YTSEJAM digest 569

From: ytsejam@arastar.com
Date: Thu Oct 27 1994 - 10:14:44 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) SDV - "Toughest challenge so far" sample indentified?
     by SEVERINE@ACC.FAU.EDU
      2) Re: Where can i find LITS
     by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
      3) space-dye shirt info
     by Brent Phillips <panther@clove.lcs.mit.edu>
      4) Re: Where can i find LITS
     by Douglas Merrell <merrell@cs.fsu.edu>
      5) Re: Where can i find LITS
     by 2112@rmii.com (Douglas Yoder)
      6) AWAKE in German album charts
     by Andreas Kasper <KASPER@pc-aak.chemie.uni-mainz.de>
      7) TOP TEN LIST!!
     by GENE SZUCS <SZUCSEUE@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu>
      8) My experience and picks available
     by EMRST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu
      9) concert pictures...
     by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
     10) Re: 2 CD Jewel Cases?
     by Phil Felicia <FELICI53@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU>
     11) When Dream And Web Unite!
     by mgjones@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu (Michael Jones)
     12) Re: Where can i find LITS
     by freel@Iowa.Physics.UIowa.EDU

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    Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 03:32:45 -0400 (EDT)
    From: SEVERINE@ACC.FAU.EDU
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: SDV - "Toughest challenge so far" sample indentified?
    Message-ID: <01HIR8SDHJEQ934W0H@acc.fau.edu>

    Hi,
        I think I've identified the voice in the SDV sample "He's gonna have to
    face it... his toughest challenge yet" sample. I'm pretty sure it is CBS
    sportscaster Gary Bender. He does football, basketball, golf, etc. for
    CBS, (and apparantly OJ coverage on the night of the big chase). It sounds
    like his voice and the way he speaks. Will have to hear him again on some
    sports reporting to be sure though. So it seems that Kevin must have been
    watching the CBS coverage of the chase (or flipped to it breifly). Anyone
    else agree it's Bender???
    -greg

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    Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 06:48:52 -0500 (CDT)
    From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: Where can i find LITS
    Message-ID: <199410271148.GAA15341@galaxy.galstar.com>

    > To live forever (Mr. Petrucci does his Joe Satrianni bit:)
    >

    what do you mean by this?

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    Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 12:28:34 -0400
    From: Brent Phillips <panther@clove.lcs.mit.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: space-dye shirt info
    Message-ID: <9410271628.AA01224@clove.lcs.mit.edu>

    In case anyone is really really psychotically interested in this
    space-dye shirt thing, the catalog is "The Best of Newport News",
    produced by Newport News. The numbers they provide are 1-800-688-2830
    for orders and 1-804-827-9000 for customer service. The space dyed
    tunic is on page 22, item RN6135, $16.99.

    Jen (who gave me the catalog) also said that she remembers seeing a
    space-dye vest at some point about a year ago, but she doesn't
    remember what catalog it was in, and (obviously) did not realize its
    significance at that time. :)

    Later,

    - Brent

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    Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 13:55:51 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Douglas Merrell <merrell@cs.fsu.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: Where can i find LITS
    Message-ID: <199410271755.RAA02462@cs.fsu.edu>

    clip...

    >
    > You also get the three videos of Pull me Under, Take the Time and Another
    > Day.
    >
    > (If I've missed anything, someone do the honours and correct me please:)
    >
    > So, there you have it. Possibly the music video for your money.
    >
    > See ya,
    >
    > Matt.
    >
    >

    Uhhhh....Something I just had to add is that the videos are the short form
    of the song on the album. This SUCKS! Why couldn't they just put the
    whole "long form" version of the video on the tape for those people who
    don't have time to watch eMpTyV. This is the first thing that I noticed
    when watching the 'videos', that they jump from one part of the song right
    over the AWESOME solo of Petrucci.

    So, I just wanted the message to not be misleading.

    C-Ya,
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    Date: Thu, 27 Oct 94 13:54 MST
    From: 2112@rmii.com (Douglas Yoder)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: Where can i find LITS
    Message-ID: <m0r0bqI-0001MhC@rockymtn.net>

    >Well, It's called Dream theater, images & words live in Tokyo, and it's one
    >of the best music videos I've seen. It's a 90 minute account of a live show
    >in Tokyo along with some interview stuff and general "with the band"
    >scenes. It's all pretty funny but Mike and Kevin are definately the stars
    >of the show. The tracks played are:

    > Pull me Under
    > Take the Time (Listen out for puppies on acid/the mirror!:)
    > Ytsejam (Was the drum solo REALLY neccesary?)
                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

                    Why yes. Yes it was. It was completely, utterly and in all
    other ways, neccesary!

                    Big, big };)

    > A fortune in Lies
    > Wait for sleep
    > Under a glass moon
    > Surrounded
    > To live forever (Mr. Petrucci does his Joe Satrianni bit:)

    >You also get the three videos of Pull me Under, Take the Time and Another
    >Day.

    >(If I've missed anything, someone do the honours and correct me please:)

    >So, there you have it. Possibly the music video for your money.

    >See ya,

    >Matt.

    Grins aside, it is definately worth getting ahold of. I had great fun
    watching it. Especially after I found out that the girl in the beginning of
    the video who is getting her boobs signed by the band is a friend of a
    friend... wild, huh? Maybe I should go visit this friend? hehe... just
    humor...

    The only thing that isn't great about this video is the quality of the live
    sound. I wonder if they are going to have some 'real' sound engineers for
    this tour? Post 'em if you know!

    Peace,
    2112
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            /\ | : 2112
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            .. |
           .oo. |
          .oOOo. | * Remeber that we are all spiritual beings *
          .oOOo. | * having a human experience... *
           .oo. |
            .. | When we stand on the edge of all that we
                       | have known, one of two things will happen:
     Encourage Liberal | A bridge will appear at our feet or we
     Use of Intellect | will be taught how to fly.
     and Free Will!! |
    ___________________|

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    Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 19:19:13 GMT+100
    From: Andreas Kasper <KASPER@pc-aak.chemie.uni-mainz.de>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: AWAKE in German album charts
    Message-ID: <MAILQUEUE-101.941027191913.480@pc-aak.chemie.uni-mainz.de>

    Hi all!

    Last week, AWAKE entered the album charts as #32.
    This week, it went up to #15.

    Does anybody out there know when the "Lie" single (with "To Live
    Forever") will be released in Europe ?

    Thanks!

    - Andreas -

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    * Andreas Kasper <KASPER@PC-AAK.CHEMIE.UNI-MAINZ.DE> from Germany *
    **********************************************************************
    * "Find all you need in your mind Dream Theater *
    * if you take the time." Images & Words *
    * Take the Time *
    **********************************************************************

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    Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 16:49:52 -0400 (EDT)
    From: GENE SZUCS <SZUCSEUE@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: TOP TEN LIST!!
    Message-ID: <01HIS0R2KBYQ0016FH@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu>

    >
    > >Top ten reasons why AWAKE hasn't left my cd player in three weeks.
    > >
    > >10. The darn thing's taste sensor just wont let me take it out (like I'd
    > >want it to.
    > >9. After trying to taunt it with PROMISED LAND, i think AWAKE is good for
    > >another three years.
    > >8.My dog just wont let me get near the darn thing (Down Petrucci, Down
    > >boy, gooood doggy)
    > >7.VOICES aren't letting me change discs
    > >6.Still trying to figure out LIE on regular open E tuning on 6 string guitar
    > >5.NKOTB just don't do it for me anymore
    > >4.Just got dumped by an SDV
    > >3.the MIRROR never lies, and when I look in it, I just feel really AWAKE
    > >2.Like, these guys must get a lot of chicks (Heh-Heh, Heh)
    > >1.I'm going for Guinness with my monkeys!!
    > >
    >
    >
     ________________________________________________________________________-_____
     | Eugene E. Szucs \ " All The World Is Indeed A Stage, And WE Are
     |University of Dayton| Merely Players, Performers And Portrayers,
     |@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu| Each Anothers Audience Outside The Gilded Cage"
    --______---------------------------------------------------------------------
    "All That Glitters Is Not Always Gold" | "uuuhhhhh The devil made me do it"
    --------------------------------------- -some weirdo

            The cool night spawned two creatures leaping across rooftops with
    calculated feline-like grace, basking in the autumn moonlight turning
    their cares over to the four winds for a moment. Gerard and Dorian danced
    their way across midtown before ending up in the most horrific immoral
    tapestry painted across modern times in all of the Western Hemisphere:
    Time's Square,. Once appropriately meshed in with the trash of modern day
    society, they proceeded to try and find some prey to agitate. A group of
    four road mongrels perched themselves on the doorsteps of one of the many
    houses of the unholy, waiting for some female with a light wallet....as well
    as a light price. The two creatures of the night could smell these vagrants
    thirty yards off, sweaty bodies emmanating a putrid smell of vodka and cheap
    whiskey probably left from the time of prohibitiopn. Gerard and Dorian
    eyed these peculiar individuals with enough distaste for one of them to start
    a squable, which one of them stupidly indulged into. The four forced themselves
    of of the steps of the house of ill repute and proceeded to follow the two
    at close range whistling and cajoling, and paying Dorian most of the attention.
    Seeying this, Gerard initiated another forceful step toward confrontation by
    turning his gaze toward the four in an annoyed stare. "Gotta problem, rich-
    boy?" one of them crowed at them. Gerard fully turned around to face them
    before inquiring "Go get some cheap meat, freaks" a little bluntly. The four
    seemed a little puzzled at this little cheap shot at their lifestyle, but
    one soon recovered and invited Gerard with a little phrase which was music
    to his ears "....BITE ME!!"

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    Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 16:55:43 -0400 (EDT)
    From: EMRST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: My experience and picks available
    Message-ID: <01HIRY4JUFEWB64CZY@vms.cis.pitt.edu>

    This might be kind of a long post, so be prepared.

    Here's the story on the package I unexpectedly received from East/West records.

    First off, I was trying to get a promo copy of Awake to play on my radio show
    (WPTS, University of Pittsburgh), so I called up East/West records. I got the
    number from NY information (wasn't that hard). I finally got a hold of a
    secretary there, she immediately gave me their college rep guy. His name is
    Pete Rosenblum (sorry Pete for mispelling your name a million and a half
    times), and no, he's not on this list (I don't think). Well, I couldn't get a
    hold of Pete several times, so I kept leaving messages on his voice mail (3
    times I think in two weeks). Finally one day I got a hold of him, and he gave
    me about 45 seconds of his time. He was cool, but very busy.<-- this is
    important for later. He basically told me to send him a letter on WPTS
    letterhead before he could do anything for me (kind of what I expected). Since
    I don't spend that much time at the station (to pick up letterhead), it seemed
    like more trouble than its worth. I figured Awake would be out before I'd ever
    get that done, so I blew it off and waited for Oct. 4.

    2nd step: Remember that promo Cman did to get us to call radio stations to
    push Lie? He said he would send Lie to anyone who called..... Well one Friday
    night, I went to see a friend's band and came home pretty loaded. I logged in
    and saw this message from Cman, and like a dummy, I responded immediately. I
    told him that I already had the LIE single, but could use future singles since
    I had been playing LIE for weeks, and that I was playing about half of Awake
    during each of my shows. The message I wrote was alot of babbling, and at
    times I got very forward and irritating. First of all I said that I got a hold
    of Pete and he basically gave me the blowoff, which is kind of true in the
    sence that he only gave me about 45 sec. and nothing came about from it. Next,
    I said stuff like "where the hell are our backstage passes", and "tell E/W that
    they better start recognizing us", and the kicker "kill the person responsible
    for not putting Scarred on the tape." Just stuff to make me (and us) seem
    unprofessional. I did say some cool stuff like "Tell them we think the survey
    is cool" and I praised Cman for all he's done for us. Everything I said I said
    as if I was talking to one of you (which I consider Cman), instead of talking
    to someone who works for E/W, which he does.

    Then I get the package from E/W, which I wasn't expecting and mail you all
    about it (before i actually had it, my mom told me what was in it).
    Contained in it is an 8x10 photo of DT (without Kev), CD of Awake, 9 picks
    (like the one I got at the listening party- which I mailed you all about), and
    a copy of most of the e-mail message that I had written to Cman. At the
    bottom of the letter was a handwritten part. It said this:

    1. I return all phone calls, so if you called me, I called you back. But I
    don't remember.

    2. We can't take care of every DJ at every college radio station, if we did,
    we'd be broke. Tickets are $25 per ticket, per show. But I'm glad to help in
    any way possible, so enjoy the CD.

                                    Pete

    My comments on his comments.
    First of all, I must have been very unclear in my letter (understandable since
    I was drunk) because his interpretations weren't right.
    First from "I called Pete, but he kind of gave me the blowoff". I didn't mean
    it like he took it, I meant, that he was short with me because he sounded busy
    as hell, and that nothing came about from the conversation. I can see where
    his interpretation came from though, since I did sound like a dick.

    Secondly, although I did say something about going to DT show for free, I never
    said anything about getting free tickets from him or E/W. I mentioned being
    poor and going for free. I also mentioned Backstage passes to Cman on many an
    occassion. But never regular tickets. I'm going for free because of the radio
    show, and my connections with the promoter. I feel I deserve it for the
    promotion I did for DT and the show here. I don't feel I deserve to meet the
    band any more than any of you do, but I feel I deserve to more than anyone else
    in Pittsburgh. I don't, BTW, have backstage passes at this time, and there's
    only 2 days left. I thought I was on Cman's list, but obviously not. Anyway,
    I'm not sure why he got the wrong impression here.

    It was really cool that he responded and maintained his professionalism, when I
    know he wanted to just say, "Fuck off you annoying dick." I also wanted to
    apologize to all of you for acting so unprofessional on our behalf. I've
    learned "Don't drink and Net." I'm going to send Pete a letter on WPTS
    letterhead thanking him, and apologizing.

    Some miscellaneous things I forgot:
    Pete's business card was also included in the package.
    If you haven't figured it out yet, it was Cman who gave my letter to Pete,
    although this hasn't been confirmed by him, its the only possibility I can come
    up with.
    The free CD takes my Awake count to 4. One bought here, one from Japan, one
    from Japan through CD Europe (still on the way, too late to cancel), and the
    free one.
    I'm still pissed about Scarred not being on the tape. I think I could have
    presented it better, but the principle remains. It was very uncool, and if the
    band had been anyone but DT, I would have boycotted the whole thing. I don't
    apologize for my view, and I will back it to the death. It's stuff like this
    that make people hate the music industry so bad.

    Cman is still the greatest.

    Now the important stuff:

    I wanted to be able to get enough picks to send to all of you, but I got 9.
    One is spoken for, that leaves 8. I've already gotten a handful of offers from
    people, who want to trade something for one. I don't want to rip anyone off,
    and since the most popular offer is one tape's worth of stuff, I've decided to
    go with that. One pick for one tape. This will let me catch up on some stuff,
    too. Email me about trading. I will also include a photocopy of the 8x10
    along with the pick. I have one postcard from the listening party left. It's
    a postcard of the album cover. It's pretty cool, if anyone's interested.

    I believe I'm done. It's not as long as I thought It'd be (just kidding).
    I just got DoE and LitS and Japanese Awake w/Eve so I'm on a DT high right now.
    Eve has acoustic guitar in it that you can only really pick up in headphones.
    It makes it much fuller. It's a beautiful song. The show is Saturday. I want
    to ask them who Eve is, or do we already know that?

    Later
    KAI

    ps. (Mike Burstin, please forward this whole message back to me. I forgot to
         CC myself, but I don't want everyone doing it. Thanks)
     

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    Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 17:02:35 -0500 (EDT)
    From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam SERVER)
    Subject: concert pictures...
    Message-ID: <199410272102.RAA11847@rasp.cs.brandeis.edu>

    Well, I got my pictures developed today from the shows... and
    unfortunaly, not too much... There were NO pictures that were
    developable from Boston :( and only 7 of the 14 even had anything
    from Providence...

    There are a few decent ones, including:
    spotlights on Mike P, with John M in front
    decent shot of entire band except Petrucci in yellowish light
    spotlights on James (probably best of all)
    James w/ red lights behind
    2 really bad ones, one of a security guard and 1/2 of James, and I
    can't even make out the other one...

    I, unfortunatly, don't have access to a color scanner, and probably
    none are good enough to even make copies of for other people...
    Anyway, just wanted to let everyone know how they turned out...

    -- 
    +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
    |              Let's stare the problem right in the eye                |
    |                It's plagued me from coast to coast                   |
    |                Racing the clock to please everyone                   |
    |               All but the one who matters the most                   |
    |      Dream Theater             The Mirror                Awake       |
    |          Get AWAKEned.  Available in stores everywhere!!!            |
    +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
    |      Michael Burstin                       Brandeis University       |
    +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
    For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
    

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    Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 18:21:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Phil Felicia <FELICI53@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: 2 CD Jewel Cases? Message-ID: <01HIS405V5AA9BX6LA@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU>

    > >This doesn't really relate to DT directly, but does anyone know where >I can buy some of those 2-CD jewel cases that are the size of a 1-CD >jewel case (like the one The Dance of Eternity comes in)? >It would be great for Lost in the Sky, and the Japanese edition >of Awake with the Eve single. I can't find them anywhere around here. >If you know of a place around Maryland that carries them, or a mail order >company that sells them, please let me know. Thanks. > >--Stephan >--sdobay@wam.umd.edu > Any record store should be able to order them for you. Also check catalog specializing in storage? kinds of things. Most of the stores that I go to have them in stock. They are great cases though, alot more convenient.

    Phil,

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    Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 23:39:38 -0400 (EDT) From: mgjones@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu (Michael Jones) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: When Dream And Web Unite! Message-ID: <9410280339.AA24077@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu>

    Hello all,

    I have set up a Dream Theater Web Site (called "When Dream And Web Unite"). The URL is: http://nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu/~mgjones/music/dt/dt.html Check it out, give me comments, suggestions, and let me know if anything is incorrect.

    The primary reason I started this project was because I got tired of trying to get to the DT Archive on netcom (too many anonymous users....too many anonymous users... :), so I wanted to make the material there more available to the public during the USA daytime hours...well, after grabbing that stuff, I converted most of it to HTML so it's nice on the eyes, and pretty easy to find all the info you need.

    Anyways, I'd really appreciate anyone's feedback, whether good or bad :). Also, if you can think of things I should add, email me.

    ______________________________________________________________________ Michael G. Jones <Finger Me for PGP Key> Miami University, Oxford, OH MGJones@NeXTSrv.CAS.MUOhio.Edu http://nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu/~mgjones ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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    Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 18:53:48 C From: freel@Iowa.Physics.UIowa.EDU To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Where can i find LITS Message-ID: <00986954.8A765580.18833@Iowa.Physics.UIowa.EDU>

    >> >> You also get the three videos of Pull me Under, Take the Time and Another >> Day. >> >> (If I've missed anything, someone do the honours and correct me please:) >> >> So, there you have it. Possibly the music video for your money. >> >> See ya, >> >> Matt. >> >> > >Uhhhh....Something I just had to add is that the videos are the short form >of the song on the album. This SUCKS! Why couldn't they just put the >whole "long form" version of the video on the tape for those people who >don't have time to watch eMpTyV. This is the first thing that I noticed >when watching the 'videos', that they jump from one part of the song right >over the AWESOME solo of Petrucci.

    Uh, Altantic only gave them enough money for 1 video for each song; there are NO unedited versions of these videos. It may suck that the videos were made for the radio release edition of each song, but the band is NOT jipping you...

    >So, I just wanted the message to not be misleading.

    Ditto. :^)

    >C-Ya, >********************************************************************** >********************************************************************** >** FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY _____________ ** >** DOUG MERRELL | Rock || ** >** | 'N' || ** >** COMPUTER SCIENCE | Roll || ** >** EMAIL: merrell@cs.fsu.edu /------------// ** >** or merrelld@freenet.fsu.edu /____________/// ** >********************************************************************** >********************************************************************** >"We are the priests, of the temples of syrinx, >Our great computers fill the hallowed halls." -- N. Peart >"Love is an act of blood and I'm bleeding > a pool in the shape of a heart." -- K. Moore >"She can turn a drop of water, into an ocean." -- J. Myung

    Chrisf

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