YTSEJAM Digest 772
Today's Topics:
1) Guitar World Interview
by 91laujon@wave.scar.utoronto.ca (LAU JONATHAN)
2) DT keyboards and whatnot
by David M Thomas <dmthomas@suncube.CCS.ORTN.EDU>
3) Pronunciation
by Joseph Kruger <krjoseph@freenet.columbus.oh.us>
4) subscribe
by "AARON PERKINS" <217290@sbuniv.edu>
5) Re: yeeham!
by Lazarus - aka Simon Smith <sjs@st-andrews.ac.uk>
6) Faith No More??
by hmarq@interaccess.com (Hank Marquardt)
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 771
by BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu
8) Update on Awake TAB book
by Brandon Vaughn <EDLEADER@uwf.cc.uwf.edu>
9) Metropolis transcription
by Dario M Zagar <dmz2@columbia.edu>
10) driving problems
by "Derek D. Sussner" <derek@pandora.micro.umn.edu>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 771
by siggih@ibm.net (Siegfried Hanisch)
12) Re: voc-melody
by HEADSTRONG <SL98MJ85@acs.wooster.edu>
13) Type O Negative
by Rob Weychert <weyc9212@kutztown.edu>
14) Re: Faith No More??
by Rob Weychert <weyc9212@kutztown.edu>
15) Napalm Death
by Rob Weychert <weyc9212@kutztown.edu>
16) Re: Faith No More
by jforte@acl.nyit.edu
17) Re: Pronunciation
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
18) Re: Lords of sound
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
19) anybody trade with these guys?
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
20) Re: YTSEJAM digest 771, several things.
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
21) DT content!
by YBBX10C@prodigy.com (MISS JAIME K KIMPTON)
22) Re: ytsecon
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
23) Re: Nitpicky, anal, DT comments
by jbako01 <jbako01@barney.poly.edu>
24) Re: song simil, etc
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
25) ACOS
by John B Ashcraft <jbashcra@uncc.edu>
26) Flames directed to me.
by srvrip@qualcomm.com (John Hough)
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 09:24:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: 91laujon@wave.scar.utoronto.ca (LAU JONATHAN)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Guitar World Interview
Message-ID: <9504041324.AA08843@wave.scar.utoronto.ca>
Does anybody have the Guitar World magazine interview
with John Petrucci and John Myung. I think that it's
the November 1994 issue. The front cover has a picture
of "Prince" on it.
Unfortunately for me, some idiot ripped some pages out
of the only copy at my local public library. I was
pissed! Well, if someone has a transcribed copy of it
somewhere then PLEASE email me a copy. I would really
appreciate it.
Jon.
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 09:57:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: David M Thomas <dmthomas@suncube.CCS.ORTN.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT keyboards and whatnot
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950404094814.7193A-100000@suncube.CCS.ORTN.EDU>
Hi all!
There has been enough talk about musicians on the list and
jammers interested in keyboard parts to get me off my lazy butt and
say that I'm a 17 year old keyboardist who was recently in a DT/Rush
cover band,and anybody interested in keyboard transcriptions,Kevin
Moore/Derek discussions,or for that matter anything concerning the
music of DT is more than welcome to email me.
Ta-
David
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 10:01:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Joseph Kruger <krjoseph@freenet.columbus.oh.us>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Pronunciation
Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9504041032.A17872-7100000@acme>
Can someone enlighten me on how to pronouce Ytsejam?
Thanks.
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 09:51:56 CDT
From: "AARON PERKINS" <217290@sbuniv.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: subscribe
Message-ID: <C48CB6154@sbumast.sbuniv.edu>
whoa
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 17:25:23 +0100 (BST)
From: Lazarus - aka Simon Smith <sjs@st-andrews.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: yeeham!
Message-ID: <Pine.3.87.9504041649.A6356-0100000@pasta>
Hi, all!
I started reading 'Jam about a two months ago and finally got round to
contributing.... (God only knows, it took me long enough! =:} )
> mavanop@grfn.org wrote:
>
> Also, many guitarists have stated how they can play like Petrucci, how
> many keyboard players out there can play like Moore did? Just wondering
> because his style was unique, not something you learn in those elementary
> school piano lessons.
>
I've been trying to play like Kevin for several years now (some hope...)
and I _still_ can't get the start of Wait For Sleep right! Anybody else
managed it? This is my first post to Ytsejam so I'll keep it short.
Are there any more keyboardists out there? There seems to be a lot of
guitar discussion here, but little keyboard stuff (not that I'm putting
guitarists down :) ) In particular, does anyone know if the full
transcriptions of the keyboard parts will be in the Awake book? Is it
going to be everything, or will it just be tab and melody? I've got most
of Space-Dye Vest figured out, but there's a couple of chords that I can't
quite figure. Any help much appreciated....
Secondly, does anyone know the reason why DT cancelled the UK tour apart
from London? I was all set to go to Glasgow and they pulled out! A real
shame as I was looking forward to seeing how Derek fitted in. I still
haven't heard any of his DT stuff, so I don't know how he compares to
Kevin. More (no pun intended :) to the point, does anyone know if/when
they're coming back to the UK?
I was considering coming across to the Ytsecon, but I just can't afford
the airfare. Enjoy yourselves, guys. I'll be sitting in sunny (?)
Scotland feeling jealous.
Before then, PANIC! Our bands got their first gig on Sunday with the
current line-up and we're covering QR's Someone Else? with just piano and
vocals. Wish me luck!!
Lazarus
______________________________________
\ \_______ Lazarus - <sjs@st-and.ac.uk>
\ How come you don't understand me? ________________
\__________ And how come I don't understand you? \_
\___________ Thirty years says we're in this together \___
\___________________ So open your eyes.... \
Keys, backing vox \______________ DT - Scarred \
& crap jokes for Ex Machina. \_________________\
Ex Machina WWW Page at: http:/iamac.st-and.ac.uk/ExMachina/
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Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 10:36:57 -0500
From: hmarq@interaccess.com (Hank Marquardt)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Faith No More??
Message-ID: <199504041638.LAA13142@home.interaccess.com>
>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 20:43:50 -0600 (MDT)
>From: SPUDS <bunkerg@rintintin.Colorado.EDU>
>To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
>Subject: Faith No More??
>Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950403202146.17171A-100000@rintintin.Colorado.EDU>
>
>
> 6) I'll bet Frank is a big Nelson fan.
>
Now before we start a Nelson bashing thread (though Frank bashing would be
OK <grin>), please file thier guitarist (Brett Garsed) under INCREDIBLE
talent who wants to eat and pay his bills. If you haven't heard of him,
look for an album called "Quid Pro Quo" with T.J. Helmrich (worthy in his
own right) on Legato records (MVarney's fusion label). BG also appears on a
couple of compilation CDs, also published by Legato.
Hank
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Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 13:13:41 -0500 (EST)
From: BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 771
Message-ID: <01HOXXCSK0FS000N3H@sgenva.CC.GENESEO.EDU>
Hello everyone, it's Babs. This note is to Bernd. I feel so bad that
your all the way over in Germany (I also feel bad for all the European,
and Asian ytsejammers). I don't want to exclude anyone. How 'bout the
next time I speak to their management if I ask them if they have a birthday
club or perhaps I can arrange it for when they fly Derek and James in they
do a little lap over you way and grab you - after all it is your birthday.
Just a little light stuff for you all, this is not that serious of a note.
I'm sure that I will get yelled at by the guy who reemed out everyone for
commenting on the most trivial things because we like to see our names in
print or something. HAVE A NICE DAY :) -BABS
PS - Whatever happened to that poor guy that us girls yelled at because he
addressed his post to his fellow brothers of the ytsejam? I hope that
we (the women) didn't scare him away. Anybody know what happened to him?
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Date: Tue, 04 Apr 95 12:38:30 CST
From: Brandon Vaughn <EDLEADER@uwf.cc.uwf.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Update on Awake TAB book
Message-ID: <m0rwCcn-0001vPC@donews.cts.com>
Since I opened my big mouth saying that the Awake TAB book
should be ready by now, I thought I'd better give you an
update. Warner Bros. have it on their computer but still
don't have it in stock. They are guessing two to three more
weeks. So hopefully by the end of April, it should be out.
Sorry for the slightly _inaccurate_ info.
Brandon Vaughn Edleader@uwf.cc.uwf.edu
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 13:56:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dario M Zagar <dmz2@columbia.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Metropolis transcription
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950404134419.21151A-100000@ciao.cc.columbia.edu>
About the opening (and other) F# chords in the transcription of
Metropolis in the I&W book being D/F#, I don't think that's right. I
used to play it as B/F# (and I'm still not sure the book is right). Most
of the stuff in the book is dead on (at least in notation--some of the
tab and the lyrics are wrong), especially in Metropolis, so I'm sticking
with the book's F#. Just my little poorly worded opinion.
Dario
P.S. All the good stuff about Coroner is right. Try No More Color,
Mental Vortex, or my favorite, Grin, and prepare to be impressed! And
just as an aside, for any still not in the know, you all should pick up
King Crimson's VROOOM ep (the full album Thrak comes out the end of this
month). These guys are truly the shit!
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 12:56:52 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Derek D. Sussner" <derek@pandora.micro.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: driving problems
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.950404125433.23617A-100000@pandora>
If you think driving to Pantera is a challenge (and an enjoyable one at
that - especially in a crappy little Escort), then try driving to Fight!
Any word on Halford and the boys?
D-
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Date: Tue, 04 Apr 95 19:57:30 EDT
From: siggih@ibm.net (Siegfried Hanisch)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 771
Message-ID: <199504041824.AA166062@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net>
>For those of you who like the energy of Pantera and the musicianship of
>DT, check out a band called Coroner!
I fully agree. Seen them live a few times. Unfortunately they have split
a few months ago. They were from Switzerland (Europe).
>Here are the great albums from Coroner:
>No More Color, Mental Vortex, and Grin!!
Don't forget "R.I.P." and "Punishment for Decadence"
Greetings # They shoot without shame
Siegfried Hanisch # In the name of a piece of dirt
=====================================# For a change of accent
siggih@ibm.net # Or the colour of your shirt
ssaver@ibm.net (ScreenSaver support) # Better the pride that resides
=====================================# In a citizen of the world
PGP public key available # Than the pride that divides
Team OS/2 # When a colourful rag is unfurled RUSH
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Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 14:39:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: HEADSTRONG <SL98MJ85@acs.wooster.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: voc-melody
Message-ID: <01HOY0KAC06Q8WY2Q5@acs.wooster.edu>
how do I unsubscribe to the list?
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 15:25:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rob Weychert <weyc9212@kutztown.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Type O Negative
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950404152329.9164A-100000@atlantic>
>P.S. To those who don't like Type O Negative, don't worry, they
probably won't do more than 30 to 45 minutes.
Wow, that sucks. With the length of their songs, that would only allow
for about 4 songs!!
--ROb
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 15:55:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rob Weychert <weyc9212@kutztown.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: Faith No More??
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950404153631.9164B-100000@atlantic>
1) Well, first of all, I did THINK about posting about FNM's new album
(King for a Day...Fool for a Lifetime), but really have been too busy. I
too got it last Tuesday (today was the new KMFDM!) and have been enjoying
it since then on quite a regular basis. At first, I was a little let
down from Angel Dust, but that is passing as each time I listen to this
new disc, I like it more! One thing that continues to bother me is the
lack of keyboards. They really cut back on the keyboard attention this
time around and placed more emphasis on the guitar. Nothing wrong with
cranking up the guitar a bit, but they don't even have a guitarist right
now!! Trey (Scummy) only played for the album, and is not part of the
band, nor will he be touring with them. Anyway, personal favorites of
mine include: King for a Day (reminded me of Angel Dust :), Cuckoo for
Caca, and The Gentle Art of Making Enemies (vocals are insane! :).
Overall, an excellent album, and if you hurry, you'll get a sticker with
the CD!! (Does anyone know if the tape comes with a sticker too?)
2) I was elated at your mention of FNM and saddened at your knock of
Peter Steele from Type O Negative. I am a humongous fan of Type O
Negative and I happen to think his voice is REALLY cool. Have you
listened to the whole album? And what is the song that is 'ALWAYS' on
the radio (I never listen to the radio)? I know you've got your opinion
(not a very knowledgeable one if you've only heard one song...), but I've
got mine too and just thought I'd stand up for a terrific band.
3) I also remember Mike Bahr mentioning ska and his definition
(sorry) was absolutely incorrect. As I recall, he defined ska as bands
such as Green Day who can't really play but just play shit as fast as
possible, etc. Ska, as I've come to understand it, is the combination of
styles such as metal, punk, hardcore, reggae and jazz. There's usually
lots of horns and stuff. The only ska bands I'm into right now are both
phenominal: Fishbone and The Mighty Mighty Bosstones. Check them out if
you should have the occasion; they're both great! If anyone is familiar
with any other ska-related bands, please E-mail me.
Sorry for the non-DT content, blah blah blah... ;)
--ROb
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 08:56:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rob Weychert <weyc9212@kutztown.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Napalm Death
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950404085336.17467A-100000@atlantic>
To the person who was wondering about James' Napalm Death t-shirt in the
PMU video:
Barney (Napalm Death's vocalist) is a big Dream Theater fan (remember, he
'sang' Metallica's Damage Inc. with DT at the covers gig in London) and
when he had the occasion to meet them, he gave them t-shirts. Mike P is
the only one to have seen the band play last I heard, but that was almost
two years ago. Anyway, the PMU video was shot on short notice, and the
Napalm Death shirt just happened to be what James was wearing. They're
actually a very good band, if you're into that sort of super-heavy,
grindcore type music.
--ROb
P.S.--If anyone can tell me why I've been having a bitch of a time
sending stuff to this list, I'd love to hear from you. When I try to
send stuff to ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com, it only gets through less than
half the time; in fact, if you're reading this, it was one of the lucky
times...
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 16:29:59 -0400
From: jforte@acl.nyit.edu
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Faith No More
Message-ID: <95040416295937@acl.nyit.edu>
> 1) I am TRULY shocked and disgusted that nobody has even THOUGHT about
>mentioning Faith No More's new CD _King For A Day, Fool For a Lifetime_.
I have the new disk and i like it a great deal...I do think in some respects
it is thier lightest album yet ( although some of it is really heavy). The
band has definitely changed a lot from "The Real Thing" and since Patton
joined the band I've seen more of a Mr. Bungle influence in the music. IMO
the keyboards are mixed little to low on some of the heavier songs. I like the
new guitarist though.
JEFF
jforte@acl.nyit.edu
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 95 15:41:01 PDT
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Pronunciation
Message-ID: <9504042241.AA15867@tengs1.teng>
> From: Joseph Kruger <krjoseph@freenet.columbus.oh.us>
>
> Can someone enlighten me on how to pronouce Ytsejam?
>
> Thanks.
"Yet-say jam!" (James on DoE)
or I settle for "yet-see jam" myself.
Perhaps we should put this in the FAQ
since this has come up before?
Zach
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 95 15:46:46 PDT
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Lords of sound
Message-ID: <9504042246.AA15941@tengs1.teng>
> From: Jarrod Kamsey-Lewis <jarrodk@up.edu>
>
> I was just looking through (and downloading) the images on one of the
> many web pages(it's a good one BTW), and noticed the cover for a double
> cd named "Lords of Sound." What is this cd? Judging by the songs on the
> cd, it sounds like something I would like to have. Can anyone shed some
> light on this for me?
>
> As for driving with DT, I'm from CA, so speed limits are not too
> much of a problem.
>
> Jarrod Ramsey-Lewis
> University of Portland
LOS is an excellent boot. Parts of it are a little shy of the
quality of DoE, but I like LOS better. The drum solo at the
end of TLF has a cool intro to Status Seeker. And the solo itself
makes the DoE solo sound like Romper Room in comparison. Plus
it has the "Puppies on Acid" (a.k.a. The Mirror intro) intro to
Take The Time.
Zach
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 19:01:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: anybody trade with these guys?
Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9504041959.I9235-a100000@bdmserver>
Has anybody had any successful trades with:
Jeremy Haynes jhaynes@connix.com
or
Chris Anderson Parallels@aol.com?
It's been aobut 2 months since I sent tapes to them and I have
received nada.
Also I have been inquiring about the status via email for over 3 weeks
and also have received no replies.
What do people consider way 2 long to get owed tapes?
As you may understand I am not a happy camper.
Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com
"Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater
"That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 19:23:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 771, several things.
Message-ID: <199504042323.TAA20716@opal.cs.brandeis.edu>
A few quick things from yesterday's digest:
> From: Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 770
>
> 1) L'Amore's, Brooklyn.
>
> Audio was okay. Picture quality was decent, but, it was a still
> camera, shooting from the right side of the stage, across to the left.
> You could see everyone. Set seemed about average.
This video is a club shot (ie, tripod) from 1/8/93. The copy that I
have is incredible quality audio and video. They also did an extra
track that I have not heard on any other boots. It almost sounded
like the theme from Goodfellas.
> 2) Toronto
>
> Picture quality was PHENOMENAL. The camera work was actually half
> decent! Lots of Zooms/Pans, but, the guy stayed on top of shit. Sound
> quality? A bit thin, probably because he was shooting down at the stage,
> and was a considerable distance back. Despite this, they must've been
> LOUDER THAN HELL, because the sound distorted from time to time.
>
This is an aud show. Quality is very good. Date is 7/20/93.
> 3) Ack, I forget this one...somewhere in NYC.
>
> From what I remember, it looks like this is a video shot during
> the DoE show - though, I'm not sure. See if this helps.
>
There are 2 videos from this show floating around. It is the DoE
show. If I remember correctly, the one w/o the beginning of the show
is the aud video. There is another one that DT shot as some
promotional video called "Industry Showcase: An Evening With Dream
Theater" and is shot from 2 different cameras, and has someone who
IMO, is EXTREMLY annoying interviewing several people. I also believe
Jens is somewhere on this video???
> ------------------------------
>
> From: YBBX10C@prodigy.com (MISS JAIME K KIMPTON)
> Subject: absolutely NO DT content WHATSOEVER!!!
>
> Just thought I'd mention that I picked up a CD of Queensryche's show at the
> Astoria Theatre <that indeed is how it's spelled!> in London 10/20/94. The
[snip]
> "sort-of-mediocre" day. <G> And this is indeed authorized, unlike the DT
> bootleg CDs; Geoff was asking the audience to shout nice things because it
> was being taped and they <the band> would have to live with it for the rest
> of their lives.
>
Close... This is a boot... QR did, in fact tape this show, but this
CD is not from their tape. The audio sounds suspiciously like the
audio off of the video of this show...
> ------------------------------
>
> From: Jarrod Kamsey-Lewis <jarrodk@up.edu>
> Subject: Lords of sound
>
> I was just looking through (and downloading) the images on one of the
> many web pages(it's a good one BTW), and noticed the cover for a double
> cd named "Lords of Sound." What is this cd? Judging by the songs on the
> cd, it sounds like something I would like to have. Can anyone shed some
> light on this for me?
>
This is a boot from the Milwaukee Summerfest show. Source of the show
is an FM broadcast, so quality is very good.
--
+----------------------------------------+----------------+---------+
| And I'll smile and learn to pretend | Dream Theater | Michael |
| And I'll never be open again | Space Dye Vest | Burstin |
| And I'll have no more dreams to defend |-----Awake------+---------+
| And I'll never be open again | Let's Go Pens |
+----------------------------------------+--------------------------+
For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
http://cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html
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Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 15:30:06 EDT
From: YBBX10C@prodigy.com (MISS JAIME K KIMPTON)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT content!
Message-ID: <013.05139025.YBBX10C@prodigy.com>
Since someone wanted to know... this is back from 7/93
James: He looked pretty tired, but he hung around for a few minutes and
answered lamebrain questions like "Is your hair naturally curly?" He
wasn't feeling particularly talkative, though - from what I'm told, that's
true to form when he's in that kind of a mood..
John P.: He was so cool - very personable, very chatty guy. I still think
he's lying when he says he's 5'11", he ain't that much bigger than I am! :)
<approximately 5'8 1/2"> Fielded lots of dumb questions with grace and a
few intelligent questions with relief. <G>
John M.: Didn't say very much <of course>, spent most of the time talking
to one guy that was apparently in a band he knew. But later he came back
and let those of us that were left in the gate - which the guard wouldn't
do. Kudos are extended from everyone who was there then! :)
Kevin: That man is such a trip. He had us all in hysterics with his
wisecracks. I got him to actually *smile* for only the second time that
night - you wouldn't think he knew how sometimes.
Mike: >The world's biggest DT fan< Absolutely!!! Enthusiasm must be his
middle name, he was just thrilled to death that we <well, some of us> were
diehard fans. Most bands will sign tickets and GO, but he stuck around for
a good half hour with us. Probably one of the last times anyone saw him
clean shaven - a month later in the LiT video he had a beard. :)
"I believe that situations all depend on circumstance..."
Savatage "Chance" Jaime the Dragon
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 95 18:22:02 PDT
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: ytsecon
Message-ID: <9504050122.AA16749@tengs1.teng>
> From: BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu
>
<<ytsecon stuff deleted>>
Babs: First, has there been any interest of doing a "convention"
out west somewhere? Second (forgive me if I missed this before),
what is going to be the cost/`jammer to reserve the space for this?
Third (for anyone in general), what's cheaper for cross-country
travel: flying or Amtrack?
> PS - Whatever happened to that poor guy that we girls yelled at because he
> addressed his post to his fellow brothers of the ytsejam? I hope that
> we (the women) didn't scare him away. Anybody know what happened to him?
He's auditioning for the lead part in the sequel to
"A Clockwork Orange" :>\>
Zach
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 00:52:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: jbako01 <jbako01@barney.poly.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Nitpicky, anal, DT comments
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950405005040.23961C-100000@barney>
On Sun, 2 Apr 1995, Christopher Caminiti wrote:
>
> 3. In the "Pull Me Under" video, what's the deal with James' Napalm
> Death shirt (which he again mentions in the Awake pull-out as 'the
> infamous shirt')? Is it a joke? I've heard some pretty disturbing
^^^^^^^^^^
> things about that band, and I was just wondering. . . :(
>
Interesting choice of words there, why?
Am I the only Napalm Death/DT fan around here??? I know the range
between the two is a bit broad.
James Bako
jbako01@barney.poly.edu
Polytechnic University
Brooklyn, New York
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 95 18:47:17 PDT
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: song simil, etc
Message-ID: <9504050147.AA16804@tengs1.teng>
> From: Michael Van Opstall <mavanop@grfn.ORG>
>
>
> I would like to know more personally about the members of DT from those
> of you who have met them. Here's what I know (or guess) about each:
>
> J. Petrucci - definitely the leading musical and lyricl force behind the
> band. Seems somewhat quiet (not very). No matter what the credits say, I
> suspect he's behind most of it. DT could not survive without him,
> although I feel the rest of the members could be replaced (not all at
> once though).
Hmm, I dunno... how could they find a vocalist to replace James?
Mike seems the next irreplaceable (maybye the drummer from Cynic?).
Myung, well, since you can't hear him half the time, perhaps...
but after seeing him play up close, I realize that he contributes
a *hell of a lot* more to the songs than I thought before.
A friend of mine (who has never met the band) thinks, as you do,
that Petrucci is the driving force behind the band.
(If the aforementioned persons happen to read this, please
take no offense !>)>
> J. Myung - quiet, withdrawn, yet possibly one of the most technically
> proficient members of DT. Brilliant lyricist, but not proficient. Most
> spiritual and religious member. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What do you mean by this?
> M. Portnoy - enthusiastic, childlike, excited member. Worlds biggest DT
> fan. Almost like he's not a member of the band but just follows them
> around. Very emotional.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
But in a good way! When I saw them in SFO, he said he had spent
almost the whole week on the Fates' bus because those guys were
partying fools. Definite party animal. Smokes Marlboro Lights,
~ a pack and a half a day. Drinks Yeagermeister.
> J. La Brie - don't really know. Now he's becoming a spokesman for the
> band. I too wonder about that infamous Napalm Death T-shirt.
Seems a little offstandish at first, but I think he's just
playing the part as frontman for the band with seriousness.
> D. Sherinan - don't know anything so lets go back to...
Really cool [and the gang] dude. He seemed very enthusiastic
and just liked to chill and talk with the fans for quite a
while. Back then, he was really hoping that DT would make him
a permanent member, and he was glad that we supported this.
UNT,
Zach
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 23:22:13 -0400
From: John B Ashcraft <jbashcra@uncc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: ACOS
Message-ID: <199504050322.XAA14766@unccsun.uncc.edu>
Has anyone one else noticed that one small part of ACOS sounds exactly like
part of Steve Morse's "Tumeni motes". I am not sure where because I don't
have it on cd and it's such a long song. It is definately in the last half.
Like that helps but check it out anyway.
doeas
Does anyone agree?
Trey
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Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 20:44:28 -0700
From: srvrip@qualcomm.com (John Hough)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Flames directed to me.
Message-ID: <199504050344.UAA09938@qualcomm.com>
Holy shit, I really started something with a simple fuckin opinion! I just read
5 jams in the past hour cause I've been gone all weekend at a conference
in LA. So I am responding in order of the responses on the jam,
On Mar ?? James Bako wrote in response to my message:
*My message again just for you Frank!*
>> Just got the new SID mailing and it said *gulp* TYPE O NEGATIVE is
>> opening for QR on the North American tour? That really sucks. IMHO!!!
>
>Why does it suck?? Just because QR is not touring with some other similar
>prog-metal band, such as hmmmm..... Dream Theater?? Give QR a break,
>isn't this the same band that brought Suicidal Tendencies with them on
>their last US tour? Give them some credit for open-mindedness.
I do give them credit for open-mindedness, they can take whoever they
want on tour with them and I'd still go. NOTICE I put IMHO in my post, am
I not allowed to voice my opinion that I think personally that TON sucks?
CALM DOWN PAL!
>This is the same kind of bullshit attitude
Bullshit attitude? Just because I don't like your 2nd favorite band I have a
attitude? I'm sure there are ALOT of people who don't like KISS on this list
but because they are my favorite band doesn't mean I'm going to tell
someone they have a bullshit attitude! I think you should look in the mirror
before you start ripping people because they don't like TON. GROW UP!
>Now if Type O Negative could only open for Dream Theater :)
Oh the Horror. (Had to throw that in to see if you grew up after reading
this! :) )
>James Bako
>jbako01@barney.poly.edu
Someone else also said for me to remember that not everone hates what
I hate. I know that, but that's why I put IMHO afterwards. It's my opinion.
cashmadb@cleo.bc.edu (Frank) also wrote a bunch of bs I won't bother
repeating. GROW UP FUCK! Do you think anyone else gives a fuck what
you think either. If you don't like my opinion GOOD! This is a free fuckin
country.
****above written after response towards my original post, following
written after Frank bashed others on the jam.****
FRANK CALM DOWN PSYCHO BOY!!!! IT'S JUST AN OPINION!!!!!
I bet you think you are cool to threaten someone over a computer list,
shakin' man I am fuckin' shakin'!
OK BTW thanks to Jeff and a few others who supported my right to my
own opinion. Please excuse my furious tone in the Frank responses but
I was quite floored that someone could be so moronic. One more thing
Frank, stay in school dude.
Sorry for the length and for the time it took to respond to this, but I felt
I should try to respond in my own behalf on something I started.
*Wheeeeeeesh*, Whoa, large flame just past me by.
I M H O!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Live it, love it, learn it.
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John Hough
srvrip@qualcomm.com
"Jesus knows my story, he knows the position that I'm in
A hooker knows the feeling to get fucked the way I've been."
Skid Row - "Subhuman Race" from same CD.
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