YTSEJAM digest 407

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Date: Fri May 27 1994 - 16:38:18 EDT

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    Contents:
    TSHIRTS: Status report (Jason Hough <jhough@qualcomm.com>)
    Re: Re: Rush vs. DT (dliebson@MIT.EDU)
    Another Comment: Rush vs. DT (Don Olive <olive@orph01.phy.ornl.gov>)
    Re: Rush vs. DT (RB747491%PUCAL.BITNET@UICVM.UIC.EDU)
    Re: UNSUBSCRIBE!!!!! (Gregie Joel M <j-gregie@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu>)
    Who is this guy anyway!! (dpapalli@sdcc8.UCSD.EDU (Demetris P.))
    Re: Another Comment: Rush vs. DT (gmsanbo@chopin.udel.edu (BIG G))
    DT fan club (Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca>)

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    Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 12:45:15 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Jason Hough <jhough@qualcomm.com>
    Subject: TSHIRTS: Status report

    On Thu, 26 May 1994, A Lerxst in Wonderland wrote:

    > hi.
    >
    > what is the status of the shirts?? let me know, eh. here is my new address
    > to send the shirt to, please DO NOT send it to the address that came
    > with my shirt, since i won't live there anymore.

    Brian, and everyone else who ordered shirts. Theres going to be a few
    more delays. I'm *REALLY* sorry it's taking so long. But, I do have a
    good excuse. I'm getting married. :) Also, we're having a lot of problems
    with Hacker's here at qualcomm this week, and things have been way to
    busy for me to even think about getting the shirts finished.

    Everyone who paid for a shirt will get a shirt, count on it. If you have
    a new summer address please email it to me directly. Thanks!

    -Jason

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     "I set the clouds in motion, turn up the light and sound,
      activate the window, and watch the world go round..." - rush
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    Date: Thu, 26 May 94 08:16:09
    From: dliebson@MIT.EDU
    Subject: Re: Re: Rush vs. DT

    >I think that Dream Theater has already sold out in a way. All the articles
    >I've read show that they compose their music for their audience rather than
    >just for music's sake. They just haven't achieved the attention of the
    >media (mainly MTV) yet.

    I don't think writing for "their audience" is selling out; I think writing
    for radio play and for MTV (as many bands seem to doing these days) is
    selling out.

    Dave

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    Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 10:53:33 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Don Olive <olive@orph01.phy.ornl.gov>
    Subject: Another Comment: Rush vs. DT

    Well here is one more comment for the fun of it. You guys comparing
    Rush and DT need to catch a clue! Rush is a rock-and-roll legend who
    has been putting out incredible music for over twenty (20) years!
    That's longer than most people on this list have been around! In the
    mean time they have individually established themselves as gods on
    their respective instruments such that almost every new
    metal/progressive band cites Rush as a major influence.

    To compare a band that has two (count them...2) discs out is crazy.
    Sure we can discuss all day how Neil's style is seen here or how
    Geddy's vocal style influenced DT or whatever. But to actually make
    arguments as to who is better, please! Twenty years from now lets
    discuss it but not now. Dream Theater is still just a babe in the
    woods. At least give them a chance to establish themselves with four
    or five consistently good discs that show some direction.

    You can't define a line with a single point.

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    Date: 26 May 1994 17:36:19 -0600 (CST) From: RB747491%PUCAL.BITNET@UICVM.UIC.EDU Subject: Re: Rush vs. DT

    I would just like to say to Rich that Queensryche does not suck!

    Thank you

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    Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 18:09:15 -0500 From: Gregie Joel M <j-gregie@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE!!!!!

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    Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 16:27:36 -0700 (PDT) From: dpapalli@sdcc8.UCSD.EDU (Demetris P.) Subject: Who is this guy anyway!!

    > > > >Sorry, but I must laugh at you when I hear you saying that Portnoy's style > >is similar to Dave Weckl's. I cringe just thinking about someone raising > >Mike's skill to the levels of Weckl. I've played drums for seven years > > That's where you are wrong and you said it yourself. I wasn't raising > Portnoy to Weckl's level I was merely comparing styles. And if you look at > it, Portnoy is a closer style to Weckl than it is to Peart. > >>> etc. etc....

    For us music illeterates, who is this Dave Weckl anyway? If he is as good as you guys made him sound like, well, at least I should try to hear something of his. With who and on what albmums did he play ??

    thanks

    Demetris

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    Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 23:46:22 EDT From: gmsanbo@chopin.udel.edu (BIG G) Subject: Re: Another Comment: Rush vs. DT

    On May 26, 2:26pm, Don Olive wrote: } Subject: Another Comment: Rush vs. DT } } Well here is one more comment for the fun of it. You guys comparing } Rush and DT need to catch a clue! Rush is a rock-and-roll legend who } has been putting out incredible music for over twenty (20) years! } That's longer than most people on this list have been around! In the } mean time they have individually established themselves as gods on } their respective instruments such that almost every new } metal/progressive band cites Rush as a major influence. } } To compare a band that has two (count them...2) discs out is crazy. } Sure we can discuss all day how Neil's style is seen here or how } Geddy's vocal style influenced DT or whatever. But to actually make } arguments as to who is better, please! Twenty years from now lets } discuss it but not now. Dream Theater is still just a babe in the } woods. At least give them a chance to establish themselves with four } or five consistently good discs that show some direction. } } You can't define a line with a single point. } } olive@orph23.phy.ornl.gov }-- End of excerpt from Don Olive

    Very well put. I completely agree. DT has the talent technically and they sound great to me so far, but give them a chance to establish their own "niche".

    :) G

    -- | "I once could see but | Garrett M. Sanborne |"The mess and the magic,| | now at last I'm blind" | gmsanbo@chopin.udel.edu | triumphant and tragic" | | -- Dream Theater | Univ. of Delaware | -- Rush | | "Love is the dance of Eternity." - Dream Theater, Metropolis Part One |

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    Date: Thu, 26 May 1994 21:40:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca> Subject: DT fan club

    i received a letter from them yesterday...i was soooooo happy, because i thought that i joined the wrong one...it took 4 months for them to reply... the reason for that is that apparently they had problems cashing my check (i live in canada)...they said their bank doesn't accept canadian dollars....but i don't know how that can be, since the check i sent them is for a special US dollar account, so the money would have been in US funds. anyways...does anyone know how i can get in touch with Gail (via email hopefully) if possible... i want to know if they did cash the check... and therefore allowed me to join the club. i didn't receive a bio, or picture, etc.. like i was supposed to...

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