YTSEJAM Digest 558
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Concerts, parties and Kevin...
by M.J.Thomas-SE2@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk
2) one more time....
by Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
3) one more question.....
by Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
4) DT Tour Dates for Europe?
by k3058e1@cxmeta.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at (Obiltschnig Guenter)
5) "The silent man" TAB + survey
by Brian Nielsen <norman@iesd.auc.dk>
6) Re: bad production on awake?
by smm@uunet.uu.net (Steve Mansfield)
7) someone at canrem.com???
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
8) Headbanger's Ball
by "Mark D. Scudder" <6705324@sunybroome.edu>
9) Re: Concerts, parties and Kevin...
by Jeremy Longley <jcl1008@cus.cam.ac.uk>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 550
by mamurra@p117.informatik.uni-Bremen.de (Matthias Murra)
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 550
by mamurra@p117.informatik.uni-Bremen.de (Matthias Murra)
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 550
by mamurra@p117.informatik.uni-Bremen.de (Matthias Murra)
13) SURVEY: Send your Top Five of Awake to me !
by goebel@baracuda.inf.fu-berlin.de (Ties Goebel)
14) Awake favourites
by Keast Michael J <4mjk@qlink.queensu.ca>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 557
by mamurra@p117.informatik.uni-Bremen.de (Matthias Murra)
16) Re: sample from SDV
by Larry G Waterfield <mulgw1@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>
17) DT: _Live at the Metropolis_
by jking@loca.eece.unm.edu
18) Correction to DT: _Live at the Metropolis_
by jking@loca.eece.unm.edu
19) Re: DT Tour Dates for Macs?
by Larry G Waterfield <mulgw1@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>
20) tour dates in the SE???
by James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
21) Re: DT Tour Dates for Macs?
by kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
22) Awake impressions... (what else...)
by wen2@po.CWRU.Edu (Bill Nottingham)
23) Baltimore Concert?
by The Longshot <c2mxbir@fre.fsu.umd.edu>
24) What NEW songs I like, NEW sig
by Douglas Merrell <merrell@xi.cs.fsu.edu>
25) Re: Headbanger's Ball
by mgjones@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu (Michael Jones)
26) Petrucci is God
by Michael.R.Johander@lawrence.edu
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Topic No. 1
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 94 13:17:48 BST
From: M.J.Thomas-SE2@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Concerts, parties and Kevin...
Message-ID: <22993.9410181217@jw1.cs.bham.ac.uk>
Ok, ok......
Here's the deal lads (& lasses). I just can't cope with all this talk of
pre concert meetings, release parties and general chit chat about I've
met the guys/I've jammed with the guys/I'm best friends with the guys (No
offence Jennifer :) so here's what I propose... Send me lots and lots of
money so I can fly out to LA, stay with my sister and go to the gig in
December so that I can hang out with all you lovely people....:) Well, I
can hope, can't I....
On a slightly more serious note though, how about some pre concert get
togethers over here in the UK? And how about networking the concerts too?
I figure if the folks in America can drive hundreds of miles to see two
shows, we can drive hundreds of miles and see all of them, right? Hell,
with the chunnel in place, why not do all the French ones too! Obviously
we don't know the dates of the European tour yet, but I just thought I'd
test the water, so to speak.
On a seperate note, I don't know If anyone ever thanked Jennifer for
doing the "Write to Kevin" thing she did last month, so I'd just like to
say a big "cheers" for taking the time (no pun intended) to give us the
oppurtunity. It was, incidentally, the first piece of fan mail I've ever
been compelled to write. Has he actually received it all yet? Maybe some
of us might be interested in any comments he made ;)
Yours, pissed off coz I'm in England,
Matt.....:(
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 08:47:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: one more time....
Message-ID: <9410181250.AA15102@anthor.arastar.com>
uh....sorry about those last posts I put up, I
guess my screen is too big and the word wrap got
all messed up.
Anyway, in case people were too annoyed
to read it, I would like everyone who is going to
the NYC show on the 28th on here - and who would
like to meet up someplace beforehand to E-mail me
directly (BALKIEWI @ NJMSA.UMDNJ.EDU) with a response
like "Yeah, that sounds cool", or "Let's meet at <blah>"
or "F**k off, you desperate loser looking for friends"
Any (or at least most) replies would be
appreciated....
I'll post another thing early next week with
the time and the place for those who don't reply....
Later,
Al
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everything is immaterial ABALKIEW @ VAXC.STEVENS-TECH.EDU
you know that reality is immaterial
BALKIEWI @ NJMSA.UMDNJ.EDU well this is my reality......
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 08:50:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: one more question.....
Message-ID: <9410181253.AA15131@anthor.arastar.com>
This is for anyone who has a copy of the show
from the Warfield in San Francisco......
Does anyone know what the instrumental
intro. before they do "Learning to Live" is?
Does it have a name or is it just some random
thing?
Thanks,
Al Balkiewicz
vocals, Half Naked
NEXT SHOW: Gennaro's, Weehawken,NJ
Date TBA
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 12:16:25 +0100
From: k3058e1@cxmeta.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at (Obiltschnig Guenter)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT Tour Dates for Europe?
Message-ID: <199410181116.MAA19670@cxmeta.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at>
Hi there,
Does anybody know the DT Tour Dates for Europe, especially Austria and
Germany?
Thanks,
Guenter
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= Guenter "Obi" Obiltschnig "Macintosh Programmer & Keyboarder" =
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= SnailMail: Maria Elend 143 EMail: g.obiltschnig@jk.uni-linz.ac.at =
= A-9182 Maria Elend k3058e1@cxmeta.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at =
= Austria/Europe/Earth =
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= Voice: (43) 42 53 / 391 No Fax =
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 12:57:14 +0100
From: Brian Nielsen <norman@iesd.auc.dk>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: "The silent man" TAB + survey
Message-ID: <199410181157.MAA09481@micro.iesd.auc.dk>
>>>>> "Stefan" == Stefan Andersson <stefan-a@dsv.su.se> writes:
Stefan> On another note, I think it would be a good idea to do
Stefan> some kind of survey for the best songs off Awake,
Stefan> something like everybody votes their 5 tops or even list
Stefan> ALL the songs in order of personal taste. Unfortunately I
Stefan> don't have the time to arrange this, but perhaps somebody
Stefan> else is interested in doing this. What do you think?
I think a top five is a great idea, maybe we should make it a top 3. I
think most peoble will cheat and count the songs in A Mind Beside
Itself as one and Mirror-Lie as one, so a top 5 is too much. I
wouldn't like a list off all songs, because a such will change for
every listen, depending on ones mood.
But I think the list should wait a couple of months, as we are still
learning to live (sorry, couldn't resist :). I mean, we should take
the time (there it was again :) to let the songs grow. Only then can
we choose our favorites.
Just my opinion, anyway.
-- +------------------------------------------------+ | Brian Nielsen | | Department of Mathematics and Computer Science | | Aalborg University, Denmark | | | | email: norman@iesd.auc.dk | +------------------------------------------------+------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 08:54:02 -0400 (EDT) From: smm@uunet.uu.net (Steve Mansfield) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: bad production on awake? Message-ID: <QQxmdn11192.199410181254@rodan.UU.NET>
> Has anyone but me noticed the annoying high high high pitch in > Space Dye Vest? It occurs beginning at the OJ-quote and continues > until that string of samples is over. Most people who I've let > listen to it don't hear it but it bugs the shit out of me.. > > Anyone that does hear it, do you think it might be intentionally > done to grab your attention?
Yep, hear it, and we covered it last week. 8-) It sounds like a television being turned on. My roommate insists it's just a bad sampling, but I agree with the TV theory.
Steve Mansfield |Once you're touched you stand alone to face the bitter fight smm@uunet.uu.net |Once I reached for love but now I reach for life. Dream Theater - Learning to Live
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 09:46:22 -0500 (EDT) From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam SERVER) Subject: someone at canrem.com??? Message-ID: <199410181346.JAA29866@rasp.cs.brandeis.edu>
Sorry to be posting here but I don't know who is tryit to send me mail... I logged in this morning with 5 or 6 error messages coming to me from postmaster@canrem.com that looked like someone tried to reply to my post about the get together in Providence or Boston. If whoever tried to email me would please try again... All I got were the messages from your postmaster with quotes of my origional post...
-- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Let's stare the problem right in the eye | | It's plagued me from coast to coast | | Racing the clock to please everyone | | All but the one who matters the most | | Dream Theater The Mirror Awake | | Get AWAKEned. Available in stores everywhere!!! | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Michael Burstin Brandeis University | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 10:18:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark D. Scudder" <6705324@sunybroome.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Headbanger's Ball Message-ID: <01HIF2BMH1HU8ZE4UZ@sunybroome.edu>
Just wanted to throw in my two cents as well and say that I think the whole DT/HBB thing *sucks*. Somebody at MTV should lock Kennedy and Idalis in a room together and play Rush and Dream Theater at them until they promise to play only *good* music on that channel!
Anyway, I did see the video for Lie, which any MTV fan should know is a blessing in itself.
So is it possible to do *anything* about this crap that MTV pulled? I mean, the new QR album is *incredible* (heard it last night), and I Am I is just about the *worst* song on the album. Naturally, MTV is playing it constantly now. I don't understand why Megadeth doesn't get the actualy Haloween weekend (or are they? "I must be mixed up!") and they can put DT on this coming weekend. All I'll ask is that somebody out there who's going to talk to a member of the band before thie Saturday, ask them if anything's even been *planned*.
Noticably angered...but cynical enough to have expected as much, Mark
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 15:19:42 +0100 (BST) From: Jeremy Longley <jcl1008@cus.cam.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Concerts, parties and Kevin... Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.941018151841.17395A-100000@bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk>
On Tue, 18 Oct 1994 M.J.Thomas-SE2@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk wrote: > On a slightly more serious note though, how about some pre concert get > togethers over here in the UK? And how about networking the concerts too? > I figure if the folks in America can drive hundreds of miles to see two > shows, we can drive hundreds of miles and see all of them, right? Hell, > with the chunnel in place, why not do all the French ones too! Obviously > we don't know the dates of the European tour yet, but I just thought I'd > test the water, so to speak.
> Yours, pissed off coz I'm in England, > > Matt.....:( >
count me in! anyone know of any european dates ( i heard early new year; and dont really want to wait that long - hmmmm......)
Cheerz, Jezza. _ _ (_)___ ________ _| | Jeremy Longley - jcl1008@cus.cam.ac.uk | / -_)_ /_ / _` |_| Selwyn College _/ \___/__/__\__,_(_) Cambridge Sattinger's Law: |__/ It works better if you plug it in...
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 94 15:32:51 +0100 From: mamurra@p117.informatik.uni-Bremen.de (Matthias Murra) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 550 Message-ID: <9410181432.AA13192@p117.uni-bremen.de>
>I noticed that too - I bet they did get I&W from that line.
I thought they just took the album title from the line in "Wait For Sleep", the "Where images and words are running deep" bit.
Greets, Matt
| Matthias Murra | "Love is an act of blood | | Dpt. of Mathematics | And I'm bleeding | | University of Bremen | Pool in the shape of a heart" | | Germany | Dream Theater "Space-Dye Vest" |
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 94 15:41:34 +0100 From: mamurra@p117.informatik.uni-Bremen.de (Matthias Murra) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 550 Message-ID: <9410181441.AA13201@p117.uni-bremen.de>
>Wrong again...it's definetly NOT James...I also agree it's not John P. >(even though Silent Man is...it's not the same voice)...and after hearing >Kev's speaking voice many times...and listening closly...it's gotta be >him! I have no doubt in my mind about this!
I'm not sure about this, but I think at first it's Kevin, later on (I don't have the CD with me here :->, one line of the part I'm talking about goes like "Somehow I don't understand you ...") I believe James takes over.
Greets, Matt
| Matthias Murra | "Love is an act of blood | | Dpt. of Mathematics | And I'm bleeding | | University of Bremen | Pool in the shape of a heart" | | Germany | Dream Theater "Space-Dye Vest" |
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 94 15:52:55 +0100 From: mamurra@p117.informatik.uni-Bremen.de (Matthias Murra) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 550 Message-ID: <9410181452.AA13209@p117.uni-bremen.de>
>Am I the only who ranks CIAW this highly? I think everything about the >song is perfect...the vocal melodies, the chorus, the solo section, the
Nope, I would put it right there, too. :-) I think the chorus is just awesome, especially at the end, when he sings, "Refused by the world", just love it. And before I forget, here are my top 4 songs:
1. SDV 2. Caught in a Web (*right* behind SDV :->) 3. Lie (yes, I like it, played *loud*, preferrably :->) 4. Erotomania / Innocence Faded / Lifting Shadows of a Dream (and about every other song on the album :>)
I really haven't had the time to listen to "Scarred" closely yet, so it might among the top three, too (later ...).
Greets, Matt
| Matthias Murra | "Love is an act of blood | | Dpt. of Mathematics | And I'm bleeding | | University of Bremen | Pool in the shape of a heart" | | Germany | Dream Theater "Space-Dye Vest" |
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 94 15:57 MET From: goebel@baracuda.inf.fu-berlin.de (Ties Goebel) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: SURVEY: Send your Top Five of Awake to me ! Message-ID: <m0qxFyp-00004pC@baracuda.inf.fu-berlin.de>
Hi!
I think Stefan`s idea from the last issue is good: It`s time for a poll! Hey everybody, send your personal Top Five of Awake songs to me! Count "A Mind beside Itself" and Mirror/Lie as one or don`t ... as you like. I'll find a way to count the votes. :)
Ties
====================================== Ties Goebel goebel@inf.fu-berlin.de ======================================
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 11:12:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Keast Michael J <4mjk@qlink.queensu.ca> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Awake favourites Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9410181130.A10437-0100000@qlink>
This is my first post to ytsejam (I just joined a few days ago), and I just want to say that it's great to know that there are so many other DT fans out there: I was starting to think I was the only one! I of course bought Awake the day it came out, and here are my favourites so far: 1. Space-Dye Vest 2. 6:00 3. The Mirror/Lie 4. Caught In A Web BTW, I was very glad to see that I Mother Earth will be opening for DT when they play Toronto. Those of you who have never heard IME, you are urged to search out their amazing debut "Dig"--HIGHLY recommended!
P.S. I am interested in hearing Fates Warning. Can I get some suggestions about which is their best album?
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 94 16:32:10 +0100 From: mamurra@p117.informatik.uni-Bremen.de (Matthias Murra) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 557 Message-ID: <9410181532.AA13220@p117.uni-bremen.de>
>Has anyone but me noticed the annoying high high high pitch in >Space Dye Vest? It occurs beginning at the OJ-quote and continues >until that string of samples is over. Most people who I've let >listen to it don't hear it but it bugs the shit out of me..
Yep, I've noticed that, too. Maybe it's not sampled that well ... :-(
Greets, Matt
| Matthias Murra | "Love is an act of blood | | Dpt. of Mathematics | And I'm bleeding | | University of Bremen | Pool in the shape of a heart" | | Germany | Dream Theater "Space-Dye Vest" |
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 11:37:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Larry G Waterfield <mulgw1@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: sample from SDV Message-ID: <199410181637.AA09591@ecom4.ecn.bgu.edu>
> > I just checked out my AOL account, and the DT folder has EXPLODED... > lots of discussion... It seems that someone has narrowed down one of > the SDV samples (the one about Houston and the pools) to something > from Conan O'Brian... I have never watched him... does he sound like > that... if he does, we might have a winner here...
Dude, you beat me. I was listening to it (SDV) yesterday, and that's exactly what I was thinking. I can't figure out who he's talking to (doesn't sound like his sidekick Andy), but I think it's Conan. Some confirmation would be cool.
> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Michael Burstin Brandeis University | > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
Toodles! Glenn
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 94 11:53:06 MDT From: jking@loca.eece.unm.edu To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: DT: _Live at the Metropolis_ Message-ID: <9410181753.AA11675@loca.eece.unm.edu>
Well, I must say I am becoming more impressed with our local Best Buy -- they've recently remodled and really increased their selection of stuff. Anyway, I went in this morning to pick up the new Queensryche (only $9.96! Wow!) and just for grins looked to see what they had of DT...
Not only did they have _I&W_ and _Awake_, but they even had _WD&DU_ and two, that's TWO, editions of _LatM_. I know, this may be no great find to many of you out there, but in Albuquerque NM this is pretty surprising -- it took me quite some time just to find _WD&DU_ (once I found out via ytsejam that it existed) and I'd never even seen _LatM_ around here.
OK, so here's the deal. The two editions of _LatM_ were from Germany and Japan. Looking over the packaging there didn't appear to be any difference except that the German one was $14 and the Japanese one was $22 (!). So you can probably guess which one I bought. Although I likely wouldn't buy it anyway, I was curious if anyone could tell me if there is a difference between these two (e.g., bonus track, something neat enclosed in the package, etc.). My guess is no, seeing as how there likely would have been a sticker or something on the Japanese one to help justify that $8 difference in price. But if there is a difference, I'd be interested in finding out...
(Germany must have some cheap way of making CD's cheap; the version of _WD&DU_ they had was make in Germany and was only $16 -- the one I bought previously (made in France) was $22! Grr...)
See ya,
Jon
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 94 11:55:36 MDT From: jking@loca.eece.unm.edu To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Correction to DT: _Live at the Metropolis_ Message-ID: <9410181755.AA11678@loca.eece.unm.edu>
Heh heh...Can you guess which track I was listening to? That should have been _Live at the Marquee_. Sorry for any inconvenience that this caused... :-)
See ya,
Jon
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 13:36:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Larry G Waterfield <mulgw1@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: DT Tour Dates for Macs? Message-ID: <199410181836.AA19715@ecom3.ecn.bgu.edu>
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> ============================================================================= > = Guenter "Obi" Obiltschnig "Macintosh Programmer & Keyboarder" = > = = > = SnailMail: Maria Elend 143 EMail: g.obiltschnig@jk.uni-linz.ac.at = > = A-9182 Maria Elend k3058e1@cxmeta.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at = > = Austria/Europe/Earth = > = = > = Voice: (43) 42 53 / 391 No Fax = > =============================================================================
A Mac programmer?? You can do that with those things? Gee, you learn something everyday. (I'd put one those damn smiley faces here to show that I'm just kidding, but those things infuriate me)
Austria, huh? Nice to have you aboard. Does anyone know how many countries our esteemed list is read in? I've seen the UK, Germany, Austria, Japan, Australia, and the US of course. How many did I miss? Let's hear from you guys in Tanzania!
I've also been wondering how many people subscribe. Do any of the Ytsejam gods keep track? When did it start? Just wondering.
Toodles! Glenn
I left my .sig outside in the sandbox last night, and it got rained on. <sniff>
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 18:07:52 -0400 (EDT) From: James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: tour dates in the SE??? Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9410181849.A25432-7100000@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
AHHHHHHHHH!!!!! Is DT or FW playing in the Southeast or what?
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 22:12:55 +0800 From: kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: DT Tour Dates for Macs? Message-ID: <9410190512.AA18636@anthor.arastar.com>
> From: Larry G Waterfield <mulgw1@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> > > I've also been wondering how many people subscribe. Do any of the > Ytsejam gods keep track? When did it start? Just wondering.
It started shortly after Images & Words came out. Brian and Jason thought it would be a good idea, I set it up, the rest is history ;)
There are 459 subscribers from many countries. My guess is that US and Japan are the most common.
-- Ken Bibb "Upon a wave of summer kbibb@arastar.com A hilltop paved with gold jester@crash.cts.com We shut our eyes and make the promises we hold" David Sylvian--"Colour of Roses"
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 12:12:04 -0400 From: wen2@po.CWRU.Edu (Bill Nottingham) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Awake impressions... (what else...) Message-ID: <199410181612.MAA17920@roo.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Finally staggered out to the store weekend before last and got it... listened to it non-stop for about a week, and then made the mistake of loaning it to a friend. I may never see it again...
As for the 'requisite' top four:
1) SDV 2) 6:00 3) The Mirror 4) Erotomania
As compared to the last two albums, it seems less complex musically to me. I'm not sure how many other people feel the same way. Probably it's just that I'm used to what they do by now (not that it's any less brilliant or I like it any less, I've just come to expect it as 'normal' from them.)
On the other hand, I do, at this moment, like it better than WD&DU. Most likely because I really prefer James to Charlie. If I could get a boot with all of the really good stuff from WD&DU with James singing, I'd be thrilled... (i.e. FiL, KH, LF&GA, OaMoT...)
Kevin was a huge loss, not just from musicianship, but I really enjoyed his writing on the album (SDV, 6:00...). I'm not sure where they could find someone who could write the way he could. However, I'm looking forward for his solo(?) project... anyone with news?
I'm still not thrilled with the production overall, although it's improving. M&M still seem to get lost in the mix, although I could be mistaking some of Kevin's stuff as JP's.
SDV is a classic... people who have never heard of Dream Theater immediately start asking 'What's that' when it comes on. It's the main reason the person mentioned above wanted to borrow the CD... couldn't get it out of his head.
However, there are a couple of things that I don't particularly care for, in particular IF and LSoaD. They're basically take-it-or-leave-it songs, kinda like AL and TOwHtSTS, IMHO. I also could get really sick of the Silent Man, if it got played excessively. (acoustic does that to me)
All in all, I think it's my favorite album of the year, by far.
Bill
-- "Are you about to drag our brother off to a bleak nether-realm of despair where the future is nothing but an endless sea of anguish and horrible misery? "Yes." "We want to go too!"
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 12:33:10 EDT From: The Longshot <c2mxbir@fre.fsu.umd.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Baltimore Concert? Message-ID: <0098620C.E0B7EF20.19981@fre.fsu.umd.edu>
I though I saw someone say that there is a concert in Baltimore next week. Can somebody confirm this in private E-mail? I just got back on after a long search. Can someone also tell me if there is a Pittsburgh or Cleveland show and details.
SDV is one of my favorite songs from the album, and it is the one that brings up the most questions:
1.) Who sings this? (It doesn't sound like LaBrie to me....) 2.) The first quote ("He doesn't know what love is...") sounds very familiar to me, but I can't seem to identify it. Has anyone else? 3.) What is a Space-Dye Vest?
Right now, Scarred is my favorite song. It just rocks. It is too bad that they picked Lie for their first single. It just isn't one of my favorites. They still need to improve their videos too.
Jason Birzer "The Longshot" c2mxbir@fre.fsu.umd.edu Frostburg State University
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 94 13:00:35 EDT From: Douglas Merrell <merrell@xi.cs.fsu.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: What NEW songs I like, NEW sig Message-ID: <199410181700.NAA25943@xi.cs.fsu.edu>
hello DTHEADS(tm),
YEAH! This is an awesome day for all Queensryche fans! OCT. 18th is the day for the Promised Land.
Well, I would like to preface my selections with this:
I cannot find anything un-progressive on AWAKE, so the following songs are just the most appealing and relevant songs from my Point of View.
1) Space Dye Vest 2) Scarred 3) Lifting Shadows off a Dream 4) Voices--A Mind Beside Itself
On another note: A BIG Foot in the Mouth goes to me for not checking the quotation from my favorite lyricist, Neil Peart. I was not looking at the lyrics that were printed up at home. It was purely an oversight on my part. So, thanks for bringing it to my attention. I will try not to embarrass myself like that again!! And, I guess it wasn't up to me to tell Mike that his .sig was wrong, so SORRY MIKE.
Well, now that that's out of the way. Check out the new one.
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 15:38:10 -0400 (EDT) From: mgjones@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu (Michael Jones) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Headbanger's Ball Message-ID: <9410181938.AA26610@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu>
Mark D. Scudder wrote: > I don't understand why Megadeth doesn't get the actualy Haloween > weekend (or are they? "I must be mixed up!") and they can put DT on this > coming weekend. All I'll ask is that somebody out there who's going to talk > to a member of the band before thie Saturday, ask them if anything's even > been *planned*.
From my understanding watching HBB on Saturday, Megadeth will be on for the next 2 weekends (now I like Megadeath some...but come on!).
Anyways, a little report from my end about DT and QR...When DT came out, I went to the store to pick it up after midnight and stood behind a big line of Smashing Pumpkins fans. I got to the counter and asked for the Dream Theater, they replied, "Who? Is that a new album?". After shuffling through their new stuff, they found it. Today (last night) QR was released...and they sold out of all of them last night (not sure how many they had). Now if only DT would get the same recognition as QR.... ______________________________________________________________________ Michael G. Jones <Finger Me for PGP Key> Miami University, Oxford, OH MGJones@NeXTSrv.CAS.MUOhio.Edu http://nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu/~mgjones ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 17:47:05 -0600 (CST) From: Michael.R.Johander@lawrence.edu To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Petrucci is God Message-ID: <01HIFJ65TXIW9JKWG3@lawrence.edu>
Hey, everyone! Since this is my first posting, I'll start out with my four faves from Awake 1.Scarred 2.Erotomania 3.Innocence Faded 4.SDV
Of course, that will probably change as soon as this is posted, but that's OK. This whole album kick ass, anyway. I am an avid guitar conesuer. I have been totally facinated by player like Satriani, Vai, and Malmsteen for years. Being a guitarist myself, I love to listen to player who are total masters of their instrument. Then, about a year and a half ago, I was turned on to Dream Theatre. I can honestly say that I was in awe! I've never heard such incredible musicianship. I was used to great players doing records that feature their incredible skills as individuals. But, DT is a whole band full of masters who not only play incredible solo lines, but they are all flying around IN HARMONY with each other. I know you all know this, so I'll get to my point. As I said before, I am into all the "guitar gods" and their music. But John Petrucci is a perfect conglomeration of all these players. There's his line in LIE that is totally Satriani, the neo-classical section in EROTOMANIA that is unmistakably Yngwie, and many other spots that are reminicient of players like these. But John doesn't just cop their lines, he somehow takes the best parts of these other players' styles and uses them to enhance his own incredible style and virtuosity. He uses the techniques pioneered by other players as building blocks and uses them in totally new ways, ways that are exclusively Petrucci. I've been totally inspired, not only as a guitar player, but as a whole musician. I'm looking foreward to see DT play in Milwaukee on NOV. 4. I can't wait. See ya!
Mike J Lawrence University
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