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                            YTSEJAM Digest 510

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: Stuff
        by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
  2) Re: Dream Theater on IRC--Sept 15th at 10PM EST
        by alchemy@xmission.com (The Alchemist)
  3) Foundations Forum, Z-Rock, IRC
        by Ken McWatters <KRM3611@ACS.TAMU.EDU>
  4) Re: some backround for awake....
        by StmpyJCat@aol.com
  5) Re: #1(2) YTSEJAM digest 509
        by StmpyJCat@aol.com
  6) Re: Interval of Ytsejam's arrival
        by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
  7) Dream Theater ANSI ad
        by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
  8) well well
        by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
  9) Lie
        by Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>

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Topic No. 1

Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 10:28:56 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Stuff
Message-ID: <199409091728.KAA02444@bud.indirect.com>

> And stop apologizing for your grammatical mistakes. English is one of the
> hardest languages in the world to learn - and most DT fans don't know a bit
> of Japanese, so you are all already ahead of most of us!

        I agree... from where I sit, with all our slang and odd phrasing,
I'd say they are doing pretty damn well! :)

Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com, marabout@genesis.mc.maricopa.edu

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Topic No. 2

Date: Fri, 09 Sep 1994 18:16:38 -0600
From: alchemy@xmission.com (The Alchemist)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com, buffalo@panix.com (C-man)
Subject: Re: Dream Theater on IRC--Sept 15th at 10PM EST
Message-ID: <199409100015.SAA05642@xmission.xmission.com>

On Thu, 8 Sep 1994 12:10:04 -0400 C-man wrote:
>The Dream Theater appearance on the Internet Relay Chat will take place on
>Thursday, September 15th at 10PM EST. Those of you who've volunteered to
>moderate will be contacted shortly (Jason, Paul, etc--you know who you
>are)--thanks, in advance, for your time.

Sounds f***ing EXCELLENT! But what channel must we tune into?

>We can expect at least two members of the band going online (IRCing?) with us.

Brilliant!

>As a reminder, tonight (9/8) at 10PM EST, Mike Portnoy and John Myung of
>Dream Theater will be live on Compuserve (Rocknet Forum)--hope to see you
>there as well!

Really choice, but who in their right mind subscribes to CI$?

>Finally,for anyone with access to Prodigy, Michael Portnoy left a message
>in the Music BB area under 'Metal'/'D.T.-Michael Portnoy'
>
>Take care,
>
>C man
>
>P.S. A couple of more samples from AWAKE will find themselves on the web
>site by Saturday night

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The Alchemist Anthony Chavez
alchemy@xmission.com Salt Lake Community College
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Topic No. 3

Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 20:29:52 -0500 (CDT)
From: Ken McWatters <KRM3611@ACS.TAMU.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Foundations Forum, Z-Rock, IRC
Message-ID: <940909202952.4202daae@ACS.TAMU.EDU>

Hello all,

  A few bits of info and/or questions here.. by the way this is my first
post to this list... somebody uncork the champagne in celebration! :)

>Does anyone know what time DT plays the Foundations concert in LA on the
>22-24th?

Ok.. I have a little info on this from an unlikely source. I'm almost 100
miles east of Austin, TX, but I can kinda pick up their radio stations, often
quite well at night. So I happened to tune in to a show they were doing one
night on local music, and they were interviewing a band called Push Monkey, I
believe. They said they would be appearing at the Foundations Forum, and that
they would be right after Dream Theater, followed by Bruce Dickinson. I think
that they said that this would be on the first day, which I guess would be
the 22nd. I think that they also mentioned that Dickinson would be the last
artist in that first day, so that DT would be 3rd from the last act that day
or evening, but I'm not sure about that. I'm sure about the order that they
said the bands would appear in, though.

  This Austin band also said that the Forum would be a rather orderly event...
it will be in a large ballroom or something, with two stages at opposite ends
of the room. One band will perform on one of the stages, while the other stage
will be getting set up for the next act. So (if everything goes smoothly
anyway) the time between the end of one act and the beginning of the next act's
show should only be about 5 minutes. So, for anyone who is lucky enough to be
there, make sure you go to the stage opposite the one where a band's playing
before DT gets started. By the way, the band didn't make any comments about
DT other than the brief mention about the Forum... guess they have no idea how
dubious a position they'll be in, trying to follow up DT... hehe

   So, let's see, here's another contribution to discussion I can make that I
haven't seen mentioned before. Lie is being played on a nationally broadcast
hard rock network called Z-Rock. They only have select affiliates in some
areas of the northeast, the midwest, and a few isolated stations in the western
U.S. too, but their greatest concentration is probably in Texas (their station,
where the DJs are and everything, is in Dallas). But anyway, they premiered Lie
on a weekly show called New Stuff about 3 weeks ago, and I heard them play it
during that show again the following week. I've been pretty busy lately, so I
haven't been able to tell how often they're playing it, but I did hear them play
it once during normal programming, just a couple of days ago. I hope it gets
into regular rotation; I just can't hear it enough! :) I like it quite a bit,
but I guess that's just me. And yes, it sounds awesome in full CD quality. :)
Very intense. I can't wait to hear the rest of Awake.. I know there's enough
hard rock to satisfy me in Lie alone, and from people's advance reviews, it
sounds like there's some good progressive material on it as well.

  Sorry that this is rather long, just one more note, about the IRC chat with
some of DT next week. C-man says that some people will be moderating the
event. I hope that this means that the channel will actually be moderated.
For those not familiar with IRC, if a channel's just open, any yahoo can come
in and flood the screen, or type obscenities, or whatnot, to disrupt an
otherwise decent conversation. :) So I guess the people in charge of the
event can allow only people to talk if they are asking a question, to cut down
on unrelated stuff cluttering up the screen.. or if that's not considered too
important, maybe they can make the channel invite only. Either way, this may
require that people (from this list, maybe some others?) need to "preregister"
to be allowed to join the channel, or talk on the channel, during the interview.
Just offering a few ideas to make the thing go more smoothly.

That's about it for now. Talk to ya'll later on!
Ken

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Topic No. 4

Date: Fri, 09 Sep 94 22:34:28 EDT
From: StmpyJCat@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: some backround for awake....
Message-ID: <9409092234.tn658677@aol.com>

Mike Portnoy was quoted as saying about 6:00 (graciously translated by Alex
Reinelt)

"6 o clock - is driven by very heavy keys. kevin uses a jon-lord-on-acid
hammond.sound"

That is EXACTLY what I thought when I heard it! I then thought that
"Jon-Lord-on-acid" seemed like a bit of a redundancy, though!!!;-)

Stimp

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Topic No. 5

Date: Fri, 09 Sep 94 22:34:41 EDT
From: StmpyJCat@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: #1(2) YTSEJAM digest 509
Message-ID: <9409092234.tn658691@aol.com>

<<<And stop apologizing for your grammatical mistakes. English is one of the
hardest languages in the world to learn - and most DT fans don't know a bit
of Japanese, so you are all already ahead of most of us!>>>

Yes! Here, here!!! To all non-native-English-speaking-ytsejammers: DON'T
worry about the little grammatical mistakes you might make. The great
majority of us here get your message and understand you! The important thing
is you're here and communicating! Keep up the good work, guys (and Kaoru)!

Stimp

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Topic No. 6

Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 23:33:05 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Interval of Ytsejam's arrival
Message-ID: <199409100633.XAA15686@bud.indirect.com>

> Hi, I'm T.Okuda, japanese DT freak.

        Wow... DT really has hit it big in the land of the Rising Sun.
Glad to see ya here... bring a friend.

Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com, marabout@genesis.mc.maricopa.edu

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Topic No. 7

Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 00:51:37 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: garion@indirect.com, mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu, lerxst@tamu.edu
Subject: Dream Theater ANSI ad
Message-ID: <199409100751.AAA21177@bud.indirect.com>

Hi all!

        In my days back when I was an evil BBS pirate, I was part of an
ANSI group called Acid. I was doing ANSI work for pay and a local record
store took notice, and they were setting up for a big DT promotion since
DT was on its way to town for the first time ever (3/10/93). They gave me
$50 to create the following ANSI art. I just dug it up while cleaning off
the old hard disk so I had forgotten about it entirely! :)

I'm gonna give you a full blank screen so you can switch your emulation
to ANSI on your terminal so you can see this. AOLers and Delphi folks,
sorry, you're outta luck.

(you should be switching now)

(switch if you can)

(are you switched)

Here's the ANSI.


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6. Tour promos, tapes, and CD's CD's and MORE CD's to be found at ROCKAWAY!
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ROCKAWAY RECORDS -- THE ONLY PLACE IN ARIZONA WHERE YOU CAN GET:
* Dream Theater's "Images & Words" CD for a measly 8 bucks!
* DT's ORIGINAL UNRELEASED European debut album!
"When Dream and Day Unite" only $18.99 on Import CD!!
* Tour books, jackets, and tees from Dream Theater!!
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ANSI Artwork,(C) 1989-1993. This promotional ANSI for ROCKAWAY RECORDS has b
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paid for by the staff of ROCKAWAY in association with ATCO Records and (C) 1
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 Ytse Jams Music Inc. The artwork contained herein was 100% hand-drawn by Sn
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Dog of MAX and contains no material or facsimile of said material belonging 
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 [M/4X] Art Productions 1993 - A Collection of artists striving for perf
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       "You'll find all you need in your mind, if you take the time..."


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Topic No. 8

Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 00:53:07 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: well well
Message-ID: <199409100753.AAA21203@bud.indirect.com>

That ANSI didn't seem to post quite right.

I'll give a try at posting this to the FTP site.
Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com, marabout@genesis.mc.maricopa.edu

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Topic No. 9

Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 03:54:20 -0500 (CDT)
From: Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Lie
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9409100322.A27843-0100000@bigcat>

I just listened to Lie...and came up (took me a while) with something I
didn't like in the song...here goes...Why the heck did they give half the
song to John, when they could've made it an even better one by sharing
with Kev...for example; in take the time, almost all of the solos are
John and Kev kinda battling (if you will) during the solo (both are doing
incrdible solos at the same time, or take turns to give it an awesome
approach)...with Lie, especially during the part where John is using a
little too much of his new Wah pedal, Kev's just kinda there somewhere in
the background...instead of up front in the mix doing a complimentary
solo along with John...No wonder he left (jus kiddin)...I'm serious
though, the keys make so much of a difference in the band, and this is
just another example of either bad arranging, or a producer who's just
looking for hits (which as succeeded!) (IMHO). Anyone else with me on
this one?
        Aw heck...I'll go on (it's way early, and noone's even up yet, so
hat the hey)...Since I've heard part of SDV, and Eroto, I'll give my "So
Far" opinions. SDV...what can I say (if I haven't before)...with just the
first 50 seconds I'm totally blown away...I think this could possibly be
the absolute perfect song...and if so, then I have no use for listening
to anything anymore...anyways, this definetly shows just how important of
a piece DT has lost (considering the majority of this song is Kev's)
(member-wise)...I'm sure they have found an excellent replacement (the
band does have good taste!)...but this song is kinda eerie, and yet
melodic and kinda (xcuse the phrase) beautiful (I freakin' hate using
that word!!!) at the same time...I don't know...it's just...Cool! Eroto
(or at least the 50 second sample) is totally killer, and once again, Kev
is sounding totally excellent...the sounds he has on those keys are just
incredible, and set a really gentle tone to the musical chaos going on
throughout the majority of the mix (that's what I've always liked best
about DT, the ability to have a million different musical emotions going
on all at once...Killing Hand for instance!). And once again...as with
every DT song...the musicianship is perfect on all...Mike and Myung are
both a lot more audible in the mix...and (I still can't believe I'm
saying this) James "Yes he can actually sing" LaBrie...well, you get the
hint (and that's what I'm referring to him as from now on!!! (unless he
butchers all of AWAKE while on tour).

        Well fellow DT enthusiasts...it's been fun...and I want a
butt-load of responses/opinons/veiws/thoughts to come from this...cause I
Took The Time (I'm totally sorry!!!!!!)...Take care, and don't
worry...it'll be KILLER!!! Later!

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According to the circle of fifths, and the pattern of sharps and flats:
If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sig's) (i.e
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major
would have 4 sharps.

                              emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu

           ERIC MOEGLING: emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu
                                    
                            as297@freenet.hsc.colorado.edu

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