YTSEJAM Digest 555
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) The Stuck CD
by Mike Sullivan <msulliva@eagle.esd189.wednet.edu>
2) Release Party
by Mozo21@aol.com
3) Help!
by DocLandau@aol.com
4) Live Samples
by Matthew M Leger <mml@kepler.unh.edu>
5) Release Party Revisited
by Mozo21@aol.com
6) DT support BBS
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
7) DT Los Angeles show!
by AirDance@aol.com
8) Re: Release Party Revisited
by BILL LIVES HERE <MLEELUN@VAXC.STEVENS-TECH.EDU>
9) YTSEJAM digest 554
by Jeremy Haynes <71035.1006@compuserve.com>
10) Jordan/Derek
by PROGnosis1@aol.com
11) Re: Release Party Revisited
by kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
12) Providence & Boston get togethers?
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
13) Re: Aftershow Activities
by AirDance@aol.com
14) Re: Re: YTSEJAM digest 552
by AirDance@aol.com
15) Re: Why 6:00?!?!?!?!
by Phil Felicia <FELICI53@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU>
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 552
by "Mark D. Scudder" <6705324@sunybroome.edu>
17) NO DT in studio on HBB
by Andrew Cloninger <ancl@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
18) ...more opinions!
by Dario M Zagar <dmz2@columbia.edu>
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Topic No. 1
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 19:59:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mike Sullivan <msulliva@eagle.esd189.wednet.edu>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: The Stuck CD
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9410141902.A27815-0100000@eagle>
The CD must have been warped or something. I took it back and got
another one. The new one works just fine. The other benefit I got is
that I have the question sheet again! I think I'll just keep this one
for the picture.
Thanks for all the input.
btw. I listened to the CD Constantly for a week before I realized that
it wouldn't come out.
Mike S.
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Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 00:47:10 -0400
From: Mozo21@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Release Party
Message-ID: <9410150037084223618@aol.com>
Wow! I just got back from the record release party here on Long Island.
Here's the specifics.
LaBrie, Petrucci, and Portnoy played acoustic. Mike had a 4 or 5 bongo set-up
with wind chimes and a mounted tambourine. John M. was there, but didn't
play.
They played 1 verse of Voices, then did the whole Silent Man. The other song
they did was Bad (the U2 song). James' voice sounded great. That's it 2-1/2
songs, then they sat down and signed some autographs.
I asked Mike if there were any triggered drum samples. He gave me a big smile
and said "No way". He seemed quite happy about this. I also asked him about
the IRC thing and he said it was really cool, but kinda slow. He said he had
to wait for the questions, and then it had to be typed and sent back. He
didn't really mind,though.
I asked James if anyone else sang on the album. He said "No one in the band,
but John Purnell sang back-up with me on the Silent Man."
I then asked if SDV was all him and he said it was, so I told him how much I
dig those vocals.
The only thing I asked Myung was if the mirror on the album cover was the
object the girl is holding on I&W and he said it's not the same. (I still
think it is- it's cooler that way:))
I didn't speak to Petrucci since I couldn't really think of a question.
But the coolest part of the night was before the show. Charlie Dominici was
there, and me and my friend spoke with him for about 20 minutes. When they
showed the Lie video on the monitors, Dominici sang along during the chorus.
He was a really nice guy and said that he had a demo that he was shopping to
some labels. He has a studio on Long Island and runs a music teaching
service. He told us he sang at Portnoy's wedding a month or so ago.
The acoustic set was brief, but worth the 7 bucks to get in. John P. sang
backing on the Silent Man, and sounded good.
That's all I remember right now.
Andy
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Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 00:58:29 -0400
From: DocLandau@aol.com
To: Ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Help!
Message-ID: <9410150058284234636@aol.com>
Okay, I love the great info on DT, but it seams the mail is pouring in, and I
need to unsubscribe, can anyone out there help me out?
Thanx!
DocLandau@AOL.com
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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 23:53:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matthew M Leger <mml@kepler.unh.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Live Samples
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9410142314.A24138-0100000@kepler.unh.edu>
With all of this talk of samples, I wonder how they will be handled
live? Will they leave them out completely or will they have them on DAT and
feed them in???
Guess I'll have to wait until Friday night in Boston...
Later,
Matt
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Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 01:09:34 -0400
From: Mozo21@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Release Party Revisited
Message-ID: <9410131656403188650@aol.com>
This is getting a bit silly.
I just heard that there is gonna be a record release party after all. It's at
a bar on Long Island called Mulcahy's. I think it's in Wantagh or Massapequa.
A local radio station WRCN is sponsoring it.
I don't know the freq. number of the station, so I can't even listen to find
out. The area code here is 516 if someone wants to get the number for
Mulcahy's.
I also heard they are going to play a few acoustic since Mike isn't showing
due to sickness.
I have no idea if any of this is true, but I figured I'd post anyway.
Damn- I almost forgot- it's tomorrow night (Friday) at 9 pm. I think I'll
just go down there tomorrow and try to get in.
Andy
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Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 01:06:53 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT support BBS
Message-ID: <199410150806.BAA27607@bud.indirect.com>
The Dream Theater support BBS "La Villa Strangiato" (hey, it's also a
Rush BBS, so it fits) has changed software from TAG 2.6c1 to Vision-X
.99c and I have changed the user file over. Your account name and
password will be the same, and it's still telnettable. There is a
semi-DOS shell loaded at login, use the simple DOS commands to check for
your account status (for the login password) to apply (no new user
password is needed) to log in, to log out, or to leave me mail.
Here are the nitty gritties again...
La Villa Strangiato
Sysop: Marabout (me)...handles are highly recommended.
Phone: 14.4k, 1-602-732-1239
Net:
1. telnet acssdial.inre.asu.edu (my 2400 baud outdial)
2. atx4dt8w7321239 (enter).
Speed and so forth is much better when you call direct, as I will soon
have a 28.8k v.everything modem on the line (payday folks, payday) and
the outdial will still creep at 2400. Still good for international
callers and anyone who's there for the messages and not the files.
Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com, marabout@genesis.mc.maricopa.edu
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Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 04:32:14 -0400
From: AirDance@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT Los Angeles show!
Message-ID: <9410150431594313401@aol.com>
This will most likely be old news by the time this note posts, but... :)
DT is playing the Palace (again:) in Hollywood, CA on Friday, December 9th.
Call the venue (213-462-3000) or Ticketbastar... I mean Ticketmaster, for
more info.
For those of you who live in the LA area, they had a bunch of neat-o keen
flyers announcing the show in Aron's (one of the best record shops in town,
BTW), if you want to go down and pick up a couple as souvenirs. :)
Jennifer
____________________________________________
air dance@aol.com mriodom@delphi.com
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Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 06:11:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: BILL LIVES HERE <MLEELUN@VAXC.STEVENS-TECH.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Release Party Revisited
Message-ID: <01HIAN0G54UAB7D79F@VAXC.STEVENS-TECH.EDU>
Ho do you unsubscribe?
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Date: 15 Oct 94 07:11:38 EDT
From: Jeremy Haynes <71035.1006@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:ytsejam@arastar.com" <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 554
Message-ID: <941015111138_71035.1006_GHI65-2@CompuServe.COM>
My first post to the "Jam", figured I throw up my top four Awake tunes FWIW:
1) CIAW
2) 6:00
3) Erotomania
4) SDV
Jer
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Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 10:39:31 -0400
From: PROGnosis1@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Jordan/Derek
Message-ID: <9410151039274383228@aol.com>
ERIC MOEGLING writes:
<<<What's with all the Jordan attention? I thought they ditched that idea
and went with Derek...am I wrong on this one...or are people still
misinformed?>>>
Jordan WAS offered the DT tour gig but turned it down to be with the Dixie
Dregs. It offers him a permanent spot right away and since the DD's only tour
a few months at a time he can work on his solo stuff in the interim. When
Jordan turned them down the guys went looking for another keyboardist and
went with Derek.
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Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 08:32:30 +0800
From: kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Release Party Revisited
Message-ID: <9410151532.AA28537@anthor.arastar.com>
> From: BILL LIVES HERE <MLEELUN@VAXC.STEVENS-TECH.EDU>
>
> Ho do you unsubscribe?
Send
unsubscribe ytsejam
to ytsejam-request@arastar.com
-- Ken Bibb "And I rolled the pages over kbibb@arastar.com And the wisdom just fell into my hands jester@crash.cts.com Now my heart bleeds the colour of roses" David Sylvian--"Colour of Roses"------------------------------
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 10:29:42 -0500 (EDT) From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam SERVER) Subject: Providence & Boston get togethers? Message-ID: <199410151429.KAA16441@rasp.cs.brandeis.edu>
Well, I just want to ask one more time to make sure that everyone knows... We are planning a get together at least before the Providence show and possibly before the Boston show. If anyone out there is interested in a get together and did not get a message from me for the Providence show, please let me know and I will send you the (few as of now) details about the get together (so far, I have myself, Brent Phillips & crew from MIT, Mike Masi, Tim Lodge, Chris Anderson (and band?) as well as Kaoru Kobayashi who is coming all the way over to the US for some shows).
Becuase Providence is a general admission show, at least a few of us might hang around during the show also.... I don't know...
Also, I am not sure if anyone is interested in a Boston get together, so please email me if there is any interest.
-- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Let's stare the problem right in the eye | | It's plagued me from coast to coast | | Racing the clock to please everyone | | All but the one who matters the most | | Dream Theater The Mirror Awake | | Get AWAKEned. Available in stores everywhere!!! | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Michael Burstin Brandeis University | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
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Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 13:53:23 -0400 From: AirDance@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Aftershow Activities Message-ID: <9410151350324464491@aol.com>
William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> asked:
>>>Hey did you see the comment about DT asking some girls to come to their apartment after their show... do you know anything about this? I mean I can't see them doing it, I'd hope they'd have higher moral values than this, especially since they're all married or getting married. Can you comment?<<<
Well, I really feel that what they do in their personal lives is none of my business, or anyone else's for that matter, but I can honestly say that I've never personally seen any of the band members participate in any "illicit" activities of that nature. On the contrary, the 1st time I met them, Mike's girlfriend, Marlene (who is now his wife), was with him and John P's girlfriend, Rena (who is now his wife also), was with him. They seem like a pretty sedate bunch to me. :)
Unless, of course, you want to count the time I witnessed Mike Portnoy & Alan Doss (of Galactic Cowboys) having a few too many beers and singing old Beatles songs nowhere near the right key. :)
Jennifer _____________________________________________ air dance@aol.com mriodom@delphi.com
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Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 13:53:49 -0400 From: AirDance@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Re: YTSEJAM digest 552 Message-ID: <9410151351174464818@aol.com>
Jones <Michael.S.Donnelly@lawrence.edu> asked:
>>>What do you think the odds are that fans will be able to stay afterwards and meet the guys in the band? I'm seeing the show November 4 in Milwaukee, and my friends and I would sell our souls for a chance to talk to them.<<<
If it's anything like the last tour, your chances are excellent. :) They usually make a point of greeting fans after the shows (Mike especially loves to talk to fans), unless one of them happens to be sick or they had a particularly bad night. Just wait around at the backstage door after the show, they'll come out. They're friendly people. :)
Jennifer _____________________________________________ air dance@aol.com mriodom@delphi.com
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Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 11:15:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Phil Felicia <FELICI53@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Why 6:00?!?!?!?! Message-ID: <01HIAXLJVONM9BVH99@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU>
>Return-path: <ytsejam@arastar.com> >Received: from vmbb.cts.com by SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU (PMDF V4.2-11 #8051) id > <01HI8ZUQED5S99DJ2P@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU>; Fri, 14 Oct 1994 01:58:16 EDT >Received: from anthor.arastar.com by vmbb.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) > id m0qvfeT-0000IFa; Thu, 13 Oct 94 22:58 PDT > >Can someone please tell me why it seems lik everyone is picking 6:00 in >there list of favorites? What do you see in that song? It
Because it's AMAZING :) I'm not positive why I like it so much...Probably because of the amount of energy in it. IT JUST KICKS ASS!!!
Just in case you're interested...
1. you guessed it, 6:00 2. SDV 3. Mirror/Lie <-- has to be taken as one song :) 4. LSOaD
> >Also, here is everyone homework assignment for tonight. > >GO LISTEN TO LEARNING TO LIVE!!!
Ummm....OK! I wish all homework was like that
Phil
=============================================================================== "I know all about the honor of God Mary Jane"
FELICI53@SNYBUFAA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU ===============================================================================
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Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 18:31:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark D. Scudder" <6705324@sunybroome.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 552 Message-ID: <01HIBCPHLPNM8ZE1YQ@sunybroome.edu>
Re: Sex is Death, Death is Sex...
This is gonna sound blindingly obvious, but is "Voices" is really about what *I* think it's about (which would be a person doubting his/her faith in popular religions), the lines "Sex is death/Death is Sex/Says it right here on my crucifix," might simply mean that the relgion(s) in question have put a lot of emphasis on sex (esp. sex other than for the express purpose of having a child) as being *very bad*. I took the line at face value. No reading-in necessary. It's a cynical line, that's the only real twist...he's "reading" the unwritten rules of his faith from his religious icon.
Mark D. Scudder
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Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 01:40:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Cloninger <ancl@freenet.scri.fsu.edu> To: ytsejaM - Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: NO DT in studio on HBB Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9410160103.A4633-0100000@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu>
As most will already be aware, as its almost over as i write this, tonights HBB has suddenly become QR "Promised Land" promo night, and DT has almost TOTALLY been ignored, apart from the 2nd showing of "Lie" and the replay of the album promo from last week. Since we were ripped off 2 weeks ago, and were REALLY looking forward to them being IN-STUDIO tonight, i cant help but wonder why QR was stuck in their place. Then again, im sure this weeks discussion will bring out all the answers...
Andrew (who STILL isnt AWAKE)
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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 1994 12:14:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Dario M Zagar <dmz2@columbia.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: ...more opinions! Message-ID: <Pine.3.89C.9410141216.B27736-0100000@merhaba.cc.columbia.edu>
Hey, guys, this is my first post here; I figured it was about time to put my $0.02 in! By the way, I saw DT with Marillion in '89 (in NYC) and it was incredible. Most of the crowd really didn't like them; I had never even heard of them but was completely blown away. (just an aside)
Is anyone else really sick of not hearing John Myung at all on DT albums? I thought he was neglected on I&W, but this is ridiculous. You can never hear him, and when you do, it's this really wishy-washy bass sound, with none of the punch of the bass sound on WDaDU (which wasn't great either) I just yearn to have a guitar solo with a bass sound behind it like Geddy Lee's circa MP or Signals-now that would be cool. It doesn't make sense that a band where musicianship is so important would let a amember be neglected like that.
Personally, my faves (in no order) are:
The Mirror (I love the SDV bit) AMBI (I consider it one tune) Scarred CiaW , though this list will certainly change.
I love SDV, but I think the samples are too long and really slow the song down rather than add to it. Does anyone else think it reminds them of Silent Lucidity? I think it totally does (especially the samples, like the middle section of SL). I also think it could be a surprise hit like SL (especially if they edited the samples. The E-Bowed guitar melody makes me weep instantly (is it in D-minor :) ?)
Well, if you're at the NYC show, see ya there. (A brief non-DT aside-if you like great guitar playing, you should check out Michael Hedges at the Bottom Line on 11/5 (or 11/6, if you are foolish enough to miss theFW show!)
Later, Dario
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