YTSEJAM Digest 534
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Complete Tour Date Listing
by "Jeff Boerio" <boerio@ichips.intel.com>
2) AWAKE
by James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
3) Re: SDV live
by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
4) Re: SDV live
by freel@Iowa.Physics.UIowa.EDU
5) DT Appearance at Tower Records
by Rohit Modak <rmm30@columbia.edu>
6) Re: A few more things about Awake...
by freak@salyko.cube.net (Alex Reinelt)
7) Just testing, guys!
by "Tor Houghton" <torh@cogs.susx.ac.uk>
8) Bootlegs?
by "Tor Houghton" <torh@cogs.susx.ac.uk>
9) Re: SDV live
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
10) Re: I've got the Awake CD!!!
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
11) Re: The National Midnight Star
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
12) Re: Bootlegs?
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
13) HEadbanger's ball?
by rosenzwe@stu.beloit.edu (Stacie Rosenzweig)
14) Re: Complete Tour Date Listing
by BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
15) NO Head Banger's Ball !!!
by Nate Bradley <nbradley@d.umn.edu>
16) Re: Bootlegs?
by polzin edward george <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu>
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Topic No. 1
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 12:12:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Jeff Boerio" <boerio@ichips.intel.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Complete Tour Date Listing
Message-ID: <9410011912.AA12353@pdxgp1>
Here are the tour dates, as announced by Mike Portnoy from the IRC
conference several weeks ago. These are ALL the dates that have been
announced to this point. I am sure that C-Man will update the schedule
when more dates (South, Southwest, and West Coast) are known. Europe and
Far East dates are NOT set yet.
For Jeremy in Cincinnati, go to the show in Columbus. The theater there is
really cool. It's a GA show and I'm sure you'll be able to get up to the
front pretty easily. It's on the campus of Ohio State University.
For Brian in Minneapolis, your dates are included as well.
- Jeff
TOUR DATES SO FAR:
OPENER: I Mother Earth
Dates:
10/20 providence RI The strand
10/21 boston berklee performance center
10/22 new haven, ct palace theater
10/24 buffalo, ny ct. saint armory
10/25 toronto, ca warehouse
10/27 baltimore hammerjacks
10/28 ny ny manhattan center
10/29 pittsburgh metropol
10/31 columbus, oh newport music hall
11/01 grand rapids, mi orbit room
11/04 milwaukee, wi ray's eagles auditorium
11/05 chicago vic theater
11/06 detroit state theater
11/08 minneapolis, mn mirage
Endin in LA 1st, 2nd week of December
Japan in January
Europe in February and March
These are all the dates known
-- Jeff Boerio \\ Systems Programmer \\ Intel Corporation \\ boerio@ichips.intel.com //------------------------------
Topic No. 2
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 17:21:55 -0400 (EDT) From: James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: AWAKE Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9410011755.A22715-a100000@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
Well, I've still only managed to listen to Awake 3times so far...
Hey Doc! I'm still trying to decide if I like it better than Inside Out (FW) too... I don't know... I love Inside Out but it's my fourth favorite FW album (1. PS, 2. Parallels, 3. NE)
Awake is awesome but it might be my least favorite of the DT albums... Don't flame me folks - I love it but at times I think this album sounds too much like a heavy metal Kansas. I also think that James over-sings sometimes (reminds me of DT live).
I really love all of the reoccurring themes and voice samples on Awake... I think I'll listen again right now! Jay Peele(INFERNO)
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Topic No. 3
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 14:31:42 PDT From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: SDV live Message-ID: <199410012131.OAA24565@netcom4.netcom.com>
You know... all this reasoning that it's Kevin song still doesn't mean they shouldn't play it live... why put it on the album then??
The album is a commercial venture... nothing different from a concert...
It's a great song and I think we should be able to enjoy it live...
-The Doc
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Topic No. 4
Date: Sat, 01 Oct 1994 21:38:25 C From: freel@Iowa.Physics.UIowa.EDU To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: SDV live Message-ID: <009854FD.3ACEA520.9749@Iowa.Physics.UIowa.EDU>
>You know... all this reasoning that it's Kevin song still doesn't mean >they shouldn't play it live... why put it on the album then?? > >The album is a commercial venture... nothing different from a concert... > >It's a great song and I think we should be able to enjoy it live...
Some people believe some music has more to it than you seem to suggest.
I fully understand why they don't want to play it live... even if it becomes a top 40 hit!
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Topic No. 5
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 1994 23:19:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Rohit Modak <rmm30@columbia.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: DT Appearance at Tower Records Message-ID: <Pine.3.89C.9410012301.A3325-0100000@aloha.cc.columbia.edu>
I got my DT tickets today for the NY show...$47.40 for 2....ouch!!! But more importantly, DT will be at Tower Records in Paramus, NJ (on Rt. 17) this Tuesday. I would assume that they are gonna be signing their new CD. It should be really cool.
I unfortunately don't have anything interesting to ask the band while I'm there, yet I want to say something to prove I'm a real fan, and not just some schmuck who heard Pull me Under once. Can anyone help me out with an intelligent comment/question? __________________________________________________________________________ Rohit Modak rmm30@columbia.edu
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Topic No. 6
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 94 12:46:22 MET From: freak@salyko.cube.net (Alex Reinelt) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: A few more things about Awake... Message-ID: <m0qrPN1-0000vtC@cubnt1.cube.net>
> > Anyone notice the Nearl Peart "Mystic Rhythms" drum riff in Voices? > Cool...as mystic rhythms is one of my alltime faves...could you tell me where exactly? cd time maybe "in advance", as i dont have the cd yet.... > > I'm still trying to decide if Awake is better than Inside Out (Fates Warning), > I still think IO has the edge... > Well, shouldnt be difficult...in my opinion IO is not as good as parallels....and no question that DT beats FW.... though FW just have a bit offer style of music.... Freak
( Alexander Reinelt from Munich/Germany ) freak@cube.net Alex_Reinelt@2:2480/66 ( fax: 49-89-689 18 71 mobile phone & tape: 49-171-622 03 40 ) "Praying for time to get some peace...!!!" (Dream Theater)
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Topic No. 7
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 14:17:40 +0100 (BST) From: "Tor Houghton" <torh@cogs.susx.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Dream Theater) Subject: Just testing, guys! Message-ID: <m0qrQnN-0001RTC@tsunb.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk>
Ok, now I hope all is set for me to recieve the ultimate in discussion on the ultimate of music!
Thanks to all you guys who mailed me after my request on alt.rock-n-roll.metal.
Tor.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ email: torh@cogs.sussex.ac.uk "Then we will wonder if machines will steal each others dreams." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Topic No. 8
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 14:58:29 +0100 (BST) From: "Tor Houghton" <torh@cogs.susx.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Dream Theater) Subject: Bootlegs? Message-ID: <m0qrRQr-0001RTC@tsunb.ctn.cogs.susx.ac.uk>
I know the band has a divided view on this, but I was wondering where one can get hold of bootlegs? I live in the UK, but I hope this shouldn't stop me from being able to get hold of a few CD's?
I hear there is one called "Dance of Eternity"?
Tor.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ email: torh@cogs.sussex.ac.uk "Then we will wonder if machines will steal each others dreams." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Topic No. 9
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 10:25:09 -0500 (CDT) From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: SDV live Message-ID: <199410021525.KAA08149@galaxy.galstar.com>
> You know... all this reasoning that it's Kevin song still doesn't mean > they shouldn't play it live... why put it on the album then?? > > The album is a commercial venture... nothing different from a concert... > > It's a great song and I think we should be able to enjoy it live...
Hmm... well I think what DT is getting at is this. The song is Kevins. For them to play it live without kevin it just wouldn't mean the same. It wouldn't have the passion that Kev played it with. It just wouldn't mean anything.
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Topic No. 10
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 10:34:56 -0500 (CDT) From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: I've got the Awake CD!!! Message-ID: <199410021534.KAA08166@galaxy.galstar.com>
> Today just before 6 PM I visited a record store specialized in Metal in > Stockholm, Sweden, hoping that they would have the Awake CD. Walking into that > store right behind me was a guy with a package. Guess what was in that > package... Yes, it was the Awake CD! I bought it right away, along with about 10 > other DT'ers who were standing there waiting for it. So now I have it, though I > haven't had the time to listen to it yet as I'm in school now. But I would like > to tell you something about the cover and also say something about the booklet.
Damn why do you guys get it before us! :)
Oh well, at least I get to watch HHB today. (Which you guys got to see before us also.)
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Topic No. 11
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 10:35:44 -0500 (CDT) From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: The National Midnight Star Message-ID: <199410021535.KAA08175@galaxy.galstar.com>
> Sorry for the Non-DT content but...... > Anybody on this list also on Rush's mailing list > "The National Midnight Star"? I haven't gotten > an issue for about a month and I can't get onto the > ftp or gopher site. What's going on? Anybody with info > could you please e-mail me directly. Thanks
The server (SYRINX.UMD.EDU) is screwed. Doesn't respond to pings.
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Topic No. 12
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 11:37:31 -0500 (CDT) From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Bootlegs? Message-ID: <199410021637.LAA08288@galaxy.galstar.com>
> I know the band has a divided view on this, but I was wondering where one > can get hold of bootlegs? I live in the UK, but I hope this shouldn't stop me > from being able to get hold of a few CD's? > > I hear there is one called "Dance of Eternity"?
Yes, I've heard that's their best.... uhm can the person who sends this guy some info send it to me also? I'd really love to get DOE, but I'm not sure how/where. Thanks.
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Topic No. 13
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 11:34:22 +22304916 (CDT) From: rosenzwe@stu.beloit.edu (Stacie Rosenzweig) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: HEadbanger's ball? Message-ID: <9410021634.AA10425@stu.beloit.edu>
I watched MTV (in the background) from 9:30 p.m. 'till after 1 a.m. and HBB never came on....(This is all CDT)...I remember HBB was on at 11 p.m. a long time ago...normally I don't watch it b/c Rikki is an idiot, but last night, I was waiting to see the Lie video -- WHAT HAPPENED???? Is it on at 8 p.m.? 2 a.m.? Did they pre-empt it so they could air 8 consecutive episodes of Beavis and Butthead?
Help!
Stacie
p.s. Anyone else live/go to school in small town, USA without a car? I'll probably have to ask the one music store within walking distance (which specializes in alternative and rap) to special-order Awake and Promised Land...
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Topic No. 14
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 12:05:04 -0600 (MDT) From: BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Complete Tour Date Listing Message-ID: <199410021805.MAA22030@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
Here's an addition to the tour dates: Nov 22 Denver, CO Mammoth Theater -Adam
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Topic No. 15
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 13:31:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Nate Bradley <nbradley@d.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: NO Head Banger's Ball !!! Message-ID: <199410021831.NAA21578@ub.d.umn.edu>
Well here in the midwestern US we got screwed!!! Head Bangers ball was not aired!! It was scheduled to be on at 11pm, one of my freinds always tapes it so we can skip most of the crap that it is played. Well we got a few hours of B&B, which in their own words sux!!!
Well, I finally got ahold of the Live in Tokyo video. It was not what I had expected, it 1000 times better!!! I wish I would have bought it before. For those of you who have seen DT live, how do there regular shows compare to the tape. Was the LIT video and exception or do they usually have that good of a show?
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Nathan I Bradley the more I think 1320 Stadium Dr. G106 the more I tend to worry Duluth, MN 55812-2405 -Fates Warning 726-7720 URL http://ub.d.umn.edu:8080/~nbradley/ ============================================================================
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Topic No. 16
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 13:38:48 -0500 (CDT) From: polzin edward george <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: Bootlegs? Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.90.941002133751.27848A-100000@eehpx4.cen.uiuc.edu>
Can someone send me info about bootlegs also? Thanks.
On Sun, 2 Oct 1994, William Wright wrote:
> > I know the band has a divided view on this, but I was wondering where one > > can get hold of bootlegs? I live in the UK, but I hope this shouldn't stop me > > from being able to get hold of a few CD's? > > > > I hear there is one called "Dance of Eternity"? > > Yes, I've heard that's their best.... uhm can the person who sends this > guy some info send it to me also? I'd really love to get DOE, but I'm not > sure how/where. Thanks. > > wwright@galaxy.galstar.com > >
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