YTSEJAM digest 570

From: ytsejam@arastar.com
Date: Fri Oct 28 1994 - 05:29:21 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 570

    Today's Topics:

      1) BAY AREA DREAM THEATER TICKETS!!!
     by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
      2) DT B-More -- Spoilers
     by Stephan Dobay <sdobay@wam.umd.edu>
      3) Baltimore Show
     by "backof michael ( bs ifsm)" <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
      4) Re: When Dream And Web Unite!
     by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
      5) Re: DT B-More -- Spoilers
     by Phil Felicia <FELICI53@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU>
      6) I met DT!!!!!
     by hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
      7) Taking Pictures On A Show
     by soeryant@egr.msu.edu
      8) DT on Howard Stern!!!
     by Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
      9) Re: DT B-More -- Spoilers
     by smm@uunet.uu.net (Steve Mansfield)
     10) Re: DT B-More -- Spoilers
     by Matthew M Leger <mml@kepler.unh.edu>
     11) Gary Bender
     by MattMiz@aol.com
     12) Hammerjacks/Baltimore show (SPOILERS)
     by smm@uunet.uu.net (Steve Mansfield)
     13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 569
     by "Mark D. Scudder" <6705324@sunybroome.edu>
     14) Promo Trade
     by James=Utz%Mech%PCPD=Hou@bangate.compaq.com
     15) Re: When Dream And Web Unite!
     by Douglas Merrell <merrell@cs.fsu.edu>
     16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 569
     by Chad Cook <CLCOOK@HCACAD.HOLYCROSS.EDU>
     17) Hammerjacks last night!!!!!
     by Jody Levine <thebigo@brahms.udel.edu>
     18) Re: I met DT!!!!!
     by "Jason K. Schechner" <jks2x@fermi.clas.virginia.edu>
     19) "Scarred" Missing on Tape
     by James=Utz%Mech%PCPD=Hou@bangate.compaq.com
     20) Re: DT B-More -- Spoilers
     by Stephan Dobay <sdobay@wam.umd.edu>
     21) Oops And More!!
     by Nate Bradley <nbradley@d.umn.edu>
     22) Concert Dates?
     by Don Olive <dolive@unix.campbellsvil.edu>

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    Date: Thu, 27 Oct 94 20:46:43 PDT
    From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: BAY AREA DREAM THEATER TICKETS!!!
    Message-ID: <9410280346.AA25449@teng6.fmt>

    ON SALE THIS SUNDAY AT ALL BASS OUTLETS!!!

    (need I say more?)

    And that probably means the Sacramento show will be
    too, if a venue has been found that is...

    As a reminder, the shows are at the Warfield, SFO TH
    and F, Dec. 1 & 2, consecutively. And noooo, they
    couldn't play *any* DT after the announcement, instead,
    they play fucking Jane's Addiction (Been Caught Stealin').
    STP'll probably be next !>/>

    Omigod! I was right! I must be a physic or something.
    Fuck KSJO, I wished I still lived in Sac. Long live
    93 Rock!

    (there goes some more vacation time- next'll be QR)

    Zach - who likes PL, BTW, a lot!

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    Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 00:33:03 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Stephan Dobay <sdobay@wam.umd.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: DT B-More -- Spoilers
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9410280051.A13221-0100000@rac4.wam.umd.edu>

    Just got back from the DT Baltimore show (my first) and they really
    blew the roof off the dump. I'm sure someone will post the entire
    set list in excruciating detail, but the highlites for me were:

    -the improved? jam at the end of Take the Time

    -The incredibly heavy rendition of Caught in a Web

    -Last and definately not least--Metropolis as the encore!

    And now the obligatory questions:

    -what was the song/guitar riff in the middle of the drum solo?

    -anyone tape the show? Please get in touch...

    Later.

    --Stephan
    --sdobay@wam.umd.edu

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    Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 01:20:03 -0400
    From: "backof michael ( bs ifsm)" <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Baltimore Show
    Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.90.941028010419.16872A@umbc8.umbc.edu>

            Well, I just got back from the show at HammerJacks here in
    Baltimore. Once again the band has outdone themselves. This is the
    second time I have seen them live and they continue to impress. I was
    down on the floor on Myung's side near the overhang on the floor. Great
    view of the band, better then when I saw them at Pier Six, though
    HammerJack had about 200 people more than fire limit I would guess.
    (Money, Money, etc...)

    Well, as you all know, I Mother Earth is still opening for them. I
    really didn't know what to think, some of their instrumental stuff was
    really great though I won't know if the singer is any good til I hear the
    album, he had to yell to be heard over the guitars.

    Dream Theater came on about 9:00 and here is the set list...

    Pull Me Under
    6:00
    Take the Time / Classical Jam w Piano Solo / Take the Time
    Caught in a Web/ Drum Solo/ Caught in a Web
    The Ones Who Help To Set the Sun
    Lifting Shadows Off a Dream
    Mirror/Lie
    Another Day
    A Mind Beside Itself

    Encore:
    Metropolis

    This order is close, I may have Another Day and Lifting Shadows misplaced.
    But these are the songs.

    Other Notes:

    The mix was pretty good, I could hear everyone pretty well, though it was
    of course very loud.

    Petrucci still is using the Faces guitar.

    Portnoy is a madman, he must have the stamina of a decathalon runner.

    James' voice is still in good shape, though it is early in the tour, I
    hope he is still this strong in April when they hit the East coast again.

    Myung does some incredible bass work. I was comparing his ability to some
    of the other bass players I have seen and he is certainly a great, up
    there with Levin, Squire, and others.

    Anybody else see the girl in the low cut red leather dress on Myungs side
    near the back, if you didn't you missed another great concert highlight.

                                                    Later,

                                                    Mike

                                                    mbacko1@umbc.edu

    P.S. If anyone got a copy of this show I mail you a limb to get ahold of
    a copy.

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    Date: Thu, 27 Oct 94 22:28:45 PDT
    From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: When Dream And Web Unite!
    Message-ID: <9410280528.AA27529@teng6.fmt>

    Checked it out. Very cool. Thanks for taking the time!

    Zach

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    Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 05:42:09 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Phil Felicia <FELICI53@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: DT B-More -- Spoilers
    Message-ID: <01HISRR65E8I9BY5PO@SNYBUFVA.CS.SNYBUF.EDU>

    >
    >And now the obligatory questions:
    >
    >-what was the song/guitar riff in the middle of the drum solo?

    [Nothing like answering a question with a question, but...I'm answerless]
    Did anyone catch what was being sung/spoken at the end of the drum solo?

    >Later.
    >
    >--Stephan
    >--sdobay@wam.umd.edu
    >
    >
    One more thing...Mike P. sorta looked like 'Animal' from the 'Muppets' during
    his solo. It was really cool. ANNEEEEMAAAAAAL :)

    Phil,

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    Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 08:48:07 -0400 (EDT)
    From: hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: I met DT!!!!!
    Message-ID: <199410281248.IAA29546@umbc9.umbc.edu>

    YES!!!!!!!!

    I went to the Hammerjacks show in Baltimore last night. I'm in a hurry now
    so I'll just tell you the good stuff.

    We waited out side after the show and I got ALL of their autographs!
    John P. twice! They are all great! Derrik (sp?) was great too, he was
    outside longer than anyone, James was out there the shortest time!
    I got my picture taken next to Mike, next to John M., and next to John P.
    I can't wait to get them developed. Mike saw my Ytsejam shirt and said he
    wanted one, I told him that some were supposed to be mailed to them.
    Where they??

    I heard from Derrik that they are gonna start working on Scarred next so that
    they can play it on the tour.

    I asked John P if there was any chance of hearing ACoS on this tour and
    he said, "Uh, No". Then I asked if they would make a single and again the
    answer was "Uh, No". Damn....

    We started talking to Mike about his Beavis impression and then he pulled his
    shirt up and he had a B+B shirt on!! He rules, HE RULES!!!

    Welp I'll tell ya more later.

    See ya!

    **************************************************************************
    * Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu *
    * *
    * You're fighting the weight of the world, *
    * and no one can save you this time. *
    * Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. *
    * *
    * "Take the Time" - Dream Theater *
    **************************************************************************

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    Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 08:38:51 -0400 (EDT)
    From: soeryant@egr.msu.edu
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Taking Pictures On A Show
    Message-ID: <9410281238.AA06497@frith>

    There was a Ytsejammer who could take pictures of the guys on the show in
    Boston and Providence. I wonder if I can do that on the concert I am gonna
    go to in Detroit, Nov. 6. Anybody knows?

    Thanks
    Christina

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    Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 09:43:52 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: DT on Howard Stern!!!
    Message-ID: <m0r0rdM-0002Y4C@donews.cts.com>

            No, they're not going to be guests or anything - at least
            not yet, but the coolest thing happened this morning:

                    I'm driving to school and listening to the Howard
            Stern show (for those overseas, he is a radio talk show
            guy who broadcasts all over the country - very popular, at
            least in New York, Cleveland, and Los Angeles).
                    Anyway, after commercials, the show resumes with a
            brief 1-minute intro. that says "We're back with the Howard
            Stern Show" with various music in the background, things
            like Porno for Pyros, Nine Inch Nails, and many others...

                    Well, the kicker today was that the commercials
            ended and the intro. began - WITH PUP (THE BEGINNING OF
            THE MIRROR) IN THE BACKGROUND!!!!!! The song started, and
            then you hear Howard go "Yeah!" and he started to play drums
            on his control board with his hands - he really seemed very
            into it.....
            
                    This was the first time it was played as the back-
            ground and then Howard said, "Who are these guys - they kick"
            So then one of his partners (Fred) says "Dream Theater"....
            Howard then replies, "What?! Green Theater?" (i thought it
            was funny)...Anyway, Howard says, "Wow, these guys sound
            angry...." (another thing i thought was funny)....
                    His other partner (Robin) then goes "Yeah, these guys
            sound pretty good." So Howard then replies, " Wanna hear some
            more of it" - and then he started playing the rest of the
            Mirror - about 2 minutes of it....when the keyboards came in
            though, it went downhill from there.....they all started hacking
            on the song (from the keyboard coming in) and in particular
            the keyboardist...They basically said that it didn't fit into
            the song and stuff like that....the kicker was when Fred said
            "tell him to go back to Spandau Ballet" - which was kinda
            uncalled for, but funny anyway.....then everything kinda
            snowballed from there, to the point where they started saying
            they suck and stuff like that, but then again they heard about
            2 minutes of the song.....

                    Then Howard whips out the "Awake" CD and starts playing
            little clips of the beginnings of 6:00, CiaW, and IF....then
            he says "What - are these guys all instrumental - no vocals?"
            Of course he didn't give any of the songs a chance really, but
            I don't know - I'll probably call up the station and talk to
            one of their interns (Stuttering John, who has his own album
            out) and try and see if they can get more of DT in their intros
            at the least, maybe even guests when they come around again
            later on (I heard someone in DT was a fan of theirs)....

                    Well anyway, they spent about 5 minutes or so on Dream
            Theater, which is unheard of for hearing about a 10 second clip
            of their music....I've heard Howard ask who certain bands were
            from hearing the clips, but he never spent that much time on
            it, let alone break out the CD.....

                    Even though he started trashing them, I think that it
            was VERY cool that DT has debuted in yet another place besides
            the metal stations and stuff like that......

                                            
                                    Gotta go prepare for tonight's show
                                    at the Manhattan Ctr.,

                                            Later,

                                                    Al

            <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>

            BALKIEWI@NJMSA.UMDNJ.EDU "As the rain is pouring down
            ABALKIEW@VAXC.STEVENS-TECH.EDU Tears of sorrow wash his mind
            ABALKIEW@VAXA.STEVENS-TECH.EDU Drifting with the current
            ABALKIEW @ SITVXA This stream of life flows on."
            
            <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>
                    

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    Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 10:02:49 -0400 (EDT)
    From: smm@uunet.uu.net (Steve Mansfield)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: DT B-More -- Spoilers
    Message-ID: <QQxnoq01676.199410281402@rodan.UU.NET>

    > Just got back from the DT Baltimore show (my first) and they really
    > blew the roof off the dump. I'm sure someone will post the entire
    > set list in excruciating detail, but the highlites for me were:
    >
    > -the improved? jam at the end of Take the Time
    >
    > -The incredibly heavy rendition of Caught in a Web
    >
    > -Last and definately not least--Metropolis as the encore!
    >
    > And now the obligatory questions:
    >
    > -what was the song/guitar riff in the middle of the drum solo?
    >
    > -anyone tape the show? Please get in touch...

    Possibly a Pantera sample? I know Mike's a big Pantera fan, and he used
    one of their samples in his solo on the last tour.

    Steve Mansfield |See my diary on the newstand seems we've lost the truth
    smm@uunet.uu.net |Quicksand it's a shame no one is praying, cause these
                     |Voices in my head keep saying love, just don't stare
                     |Dream Theater - Voices - Awake

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    Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 10:12:14 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Matthew M Leger <mml@kepler.unh.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Re: DT B-More -- Spoilers
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9410281049.A8258-0100000@kepler.unh.edu>

    On Thu, 27 Oct 1994, Stephan Dobay wrote:

    >
    > Just got back from the DT Baltimore show (my first) and they really
    > blew the roof off the dump.
    >
    > And now the obligatory questions:
    >
    > -what was the song/guitar riff in the middle of the drum solo?
    >
    > Later.
    >
    > --Stephan
    > --sdobay@wam.umd.edu
    >

     When I saw the show at Berklee, they didn't play the samples during the
    drum solo, but in Buffalo they did. The first guitar riff is a Slayer
    tune, can't remember the exact name. They also played the begining of
    "only" by Anthrax. It was pretty cool and effective.

    Later
    Matt

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    Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 10:47:16 -0400
    From: MattMiz@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Gary Bender
    Message-ID: <9410281047154636087@aol.com>

    SEVERINE@ACC.FAU.EDU writes:

    >> I think I've identified the voice in the SDV sample "He's gonna have to
    face it... his toughest challenge yet" sample. I'm pretty sure it is CBS
    sportscaster Gary Bender.<<

    I think you're on to something. I do remember that quote quite vividly from
    the porno flick...I mean live chase coverage, but I couldn't recall the name.
     I do remember it being some sort of sports figure though, possibly a former
    teammate/leaguemate of OJ's.

    Hmmmmm.

    Matt

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    Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 10:58:17 -0400 (EDT)
    From: smm@uunet.uu.net (Steve Mansfield)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Hammerjacks/Baltimore show (SPOILERS)
    Message-ID: <QQxnot07094.199410281458@rodan.UU.NET>

    Well, someone has already postde the set list, so I wont bother doing so
    again. Needless to say, the show was amazing, as always. I got an o.k.
    spot upstairs next to spot #1, and later moved to sit on the spot
    platform itself.

    The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun was incredible. Although, I noticed
    that Der[rick|ek] was not playing during that one. They also had a bit
    of a technical problem just before they started Lifting Shadows off A
    Dream, but it was only momentary, and everything else went just fine. No
    mis-hits of the sample key or anything. ;-)

    The mix was great until I moved to next to the spot, thus placing me right
    in front of the uppermost speakers on the right, so now I've got concert-ear
    in my right ear.

    One thing to note, is that a lot of people have been quoting
    Der[rick|ek]'s last name as Sheridan. It is indeed Sheridian. This was
    how James introduced him and was verified after the show.

    Speaking of after the show, I was surprised with how long James was out
    signing stuff for people. It was by far the largest crowd of autograph
    hunters I had ever seen for them, which made it somewhat disappointing
    for those of us who just wanted to say hi to people we hadn't seen in a
    while. The perils of growing popularity I guess. John P. was out for
    a tad longer than James, and a friend who went with us gave him (as she
    does at every show), and few dozen choloate chip cookies, which of course
    doesn't help his gut any, but I didn't see any sign of a gut on him at
    all last night, so eitehr others are smokin' some good stuff and not
    sharing, or he's rid himself of it. I did get Der[rick|rek]'s autograph,
    since I had not seen him before and didn't have it yet. John Myung was
    escorted through the crowd and didn't sign anything at all. A few rude
    folks started shouting "What about our autographs? We've been waiting
    for long enough!" Get a grip people...

    Anyway, Der[rick|rek] was very cool. He is very interested in making
    this a permanent arrangement, and when I commented on how, while I was
    disappointed by Kevin's departure, from what I heard last night, he has
    filled in the void more than adequately, he said "Cool, tell the other
    guys that!" Which I did (well, except John M. of course...).

    Mike made everyone wait, did come out once the crowd was down to about 40
    people, signed some stuff, and we chatter with his wife while he did so.
    She and Rena have both recently joined another band (3 weeks old). No
    name yet, though she did promise to get info on them trickled to the net
    once names, tours, etc. get worked out. She actually remembered at least
    hearing about us, from all the shows we've been to, including the
    infamous Rochester Blizzard Show '93.

    Mike finally finished up, and made to run away, spotted us and made his
    police escort stop and wait while he chatted. Ender had already given
    him a ticket from the show via Vinny (their sound engineer), and made
    Ender promise to stop spending the extra cash, since their new tour
    manager is now making sure to get tickets from every show for him. He
    was bummed that we weren't going show-hopping this year like we did last
    tour, but schedules, and show locations jsut aren't allowing it this
    year. Maybe when they come back around the East coast next April or May.

    So, anyway, any of you folks at the show tonight, if you see Mike or John
    P., tell them the guys from DC said "hey!" and that if they play a show
    around Christmas on the East coast, they can count on us being there.

    Steve Mansfield |See my diary on the newstand seems we've lost the truth
    smm@uunet.uu.net |Quicksand it's a shame no one is praying, cause these
                     |Voices in my head keep saying love, just don't stare
                     |Dream Theater - Voices - Awake

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    Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 11:12:19 -0500 (EST)
    From: "Mark D. Scudder" <6705324@sunybroome.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 569
    Message-ID: <01HIT38ZORC28ZENOZ@sunybroome.edu>

            Somebody asked why didn't they put the "long version" of the songs
    on the music videos on LiT. Well, I would seem to think that they don't
    *have* such a thing! Those videos were shot for MTV, so what you see is
    what you get. In other words, why would they spend the extra production
    costs to make little snippets that they'd otherwise just edit out when MTV
    got a hold of it?

    Mark

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    Date: Fri, 28 Oct 94 11:56:45 CDT
    From: James=Utz%Mech%PCPD=Hou@bangate.compaq.com
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Promo Trade
    Message-ID: <m0r0v8t-000uHYC@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com>

            I would like to get a couple of the Awake stickers. I have Awake
    postcards and an Awake pick to trade. Please contact me if you have extra
    stickers to trade.

    Thanks,
    James
    jutz@bangate.compaq.com

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    Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 14:20:11 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Douglas Merrell <merrell@cs.fsu.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: When Dream And Web Unite!
    Message-ID: <199410281820.SAA16026@cs.fsu.edu>

    >
    > Hello all,
    >
    > I have set up a Dream Theater Web Site (called "When Dream And Web
    > Unite"). The URL is:
    > http://nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu/~mgjones/music/dt/dt.html
    > Check it out, give me comments, suggestions, and let me know if
    > anything is incorrect.
    >
    snip...

    Yeah! that was really cool of you to do. I will check this Web Site for the
    lates tour info, if I don't get it from Ytsejam first. I have a question
    about your ToDo list at the end of that Web page. I don't think that you
    need to put the album covers there, YOURSELF. Just put a link to the
    american.recordings page that is also on the WWW. I think that what you're
    trying to do is overkill.

    I would love it though if you could just keep those fans in the southeast
    informed about when the tour is coming around here. A few other friends and
    I (WE ARE REAL DREAM THEATER HEADS :)) can't wait for them to come to either
    Georgia or Florida. Since we are now in North Florida (Tally), I would go to
    Georgia to see them in the early leg. Well, thanks for the information.

    COOL WEB, MAN!

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    Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 12:08:40 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Chad Cook <CLCOOK@HCACAD.HOLYCROSS.EDU>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 569
    Message-ID: <01HIT54C4V7M9VVYEO@HCACAD.HOLYCROSS.EDU>

    Hi all, I'm new around here... I saw Dream Theater at Berklee in Boston last
    week, it was incredible! I also got to meet them! (Talk about psyched)
    They're really nice.. very cool guys. They were pretty much doing everything
    without the new keyboard guy (Derek?). He came out to the meet 'n greet before
    the rest of the band, and the rest of the band came out a little while
    afterwards. They signed autographs and then got the pictures with us..
    definitely VERY cool! Let me know if anyone else out there has been able to
    meet them!

    Chad
    College of the Holy Cross, Worcester, MA
    clcook@hcacad.holycross.edu

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    Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 12:24:18 -0400
    From: Jody Levine <thebigo@brahms.udel.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Hammerjacks last night!!!!!
    Message-ID: <199410281624.MAA14707@brahms.udel.edu>

    I don't know what to say. last night was unreal. yes, i am deaf now, but
    i have to say that it was worth it. last night was the fourth time i saw
    DT and it was the best by far. i have to admit that i am spoiled though,
    of all four times seeing them, i have been front row every time(which isn't
    hard to do if you know how to push people)

    Anyway, i snuck in a throw-away camera and got 27 shots of the band (all
    with flash) i must have been about 3 feet away at the most. the guards
    threatened me every time but every time they turned their heads i took another shot.

    After the show i got JL's and JP's autographs. they were so nice to everyone.
    i am still in a daze. hopefully i will be going to the Manhattan Center tonight to see them again. for anyone who is a DT virgin, DO NOT MISS THIS TOUR!

    Also, JL said that DT would be doing the East Coast again in the late spring
    and Summer, so be prepared!

    thebigO

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    Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 12:54:13 -0400
    From: "Jason K. Schechner" <jks2x@fermi.clas.virginia.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: I met DT!!!!!
    Message-ID: <199410281654.MAA51891@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU>

            I just wanted to adda few things to what Jason said. Iwas
    there last night too (in fact Jason and I recognized each other's
    Ytsejam t-shirts - WEAR YOURS!) and had an amazing time.

    On Oct 28, 7:33, hartman larry wrote:
    > Subject: I met DT!!!!!
    > YES!!!!!!!!
    >
    > I went to the Hammerjacks show in Baltimore last night. I'm in a hurry now
    > so I'll just tell you the good stuff.
    >
    > We waited out side after the show and I got ALL of their autographs!
    > John P. twice! They are all great! Derrik (sp?) was great too, he was
    > outside longer than anyone, James was out there the shortest time!

            Yep - he came out before anyone else, and was there almost
    until the bus pulled away. He seemed anxious to talk to anyone and
    everyone - asking names, what they do, etc. Real nice guy, and not a
    bad keyboardist either, though he isn't Kevin (well, who is???)

    > I got my picture taken next to Mike, next to John M., and next to John P.
    > I can't wait to get them developed. Mike saw my Ytsejam shirt and said he
    > wanted one, I told him that some were supposed to be mailed to them.
    > Where they??

            John Myung kinda snuck off the bus after a few minutes and
    went around back where I and only a couple other people met him. I
    showed him my Ytsejam t-=shirt and he was really impressed, saying
    he'd never seen one before and where could he get one. I told him
    that 5 were mailed to the record company and that he should ask them
    where they went. Then, I had him sign it on the Majest symbol on the
    front. In fact, I got all but James to sign it there. If you all go
    to meet them aftwerwards, or anything like that, wear your Ytsejam
    t-shirts and rty to make sure they notice.
            IT was also really cool telling John and Mike that I was the one
    asking them the questinos when we did the IRC thing. They both
    remembered it and said they thought it was really cool.

    > I heard from Derrik that they are gonna start working on Scarred next so that
    > they can play it on the tour.

            Actually, he asked if it's a good song or not - he hadn't
    listened to it before. He said he's been concentrating 100% on the
    songs they're doing on the tour and hasn't even heard any of the
    others. He also said that he'd only heard Pull Me Under when he did
    the audition. Some people get all the luck, eh? He seemed to be
    really interested in whether we thought his keyboards sounded like
    Kevin's. And before anyone else asks him about his hair - he said he
    just cut it and that it feels great now that it's short.

    > I asked John P if there was any chance of hearing ACoS on this tour and
    > he said, "Uh, No". Then I asked if they would make a single and again the
    > answer was "Uh, No". Damn....

            yeah. *sigh* Oh, and he had on this really cool Ibanez
    jacket. I wish they'd sponsor me. :-)

    > We started talking to Mike about his Beavis impression and then he pulled his
    > shirt up and he had a B+B shirt on!! He rules, HE RULES!!!

            Yeah, I think he's my favorite member of the band. He is a
    really funny guy in person. If you get a chance to talk to him at
    some point - do so.

    > Welp I'll tell ya more later.
    >
    > See ya!
    >
    > **************************************************************************
    > * Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu *
    > * *
    > * You're fighting the weight of the world, *
    > * and no one can save you this time. *
    > * Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. *
    > * *
    > * "Take the Time" - Dream Theater *
    > **************************************************************************
    >
    > -- End of excerpt from hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>

            Oh, they did say they'd be back in the area in the Spring or
    Summer. This is just a preliminary tour and they'd be doing a
    full-blown tour in early '95.
            Oh, Jason and I met Kaoru too, which was neat. IThe band was
    really impressed to learn that one of their fans from Japan was in the
    US and coming to each of hte shows, at least so far. Way to go Kaoru!
            I need to get back to work here. I just wanted to add that
    she show was fantastic - don't miss it.

    -Jason

    PS: Sorry about the tytpos, but the lag is really bad.

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    Date: Fri, 28 Oct 94 11:10:06 CDT
    From: James=Utz%Mech%PCPD=Hou@bangate.compaq.com
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: "Scarred" Missing on Tape
    Message-ID: <m0r0udH-000uIgC@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com>

            I'd like to counter those people who are complaining about Scarred's
    absence from the cassette tape version of Awake. I've only been buying CD's
    for about two years now, and I've noticed that many CD's have "Bonus Tracks"
    on them. These are typically songs that are not included on the cassette
    version of the release.
            I used to see this often; way back when CD's were "the new thing".
    The record companies did this to sell more CD's (and to sell the consumer on
    the concept of Compact Discs). This, in my opinion, was unfair. I didn't
    have a CD player, and I couldn't hear the Bonus Tracks.
            Nowadays, CD's are the norm. They are not the "new, unaccepted
    format" that they used to be. Standards have shifted from the LP & cassette
    days. The upper limit on the quantity of music is now set by the CD (about
    75 minutes), and if bands choose to use this limit, more power to 'em.
            The only reason Scarred was left off the cassette was due to space
    constraints. I know that 90+ minute tapes exist, but for some industry
    manufacturing reason, they are not used. I think they made the right
    decision in excluding that song from the tape. If I were still a cassette-
    oriented consumer, I would rather not pay CD price for a double cassette that
    has one extra song.
            For those of you who are "stuck" with the cassette version, I have
    two suggestions:
            1. Tape somebody else's CD on a 90 minute cassette and stop
                complaining.
            2. Consider buying a CD player (thus removing yourself from the
                dark ages). This is not the first time cassette buyers have been
                shunned, and it definately won't be the last. Believe it or not,
                you might not miss the tape hiss when you crank up the volume.

    Just my $0.02,
    James
    jutz@bangate.compaq.com

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    Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 12:45:17 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Stephan Dobay <sdobay@wam.umd.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: DT B-More -- Spoilers
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9410281244.A27066-0100000@rac3.wam.umd.edu>

    On Fri, 28 Oct 1994, Phil Felicia wrote:

    >
    > [Nothing like answering a question with a question, but...I'm answerless]
    > Did anyone catch what was being sung/spoken at the end of the drum solo?
    >
    Do you mean that kinda rap like beat thing towards the end? I'm not sure
    what was being said (something like-Here we're going to get wicked), but
    I know that I've heard it before on the end of a song called 'Bring the
    Noise' that Anthrax did with Chuck D.

    --Stephan
    --sdobay@wam.umd.edu

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    Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 12:18:32 -0500 (CDT)
    From: Nate Bradley <nbradley@d.umn.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Oops And More!!
    Message-ID: <199410281718.MAA25890@ub.d.umn.edu>

    Sorry about the unsub mesg to y'all. I an still going to be on the list but
    trying to get it set to the correct address.

    Well on other things, I will miss the DT/FW line up by one show. That bumms
    me out. I would really like to get a hold of a Fates Warning T-Shirt. If
    someone could post what types they see at the Show and the cost, then I would
    like to contact someone later on the tour to pick one or more up for me and
    send it to me.

    Thanks Much,
    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
     Nathan I Bradley The more I stretch,
     1320 Stadium Dr. G106 the more these walls confine me.
     Duluth, MN 55812-2405 -Fates Warning
     (218) 726-7720 URL http://ub.d.umn.edu:8080/~nbradley/
    ============================================================================

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    Date: Fri, 28 Oct 94 13:58:17 EDT
    From: Don Olive <dolive@unix.campbellsvil.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Concert Dates?
    Message-ID: <9410281758.AA03718@unix>

    Who knows them?......Concert dates that is. I'd like to see DT but
    need a list. Anyone?

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