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YTSEJAM Digest 576

Today's Topics:

  1) Samples and the FAQ
by psifire@netcom.com (Mathew W. Yee)
  2) Pittsburgh Discussions
by "backof michael ( bs ifsm)" <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
  3) Re: Could someone please get me a shirt!!
by Al <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
  4) Re: Results...
by Godsize@aol.com
  5) Re: WDADU/James compilation
by Godsize@aol.com
  6) Attn:Eric Moegling
by Godsize@aol.com
  7) Re: 12/2 SF show?
by BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
  8) meeting the band in Columbus, not a SPOILER
by GENE SZUCS <SZUCSEUE@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu>
  9) Tour Merchandise
by Jason Breitweg <jbreitwe@lobelia.physics.wisc.edu>
10) Re: Apology and Songs done live- Mild Spoiler
by William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
11) Re: "Scarred" Missing on Tape
by William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
12) Re: Max CD length
by William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
13) our own CDs...
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
14) New Jersey
by Rohit Modak <rmm30@columbia.edu>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 575
by "Jeremy Peter Lakatos" <jeremy@grove.ufl.edu>
16) My BOMB!
by Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>
17) Jersey
by Mozo21@aol.com
18) Lifting Credits Off of Charlie
by Mozo21@aol.com
19) Re: Peart vs. Portnoy rd. 2
by 2112@rmii.com (Douglas Yoder)
20) Re: Where can i find LITS
by M.J.Thomas-SE2@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk
21) Re: When Dream And LaBrie Unite
by Mats Rydstr\vm <d94-mry@nada.kth.se>
22) Re: Tour Merchandise
by G-Man <gmsanbo@strauss.udel.edu>
23) Re: YTSEJAM digest 575
by William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
24) portnoy again
by jsg140@psu.edu (Jason Gianni)
25) Re: Tour Merchandise
by RideMeLikeNJTransit <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
26) DT in Vancouver
by William Kriski <wkriski@enci.ucalgary.ca>
27) Re: DT B-More -- Spoilers
by Phil Felicia <FELICI53@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU>
28) re:Promised Land nonDT
by "james (j.) wolf" <jwolf@bnr.ca>
29) Re: WDADU/James compilation
by polzin edward george <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu>

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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 11:11:07 -0800 (PST)
From: psifire@netcom.com (Mathew W. Yee)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Samples and the FAQ
Message-ID: <199411011911.LAA15764@netcom14.netcom.com>

I was wondering if anyone has put together a listing of where all of the
_Awake_ samples have come from. I've started one, but the file got
trashed. All that I could recover was the posting by Ken about the samples
from 6:00.

If anyone has a more complete listing, please post it. If not, I'll keep
working on it so that we can place it in the FAQ when it is updated.

-- !@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@# Mathew Yee & * "Through nature's inflexible grace, psifire@netcom.com ! I'm learning to live. @ Official CAA Photographer # Dream Theater $ !@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#

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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 14:46:22 -0500 From: "backof michael ( bs ifsm)" <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Pittsburgh Discussions Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.90.941101143521.11042A-100000@rpc15.gl.umbc.edu>

Thanks to KAI for all of that info!!!!

It seems that us fans are not as smart as we so believed, though we probably know about every rumor that has been circulated about the band since its inception. And again I stand corrected about Light Fuse, though I still have a hard time trying to think of LaBrie on vocals for that song. Something about Charlie's singing during the studio version makes me feel that LaBrie would have to almost rewrite the notes for the lyric, if not the melody, then the speed to which it is sung. So much for my Live When Dream and Day Unite tape... <grin>

To the person that asked about Afterlife, the version that several of us have on the Lost in the Sky album is really incredible. James does a great job at singing on it and it is probably one of his better interpretations of Charlie's singing (along with The Killing Hand).

I wish I would have had time to hang around and meet the guys in Baltimore but I was just getting over a stomach virus and it got really cold outside after the show, hopefully I can catch them after the summer tour and have interesting discussions like KAI's.

I posted some related band info to the Marillion list a few days ago and I think I'll post about some related bands to this list in a few days. Just so you people have something else to listed to other than Awake, Promised Land, Inside Out, etc... many of us have disk changers, to those who don't, this will just make it harder for you.

To all of the ROIO collectors, I'm sure we will get some good material when they get back from Europe, hopefully the same people that did LITS will get a hold of a show and master it.

Sorry for the length,

Mike

mbacko1@umbc.edu

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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 16:32:56 -0500 (EST) From: Al <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Could someone please get me a shirt!! Message-ID: <9411012136.AA11373@anthor.arastar.com>

> > I posted before but I didn't get any responses. :( > > There was alot of confussion after my show in Baltimore so I failed to > get a shirt. Could someone please be so kind as to pick one up for me? > I would probably want the one with the album cover. Please > write me and we can work out the details. > > On a related note, did anyone get any of the new DT hats? How are they? > I got one of the black ones from the Images and Words tour. I never wear > it though cause its a piece of crap. The little peak on the front of the > cap is really high and it kinda looks stupid plus the logo is not centered > correctly. Do the new hats of a nice slopped front on them?

The new hats are excellent - I don't see anything wrong with them. They have the Majesty logo centered in front and the band name in the regular font in the back - very kewl hat...I don't think I've taken it off yet (besides sleeping)! :)

- AL

> > Please get me a shirt! > > ************************************************************************** > * Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu * > * * > * You're fighting the weight of the world, * > * and no one can save you this time. * > * Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. * > * * > * "Take the Time" - Dream Theater * > ************************************************************************** >

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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 17:39:12 -0500 From: Godsize@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Results... Message-ID: <9411011638157050820@aol.com>

Yeah I would like to say thanks also. It was an extremely cool thing to do!

Trey

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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 17:58:02 -0500 From: Godsize@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: WDADU/James compilation Message-ID: <9411011648497056312@aol.com>

Dude that would be totally awesome if you could. Maybe if it's not too much trouble you could put ACOS, Eve, and TLF. Of course there might not be enough room. That does sound like a lot of music. But if you had to pick from the three use ACOS. I have never heard it and can't find a bootleg that has it.

Trey

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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 17:59:39 -0500 From: Godsize@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Attn:Eric Moegling Message-ID: <9411011651037057437@aol.com>

What is your address?

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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 13:15:18 -0700 (MST) From: BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: 12/2 SF show? Message-ID: <199411012015.NAA03050@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>

I saw DT at the Warfield last summer, and there was no drink minimum. We just got there an hour before the doors opened, and went up to reserve our seats (spots) on the barricade! Have fun! I'll be here in Denver! -Adam

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Date: Tue, 01 Nov 1994 15:19:00 -0400 (EDT) From: GENE SZUCS <SZUCSEUE@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: meeting the band in Columbus, not a SPOILER Message-ID: <01HIYWEMW30200262E@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu>

Columbus really rocked...HARD and LOUD!! it was a sellout crowd and everything went well for Dt for the exception of a few minor timing mistakes. The only problem which was quite major was the opening band I MOther Earth, or another name for them could quite possibly be Spinal Tap!! They had ssooooo many problems with their sound (mic cords not working, bass cords not working, strings breaking, etc..) that I could not help but feeling sorry for them, even though they bored the living Hell out of me!!! WEll, we got to Columbus around 1:00 and pulled around the back of the theater to see the roadies setting everything up, but no band.. So we then proceeded to do a little music shopping, eating, guitar shopping, before heading to the back of the theater at around 5:30, when this blue limo pulls out, and I recognize Mike Portnoy, and John Petrucci getting out of the back. i had my eyes on my targets and didn't even see Labrie and Myung skirting around me. I went up to these two who looked really tired and they told me that they had just been to a signing at some local store, which I had not known about. Portnoy had his arms filled with cd's and told me; "Yeah, they told us to take whatever we wanted, so I did..." When I asked him about seeing Promised Land in his pile which was an assortment of jazz and classic rock (I think), he jokingly told me that it was for his drum tech. john and Mike were really cool for sticking around to talk to us for a few minutes before realizing that they were late for a sound check (oops!!) I told John I was going to be in his corner, and I was, second row!! He played almost every ripping solo in my face, and now I can die happy. We taped the show (half of it, the recorder went out after halfway), and the quality isn't bad. WE were going to bring a DAT recorder, but couldn't find $400 for the mic!! The mixing is really sharp except in some parts where they boost the volumes this way and that. Kick ass show!! ________________________________________________________________________-_____ | Eugene E. Szucs \ " All The World Is Indeed A Stage, And WE Are |University of Dayton| Merely Players, Performers And Portrayers, |@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu| Each Anothers Audience Outside The Gilded Cage" --______--------------------------------------------------------------------- "All That Glitters Is Not Always Gold" | "uuuhhhhh The devil made me do it" --------------------------------------- -some weirdo

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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 94 17:18:49 CST From: Jason Breitweg <jbreitwe@lobelia.physics.wisc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Tour Merchandise Message-ID: <m0r2SUI-0002AlC@donews.cts.com>

Hi all,

Could someone out there give a run down of the merchandise available at the DT show. I would like to know how much money I should bring and what I need to buy. Any info is greatly appreciated, thanx.

Jason

P.S. Anyone know if we can bring cameras to the Milwaukee show?

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jason T. Breitweg Internet: jbreitwe@lobelia.physics.wisc.edu | | | | her stride is such mortals freeze when she walks past | | and she comes down to me and offers me sleep | | under her black wings | | - "her black wings" | | Danzig | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 20:35:28 -0500 (EST) From: William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Apology and Songs done live- Mild Spoiler Message-ID: <MihinUO00YUn5ZGV12@andrew.cmu.edu>

i'll check. i think its the same

if YOU want to know ----- bill bajzek ------- and if YOU want to know just what i see ------- impaler@cmu.edu ------------ where were going look at yourself --- http://www.contrib.andrew --- keep your distance and dont ask me ----- .cmu.edu/usr/wb2a/home ----- and dont follow me D E R E K Derek D E R E K Derek D E R E K

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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 20:36:45 -0500 (EST) From: William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: "Scarred" Missing on Tape Message-ID: <cihiohO00YUnFZGVUQ@andrew.cmu.edu>

Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU> writes: > Excerpts from mail: 1-Nov-94 Re: "Scarred" Missing on Tape by William T > Bajzek@CMU.EDU > > after the show, when i wa talking to derek, some roadie shouted at him > > that he had to go learn it for the next show. which would mean tonight > > in columbus. > > > > I'm pretty sure it's TOWHTSTS that he was supposed to learn for the next > show. At one point while I was talking to him, he was talking to some > roadie and said something like "and get me those speakers up there, I > need to learn that tune," to which I asked, "which tune is that?" and he > said "Set the Sun." >

the roadie shouted that they want him to learn scarred for the next show.

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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 20:38:49 -0500 (EST) From: William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: Max CD length Message-ID: <8ihiqdG00YUn5ZGWE0@andrew.cmu.edu>

Neil.D.Evans@Dartmouth.EDU (Neil D. Evans) writes: > Not that I am all that caught up in this whole argument about the maximum > length a CD can be due to various compression schemes, but I have a 79:21 > minute disc of Eliot Fisk playing Paganini's 24 caprices for violin on > guitar (amazing!!) which plays just fine on my very ordinary CD player.. I > have a few hundred discs and none of them is longer, so I would say that by > pure statistical reasoning that is about the limit for a CD. >

i have 2 ine inch nails bootleg cds that are over 79 minutes long, and i cant remember for sure but i believe godflesh's Pure was 79 or 80...

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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 21:25:42 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam SERVER) Subject: our own CDs... Message-ID: <199411020225.VAA17588@rasp.cs.brandeis.edu>

Just a note... as much as I would love to make CDs... This idea has sorta already been discussed... Last year, a few of us looked into the possibilities of getting some CDs pressed for the mailing list, to be sold at cost, and it appeared, at least then, that it was too risky. With some help, we found out that all (blank) CDs have some type of tracking number or something like that... If anyone was to ever get ahold of a copy of this CD, they could easily be traced back to the person who had them printed... I would think that the record companies could go after someone printing CDs, unlike their relative uninterest in tapes... Again, I don't know, but this is why there are not already Ytsejam CDs...

This might not be true today with the relative availability of CD-ROM burners which can also do audio CDs... If ANYONE has any info, please let us know. The one thing is that ANY CDs made have to be sold AT COST, or there would be some much bigger risk involved in it. (Drkhoe, you seem to know alot about CDs... any info (if you get this at all... I am predicting that netcom is going to have a MAJOR crash very soon, after someone sent a chain letter/junk mail to EVERY address on the system, including any mailing lists from netcom)

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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 22:43:16 -0500 (EST) From: Rohit Modak <rmm30@columbia.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: New Jersey Message-ID: <Pine.3.89C.9411012207.B7169-0100000@ciao.cc.columbia.edu>

I read an article about two weeks ago that Petrucci and Portnoy recently moved to from Long Island to Hackensack, NJ which is about 15 minutes outside of New York in Bergen County. I also heard (from some random guy on line at the Tower Records Awake signing) that Petrucci was giving guitar lessons to people before the tour started.

__________________________________________________________________________ Rohit Modak rmm30@columbia.edu

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Date: Tue, 01 Nov 94 23:12:58 -0500 From: "Jeremy Peter Lakatos" <jeremy@grove.ufl.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 575 Message-ID: <199411020413.XAA16241@grove.ufl.edu>

+- On Tuesday (11/1/94 18:05) ytsejam@arastar.com wrote- | From: William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>

| charlie didnt really write the lyrics to afterlife, they played it | with chris collings back when they were majesty. its on one of the | bootlegged concerts. its just bullshit to make charlie look like he | did something other than sing

If you are talking about the remix on the 1985 majesty demo disk, I think that *is* Charlie on vocals. I don't think the demo disk was released until after WDADU, and it can't be assured that each song on there was recorded in 1985. It definitely sounds like a collection of random stuff, most of which is demo material (and I wish they had left Wanted: Dead or Alive off).

-- jeremy (jeremy@grove.ufl.edu) Only waiting to die.

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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 00:07:05 -0600 (CST) From: Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: My BOMB! Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9411020058.A1735-0100000@bigcat>

A Big Vote of thanks to the total BUTT-MUNCH at Netcom who was so kind to send me an E-mail Bomb!!! I know those of you on the list who are on there are cool people, and I'm aware of the ones who didn't do it. Anyways, I'm totally sorry to post this on the net, but a few of you were affected, and I'm sorry for any trouble it caused. Later!

----------------------------------------------------------------------------- According to the circle of fifths, and the pattern of sharps and flats: If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sig's) (i.e A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major would have 4 sharps.

emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu

ERIC MOEGLING: emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu as297@freenet.hsc.colorado.edu

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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 02:12:19 -0500 From: Mozo21@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Jersey Message-ID: <9411012227337279362@aol.com>

I believe Mike is 'from' Long Beach, but now he lives in New Jersey. If you look on I&W (or maybe WDADU), he thanks 'The Long Beach' crew in the liner notes. I remember reading that John P. and Mike now live in New Jersey.

Also, wasn't the original fan club based in Long Beach?

Andy

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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 02:44:19 -0500 From: Mozo21@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Lifting Credits Off of Charlie Message-ID: <9411020033497359170@aol.com>

<<charlie didnt really write the lyrics to afterlife, they played it with chris collings back when they were majesty. its on one of the bootlegged concerts. its just bullshit to make charlie look like he did something other than sing>>

Hey! Let's give Charlie his due. I always liked the lyrics to Afterlife and Charlie did write them. What's very strange about the whole thing is that the song was played by Majesty with Chris Collins on vocal, but the lyrics were totally different. However, the song was still called 'Afterlife' or maybe it was 'After Life' (slight semantic difference). I can't figure out why it was called Afterlife since it's not in the lyrics. If you have a Majesty boot, take another listen.

Andy

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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 94 03:32 MST From: 2112@rmii.com (Douglas Yoder) To: Ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Peart vs. Portnoy rd. 2 Message-ID: <m0r2czy-0001RnC@rockymtn.net>

>Now kids...for those of you that are new to the group, we had a MAJOR >problem with this sort of thing not too long ago. We had Peart vs >Portnoy, and Lee vs Myung...both battles are a total waste of time, and a >complete waste of disk space for some YTSEJAMerz. So PLEASE take it to >private e-mail! Please note, I'm not a moderator, and I have absolutly no >authority to tell you guys what to do...this is just a suggestion! Later all!

Hehe... That's too funny. I actually sat here responding to that message about Peart vs. Portnoy thinking with a bit of trepidation, "God, this could turn into quite the little debate."

<grinning> Ok mom, I prooomise not to discuss the matter aaany more!"

Geez, we was only havin' fun...

2112

-------------------| | /\ | : 2112 -=<2112>=- | home : 2112@RMII.COM ^^ | work : Yoder@comet.enet.qntm.com .. | .oo. | .oOOo. | * Remember that we are all spiritual beings * .oOOo. | * having a human experience... * .oo. | .. | When we stand on the edge of all that we | have known, one of two things will happen: Encourage Liberal | A bridge will appear at our feet or we Use of Intellect | will be taught how to fly. and Free Will!! | ___________________|

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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 94 11:37:03 GMT From: M.J.Thomas-SE2@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Where can i find LITS Message-ID: <2454.9411021137@eeyore.cs.bham.ac.uk>

> To live forever (Mr. Petrucci does his Joe Satrianni bit:) >

what do you mean by this?

It's just the way he stands there "doing his thang" while these lights circle behind him. It reminds me a lot of the Extremist cover for some reason. The entire instrumental bit sounds like it could be Joe too, IMHO, more than anything else John's done.

See ya,

Matt.

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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 12:54:31 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Rydstr\vm <d94-mry@nada.kth.se> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: When Dream And LaBrie Unite Message-ID: <Pine.3.87.9411021231.A1586-0100000@xbyse.nada.kth.se>

Fact: AFTERLIFE has been played by the band with LaBrie.

One of the shows were Stockholm SWEDEN 27/10-93, I was there and I've also got a recording of that. They did Metropolis-Mission Impossible-Afterlife... and Afterlife was a killer!

/Mats

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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 07:26:19 -0500 (EST) From: G-Man <gmsanbo@strauss.udel.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Tour Merchandise Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9411020746.A22490-0100000@strauss.udel.edu>

On Tue, 1 Nov 1994, Jason Breitweg wrote: > Could someone out there give a run down of the merchandise available at the > DT show. I would like to know how much money I should bring and what I need > to buy. Any info is greatly appreciated, thanx.

At the B-more show, t-shirts were $23, one had the album cover (I don't remember the back) and one had the 5 band members (incl. Kevin!) with the logo superimposed over them - the back has a globe with "waking up the world tour" above it. There was a long sleeve T for $35, with a very cool clock face/eyeball/clouds design on front, "Dream Theater" above it in the usual font, and the tour dates with "waking up the world tour"on the back. The basball caps were $20. That's all I remember. I picked up the long sleeve T and the band member T. I couldn't decide. :-) They make a killing charging those prices. It's sad.

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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 09:11:36 -0500 (EST) From: William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 575 Message-ID: <MihtsM_00WBNM1mYgO@andrew.cmu.edu>

Excerpts from ytsejam: 2-Nov-94 Re: YTSEJAM digest 575 by Jeremy P. Lakatos@grove. > If you are talking about the remix on the 1985 majesty demo disk, > I think that *is* Charlie on vocals. I don't think the demo disk > was released until after WDADU, and it can't be assured that each > song on there was recorded in 1985. It definitely sounds like a > collection of random stuff, most of which is demo material (and I > wish they had left Wanted: Dead or Alive off).

no, i'm talking about a live performance with chris collins on vocals. thats why i said that. i'll have to listen to it again later... if YOU want to know ----- bill bajzek ------- and if YOU want to know just what i see ------- impaler@cmu.edu ------------ where were going look at yourself --- http://www.contrib.andrew --- keep your distance and dont ask me ----- .cmu.edu/usr/wb2a/home ----- and dont follow me D E R E K Derek D E R E K Derek D E R E K

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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 09:21:45 -0500 From: jsg140@psu.edu (Jason Gianni) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: portnoy again Message-ID: <199411021421.AA20362@genesis.ait.psu.edu>

Thanks to all who originally responded back to me about Mike living in NJ [or Long Island]. I've been a Dream Theater fan for a LONG time (ever since WDADU) and I've know forever that Mike is ORIGINALLY from the island. HOWEVER, I've heard AS OF RECENTLY that Mike has MOVED to New Jersey. As a matter of fact, I even recall hearing that statement on the recent Headbanger's ball from two weeks ago. If any one else has heard that too, definately chime in on the next ytsejam issue. If he is still living on the island, and I heard wrong, well, I appologize in advance. Thanks for the help, and rock on..............

-Jason-

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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 09:32:29 -0500 (EST) From: RideMeLikeNJTransit <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Tour Merchandise Message-ID: <m0r2gml-0000vjC@crash.cts.com>

> > Hi all, > > Could someone out there give a run down of the merchandise available at the > DT show. I would like to know how much money I should bring and what I need > to buy. Any info is greatly appreciated, thanx. >

From what I remember, they had the following.....

1.) $20 - A DT hat with logo on front and "Dream Theater" on the back , an off-white hat with black lettering and black bill...very kewl....

2.) $35 - A long sleeve T-shirt (black) which has "Dream Theater" in yellow in front top, with a cool purple eye (DT logo in pupil) set on a clock background. "Dream Theater" in gold along the left sleeve. The back has "Waking up the World Tour 94-95 with the tour dates all in gold/yellow.....

3.) $23 i believe - Black T-shirt with the Awake cover on the front and the same back as above....

4.) $23 i believe - Black T-shirt with a group photo on a purple majesty logo background, with "Dream Theater" in a purple with yellow shoadowed lettering with "Awake" in white underneath....on back there is an alarm clock I believe with the globe as the clock face (in purple, green and yellow) with "Waking Up the World - Tour 94-95" on top and I think something else on bottom...

I think that's all for the merchandise.....if there was anything else, please let me know.....:)

- Al

> Jason > > P.S. Anyone know if we can bring cameras to the Milwaukee show? > > +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Jason T. Breitweg Internet: jbreitwe@lobelia.physics.wisc.edu | > | | > | her stride is such mortals freeze when she walks past | > | and she comes down to me and offers me sleep | > | under her black wings | > | - "her black wings" | > | Danzig | > +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >

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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 09:49:53 -0700 (MST) From: William Kriski <wkriski@enci.ucalgary.ca> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: DT in Vancouver Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9411020947.A20869-0100000@hiperf1>

Can someone please e-mail me with the exact date DT will be playing in Vancouver? Are they playing with FW?

I know they're playing Seattle on the 27th so I figure it's around there.

Thanks in advance.

Will

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Date: Wed, 02 Nov 1994 14:25:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Phil Felicia <FELICI53@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: DT B-More -- Spoilers Message-ID: <01HJ09HIVI9U9BYQR4@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU>

>On Fri, 28 Oct 1994, Phil Felicia wrote: > >> >> [Nothing like answering a question with a question, but...I'm answerless] >> Did anyone catch what was being sung/spoken at the end of the drum solo? >> >Do you mean that kinda rap like beat thing towards the end? I'm not sure >what was being said (something like-Here we're going to get wicked), but >I know that I've heard it before on the end of a song called 'Bring the >Noise' that Anthrax did with Chuck D. > >--Stephan >--sdobay@wam.umd.edu >

Thanks. I think that was it(sounds kinda familiar) One more thing: When they say their NOT going to play SDV live they mean it... Not even the little sample in the MIRROR, still REALLY cool though.

Phil,

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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 10:37:00 -0600 From: "james (j.) wolf" <jwolf@bnr.ca> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: re:Promised Land nonDT Message-ID: <"10503 Wed Nov 2 11:37:19 1994"@bnr.ca>

In message "Promised Land nonDT", Trey writes:

> Well I used to be a huge QR fan and I loved Empire and Operation Mindcrime. > But I just can't believe that they put forth their best effort on this and I > am really disappointed. I think they just let all of their fans down. Their

They definitely did not let ALL their fans down. They may have let you down, but their are plenty out there, myself included, who like the new album.

> just isn't enough music in this album. Like in Promised Land, I was really > looking forward to hearing this song because of the time length. But after > around 6 minutes it's the same thing over and over, and the last minute or so > is just samples.

I do think the title track is a little longer and more repititious than it should be. It sure does start off cool though.

> Of course I was into QR before DT but after I got into DT I went back to > listen to Empire and after hearing the musicianship of DT it made QR seem > obsolete. To be able to compete with masters like Rush or the brilliant > songwriting of DT, the aging QR needs to focus more on the musical aspect of > their albums and worry less about sending a political message in their > lyrics. Now I do think bands progressive should have good lyrics but they > must also realize they need to be able to entertain with music. Notice how > QR doesn't have any Instrumentals.

Whether or not a band has instrumentals has nothing to do with their ability. While it's true that QR, as a WHOLE, can't compete with DT as far as musical chops go, there is so much more to music then how fast you play. Although the new QR isn't my favorite QR album either, there are songs that I like. And on those songs QR paints moods in a way that nobody else, including DT, can do. In that respect, I think DT can learn something from QR.

One other thing that QR does which I hope DT can do is change. Some fans may not like the direction of "Promised Land", but QR never does the same thing twice and aren't afraid to alienate the typical fan who want them to do "Operation:Mindcrime"- style albums over and over. I just hope DT can continue to change and won't feel like they have to keep a similar style because they are afraid of losing fans. > Trey

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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 13:04:32 -0600 (CST) From: polzin edward george <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: WDADU/James compilation Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.90.941102130234.12808A-100000@glhpx7.cen.uiuc.edu>

I'm just writing to say that I'm interested in the compilation. This sounds like a really cool idea. It also would be cool to put ACOS, Eve, TLF on the cd. Hopefully there will be enough interest in this to actually do it.

ED On Tue, 1 Nov 1994 Godsize@aol.com wrote:

> Dude that would be totally awesome if you could. Maybe if it's not too much > trouble you could put ACOS, Eve, and TLF. Of course there might not be > enough room. That does sound like a lot of music. But if you had to pick > from the three use ACOS. I have never heard it and can't find a bootleg that > has it. > > Trey >

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