YTSEJAM Digest 559
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: DT: _Live at the Metropolis_
by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
2) Re: DT: _Live at the Metropolis_
by mgjones@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu (Michael Jones)
3) Re: Concerts, parties and Kevin...
by "Martin Heath" <mheath@morgan.com>
4) Re: DT: _Live at the Marquee_
by G-Man <gmsanbo@strauss.udel.edu>
5) HBB--October 22nd
by buffalo@panix.com (C man)
6) Dream Theater Kit Giveaway
by buffalo@panix.com (C man)
7) Innocence faded
by Steve Fuller <sfuller@worf.infonet.net>
8) A Silent Fan no Longer
by "Debra D. Hanson 813-332-1969" <HANSOND@mail.firn.edu>
9) Promised Land
by MikeP81576@aol.com
10) Scanning
by mwibach@students.wisc.edu (Michael Ibach)
11) Re: sample from SDV
by Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>
12) Re: Concerts, parties and Kevin
by AirDance@aol.com
13) Finally...
by Jean-nicolas Poussart <ejp2570@umoncton.ca>
14) 1 ticket available for Boston show this friday
by sanfordb@ariad.com (Ben Sanford)
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 558
by "Mark D. Scudder" <6705324@sunybroome.edu>
16) YTSEJAM digest 558
by Jeremy Haynes <71035.1006@compuserve.com>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 558
by Matthias Murra <mamurra@Informatik.Uni-Bremen.DE>
18) Ytse subscribers
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
19) AWAKE...CHART #5
by Mats Rydstr\vm <d94-mry@nada.kth.se>
20) Voices: I need a new pair of underwear
by toscano@SDSC.EDU
21) Space Dye Vest
by William Kriski <wkriski@enci.ucalgary.ca>
22) re: DT: _Live at the Metropolis_
by Bill Polymenakos <Bill_Polymenakos%notes@sb.com>
23) AWAKE hits the charts
by katwell@allegro.cs.tufts.edu (Kenneth E. Atwell)
24) RE: Promised Land
by "Debra D. Hanson 813-332-1969" <HANSOND@mail.firn.edu>
25) Re: DT: _Live at the Metropolis_
by polzin edward george <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu>
26) Re: HBB--October 22nd
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
27) Re: sample from SDV
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
28) samples, etc
by "Jason K. Schechner" <jks2x@fermi.clas.virginia.edu>
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Topic No. 1
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 18:03:36 PDT
From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: DT: _Live at the Metropolis_
Message-ID: <199410190103.SAA17616@netcom10.netcom.com>
Man, you'd be surprised Jon, Albuquerque, New Mexico I would consider one
THE best places to get imports and hard to find shit!!!
Better than here in stupid ole LA anyways...
-The Doc
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 22:41:38 -0400 (EDT) From: mgjones@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu (Michael Jones) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: DT: _Live at the Metropolis_ Message-ID: <9410190241.AA29631@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu>
jking@loca.eece.unm.edu wrote: > likely wouldn't buy it anyway, I was curious if anyone could tell me if > there is a difference between these two (e.g., bonus track, something > neat enclosed in the package, etc.). My guess is no, seeing as how
Well...never having seen the German version, all I can say is that the Japenese version has an insert in it that has all the lyrics on one side and a bunch of stuff in Japenese on the other (with band names sprinkled through out it like RUSH and Galactic Cowboys and a bunch of others. Anyone fluent in Japenese know what all that is saying?).
> (Germany must have some cheap way of making CD's cheap; the version of > _WD&DU_ they had was make in Germany and was only $16 -- the one I > bought previously (made in France) was $22! Grr...)
I'm just annoyed that I had to pay $17 for the German one because my US one (which I bought when it came out) got ripped off (along with 90 other CD's and a CD player *sigh*). ______________________________________________________________________ Michael G. Jones <Finger Me for PGP Key> Miami University, Oxford, OH MGJones@NeXTSrv.CAS.MUOhio.Edu http://nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu/~mgjones ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 21:56:42 -0400 From: "Martin Heath" <mheath@morgan.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Concerts, parties and Kevin... Message-ID: <9410191056.ZM20765@morgan.com>
On Oct 17, 11:13pm, Jeremy Longley wrote: > Subject: Re: Concerts, parties and Kevin... > > On Tue, 18 Oct 1994 M.J.Thomas-SE2@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk wrote: > > On a slightly more serious note though, how about some pre concert get > > togethers over here in the UK? And how about networking the concerts too? > > count me in! anyone know of any european dates ( i heard early new year; > and dont really want to wait that long - hmmmm......)
People in the UK: hi, I currently waffle from Japan but I'm losing this privilege at the end of the month. I will be back in the UK from December, without internet access. I would be more than happy to attend concerts/get togethers etc in the London area (or not too far away). Give me a ring from the beginning of Dec on 081-567-2927. This has an answering machine (currently) with a message from my sister on it. Thanks,
Martin.
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 22:06:29 -0400 (EDT) From: G-Man <gmsanbo@strauss.udel.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: DT: _Live at the Marquee_ Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9410182235.A11811-0100000@strauss.udel.edu>
I think the only difference (besides price) between the German and Japanese versions of LatM is that the German has Surrounded where the Japanese has Another Day.
G
| Garrett M Sanborne Univ of Delaware | "I can't hold on any longer | | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- | These feelings keep growing | | Dream Theater * Rush * Queensryche * | stronger." | | * Led Zeppelin * Metallica * etc ... | - Dream Theater, Caught in a Web |
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 22:27:11 -0400 From: buffalo@panix.com (C man) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: HBB--October 22nd Message-ID: <aac9a88e2902100495ef@[198.7.7.109]>
Stinkin' MTV. Just heard that the bumped appearance will actually appear this Saturday night (10/22). Oh well.
On another note, thanks for the radio calls--keep up the heat...it's working; 104.3 in NY is playing "Lie" with gusto.
C man
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 22:27:19 -0400 From: buffalo@panix.com (C man) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Dream Theater Kit Giveaway Message-ID: <aac9b2d62a0210040063@[198.7.7.109]>
OK, I've got ten extra Dream Theater packages (CDs, poster, sticker, photo, etc.) to give away. If you've already been told that you'll be receiving one of these kits you can skip this message. If you'd like to receive one of these kits, here's what you do:
1. Type your "Top 10 Reasons Why Dream Theater's _Awake_ Has Not Left My CD player In 3 Weeks"
2. Post your top ten list to either alt.rock-n-roll or alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive or rec.music.misc and email a copy to me as well (type "Dream Theater Top 10" in the Subject line of your email)
3. Enter on one line (or two, if it doesn't fit on one):
<First Name> tab <Last Name> tab <Street/Apt> tab <City> tab <State> tab <Zip> tab <email address or ID number>
Lucky recipients will be picked at random and notified on this list within a few weeks.
This note will expire on November 4th. Allow six weeks for delivery.
Ytse,
C-man
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 21:37:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Fuller <sfuller@worf.infonet.net> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Innocence faded Message-ID: <199410190237.VAA17869@worf.infonet.net>
I've been thinking about the instrumental portion of this song since the first time that I heard it and after listening to it again tonight I've come to the conclusion that this portion of the album just sounds BIG! Big in the sense that everything is well balanced and that it doesn't sound like 4 instruments playing, and the keyboards just have this HUGE bouyant "I'm really holding all of this together" kind of feel. IMHO this is about the best part of the album. Really well written with nothing sounding like it's out of place or unneeded.
Also, is it just me, or does the last chord in IF sound as if it could be held over to the beginning of Erotomania?
Steve Fuller
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 22:23:47 EST From: "Debra D. Hanson 813-332-1969" <HANSOND@mail.firn.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: hansond@mail.firn.edu Subject: A Silent Fan no Longer Message-ID: <E1211ZVLKWKBMT*/R=FIRNVX/R=A1/U=HANSOND/@MHS>
It's not my first post, but it's been awhile. I decided I coulddn't stand just lurking anymore. Now that I've listened to Awake for six weeks, I think I've chosen my favorites: 1. SDV (and Kevin is still my hero!) 2. 6:00 3. Voices/Silent Man 4. Lifting Shadows
While I've learned much from each of you regarding the technical aspect of Dream Theater's music (your comments make me go back and listen to pieces of songs and pick up bass lines, guitar riffs, etc) my initial reaction to DT's music is from a purely emotional level!
Having recieved the advance tape of Awake just after hearing of Kevin's departure, I spent the first few listens in tears - feeling the obvious sadness and pain expressed in songs like SDV. I &W was the same for me - reaching inside and pulling emotions to the surface. It is this aspect of DT's music that sets them apart (for me) from ALL other bands. Togethr, these five musicians have created pure magic.
Thanks to all of you on the list for continuing to enlighten me with your own opinions and musical insights :) You're the best!
Deb Hanson Hansond@mail.firn.edu
"and nobody knows what they want 'til they finally let it all go..." -6:00 - Awake
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 23:32:20 -0400 From: MikeP81576@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Promised Land Message-ID: <9410182211526512769@aol.com>
Not to turn this into a QR list, but I never realized how much I love AWAKE until I heard Promised Land. I should reserve judgement until I've heard it some more, but my first impression was, "This is what I waited four years for?" Most of these songs are so moody, they make Della Brown sound like a peppy pop tune. A lot of people loved Empire (myself included), but they also take a lot of shit for it. I don't think this album will help in that respect.
To salvage a little DT content, the two John's are interviewed in the November issue of Guitar World (and they chose to put THE ARTIST FORMERLY KNOWN AS PRINCE on the cover - ARRRGGHHH!!!!!). Anyway, Myung does a fair amout of the talking and had some interesting things to say, but the real jem was when the interviewer asked Petrucci about being slammed by the Blind Melon idiots. Petrucci handled it with class (what would you expect) by saying, "I think most musicians who are really into music and studying and expanding are probably way more open-minded than people who are defensive and unwilling to accept other kinds of music." And that was it. Just thought that might be of interest.
Mike P (not the drummer)
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Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 23:44:40 -0500 From: mwibach@students.wisc.edu (Michael Ibach) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Scanning Message-ID: <aaca0e6b00021004e393@[144.92.184.64]>
Greetings. I would be willing to scan stuff in for people on the mailing list. Email me and we'll discuss it.
(insert mushy closing comment here) Mike
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Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 00:26:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: sample from SDV Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9410190032.A27062-0100000@bigcat>
Call me crazy, but I think this sample kinda sounds like something from MST3K...but who knows.
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ERIC MOEGLING: emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu as297@freenet.hsc.colorado.edu
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Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 03:59:50 -0400 From: AirDance@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Concerts, parties and Kevin Message-ID: <9410190253116669344@aol.com>
Matt Thomas <M.J.Thomas-SE2@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>Here's the deal lads (& lasses). I just can't cope with all this talk of pre concert meetings, release parties and general chit chat about I've met the guys/I've jammed with the guys/I'm best friends with the guys (No offence Jennifer :)<<<
None taken. :) I *wish* I was best friends with them, then I'd have a lot more information to offer! ;)
>>>so here's what I propose... Send me lots and lots of money so I can fly out to LA, stay with my sister and go to the gig in December so that I can hang out with all you lovely people....:) Well, I can hope, can't I....<<<
That would be great, I hope someone here wins the lottery in your behalf! ;)
I *was* thinking about how cool it would be to get together w/some Los Angeles YJammers before or after the LA show. E-mail me if any of you are interested in that kind of thing, we'll grab a pizza or something. :) Oh, and if any of you plan on attending ProgFest, let me know also, I'll be there both days as well.
>>>On a seperate note, I don't know If anyone ever thanked Jennifer for doing the "Write to Kevin" thing she did last month, so I'd just like to say a big "cheers" for taking the time (no pun intended) to give us the oppurtunity.<<<
I have had many people says thanks privately, but public acknowledgement is always appreciated as well. ;) It was a pleasure to be able to make it happen and you are all most welcome. :)
>>>It was, incidentally, the first piece of fan mail I've ever been compelled to write.<<<
Impressive. :) I was quite overwhelmed by the outpouring of support and *many* thanks again to all who responded. If there were some of you that missed this "write to Kevin" thing the first time around for whatever reason, the offer still stands. I'll keep compiling the letters & sending them to him as long as they keep coming. :)
>>>Has he actually received it all yet? Maybe some of us might be interested in any comments he made ;)<<<
I sent it off as scheduled (after binding all of the notes together in a nice folder w/title page & everything, of course :) and will be sure to let everyone here know when I hear from him again. In my own personal letter that I sent w/the package, I made a point of letting him know that if he had any sort of message for YJ in response to the letters, or leaving the band, his future plans, etc., that I would be more than glad to relay it for him to this list. As soon as I hear something, you will all know. :)
>>>Yours, pissed off coz I'm in England,
Matt.....:(<<<
:( Awwwww... don't worry, they'll get there eventually. :) Thanks for writing such a complimentary note, even though you were pissed off at the time. :)
Jennifer __________________________________________________ air dance@aol.com mriodom@delphi.com
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Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 09:52:21 -0300 (ADT) From: Jean-nicolas Poussart <ejp2570@umoncton.ca> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Finally... Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9410190939.A19973-0100000@bosoleil.ci.umoncton.ca>
Well, we finally got DT in Canada... Two weeks later!! I hate it when they do that, I don't know why it's the same date. And of course, I come from a small city so when I ask record stores for DT, they say, "Who??". Oh well, at least now I've got it too. I knew practically everything about it before I got it...
I really like Awake, but it's hard to compare with I&W because it's different. The technicality is the same, but James' voice and melodies (mostly keyboard playing) are not the same. The keyboard sound is more of that like an organ or something (especially in 6:00). But overall, it's a great album and I love it. They never cease to amaze me.
My fave 4 are:
1. Caught In A Web 2. Scarred 3. Space-Dye Vest 4. The Mirror/Lie
Voices came close to getting the 4 spot. That's a really good song. The only song I don't really enjoy on the album is The Silent Man. My favorite moments are the extended solo at the end of Lie, the chorus of CiaW and the part where he says "Blood heal me, Fear change me' in Scarred. That's the coolest sig change!!!!!!! BTW, someone here said he didn't know if he liked SDV better than QR's Someone Else???? Well, they are not comparable. Granted, Someone Else? is nice, but is not in the same league as SDV!!! I bought the QR CD yesterday, and it's pretty good, but I'll have to give it a few more listens, because I fail to see what's so great about it yet.
Oh, in one more non-DT related note, did anyone post the location for the Jim Matheos (FW) IRC conference yet?? Could someone please let me know?? Thankx!
Vinny
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Date: Wed, 19 Oct 94 09:46:51 EDT From: sanfordb@ariad.com (Ben Sanford) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: 1 ticket available for Boston show this friday Message-ID: <9410191346.AA25065@ariad.com>
Hi all: I have one ticket available for this Friday's show (10-21-94) at the Berklee Performance Center. It's in row L in the orchestra section, and I'm asking $18.50 (face value) for it.
If you're interested, please email me privately at sanfordb@ariad.com and include your name, addresses (email + snail), and a phone number where you can be reached. No bidding war, first come first served.
Thanks,
Ben Sanford. sanfordb@ariad.com
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Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 10:12:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark D. Scudder" <6705324@sunybroome.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 558 Message-ID: <01HIGGGPWSWI8ZE54C@sunybroome.edu>
In regards to the "Conan O'Brien" sample in SDV, I did something neat last night. I'm getting new main channel speakers for my stereo soon, so I took one of my old ones and hooked it up through my "center channel" outputs (it's a Dolby Pro Logic surround system) and I played SDV through only the center channel.
Here's the logic. Center channel speakers are meant to take only the *monaurally mixed* signals, and leave the rest to the main and surround speakers. This naturally makes vocals -- and *samples* -- a helluva lot clearer.
I've been listening to the 180/Houston sample, and it seems like after he says, "it's a *dry* heat," I could have sworn I heard a studio audience *laugh*! It's probably impossible to hear without a center channel, but somebody asked for confirmation that the sample was Conan. It very well could be.
Mark Scudder
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Date: 19 Oct 94 10:32:51 EDT From: Jeremy Haynes <71035.1006@compuserve.com> To: "INTERNET:ytsejam@arastar.com" <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: YTSEJAM digest 558 Message-ID: <941019143251_71035.1006_GHI112-1@CompuServe.COM>
[Keast Michael Said ] >>P.S. I am interested in hearing Fates Warning. Can I get some >>suggestions about which is their best album? <<
I personally think that *No Exit* is their best album, but I love them *ALL*...Here is a little capslized review of each (sorry for the Non-DT-Topic guys):
NIGHT ON BROCKEN/SPECTRE WITHIN/AWAKEN THE GUARDIAN - I put these first three albums together because they are all very similar in style...All feature original lead vocalist John Arch and all are in the early Iron Maiden vain ("Killers"/Paul Dianno era)...There are some true FW classics on these records including "Damnation", "The Apparition", "Fata Morgana" etc. - If you like early Metal (with lots of wizards and warlocks type lyrics ala Ronnie James Dio) mixed with a technical/progressive edge then these albums are for you....
NO EXIT - The debut of current lead singer Ray Alder and last album with drummer Steve Zimmerman, this record runs the gamut from all out crunch on "Anarchy Divine" to the beautiful Epic "The Ivory Gate Of Dreams" which clocks a whopping 21:25....This is not their most *accessible* album (for non-ProgMetal fans) except for "Silent Cries" which recieved *some* airplay, but this is the epitome of all things Metal <g>
PERFECT SYMMETRY - This album marks the debut of current drummer Mark Zonder (of Warlord fame), he adds an amazingly technical touch to their music. Symmetry also marked an end of the real "heavy" Fates Warning sound and a move to a more orchestrated (lots of clean guitar and even some Keys [courtesy of Kev Moore <sigh>] and Violin) and progressive songrwriting ala Rush...This album features their first semi-Commercial hit with "Through Different Eyes", and perhaps the greatest FW song ever recorded "At Fates Hands"....
PARALLELS - Without question the most commercially accessible FW album to date, if you like *big* hooks/choruses and lotsa memorable melodies then this one is for you...The production (by Terry Brown of Rush fame) is crystal clear, and there really isn't a bad track (IMHO) on the whole album..."Life In Still Water" is of particular note to DT fans because James sings Back-up on it....."Eye To Eye" should have been a "hit", but their label "flaked out" and provided ZERO support....
INSIDE OUT - Their latest release, a terrific combination of PS/Parallels era Fates with Brocken/Spectre/Guardian era Fates, due in part to the return of Bill Metoyer (who worked on their early albums) as Producer...There are some also some *great* hooks on this record ("Oustide Looking In", "Shelter Me") as well as some really progressive stuff ("Monument")...Since I've only had for about 3 weeks (less) I can't go into real detail, but I love it <g>
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Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 15:41:13 +0100 From: Matthias Murra <mamurra@Informatik.Uni-Bremen.DE> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 558 Message-ID: <199410191441.PAA20828@bettina.informatik.uni-Bremen.de>
>the part I'm talking about goes like "Somehow I don't understand you ..."
Oops, as many of you may have noticed, this is the wrong song. :-) The line above is from "Scarred", not SDV ...
Greets, Matt
| Matthias Murra | "Love is an act of blood | | Dpt. of Mathematics | And I'm bleeding | | University of Bremen | Pool in the shape of a heart" | | Germany | Dream Theater "Space-Dye Vest" |
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Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 10:42:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam SERVER) Subject: Ytse subscribers Message-ID: <199410191442.KAA26846@beryl.cs.brandeis.edu>
Just a quick note, you can get info on subscribers (addresses, etc) by mailing a request to ytsejam-request@arastar.com (or listserv@arastar.com)
NO SUBJECT,
text should read either:
statistics ytsejam
or
recipients ytsejam
The server might not accept the stats one, b/c it does takes processor time, but I think the other one should work at any time (I tried the stats one a few days ago, and got a message that it could not complete my request at the time)
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Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 15:31:50 +0100 (MET) From: Mats Rydstr\vm <d94-mry@nada.kth.se> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: AWAKE...CHART #5 Message-ID: <Pine.3.87.9410191550.A14883-0100000@mumrik.nada.kth.se>
Hi everyone!
It just hit me, why not ask you over there (the US) and for that matter you other guys in other parts of the world how Awake has charted in your respective countries, ok it's not that important but quite interesting. Got the idea just after I found out that Awake is in the 5th position in the Swedish album-chart. The other top-5 are like REM and some Swedish artists and compilations (that's like really popular stuff), but DT at #5!!! That's pretty damn good! (Awake entered last week at #16.)
On the subject of themes on the album: I know that we've discussed that bits of 'Silent Man' can be heard in Erotomania, but I don't know if anyone has noticed that right before the SM part in Erotomania it sounds almost like the part in 'Scarred' where it goes '...how come you don't understand me', it's at least 'the same' chord-progression and has quite the same feel to it. Go check it out!!!
I'm fixing some personal WWW-pages, they're quite boring actually, but I have got some sound samples. They're just .au 8 khz but that was my only choice. The songs are (1-2 min each): Learning To Live, La Villa Strangiato and Starless, (my favourite songs of all time). I've also got the entire track (oh this one's a killer) BURN by Deep Purple.
the address is: http://www.nada.kth.se/~d94-mry
look for sound samples or something like that! If anyone else has got some cool songs please tell me!
Take care!
/Mats
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Date: Wed, 19 Oct 94 08:25:16 PDT From: toscano@SDSC.EDU To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Voices: I need a new pair of underwear Message-ID: <9410191525.AA11180@milo.sdsc.edu>
Hey- Am I the only one who likes Voices? It is far and away my favorite song on the album, being at once progressive, interesting, moving, and powerful. It might even end up being my fave DT song.
Just my $.02.
rich
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Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 10:46:39 -0600 (MDT) From: William Kriski <wkriski@enci.ucalgary.ca> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Space Dye Vest Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9410191030.A19110-0100000@hiperf1>
Someone mentioned that their friend said the static was poor sampling. I don't agree with that, and on my headphones I noticed that the static plays on the right side and then the left side and alternates. But I don't know why they put it there along with that annoying high pitch. I've learned to ignore it.
I like the sample with the guy talking about loving a woman, etc, but the 180 degrees, dry heat, etc is a bit much during the beautiful piano playing, in my opinion.
Will
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Date: 19 Oct 94 12:56:49 ES From: Bill Polymenakos <Bill_Polymenakos%notes@sb.com> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: re: DT: _Live at the Metropolis_ Message-ID: <9410192000.AA0902@pho018.sb.com>
>likely wouldn't buy it anyway, I was curious if anyone could tell me if >there is a difference between these two (e.g., bonus track, something >neat enclosed in the package, etc.). My guess is no, seeing as how >there likely would have been a sticker or something on the Japanese one >to help justify that $8 difference in price. But if there is a >difference, I'd be interested in finding out...
If I remember correctly the Japan and Germany versions are identical except for one song. The German version has Surrounded while the Japanese version replaces Surrounded with Another Day. I think that's it.
Later, Bill
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Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 13:38:40 +0500 From: katwell@allegro.cs.tufts.edu (Kenneth E. Atwell) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: AWAKE hits the charts Message-ID: <9410191738.AA15431@c3.tufts.edu>
AWAKE entered Billboard's album chart at #32, below new releases from Smashing Pumpkins, Cranberries, and Danzig.
KEN ATWELL
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Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 13:36:56 EST From: "Debra D. Hanson 813-332-1969" <HANSOND@mail.firn.edu> To: "ytsejam@arastar.com" <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: RE: Promised Land Message-ID: <E1218ZVLLJJ0U3*/R=FIRNVX/R=A1/U=HANSOND/@MHS>
Mike P - I agree 100%. My first listen to Promised Land left me feeling pretty disappointed - AND made me realize that Dream Theater is well on the way to becoming the standard by which all other prgressive bands are measured (at least IMHO). Deb H hansond@mail.firn.edu
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Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 12:56:01 -0500 (CDT) From: polzin edward george <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: DT: _Live at the Metropolis_ Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.90.941019125146.11924A-100000@eehpx7.cen.uiuc.edu>
I have LatM and mine says Made in England. Are there any bonus tracks on the other ones? What are the tracks? The list on the England cd are as follows: 1. Metropolis 2. A Fortune in Lies 3. Bombay Vindaloo 4. Surrounded 5. Another Hand - The Killing Hand 6. Pull Me Under
I've also seen another import cd from DT. I don't remember the name but there was one song that I haven't heard of on it. i didn't get it because they were selling it for about $50.
Later. Slick
On Tue, 18 Oct 1994 jking@loca.eece.unm.edu wrote:
> > OK, so here's the deal. The two editions of _LatM_ were from Germany > and Japan. Looking over the packaging there didn't appear to be any > difference except that the German one was $14 and the Japanese one was > $22 (!). So you can probably guess which one I bought. Although I > likely wouldn't buy it anyway, I was curious if anyone could tell me if > there is a difference between these two (e.g., bonus track, something > neat enclosed in the package, etc.). My guess is no, seeing as how > there likely would have been a sticker or something on the Japanese one > to help justify that $8 difference in price. But if there is a > difference, I'd be interested in finding out... > > (Germany must have some cheap way of making CD's cheap; the version of > _WD&DU_ they had was make in Germany and was only $16 -- the one I > bought previously (made in France) was $22! Grr...) > > See ya, > > Jon >
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Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 12:29:50 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: HBB--October 22nd Message-ID: <199410191929.MAA22526@bud.indirect.com>
> Stinkin' MTV. Just heard that the bumped appearance will actually appear > this Saturday night (10/22). Oh well. > > On another note, thanks for the radio calls--keep up the heat...it's > working; 104.3 in NY is playing "Lie" with gusto.
An "out to lunch" block with Dream Theater just came on on KUPD 98 in Phoenix... four songs in a row. So far they have played Lie, Pull Me Under (live version! from the LATM promo CD), and Another Day. It's in the middle of AD right now. Oddly enough, it's been weeks since I requested an out-to-lunch with DT, so I guess they just let more requests build up... whoever else on Ytsejam has been calling KUPD.. good going!
Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com, marabout@genesis.mc.maricopa.edu
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Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 12:32:46 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: sample from SDV Message-ID: <199410191932.MAA22653@bud.indirect.com>
> Oh, Mike Bahr, have you been collecting all of the sample identities > for the FAQ?
I'm tryin'! I've edited the FAQ weekly as oflate, and I am still missing a TON of info in addition to not having time to edit misteaks. Don't trust the FAQ if it's more than a week out of date, says I, and I will have new versions of it here soon (or someone on the La Villa BBS can download it and bring it over)
Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com, marabout@genesis.mc.maricopa.edu
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Date: Wed, 19 Oct 1994 15:41:04 -0400 From: "Jason K. Schechner" <jks2x@fermi.clas.virginia.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: samples, etc Message-ID: <199410191941.PAA33346@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU>
I'm responding to a bunch of different posts here, so bear with me.
On Oct 13, 2:14, William Wright wrote: > > But you don't have all the quote (from the song, it could be chopped) > the whole thing is: > > "6:00 on a Christmas morning and for what?" > > "But it's for the honor of God <something>"
I think she says "But it's for the honor of God Aunt Kate."
> "I know all about the honor of God Mary Jane." > > > -- End of excerpt from William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
On Oct 14, 23:32, Pat Daugherty wrote: > Subject: wierd sounds on the beginning of SDV > Does anybody else's cd have wierd sounds at the beginning of SDV? > > Like at the 1:10-1:11, 1:15-1:16, 1:20-1:21 and some otheres there is > a sound that is a sound that drives you crazy like fingers on a chalkboard. > I hate that sound. > That's actually the sound of an scillator circuit inside a TV set, or computer monitor. I can hear it when almost any CRT is on, though some are a lot louder than others. I'm sitting in a military computer room right now and my ears are flipping out. I would guess it's there because it's actually a high quality sample, not a low quality one. Whatever recoreder was used to record that sample has better range than most recording equipment. I just wish they'd used a quieter TV! IT also could have been left there because the band wanted to see who can actually hear the thing. Either that or none of them or their staff can hear it so they have no idea it's there. Your guess is as good as mine. > > -- End of excerpt from Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
On Oct 16, 6:57, hartman larry wrote: > Subject: Please tell us if spoilers are coming! > I would like to 2nd the motion that people who have seen a DT show in > the next few days/weeks, please put something like > *** SPOILER **** > in your subject line. I'll being going to a show on the 27th in > Baltimore and I would like it more if I didn't know the set list ahead of > time. Also I would like to be suprised when I walk in and see Kevin up on > stage. I'm still hoping that this is all of cruel joke. > > Thanks!
I would like to echo Jason's sentiments. I'm going to be at that same show (any other Ytsejammers who are going to be there - e-mail me and we'll all get together, or tell me if something's already planned!) and I don't want to know about it ahead of time. Oh, and if any of you know how to get to Hammerjack's from, say 495, e-mail me. > > -- End of excerpt from hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
Welcome to all of our new subscribers, and lurkers who are posting. :-) BTW: If any of you are near Phoenix, Arizona, send me e-mail. I'm going to be there in about 2 weeks, I think. Also, to our German 'jammers: I'm going to be _there_ in abou a month or so, if all goes as planned, so if any of you are near SW Germany, send me e-mail. Lastly, if any of you are near Pensacola, FL - you know what to do. (I'm there now - business travel is a good thing :-)) Sorry for the non-DT content at the end here.
-Jason
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