YTSEJAM Digest 525
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) jordan rudes w/ dixie dregs
by Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca>
2) Re: James' vocal style on Awake.
by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
3) Re: SDV
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
4) Re: SDV in AWAKE
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
5) All reviews of Awake
by Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu>
6) Support for Kevin Moore
by AirDance@aol.com
7) Re: Awake and WDADU
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
8) Re: Awake and WDADU
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
9) Re: I got my DT tickets!!!
by DocLandau@aol.com
10) Re: singing at the end of SDV
by Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>
11) Re: SDV in AWAKE
by Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>
12) Re: SDV in AWAKE
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 524
by Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu>
14) Re: "Tasteful" soloing
by Jonathan Larkowski <larkows3@nes.nersc.gov>
15) Re: Lie Parody
by Jonathan Larkowski <larkows3@nes.nersc.gov>
16) Re: james live vocals
by dh2q@hrzpub.th-darmstadt.de
17) RE:SDV in EROTOMANIA
by Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>
18) RE:SDV in EROTOMANIA
by Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu>
19) Re: singing at the end of SDV
by klos <klos@vela.acs.oakland.edu>
20) Re: Awake and WDADU
by Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
21) Dream Theater in Dallas
by jskewes@ix.ix.netcom.com (Jason Skewes)
22) DT in Baltimore - please read
by hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
23) Re: "Tasteful" soloing
by Matthew M Leger <mml@kepler.unh.edu>
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Topic No. 1
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 15:26:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: jordan rudes w/ dixie dregs
Message-ID: <9409212226.AA10779@malibu.sfu.ca>
Hi,
Has anyone seen the Dixie Dregs in concert this time around?
Jordan Rudes is playing with them.
If you've seen them, what do you think of his playing?
I'm going to see them tonight, and can't wait to see him perform.
I'll also wear my DT shirt and see if he notices it :)
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Topic No. 2
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 15:47:51 PDT
From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: James' vocal style on Awake.
Message-ID: <199409212247.PAA03389@netcom18.netcom.com>
>
>Someone recently said that he might not be able to faithfully
>reproduce a lot of the songs live. I disagree. I think he
>sings most of the songs on this album much closer to his vocal
>'style' live. Much rougher and throatier. Especially on "Lie".
>Maybye this was on purpose?..
>
>Zach
This has been an ongoing issue... Have you ever seen DT live? Well... I
have... LaBrie does a good job. He faithfully reproduces his album quite
well, he is a trained singer... not song seattle grunger that decided he
was gonna sing cause he couldn't play any instruments (ooooo what a cheap
shot)...
Bu the pet peeve I have about Dream Theater live is that their sound
SUCKS... being in audio production and engineering, I can honestly say
that their sound people are the lower bunch of the can... but this is
evident in a lot of new inexperienced bands, they just can't seem to get
the mix correct... The guitar is too low one show, you can't hear James
one show... one show sounds like it's ok... no consistency.
I hope this tour it's different!
-The Doc
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Topic No. 3
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 18:40:54 -0500 (CDT) From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: SDV Message-ID: <199409212340.SAA27259@galaxy.galstar.com>
> > Here's a question...am I totally stoopid, or is that not someone else > singing at the end of SDV? I swear that cannot possibly be James!!! Same > person is also singing backup on The Silent Man. Kinda sounds like > whoever has a slight either New York, or English accent (hard to tell > when they're singing).
hmm....could be the producer of the CD... or hell, someone said Kev had recoreded some demos of his own (with singing), so it could be him singing.
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Topic No. 4
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 18:43:44 -0500 (CDT) From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: SDV in AWAKE Message-ID: <199409212343.SAA27328@galaxy.galstar.com>
> I was Just listening to Lifting Shadows off a Dream, and noticed that the > dude who said you could probably find the melody to SDV in all the songs > was totally right with this one! At the very beginning of the Guitar solo > is the melody of SDV but it's drawn out to where it catches ya by > sruprise...I'm gonna keep looking for it in everything else, and will > keep ya posted! (it's also in Mirror at the end...but it's Way obvious > there!). Later!
I think that it's fitting that Mirror "mirrors" other songs. Any other songs in Mirror?
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Topic No. 5
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 21:19:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: All reviews of Awake Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9409212151.I2392-0100000@uclink.berkeley.edu>
Hi! I'm a DT fan who 1) doesn't have a copy of Awake yet 2) doesn't have a copy of the Lie single yet 3) has never even *heard* "Lie" on the radio yet (though I requested a couple of hours and waited 2-3 hours each time)
Some of you people out there who have accomplished any of the above three are very lucky bastards (I hope you all realize that!!). And each time one of you lucky bastards posts a review of the album to the list, it, uh...*intensifies* my frustration at not being able to hear a note from the new album. On top of that, I don't have access to cable, so I can't watch the MTV premiere of Lie on Headbanger's Ball (that'll soon be #4 on that list). Anyway, that's enough whining. I say, keep those reviews coming. Though I'm gonna get more frustrated and pissed with each review, it'll make me feel a whole lot better once I do have that album.
Drooling in anticipation, Younis Hilal
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Topic No. 6
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 94 20:00:16 EDT From: AirDance@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Support for Kevin Moore Message-ID: <9409212000.tn23042@aol.com>
Hi again, everyone-
Here's the list of IDs for everyone who has sent an e-mail of support for Kevin Moore to one of my e-mail addresses as of 9-20-94:
altman@sfu.ca bertapel@ucsu.colorado.edu bvc8995@tamsun.tamu.edu emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu freak@cube.net garion@indirect.com gmsanbo@chopin.udel.edu jks2x@fermi.clas.virginia.edu khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu MadMax+@cmu.edu mdb0213@tamsun.tamu.edu mheath@morgan.com M.J.Thomas-SE2@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk mp67+@andrew.cmu.edu pjhollow@wheel.watstar.uwaterloo.ca soeryant@egr.msu.edu wwright@galaxy.galstar.com
If you *did* send an e-mail to me and your ID# does NOT appear on this list, PLEASE send your mail to me again to ensure that I've received it. I want to make sure that everyone who wants to include a message gets a chance to do so, and since some of you may not have seen my original post to YJ and are wondering what I'm talking about, I'm attaching that original note to the end of this one.
If any of you have been thinking about sending a message to me for Kevin but are hesitating for whatever reason (too much schoolwork, you think what you have to say doesn't matter THAT much, you're worried about grammar because English isn't your first language, you really need to clean the cat's litter box, or you're just plain lazy :-), please, don't waste another minute! :-) Join the other fine folks on this list in contributing your thoughts and feelings about Kevin and putting into words the effect his music has had in your life.
To all of you who have already taken the time (pun intended:) to sit down and compose a message of support for Kevin, THANK YOU!!! :-) You all deserve a great, big electronic *HUG*. You have touched me more than words can express and I'm sure Kevin will feel the same way. :)
Keep 'em coming!!!! :-)
Take care all-Jennifer air dance@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------- <begin forwarded message> Hi fellow YtseJammers-
I guess since most of you have settled back in at school for the fall term and re-subscribed to the list, you know by now that Kevin Moore has left the band. I'm terribly upset about this, as I'm sure many of you are, but it really was something that the rest of the band members saw coming for a long time. Kevin wasn't happy being in DT anymore. He no longer felt that he was being honest with himself musically and felt that his creativity was being stifled, so it really was the best decision for everyone involved. Usually, when the excuse "musical differences" is given as the reason for departure by a band member, it sounds awfully hokey, but in this case, it is actually very true. Kevin plans on pursuing a solo career and, at this point, has the full support of and is still being managed by DT's management company, Round Table.
Since so many of you have publicly voiced your concern over this matter, I thought it would be appropriate for those who are interested to be able to let Kevin know how they feel and express their support for him personally. If any of you would like to send a message of support to Kevin, please e-mail it directly to one of my on-line ID's (*DON'T* post it to the YJ mailing list), which are:
air dance@aol.com p.terrell@genie.geis.com mriodom@delphi.com HTTR83B (on Prodigy)
with the subject heading "Kevin Moore". All of your messages will be printed out & compiled, then forwarded in a package directly to Kevin on September 30th. Please try to send your e-mail out to me at least the day *before* that date to ensure that it is included. If it doesn't make it in time, don't worry too much, I'll continue to compile your notes and send more of them in another package at a later date if they keep coming. :) I won't be able to acknowledge that I have received each of your notes personally, but I will post a note publicly on YJ near the end of the month listing the ID#s of the people whose notes I've received. If your ID# doesn't appear on the list at that time & you did in fact send me a message, please re-send your message to me again to ensure that it is included. And *please* spread the word to the other on-line services about this support network for Kevin, the YJ mailing list is the *ONLY* place where I am posting this note.
Leaving DT was an *extremely* difficult decision for Kevin to make and he needs all of the kind words and well wishes he can get right now. If his music has touched you in any way, please let him know that you care. :)
Jennifer (air dance@aol.com) <end forwarded message> -------------------------------------------------------------
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Topic No. 7
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 19:02:40 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Awake and WDADU Message-ID: <199409220202.TAA03874@bud.indirect.com>
> it was the superior album? Sure I&W had some more polished and technical > playing, but WDADU was better composed and had coherent, while still complex,
I'm one of the few who thinks the songs in WDADU had more to them. The thing is, this "more" becomes overwrought in songs like Afterlife and Light Fuse. The rest of the album is excellently written, and parts of Fortune In Lies and Status Seeker will bounce through my head for days if I let them. :) Problem being, HORRID production. The Broon Remixes of SS and AL are a blessing.
> IMO DT's second best song is Light Fuse and Get Away (LtL beats it because > of the amazing stuff here...unfortunately lasting only for short amounts > of the song and then vanishing into the void), simply because it is such > a well written song.
Too overdone. And this is coming from someone who appreciated all of The Fountain of Lamneth! :) Light Fuse stood fairly well without the CHEEEEEEEZY chorus. It should be its own song.
> Of course, this is harmed by the cheesy Another Day/Surrounded type songs > which I hear are on Awake.
Awake is...
6:00 - Totally new. Take the Timeish. Caught In A Web - Under A Glass Moonish. Innocence Faded - TOO DAMN Another Dayish. Erotomania - very Ytsejamish. Voices - Metropolisish. The Silent Man - something new. Sort of To Live Foreverish. The Mirror - Totally new. Almost The Killing Handish. Lie - Pull Me Underish. Lifting shadows off a Dream - VERY Surroundedish. But pretty good. Scarred - Learning to Liveish. And just as good... Space Dye Vest - Totally new!
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Topic No. 8
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 94 18:55:12 PDT From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Awake and WDADU Message-ID: <9409220155.AA03853@fas2.lsil.com>
> From ytsejam@arastar.com Wed Sep 21 18:26:20 1994 > Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 17:49:07 +0800 > Reply-To: ytsejam@arastar.com > Originator: ytsejam@arastar.com > Sender: ytsejam@arastar.com > From: "JEREMY PETER LAKATOS" <jeremy@alder.circa.ufl.edu> > > Everyone is wondering if Awake will measure up to I&W. My question: will > Awake measure up to When Dream and Day Unite? Am I alone in thinking > it was the superior album? Sure I&W had some more polished and technical > playing, but WDADU was better composed and had coherent, while still complex, > songs.
I wish I had been into DT from the time WDADU was released. Perhaps, then, I could give a better appraisal of which is the better album. I do think that Awake is much more coherent than IAW. It sounds to me like they knew exactly how they wanted it to sound from the outset. > IMO DT's second best song is Light Fuse and Get Away (LtL beats it because > of the amazing stuff here...unfortunately lasting only for short amounts > of the song and then vanishing into the void), simply because it is such > a well written song. > > If Awake combines the musicianship of I&W with the songwriting talent of > WDADU, it may even be better than WDADU. Surpassing I&W will be a somewhat > easier task. > > Of course, this is harmed by the cheesy Another Day/Surrounded type songs > which I hear are on Awake.
No. Only Innocence Faded might be considered "cheesy". I think this is a good song only *possiblely* hurt by the chorus. The Silent Man, as I said before, gives me that feel that The Sphere does at the end of Circumstances (Rush). SDV, although not as "in your face" as every other song on the album (sans IF), is, I think, one of the best compositional/lyrical (powerful while simplistic) songs they've ever done. I hope they can retain these standards on the next album. I think this album is an excellent, logical *progression* from IAW. I also think that Awake has them showing off less than they did on the previous two albums as far as "speed-jamming" goes. Their composition on this one is phenomenal though. The subtilties here are amazing. DT has matured excellently. > jeremy (jeremy@grove.ufl.edu) >
Something we'll never see: a Dream Theater cover band.
Three or five more excellent albums and DT might move Rush back to second place as far as my favorite bands go... in a year that begins with a 2 that is.
Zach
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Topic No. 9
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 94 23:07:22 EDT From: DocLandau@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: I got my DT tickets!!! Message-ID: <9409212307.tn41676@aol.com>
I NEED 2! I WILL PAY!!!! Send E-mail directly to DocLandau@AOL.com, PLEASE!!!!
I NEED THEM BAD, DUDE!
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Topic No. 10
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 22:48:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: singing at the end of SDV Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9409212237.A15601-0100000@bigcat>
Well, it's definetly whoever is singing background on Silent Man...just wondering who though. I can see this being Kev...but the accent sounds kind of english or something...so who knows.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------- According to the circle of fifths, and the pattern of sharps and flats: If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sig's) (i.e A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major would have 4 sharps.
ERIC MOEGLING: emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu as297@freenet.hsc.colorado.edu
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On Wed, 21 Sep 1994, TIM LODGE - SGA SENATOR/PRE-LAW/MICRO/MAC LABS wrote:
> I think its probably Petrucci, since he sings back up > on The Silent Man. I think..... > > > Tim > >
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Topic No. 11
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 23:02:58 -0500 (CDT) From: Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: SDV in AWAKE Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9409212238.A15601-0100000@bigcat>
Actually, Mirror doesn't "Mirror" half as many songs as Erotomania does...this one has parts of everything. The whole second side of the tape "Mirrors" SDV except Lie...but since it ties in to Mirror so well, you'd think they were one long song. There's parts from every song on the first side leading up to "A Mind..." in "A Mind" (did that make sense?). This whole album is very well thought out, and it's just excellent! Even the bad songs are good (just not as good as the rest of it). And for those asking about how it compares to the other albums...I think each one's so different that they're uncomparable...I personally liked WDADU a little better than I&W...but this one's so different from those two, that it's like a whole new side of DT. C-ya!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------- According to the circle of fifths, and the pattern of sharps and flats: If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sig's) (i.e A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major would have 4 sharps.
ERIC MOEGLING: emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu as297@freenet.hsc.colorado.edu
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Topic No. 12
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 94 20:56:05 PDT From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: SDV in AWAKE Message-ID: <9409220356.AA03966@fas2.lsil.com>
> From ytsejam@arastar.com Wed Sep 21 20:43:11 1994 > Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 19:59:11 +0800 > Reply-To: ytsejam@arastar.com > Originator: ytsejam@arastar.com > Sender: ytsejam@arastar.com > From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> > > > > I was Just listening to Lifting Shadows off a Dream, and noticed that the > > dude who said you could probably find the melody to SDV in all the songs > > was totally right with this one! At the very beginning of the Guitar solo > > is the melody of SDV but it's drawn out to where it catches ya by > > sruprise...I'm gonna keep looking for it in everything else, and will > > keep ya posted! (it's also in Mirror at the end...but it's Way obvious > > there!). Later! > > I think that it's fitting that Mirror "mirrors" other songs. Any other > songs in Mirror? >
Heh... just heard it in Erotomania as I was reading that. Voices is *very* Queensrycheish. Maybye like something off the album in between Mindcrime and Empire.
Zach
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Topic No. 13
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 21:54:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 524 Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9409212100.A9930-0100000@uclink.berkeley.edu>
On Wed, 21 Sep 1994 ytsejam@arastar.com wrote: > > Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 10:03:47 -0400 (EDT) > From: "JEREMY PETER LAKATOS" <jeremy@grove.ufl.edu> > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: Awake and WDADU > Message-ID: <199409211403.KAA13337@grove.ufl.edu> > > Everyone is wondering if Awake will measure up to I&W. My question: will > Awake measure up to When Dream and Day Unite? Am I alone in thinking > it was the superior album? Sure I&W had some more polished and technical I don't know about "superior." I do consider them equals, but different. WDADU, IMHO, had a lot more musical "rambling" than I&W, and, on average, the songs on WDADU were a lot less structured than on I&W. I thought that was great!!!! I thought it really gave each player (except for Charlie) to really shine by showing off his skills, and that's something I very much favor. In I&W's defense, the band's overall sound seemed a lot more unified in I&W. This was good, but it seemed like they really toned down that free-form musical style that seemed to dominate WDADU, which I thought was a bad move. That's my only gripe with I&W.
> playing, but WDADU was better composed and had coherent, while still complex, > songs. > > IMO DT's second best song is Light Fuse and Get Away (LtL beats it because > of the amazing stuff here...unfortunately lasting only for short amounts > of the song and then vanishing into the void), simply because it is such > a well written song. > > If Awake combines the musicianship of I&W with the songwriting talent of > WDADU, it may even be better than WDADU. Surpassing I&W will be a somewhat > easier task. On top of that, I'm hoping DT will come up with an awesome combo of the "loose playing" of WDADU and the "tight" playing of I&W. If they did, this album is gonna floor me!!
Younis Hilal (Yes, I'm still drooling.)
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Topic No. 14
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 94 22:04:30 PDT From: Jonathan Larkowski <larkows3@nes.nersc.gov> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: "Tasteful" soloing Message-ID: <9409220504.AA36947@nes.nersc.gov>
Matt Leger wrote:
"in every one of his solos (maybe not Silent Man) have a blindingly fast section"
Well, I cannot say too much having not heard the album. But who cares how fast notes are picked as long as they are in the context/mood/style of the song. Some things have to be "said" slow and soulful on a guitar, some things have to be agressive and unnerving. Tasteful in my opinion does not translate into not playing fast licks. I think the soloing in Lie is completely appropriate. I'll wait for the album before I say any more about this.
"All right." -- John Myung's response when once asked how he felt
Lark
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Topic No. 15
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 94 22:08:02 PDT From: Jonathan Larkowski <larkows3@nes.nersc.gov> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Lie Parody Message-ID: <9409220508.AA37050@nes.nersc.gov>
Sorry about the flak I gave when replying to the Lie parody. Evrything would have been OK if the song had been sent with a disclaimer or something. :)
Later!
P.S. Images & Words is pretty cool too. :)
Lark
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Topic No. 16
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 09:48:30 +0200 From: dh2q@hrzpub.th-darmstadt.de To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: james live vocals Message-ID: <9409220748.AA45030@rs22>
as you might know the last sundays edition of HBB (i love vanessa, is she pregnant????) covered the foundations forum (spelled right??). the last part , about 15 min, was an interview with mike and james and two short live shots from their gig at the forum ... and i'm sorry but i have to say that LIE is not much better to sing for our poor james :-(. he sounded like he did when i saw them several times in '93. but its not that tragedy you all make of it, even Geoff has problems sometimes (cancer might cure his smoking someday, too :-)). i prefer to have e great sounding voice in my cd collection available whenever i want it. but like always INMO. the interview itself was very honest and i got the impression that mike is my top member. he's a great guy. i don't wanna retell the whole interview, i think everything was mentioned here before or at least in the IRC.
matthias th-darmstadt germany
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Topic No. 17
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 03:02:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: RE:SDV in EROTOMANIA Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9409220313.A11998-0100000@bigcat>
Zack dude...I think you're loonin' it on this one...I just listened to Eroto, and I really think you're hearing things! I could be wrong, and WILL give it a listen is just a sec...but I just heard it, and don't think it's on this one (one of the few songs that doesn't). Later (I'll be back to verify this!)!
----------------------------------------------------------------------- According to the circle of fifths, and the pattern of sharps and flats: If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sig's) (i.e A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major would have 4 sharps.
ERIC MOEGLING: emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu as297@freenet.hsc.colorado.edu
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Topic No. 18
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 03:33:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Eric Moegling <emoeglin@bigcat.missouri.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: RE:SDV in EROTOMANIA Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9409220346.A18481-0100000@bigcat>
Yep...Zack, you're definetly loonin' it!!! I'm totally sorry to say this, but it's nowhere to be found in that song. In the others it's pretty obvious...so either you're just poking fun at us, or you need to seek help (been to too many live shows I guess!). Take care dude!
(sorry to post this to the entire group...but hey, now ya know!)
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ERIC MOEGLING: emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu as297@freenet.hsc.colorado.edu
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Topic No. 19
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 04:18:10 -0400 (EDT) From: klos <klos@vela.acs.oakland.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: singing at the end of SDV Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9409220436.A7045-0100000@vela.acs.oakland.edu>
I believe that it is John P. who is singing the back-ups since he does this on the accoustic version from R.I. I must say also, Thank You Tim!! For everything....
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jason T. Klos Chasing Time Through the Ivory Gate of Dreams Isnt it strange how laughter looks like crying with no sound and raindrops taste like tears....without the pain R.I.P. Criss Oliva, you will be missed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Topic No. 20
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 07:51:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: Awake and WDADU Message-ID: <AiUKyae00WB3Morq9Z@andrew.cmu.edu>
Excerpts from mail: 21-Sep-94 Re: Awake and WDADU by Michael Bahr@indirect.co > Too overdone. And this is coming from someone who appreciated all > of The Fountain of Lamneth! :) Light Fuse stood fairly well without the > CHEEEEEEEZY chorus. It should be its own song.
It would be nice if people would stop throwing around the word cheesy when talking about DT...or at least define it when you use it. I don't think everyone's on the same page here. Personally I love the chorus to Light Fuse, and I don't see anything "cheesy" about it. The stuff the keys are doing there is awesome. Overall, a brilliant song. The solos especially. If only they'd had a better guitar tone for that album. WDADU is a lot heavier than I&W but you can't tell because the guitar sound just doesn't have any meat to it.
As to which is better, well, i love both albums but I think I&W is the better of the two. There's just no topping Metropolis and Learning to Live. And the sound on WDADU flat out sucked. I&W sounded much better (despite being poorly produced itself.) I also think I&W is much more original, compositionally, than WDADU, a lot of which falls neatly into the neoclassical category whereas I&W pretty much stands on its own. I think WDADU had better guitar solos, though. The one in AFIL is really impressive...i think it's my all-time favorite guitar solo. I only listen to it on Live at the Marquee, though.
speaking of guitar solos, from what I've heard of Awake, I think John Petrucci should give Kirk Hammett wah pedal lessons, so that Kirk can better cope with that pedal that's permanently grafted to his foot.
max ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I understand mine's a risky plan and your system can't miss but is security after all a cause or symptom of happiness? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Topic No. 21
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 07:39:41 -0700 From: jskewes@ix.ix.netcom.com (Jason Skewes) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Dream Theater in Dallas Message-ID: <199409221439.HAA08791@ix.ix.netcom.com>
I just got the word that Dream Theater will be playing in Dallas on Monday, November 14th. They will be playing at Deep Ellum live which is quite a bit bigger than the place they played here when they were touring for I&W.
Tickets go on sale tomorrow (Friday, Sept 23). No word on price yet. (Like that matters where DT is concerned!!)
If anybody is on here from around DFW and will be attending, let me know and maybe we can hook up.
Later! Jason
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Topic No. 22
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 10:05:15 -0400 (EDT) From: hartman larry <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: DT in Baltimore - please read Message-ID: <199409221405.KAA17052@umbc9.umbc.edu>
I've heard from about 6-7 people that are also going to the show at Hammerjacks in Balitmore on Oct 27th. I was wondering if anyone would be interested in getting together somewhere before the show and getting a bite to eat or something? I wouldn't want to meet after the show though because I will be dead from standing up and getting crushed all night plus I have class in the morning.
Anyone know of any good places to hang out before the show?
Also, if you are going, please wear your Ytsejam t-shirt (if you have one).
See ya!
************************************************************************** * Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu * * * * You're fighting the weight of the world, * * and no one can save you this time. * * Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. * * * * "Take the Time" - Dream Theater * **************************************************************************
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Topic No. 23
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 11:05:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew M Leger <mml@kepler.unh.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: "Tasteful" soloing Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9409221115.A28209-0100000@kepler.unh.edu>
On Thu, 22 Sep 1994, Jonathan Larkowski wrote:
> Matt Leger wrote: > > "in every one of his solos (maybe not Silent Man) have > a blindingly fast section" > > Well, I cannot say too much having not heard the album. But who cares how fast > notes are picked as long as they are in the context/mood/style of the song. > Some things have to be "said" slow and soulful on a guitar, some things have > to be agressive and unnerving. Tasteful in my opinion does not translate into > not playing fast licks. I think the soloing in Lie is completely appropriate. > I'll wait for the album before I say any more about this. > > Lark
LARK,
This is my point: Petrucci seems to pick fast notes where a more moderate tempo would fit just as well if not better. Granted, seeing that Lie is an aggressive song, it fits; but other songs the solo just doesn't fit.. Wait until you hear the album.....
Matt
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