chad D Finke)
Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE!!!!!
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Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 13:50:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: FW
there's an instrumental on Awaken the Guardian.
btw, Ray Alder rules, especialy on No Exit
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impaler+@cmu.edu
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Date: 24 May 94 16:10:17 EDT
From: Blowback <71234.342@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: S T O N E T E M P L E P I L O T S
Stone Temple Pilots will release their latest, "Purple", on June 7th. A limited
edition vinyl version will be released prior to that date. The band will soon
hit the road in support of the new collection with the Meat Puppets confirmed as
openers.
I've been listening to an advance cassette of this album for the past four days
CONSTANTLY. It is truly amazing how good this band is. Songs are:
Meatplow
Vaseline
Lounge Fly*
Interstate Love Song*
Still Remains*
Pretty Penny**
Silvergun Superman***
Big Empty****
Unglued
Army Ants
Kitchenware And Candy Bars
* These songs will take you to another dimension
** Consider this STP's acoustic/Led Zep III-like masterpiece
*** You will NOT believe the guitar sounds coming out of this future classic
**** From the soundtrack to _The Crow_ (you know, the album that brought us For
Love Not Lisa!)
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Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 16:47:57 -0500 (EDT)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
Subject: I&W surround sound
Boy... its been a long time since I actually listened to I&W, as
opposed to DoE, LitS, DoL, etc... I forgot how incredible it
sounded!!! Well, I can't be sure, but it sure sounds at least a
little better with Dolby Pro Logic turned on... I can't be sure, but
it probably is encoded with Pro Logic...
-- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | This world is spinning around me | | This world is spinning without me | | Every day sends future to past | | Every breath leaves me one less to my last | | Dream Theater Pull Me Under Images and Words | | Michael Burstin Brandeis University | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Let's Go Pens Let's Go Pens Lets Go Pens Let's Go Pens | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu------------------------------
Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 13:56:34 PDT From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh) Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 399
Peart and Mike have fundamentally two different drumming styles... you can't really say which guy is better or worse. The big misconception in music is that it is a competition, well, it's not... it's a matter of taste and style... two highly subjective components involved.
Where Peart is definitely a rock/metal oriented style, Portnoy is a metal/jazz oriented style which I usually classify as "new progressive rock drumming" which is more along the lines of Mark Zonders (Fates Warning) than Peart. Another drummer which is more along the veins is Vinnie Caluta (Sting) and Dave Weckle (Chick Corea).
-The Doc
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Date: Tue, 24 May 94 19:27:08 EDT From: whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White) Subject: Moon Bubbles
I just got Moon Bubbles, and I think Labrie was kinda funny (nobody in the audience agrees with me it sounded like though). After the first song, Metropolis, Labrie says: "We're gonna keep it going here with the next album, this is the title track off of this one... Just kidding..." He then chuckled. Only a few ppl in the audience chuckled though. Hmmm.. I thought it was pretty amuzing though. Chris
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Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 20:29:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Kevin Hulme <hulme@acsu.buffalo.edu> Subject: I/W Poster for sale.
Hi, all. I have a 2 x 3 Images and Words poster I would like to sell. Good to very good condition; a few minor wrinkles, and 4 thumb tack marks at the corners. If you are interested, please get in touch with me. I am game for either a sale or a trade.
Kevin H.
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Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 18:07:12 PDT From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh) Subject: ***** READ THIS MESSAGE TO UNSUBSCRIBE *****
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Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 18:09:27 PDT From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh) Subject: Dream Theater Archive
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Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 21:54:32 EDT From: gmsanbo@chopin.udel.edu (BIG G) Subject: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE!!!!!
Okay, what is wrong with these people? Don't you read the info that you got when you first subscribed? It clearly states in the ytsejam FAQL thus: to unsubscribe:
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Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 22:24:49 EDT From: gmsanbo@chopin.udel.edu (BIG G) Subject: Re: I/W Poster for sale.
On May 24, 5:55pm, Kevin Hulme wrote: } Subject: I/W Poster for sale. } Hi, all. I have a 2 x 3 Images and Words poster I would like to sell. Good } to very good condition; a few minor wrinkles, and 4 thumb tack marks at } the corners. If you are interested, please get in touch with me. I am } game for either a sale or a trade. } } Kevin H. }-- End of excerpt from Kevin Hulme
Hey, I'm just interested in where you got it - was it a store? Were there others? G
-- | "I once could see but | Garrett M. Sanborne |"The mess and the magic,| | now at last I'm blind" | gmsanbo@chopin.udel.edu | triumphant and tragic" | | -- Dream Theater | Univ. of Delaware | -- Rush | | "Love is the dance of Eternity." - Dream Theater, Metropolis Part One |
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Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 21:55:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Paul M Hudalla <huda0004@gold.tc.umn.edu> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 399
On Tue, 24 May 1994, Dr. Mosh wrote:
> Peart and Mike have fundamentally two different drumming styles... you > can't really say which guy is better or worse. The big misconception in > music is that it is a competition, well, it's not... it's a matter of > taste and style... two highly subjective components involved.
ok. > Where Peart is definitely a rock/metal oriented style, Portnoy is a > metal/jazz oriented style which I usually classify as "new progressive > rock drumming" which is more along the lines of Mark Zonders (Fates > Warning) than Peart. Another drummer which is more along the veins is > Vinnie Caluta (Sting) and Dave Weckle (Chick Corea).
Sorry, but I must laugh at you when I hear you saying that Portnoy's style is similar to Dave Weckl's. I cringe just thinking about someone raising Mike's skill to the levels of Weckl. I've played drums for seven years and have studied many diffenent styles of percussion. The fundamentals of jazz music are so much more difficult than what Portnoy does that... sorry I can't collect my thoughts. Did you do this just to raise a discussion. I can't believe anyone confident enough about their posting would say such an absurd statement. On top of all of the above, I would say that Peart is more of a jazz drummer than Portnoy (listen to some old Rush, not the new schtuff). Portnoy is pretty basic when it comes to dynamics and feel. It is much easier to get a Portnoy part to sound correct than to get some older Peart parts to sound correct. And if anyone even bothers to try to figure out a Weckl part, Peart and Portnoy should worship that person.
> -The Doc
sorry for coming off so abrasive, I don't intend to offend
--------->the bungler: huda0004@gold.tc.umn.edu
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Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 23:42:16 -0400 (EDT) From: gt8178b@prism.gatech.edu Subject: Ack! Sorry!
Hi again.
My sincerest apologies for sending no less than THREE copies of the same letter to the list. Just a little command-line elm mistake on my part. Hope I didn't annoy anyone too much.
I had a point to make, but I doubt repetition would do much to help me. :)
Later!
--Ty
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Date: Tue, 24 May 94 21:50:19 MDT From: khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson) Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 404
If James didn't have poor diction, there wouldn't be a bunch of guesses in the lyrics to "A Change of Seasons..."
On "LATM" did he say, "he said we both will be kearo's?"
Still, recorded James is amazing. Live James has too much screaming. Is screaming the vocalist equvilent of a guitar solo?
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Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 23:00:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu> Subject: Re: S T O N E T E M P L E P I L O T S
Just out of curiousity, and I'm not flaming here...but, Who Cares!!! This is the DT newsgroup, and not a STP newsgroup, and I'm sure if I wanted to hear about STP, I would've subscribed to something somewhat related!!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------- According to the circle of fifths, and the pattern of sharps and flats: If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sig's) (i.e A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major would have 4 sharps.
emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu ERIC MOEGLING: emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
On Tue, 24 May 1994, Blowback wrote:
> Stone Temple Pilots will release their latest, "Purple", on June 7th. A limited > edition vinyl version will be released prior to that date. The band will soon > hit the road in support of the new collection with the Meat Puppets confirmed as > openers. > > I've been listening to an advance cassette of this album for the past four days > CONSTANTLY. It is truly amazing how good this band is. Songs are: > > Meatplow > Vaseline > Lounge Fly* > Interstate Love Song* > Still Remains* > Pretty Penny** > Silvergun Superman*** > Big Empty**** > Unglued > Army Ants > Kitchenware And Candy Bars > > * These songs will take you to another dimension > ** Consider this STP's acoustic/Led Zep III-like masterpiece > *** You will NOT believe the guitar sounds coming out of this future classic > **** From the soundtrack to _The Crow_ (you know, the album that brought us For > Love Not Lisa!) > > >
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Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 23:26:05 -0600 (MDT) From: BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> Subject: Re: surround sound
If you want to hear cool surround, try Motley Crue's new album. To be honest, it's surprisingly good music too. Not like their old, glamour crap. The drums have an awesome sound to them. -Adam
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