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unsubscribe (TK421 <FINKE@AC.GRIN.EDU> (Chad D Finke))
Re: King Crimson (schew@tis.com)
Iron Maiden (csimmns@whale.st.usm.edu (Christopher Carrol Simmons))
Re: YTSEJAM digest 396 (Greg Picklesimer <gregp@mudd>)
Live Recordings ("backof michael ( bs ifsm)" <mbacko1@umbc.edu>)
Re: YTSEJAM digest 396 (khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson))
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Re: ProgVMetal ("Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>)
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Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 14:41:45 -0500 (cdt)
From: TK421 <FINKE@AC.GRIN.EDU> (Chad D Finke)
Subject: unsubscribe
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Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 17:23:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: schew@tis.com
Subject: Re: King Crimson
>
>Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 11:09:51 -0500 (CDT)
>From: Paul M Hudalla <huda0004@gold.tc.umn.edu>
>Subject: King Crimson
>
>To all DT fans,
>
>I love bands like DT, Rush, Queensryche, etc. Since I have heared King
>Crimson conpared to these bands, I was wondering if anyone out there
>would like to give me a prescription for my first King Crimson cd.
>I play drums, so percussion is an important part of the music to me.
>Please consider what a drummer would want to hear!
>
Well, I personally don't think that Dream Theater sounds at all
like King Crimson. King Crimson has a more experimental sound
compared to the more 'standard' progressive metal sound of DT. I also
think that KC is more inconsistent in quality, whereas I love
basically every DT song (0f course, KC has about 12 albums so that may
be unfair). There are some similarities though: Both bands play
complex music, full of time changes and dynamics. Both have a
pretty heavy sound, though DT is more like metal than KC. King Crimson
also has a fantastic drummer (in their latest incarnation) who you
have probably heard of: Bill Bruford. He is especially cool on
"Discipline".
As for recommendations, I would first recommend "Discipline"
since it one of the more accessible KC albums, and it is a strong
album overall. If you want to try earlier KC, then you may want to
start with "Red". If you want their earliest stuff, then start with
their first one "In the Court of the Crimson King". The three periods
of KC are very different from each other, so if possible, listen to the
album before you buy it.
I like King Crimson, but I have to be in the right mood for
their sound. "Discipline" is their only album that I listen to very
often.
Another band that I actually like better than KC, but is along
those lines (but with a bit more metal edge) is Anglagard. They are
from Sweden and have just one album: "Hybris". This is a wonderful
album with very cool dymanics and a *fantastic* drummer. The drummer
(Mattias Olsson) is constantly doing interesting rhythms (not much
double-bassing like DT's Mike P. though) -- I love it!
You can order this CD from Ranjit by sending email to:
ranjit@netcom.com. I doubt you'll find it anywhere else unless it
is a store that deals specifically in progressive music imports.
Speaking of Sweden, there is also another band from there
called Anekdoten who sound (in my ears) a bit like Anglagard, but have
a much more standard metal sound. I imagine that many people who like
DT would also like Anekdoten since they have cool dynamics and changing
time signatures. They don't have the amazing guitar runs or quite
the complex rhythms as DT though. Still, I really love their album
"Vemod". It can be ordered from Ranjit too. I've been listening to
"Hybris" and "Vemod" almost as much as my DT albums lately. :-)
I am now awaiting my copy of Dance of Eternity from Ranjit
with baited breath... I can't wait to hear "Change of Seasons"! :-)
BTW, if you have other questions about these bands, or other
recommendations, just ask.
Steve
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Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 16:04:04 +22304916 (CDT)
From: csimmns@whale.st.usm.edu (Christopher Carrol Simmons)
Subject: Iron Maiden
Hello All! I just started receiving YTSEJAM a couple of weeks ago and I
think it is fabulous! I used to suscribe to TNMS, but I didn't like it too
much. I don't mean to be judgemental (yeah, right) but the people on TNMS
seem to me to have too much time on their hands. Anyone that reads TNMS
will understand what I mean. Ok, it's time for my own little Dream Theater
story. I was watching Mtv one fine day and I saw a video. This video was
different. Instead of the usual Mtv fluff band, this band had talent.
While watching the video and listening to the music & lyrics, other bands
started popping in my head. Metallica, Rush, Styx, Yes, Queensryche and
Iron Maiden. I was blown away! I saw the name of the band at the end of
the video...Dream Theater. I found a friend that had I&W and I borrowed
it. What happened next, you ask? I wasn't impressed. The songs after track
1 were very different in style from the one I had heard. The music was
too...busy, for lack of a better word. So, I gave I&W back and went about my
business. A couple of months later I was watching Mtv again (I apologise)
and I saw another video...Take The Time. Again, I was blown away. I told
myself that if I could find one more reason to buy I&W, I would. I saw an
interview with the guitarist. In this interview Pricky Rachtman asked him
about "Metropolis" and said, and I quote, "What's the deal?" John's reply
was, "I was heavily influenced by Iron Maiden." Iron Maiden is my favorite
group and has been since 1982. When I heard this I went out and bought I&W
immeadiatly (sp?). I currently await DT's new album like a kid on
Christmas Eve. Now I have a question. Does anyone out there see Iron
Maiden's influence as much as I do and as much as John claims?
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Date: Tue, 17 May 94 14:11:07 MDT
From: Greg Picklesimer <gregp@mudd>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 396
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 11:09:51 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Paul M Hudalla <huda0004@gold.tc.umn.edu>
> Subject: King Crimson
>
> To all DT fans,
>
> I love bands like DT, Rush, Queensryche, etc. Since I have heared King
> Crimson conpared to these bands, I was wondering if anyone out there would
> like to give me a prescription for my first King Crimson cd. I play
> drums, so percussion is an important part of the music to me. Please
> consider what a drummer would want to hear!
>
> Thanks to the souls who respond,
>
> --------------------------------->the bungler
Speaking as a Crimson fan (since 1971), I would recommend them to any DT
fan, especially the early 70's incarnation (Robert Fripp, Bill Bruford,
David Cross, and John Wetton) which are responsible for the
albums Lark's Tongue in Aspic, Starless & Bible Black, and Red. All of these
albums feature Bill Bruford on drums during (imho) his peak years. LTIA
also features a second persussionist, Jamie Muir. There is also a 4 CD
box set freaturing live performances of this line-up.
A later incarnation in the early 80's (Fripp, Bruford, Tony Levin, and Adrian
Belew) also put out some interesting stuff, particularly wrt. percussion.
Sample the album Discipline first, if you have a choice, followed by Beat
and Three of a Perfect Pair. These albums, in general, are much more melodic
due to Belew's influence, but still contain complex rhytmic patterns and time
signatures.
BTW, a new lineup is allegedly at work in the studio now preparing tunes for
a fall release. Another reason '94 should be a great year for music.
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Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 17:58:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: "backof michael ( bs ifsm)" <mbacko1@umbc.edu>
Subject: Live Recordings
I would choose either Dance of Eternity (2CD) or Lost in the Sky (2CD)
if I could only have one live album by the group. I'm still looking for the
Majesty demos in case someone wants to trade.
Bradbury
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Date: Tue, 17 May 94 17:12:58 MDT
From: khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson)
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 396
No, I'm not sorry that Dream Theater are better musicians than Rush. I
used to listen to nothing but Rush, but Dream Theater is more
like what I'm into...
What I'm saying is that I don't want DT to be like Rush... I want
them to stay the way they are. Don't read so much into it..
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Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 22:24:00 -0400
From: chris.smart@canrem.com (Chris Smart)
Subject: -
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Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 23:40:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
Subject: Re: ProgVMetal
> The last time I needed a Metallica fix... I had a lobotomy... I'd rather
> listen to Smashing Pumpkins than those sell-out dickwads...
Funny; the results seem readily apparent....
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............. Paul W. Cashman vanyel@crl.com ...................
Though we live in trying times, we're the ones who have to try
Though we know that time has wings, we're the ones who have to fly
................. "Everyday Glory" N. Peart .....................
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