YTSEJAM Digest 799
Today's Topics:
1) I&W Tab in UK??
by "Mr R.J. Chinneck" <R.Chinneck@liverpool.ac.uk>
2) THE ONES WHO HELP TO SET THE SUN (fwd)
by Brian Nielsen <norman@iesd.auc.dk>
3) EuroPopDays
by filippo macchiettini <macchiet@dsi.unimi.it>
4) RAW
by borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk
5) Re: Phoenix and Denver Residents !!!
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
6) Ronnie James Dio
by Shawna Lea of the Many Nicknames <SADAMS1@WELLESLEY.EDU>
7) Re: Different Stuff (A little DT content).
by Jeff Lanctot <pandora@u.washington.edu>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 798
by basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de (Bernd Basmer)
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 798
by BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu
10) Pier 6 & Queensryche
by Steve Borzilleri <silenzio@elwha.evergreen.edu>
11) catching up
by Mats Rydstr\vm <d94-mry@nada.kth.se>
12) Awake tour book?
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 798
by YBBX10C@prodigy.com (MISS JAIME K KIMPTON)
14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 797
by "Jonathan J.S. Tischio" <tischio@caip.rutgers.edu>
15) How many posts do you read!
by Shawna Lea of the Many Nicknames <SADAMS1@WELLESLEY.EDU>
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 797
by "Jonathan J.S. Tischio" <tischio@caip.rutgers.edu>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 798
by mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 798
by mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
19) BEER
by Andrew J Feyder <afeyder@gac.edu>
20) Queensryche
by kkish@selu.edu
21) falsetto<again>
by zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
22)
by mjmoore@uccs.edu
23) Majesty
by Vic Calzoni <vcalzoni@pine.shu.ac.uk>
24) DT SHIRTS coming at ya!
by Jason Giles <jgiles@crl.com>
25) YTSECON
by "Steven Jacobsen" <jacobses@ditco.disa.mil>
26) Re: YTSEJAM digest 798
by Paul Tullo <pawly@eden.rutgers.edu>
27) Rock over Germany, Rock Hard magazine
by goebel@inf.fu-berlin.de (Ties Goebel)
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 09:38:52 +0100 (BST)
From: "Mr R.J. Chinneck" <R.Chinneck@liverpool.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (D.T.Mailing List)
Subject: I&W Tab in UK??
Message-ID: <199504280838.JAA21330@oak-46.liv.ac.uk>
Dear all,
I ordered the I&W tab. from my local Virgin Megastore in Liverpool about a
month ago. Today (Friday 28th) I got a note saying that this book had been
deleted and was therefore no longer available. Does anyone know if this is
true/false?
If it is true, can I order it from the states?
I can't believe that Warner won't publish this tab in the UK so what't up?
Please write to me and help if you can at all, thanks a lot,
Rob Chinneck (robchin@liverpool.ac.uk)
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 11:03:42 +0200
From: Brian Nielsen <norman@iesd.auc.dk>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: THE ONES WHO HELP TO SET THE SUN (fwd)
Message-ID: <199504280903.LAA07252@xi.iesd.auc.dk>
>>>>> "nguyen" == nguyen john t <jtnguyen@kirk.cs.twsu.edu> writes:
nguyen> I love this song!!!! Am I the only one. I know they
nguyen> played this at the beginning of the _Awake_ tour, but soon
nguyen> after they dropped it from the set. Why? I saw them at
nguyen> Hammerjacks in Baltimore, and they played it, I seemed to
nguyen> be one of two people who new what the hell was going on.
nguyen> Anybody have a copy of that show, or any show this tour
nguyen> which they played TOWHTSTS? Thanks.
I consider this song one of the best off WDADU. I think you kind of
answer your own question when you say that only two people knew what
was going on. It doesn't make sense to play songs that noone knows,
when people don't get into it. That doesn't explain why they played
ACOS, EVE and TLF on their IW tour, those songs wasn't even released
on any albums. Perhaps _Awake_ has brought a lot of new 'fans' (i.e
concert-goers) that just haven't gotten into their earlier stuff.
You know, most people not on this list think IW was their debut!!!
-- +------------------------------------------------+ | Brian Nielsen | | Department of Mathematics and Computer Science | | Aalborg University, Denmark | | | | email: norman@iesd.auc.dk | +------------------------------------------------+------------------------------
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 11:10:53 +0200 From: filippo macchiettini <macchiet@dsi.unimi.it> Subject: EuroPopDays Message-ID: <199504280910.AA061810253@pippo.sm.dsi.unimi.it>
Hi all! I havn't read the list for some weeks so sorry if the following topics have been discussed yet...
- EUROPOP DAYS FESTIVAL, Freiburg (Germany 12-15 May)
I wonder if any ytsejammer will attend this festival. There will be 100 not-signed bands from over Europe playing in front of music producers, talent scouts etc. etc. Maybe I'll be there to see a friend of mine playing with his band ("Wrong Side" (?) from Italy).
- DT STUFF
Tele+2 (Italian Sport Channel) sometimes shows a spot announcing the May/ June/July sport events with a "condensed" version of "Take the Time" as music! (about 1 minute). Anyway, this is not the first time that the Italian TV uses DT as soundtrack for their TV commercials: in fact VideoMusic (the Italian music channel) uses the first seconds of "6.00" for the spot of a book show. Quite paradoxically the show is called "Metropolis" :)
P.S. If you have anything to tell me about the EuroPop, just mail me so we won't trash the list with no-DT topics. Filippo macchiet@ghost.dsi.unimi.it
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:46:38 BST From: borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: RAW Message-ID: <9504281046.AA24770@uliaga.dcs.gla.ac.uk>
Short article in RAW magazine :
"Dream Theater are rehearsing material for a new EP, due out this summer. It will feature the band's epic, 20-minute track, 'A Change Of Seasons', a live favourite and cult classic with DT fans. The band recently received a 100-page petition from fans via the Dream Theater Internet site, requesting the song to be recorded and released!
"It's unclear whether the rest of the EP will feature live cuts or new studio material, but the band plan to tour the US festival circuit in support of its release."
So it looks like we finally did it!!! :)
Graham B.
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 03:49:16 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Phoenix and Denver Residents !!! Message-ID: <199504281049.DAA16100@bud.indirect.com>
> Phoenix and Denver 'jammers, > > I would like your help. I have recently been made to very good job > offers in both Phoenix and Denver. The problem is that I can only > choose one. The offers are in really close competition. > > So if you can describe the local music scene, such as bars, clubs > etc. I am not talking about dance clubs, but clubs that cater to > heavy/progressive metal and hard/progressive rock. Also let me know > of any of your favorite local bands.
Well, shit, I can't say too much for Phoenix except that some half decent bands live here. The club scene is probably much like it is in most cities... there are 20-30 clubs total. not dance clubs, but clubs where rock bands play. Bands who occasionally do extra shows here or start/end concerts here and play rehearsal material here include: Gin Blossoms, Meat Puppets, Megadeth, Lynch Mob/Dokken, Sepultura, Sand Rubies, etc...
Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 08:03:32 -0500 (EST) From: Shawna Lea of the Many Nicknames <SADAMS1@WELLESLEY.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Ronnie James Dio Message-ID: <01HPV5KT27C28WWOD4@WELLESLEY.EDU>
Ronnie James Dio is one of the best __METAL__ singers out there. He is not a wanker (not that I would know a wanker if I saw a wanker). He has sung for Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow, Black Sabbath (He is great on _Dehumanizer_), as well in the band of the same name, Dio. Dio is a great band in their own right. They are not comparable to DT in the sense that they are really two separate music styles/genres and thus shouldn't be compared, but both bands are really hot...**DT CONTENT** :)
Shawna Lea Adams Muireann MacOisdealblaigh drealla@spike.wellesley.edu sadams1@wellesley.edu
I ride the flames... Burn Baby Burn...:)
Love is an act of blood and I'm bleeding A pool in the shape of a heart Beauty projection in the reflection Always the worst way to start... -"Space-Dye Vest" Dream Theater _Awake_
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 05:24:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Lanctot <pandora@u.washington.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Different Stuff (A little DT content). Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91i.950428051911.3254A-100000@saul5.u.washington.edu>
On Fri, 28 Apr 1995, George Voronoff wrote:
> 1) There has been a discussion about vocalists on this list lateley and > I noticed one vocalist missing that I have never heard mentioned on > this list (Well, at least since I've been reading it). Anyway, I > happen to think that hes pretty good if you like hard rock/metal. > I'm talking about Ronnie James Dio... I can already feel the falmes.
I don't know what a falm is <g> but let me put in a big 'hell yes' for Ronnie James Dio. I have heard from bunches of 'straight' metal fans out there, and know that you and I are not alone in liking Dio! > Anyway, one or the reasons that I like him because he sounds like he > is singing (well, growling) low even when he is sining high. > This (I think) is considered to be a very rare and respected > qality in vocalists. Yea, I know he's a wanker. Anyone > have any opinions? About Dio, not me ... I know I'm a wanker too ;)
Well, I can't speak for you <g>, but Dio sure as hell isn't a wanker! Not only can the guy sing, he consistantly comes up with great imagery and great themes in his lyrics. Can I get a big 'whoa Dio' from all the Dio fans out there? :) (OK, OK... I admit it, I occasionally watch 'Married, With Children... Im so ashamed! :) ).
~Jeff
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 15:15:36 +0200 From: basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de (Bernd Basmer) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 798 Message-ID: <9504281315.AA03206@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de>
Hi Jammers!
>1) There has been a discussion about vocalists on this list lateley and >I noticed one vocalist missing that I have never heard mentioned on >this list (Well, at least since I've been reading it). Anyway, I >happen to think that hes pretty good if you like hard rock/metal. >I'm talking about Ronnie James Dio... I can already feel the falmes.
YEAH!!!!!! Ronnie rocks!! Have you ever seen him live? Ok. Perhaps he should leave this dragon-fighting things but RJD is a great singer and he has a great voice.
Just MHO!!
Bye.
Bernd.
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 09:22:44 -0500 (EST) From: BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 798 Message-ID: <01HPV7XIYEB6000V5J@sgenva.CC.GENESEO.EDU>
This is in response to George's post about contests for the YTSE convention. Yes, I am currently working on contests, etc. with management. At this point all I want to hear from them is a YES answer, then I will worry about the contests. Hang in there everyone! -BABS
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 06:28:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Borzilleri <silenzio@elwha.evergreen.edu> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Pier 6 & Queensryche Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9504280508.A15714-0100000@elwha.evergreen.edu>
To Andrew Miller: Here's what I can remember about the setlist...
Metropolis Part 1, Under A Glass Moon, A Fortune In Lies, Surrounded, To Live Forever (w/extended guitar solo in 3/4 time that I have never heard done at any other show), Take The Time, Drum Solo, Nothing Is Sacred (formerly Status Seeker), Wait For Sleep, Another Day, Pull Me Under, Learning To Live.
"Yeah, backstage they asked us, "you guys wanna cancel? There's a storm blowin' in." We said FUCK THAT." --James LaBrie
This was the show at which I hesitated for three seconds before diving over chairs to grab one of Petrucci's picks that I saw hit the ground. Someone else got it, and to this day I have never again hesitated in a move-or-lose situation such as that...
"Seize the day, I heard him say..."
To Dr. Mosh: Me me me! I read every single LINE!!! (what with all these new faces popping up suddenly, I can't just skip over them...)
To The Ones Who Help To Name The Best Queensryche Album: My vote would also be "Operation: Mindcrime." It's a wonderfully put-together album, with a theme behind it, making all the songs part of a storyline. Plus, there's a female vocalist that sounds a lot like Geoff Tate, and in fact is the only woman I have ever heard who sings in that style...
"Empire" isn't bad if you like heavier stuff. There's no running theme, however, but they do touch on themes of past albums. "Promised Land" isn't bad if you like softer stuff. All in all I'd say this one is their lightest album yet. Good songwriting, great production, but lacking in bite.
Bafu Vai
p.s. when is Mike Portnoy gonna do his drum solo with his kit suspended from the ceiling with huge bungee cords so he can do his solo bouncing around the arena???
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 15:30:26 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mats Rydstr\vm <d94-mry@nada.kth.se> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: catching up Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91N2.950428150942.3283A-100000@mumrik.nada.kth.se>
Hi, I'm catching up on quite a few subjects as usual:
#1: Yep, I read almost every darn message, almost! I definately spend too much time with this, that's for sure!
#2: Is SUBCONSCIOUS that hard to spell? English is not my mother-tongue, or my mother's tongue (Spinal Tap-reference: see if anyone got that :-)) but I don't have a problem with that name, though my English sux from time to time! BTW, I'm eagerly awaiting my copy, how many have you done yet Mike? And yes, a VERY big thank you to Mike for doing this. And what's next? 'When Dream And LaBrie Unite'? I guess if that happens, that will happen sometime in the fall, am I right?
#3: I remember reading something about PMU being awarded some kind of prize in 1992. It was something like: 'Metal song of the decade', I know I've heard this somewhere, or is it a hoax?
#4: Like some other people here on the list, I would like DT to relax a little more on stage, jam, do improvised solos, fool around. But those days are probably gone now, now that they attract large audiences. They wan't to give every audience an equal, consistant show, and I think that's a bit boring. I don't mind seeing a 'bad' show if it's different. I agree that some jams do go nowhere, bu DT should be able to pull that off. There are parts that could be extended alot. I will go listen to my CDs and maybe give you some suggestions.
..as for recommendations for other bands:
King Crimson: - Red (1974) - Discipline (1981) - Thrak (1995) or one/both of the two bix box-sets that exists
Rush: - 2112 (1976) - Hemispheres (1978) - Moving Pictures (1981) - Counterparts (1993) ...actually one of their best IMO
Queensryche: - Operation: Mindcrime (1988) - Empire (1990) - Promised Land (1994) ...yes, I love this one! or even better, go see them at one of their shows on the current tour, they are totally amazing!
That's All!
/Mats
________________________________________________________________________ / Mats Rydstrom - d94-mry@nada.kth.se - http://www.nada.kth.se/~d94-mry / /-----------------------------------------------------------------------/ / "We can hope for the future, though there may not be one" - ACOS / /_______________________________________________________________________/
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 10:15:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Awake tour book? Message-ID: <199504281415.KAA04786@rpc29.gl.umbc.edu>
I was just watching the video for the Japanesse pay-per0view show and it looked like some of the people in the audience had some type of tour book. It had the album cover on the front and it said World Tour or something. Does anyone know what this is or where I could get one?
The video is really cool. I'm sure if my copy were a few generations higher, it would be about as good as LiT. The sound and picture are pretty good but the actual mix isn't that great. John M is a bit too loud and his sound is kinda sloppy. Not that his playing is sloppy, but the actual sound the guitar is making is sloppy. The best way I can describe it is if you were to mic a pot of spagetti while you were stering it.
James cracks quite a bit. Everyone else seems to have a very good night. Derik (Derrick, Derrik, Derick?) really rips!! The piano solo in TtT is awesome as well as the instrumental after LSOaD, its very ending-solo-on-To-Live-Forever-from-Live-in_Tokyo-video- ish. (wow thats a long word, kinda like dirtyfishydishcloth. :) )
Anyone know what the Japanese people are saying during the begining and during the interview?
-- ************************************************************************** * Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu * * * * You're fighting the weight of the world, * * and no one can save you this time. * * Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. * * * * "Take the Time" - Dream Theater * **************************************************************************
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 09:12:37 EDT From: YBBX10C@prodigy.com (MISS JAIME K KIMPTON) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 798 Message-ID: <013.05978460.YBBX10C@prodigy.com>
Quoth JennieBear...
>my husband's one-man DT campaign is continuing... he has now hooked his >supervisor at work!
Hahahaha - there's a conversion campaign in full force going on over here on Prodigy, and in one of the _fantasy_ based clubs, no less. If Sionell will de-lurk for a day, she'll confirm this, since she's my partner in accomplishing this... crime? <G> We've been running off at the mouth for months about DT and Kevin, discussing lyrics <or just quoting really good verses> - we even have our own DT topic in the middle of the board, and we've already convinced several people to go out and buy _Images & Words_, I even got a request for Kev's demos from one of them. Only one person said it didn't do anything for him. ONE PERSON out of... five? <and there aren't many people on that board these days> I've converted a number of offline friends, too... what better cause in life could one find? <G>
"One step closer to the setting sun your skin's on fire again One step closer to the promised land your mind's a liar again SAIGON KICK
Jaime the Dragon
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 10:31:55 -0400 From: "Jonathan J.S. Tischio" <tischio@caip.rutgers.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 797 Message-ID: <199504281431.KAA15717@tchaikovsky.rutgers.edu>
To Hairball and anyone else listening-
When you mentioned the Beatles influence on Saigon Kick, one song came to mind "My Life". WHile the choruses are very full, the verses almost have a tinny quality. KInda kewl.
Another Note- In reference to the whole debate on the format of erotomania, I am asking one of the professors here where I work (Rutgers Univ.) to analyze the song. He doesn't normally listen to rock music, so I think this will give an objective viewpoint. Who knows, maybe he'll be converted to a 'jammer too.
Jonathan
-- Jonathan J.S. Tischio, Cook College Program Development Staff ECO Policy Center, Cook College, P.O. Box 700, New Brunswick, NJ, 08903-0700 Office: (908)932-9583 Fax: (908)932-9544 Home: (908)756-7061 E-mail: work: <tischio@caffeine.rutgers.edu> other: <tischio@tchaikovsky.rutgers.edu> <tischio@vger.rutgers.edu> URL: http://www-caip.rutgers.edu/~tischio
Sleep is great, but it's no substitute for caffeine.
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 11:22:28 -0500 (EST) From: Shawna Lea of the Many Nicknames <SADAMS1@WELLESLEY.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: How many posts do you read! Message-ID: <01HPVCNZ8NUQ8WWP04@WELLESLEY.EDU>
I get all of my ytse mailings separate rather than in digest format!!!
and I read at least the first 5 lines of each one.
Shawna Lea Adams Muireann MacOisdealblaigh drealla@spike.wellesley.edu sadams1@wellesley.edu
Love is an act of blood and I'm bleeding A pool in the shape of a heart. Beauty's projection in the reflection Always the worst way to start. -"Space-Dye Vest" Dream Theater _Awake_
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 10:39:53 -0400 From: "Jonathan J.S. Tischio" <tischio@caip.rutgers.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 797 Message-ID: <199504281439.KAA15725@tchaikovsky.rutgers.edu>
to Paul Bird
>6) Is there an specific Dream Theater newsgroup - my news server has >alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive, but nothing specific to Dream Theater.
there is a newsgroup alt.music.dream-theater
-- Jonathan J.S. Tischio, Cook College Program Development Staff ECO Policy Center, Cook College, P.O. Box 700, New Brunswick, NJ, 08903-0700 Office: (908)932-9583 Fax: (908)932-9544 Home: (908)756-7061 E-mail: work: <tischio@caffeine.rutgers.edu> other: <tischio@tchaikovsky.rutgers.edu> <tischio@vger.rutgers.edu> URL: http://www-caip.rutgers.edu/~tischio
Sleep is great, but it's no substitute for caffeine.
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 11:15:38 -0500 From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 798 Message-ID: <v01510100abc6be9a8946@[199.232.46.229]>
>I love this song!!!! Am I the only one. I know they played this at the >beginning of the _Awake_ tour, but soon after they dropped it from the >set. Why? I saw them at Hammerjacks in Baltimore, and they played it, I >seemed to be one of two people who new what the hell was going on. >Anybody have a copy of that show, or any show this tour which they played >TOWHTSTS? Thanks. > > 'Ryche and Roll, > > Andrew Miller
Just wanted ot say that you're not the only one who loves this tune. That and Light Fuse and Get Away are my two favorites from that album (and YtseJam of course and ...). The best time to listen to it is in your car at night in the rain ;). I haven't even seen DT live. I blew the last three years studying classical and didn't buy or really listen to any new rock in that time.
Marc Respass mer@sol.iii.net http://www.iii.net/users/mer.html
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 11:15:43 -0500 From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 798 Message-ID: <v01510101abc6c05af06e@[199.232.46.229]>
>Attn: Marc Repass <or whoever responded to my post!> > >That's basically my assessment as well. I really wish they _would_ have done >some development on the two thematic elements, but alas, no. I forgot about >the modulating to dominant. Thanks for setting me straight. > >I would really love to hear them do a piece w/ a true classical structure. >Like: "Petrucci's Symphony No. 1 in F#m Op. 5" That would be most impressive. >Of course, DT without James is like cocoa without marshmallows--it's still >just what you need, yet something's missing. Maybe he could just wail like a >banshee in the final movement. It worked for Beethoven. :P
Steven,
Don't feel bad about forgetting, I looked it up in my "Harvard Brief Dictionary of Music" :). I can't think of any instrumental "rock" that's written in a classical structure style. I'd be interested to hear it but I think it would be wierd. Besides, it's _19_95. Not too many contemporary composers write in that style except when they're learning to compose and even then things get a little away from strict classical period style. Without enough training and knowledge, it would be easy to fall into a theme and variation which wouldn't be too interesting (not implying anything about DT).
Petrucci wrote a Symphony!! And it's Opus FIVE? What else has he published? Who's recorded it? Where can I get it? BTW, the Opus indicates the work of a composer so this would be Petrucci's fifth composition. If more than one work is published at a time it gets numbers like Op.1 No. 2.
Marc Respass mer@sol.iii.net http://www.iii.net/users/mer.html
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 10:44:52 (CDT) From: Andrew J Feyder <afeyder@gac.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: BEER Message-ID: <199504281544.KAA18169@hermes.gac.edu>
Ahoy, jammers!
I'm doing a survey/research project for a class on rock fans and beer. If anyone here could e-mail me personally with your favorite kind of beer and why, and whatever else you might care to add on the subject of barley soda, I would greatly apprecitate it. Thank you for your time, and now back to your regularly scheduled DT digest! DO NOT POST RESPONSES TO THIS LIST!!! Send responses to: afeyder@gac.edu __________________________________________________________ | Andrew Joseph Feyder | "You know, life moves pretty | | Gustavus Adolphus College | fast. If you don't stop | | 800 West College Ave. | and look around, you could | | St. Peter MN 56082 | miss it" | | (507)-933-8715 | -Ferris Bueller. | |___________________________|______________________________| (O) - (O) / \ \_/ \_________/ \_______/
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 11:10:07 -0500 (CDT) From: kkish@selu.edu To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Queensryche Message-ID: <01HPVC99Z0RC95N717@vega.selu.edu>
Greets all, I figured I'd throw in some comments on where to start with Queensryche's albums. I have to agree that Mindcrime is the place to start. Mindcrimw is a brilliant album, IMHO one of the best albums to come out of the 80's. This is truly 'ryche at their finest. However i think that Empire is the most accessible of their music. Promised Land is cool (I for one wasn't disappointed by it) but it's very differnt from their past work, it has more of a Pink Floyd sound to it. If your into progressive i think that Rage For Order is Queensryche's most progresive to date. It's just plain weird at times. Their older stuff like Warning and the EP are cool but its best to start with them last as they have an "80's" sound to them. So basicaly Mindcrime or Empire are good starting places where 'ryche is concerned. And now for some DT content: what's the total running time for Sunconcious? I imagine it's got to be pretty long with ACOS on it. later all, Kevitch
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 12:35:47 -0400 (EDT) From: zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: falsetto<again> Message-ID: <199504281635.MAA27522@rpc30.gl.umbc.edu>
I'd really have to hear it to believe it to hear James sing falsetto. A while ago someone said that he was doing the end of The Killing Hand in falsetto, but he's not; that's all in his head voice. James has remarkable ability to "sing through the break" as voice teachers put it. I've been experimenting w/ my break points lately, and I've found that as long as you use enough air you can get the sound out in head, or even chest voice. A singer with as much training as James should be able to sing most every note in every register. You can hear the amount of air James is pushing at the end of that song. If indeed he was in falsetto there would be not only a timbral change in his voice, but it would be light and effortless, as such is the quality of the falsetto. I think a lot of listeners of rock music are used to listening to _Forced_tenor, like Geoff Tate, Jeff Scott Soto and other examples I can't even think of that would be better. :) They're singing all these "tenor" notes but these men are Baritones, and there is a quality that will come out in a baritone voice when it is pushed that gives it that full sound. When people don't hear this, they assume that the singer is in fasetto, and <pardon the pun> that is false. James is a real Tenor. When Charlie sings that part, he is not in falsetto either, but he's not using his air to capture the intensity of those lines. Now, Winter on the other hand; I'd have to hear it to believe that any man could sing that _without_ using falsetto.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <"...Thought disorder; ___ ___ ___ _ _ ___ ___ "Balls and chunk is > <Dream control. Now | __||_ _|| __|| V || __| |_ | where it's at." > <they read my mind on |__ | | | | __| \ / | __| / / --Mike Portnoy, LiT > <the radio...But where|___| |_| |___| V |___| |___|"I think SpontanUity!"> <was the Garden of Eden?" szebro1@gl.umbc.edu --John Petrucci, X103> <--John Petrucci, Voices Radio Show> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 10:54:01 MST From: mjmoore@uccs.edu To: YTSEJAM@anthor.arastar.com Message-ID: <0098F8DE.D5D3D6A0.176@uccs.edu>
My mailbox wsa being flooded with Ytsejam newsletters, so I unsubscribed. It worked for about 3 days, now I'm getting themn again. WHy?
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 17:54:04 PDT From: Vic Calzoni <vcalzoni@pine.shu.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Majesty Message-ID: <ECS9504281704A@pine.shu.ac.uk>
Hello Jammers, Could someone please enlighten me as to the quality of the Majesty demo CD. I saw it in my local music store in Canterbury, but I was a bit short of cash. The CD booklet was in bright pink and had about 8-10 tracks on it, I cant quite remember. It had a rather sad picture of the band with the singer before Charlie Dominici. (again the name escapes me) Anyhow, I wish I bought it now. No more complaining. I`d just like to mention that the DT cover gig at Ronnie Scotts was THE BEST. As to all you non UK jammers....you missed a GOOD TIME! ;-) Cheers
Vic Calzoni <vcalzoni@pine.shu.ac.uk>
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 11:11:14 -0700 From: Jason Giles <jgiles@crl.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: DT SHIRTS coming at ya! Message-ID: <199504281811.AA21645@crl.crl.com>
Hello everyone! I have recently received a lot of requests for shirts again, so I have decided to do another order. This time, however, you have the option of viewing before you buy! I now have a website and anonymous ftp so you can check them out before you decide to get one.
So here goes: The shirts are black 100% pre-shrunk cotton, with the Majesty logo on the front breast. Underneath it 'ytesejam the internet mailing digest' is written. On the back there is a large DREAM THEATER logo, with 'let the light surround' you written in greyish, glow in the dark ink.
The cost is $14 each, domestic shipping included. Foreign shipping is an additional $4 per item (except Australia, who add $6 per item). There is no increase for Canadian orders.
Sizes are S, M, L, XL, XXL (+$1.00), XXXL (+$1.50). My deadline for orders is May 15th. Please send your money, as I plan on ordering by that date, and having them by the end of May for shipment to all orderers. Send money to Jason Giles, 3200 Payne Ave. #525, San Jose, CA 95117. Checks or cash, or money orders are fine (the non-bouncing kind of check is the only kind I'll accept. ;-))
Please e-mail me your order, with (1) size, (2) quantity, (3) YOUR SHIPPING address, (4) your e-mail address and (5) how much your sending me. I will confirm your order via e-mail, at which time you should send out the money.
Orders or questions: e-mail me at JGILES@CRL.COM
WWW: http://www.crl.com/~jgiles/shirts.html FTP: ftp.crl.com, directory: /users/jg/jgiles, login: anon., passwd:e-mail add
files via anonymous ftp are GIFs or UUE files. Check em out! now back to your regularly scheduled program...
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 95 13:15:51 cdt From: "Steven Jacobsen" <jacobses@ditco.disa.mil> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: YTSECON Message-ID: <9503287991.AA799102189@ditco.disa.mil>
Hope I'm not asking a question that's been asked a million times already, but I'm new to the list so let this one slide. I saw a reference to convention of YTSEJammers and am interested in all the details. You know, where, when, etc. You can send the response to my personal account as opposed to the list so everyone won't have to see the same old info. By the way, anybody out there going to the Q'ryche concert Sunday at the Kiel in St. Louis. Will be sitting in the first section of seats to the left of the stage, four rows up. Stop by and we'll talk. Sorry I can't give my section and seat numbers but the tickets are at home and I'm at work. Steve jacobses@cc.ims.disa.mil
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 95 15:13:52 EDT From: Paul Tullo <pawly@eden.rutgers.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 798 Message-ID: <CMM-RU.1.4.799096432.pawly@er6.rutgers.edu>
Mike Bahr: A while ago you posted that you had a few extra copies of your Subconcious CD, and I was wondering if I could get a hold of one. Please mail me at pawly@eden.rutgers.edu or, post your info here on the 'jam. Thanks. :)
Also, there's something that's really bugging me. In the IAW tab book, I've noticed that James hits an F# in harmony. I don't have the book on me now, but I wanted to know if anyone can hear it. I've played the section for several people with good ears, and they can't hear it. I can faintly hear it. (I think.) Pawly pawly@eden.rutgers.edu
"The city's cold blood teaches us to survive" Metropolis, Part I
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 18:45:16 +0200 (MET DST) From: goebel@inf.fu-berlin.de (Ties Goebel) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Rock over Germany, Rock Hard magazine Message-ID: <m0s4tAL-0002tAC@inf.fu-berlin.de>
Hi 'jammers,
1. Rock over Germany: DT is coming back to Germany in June to 4 "Rock over Germany" festivals, so far, so good. It's a great chance for them to play for such a huge audience (three stadiums, one airport), but can you imagine DT opening for Elton John, Rod Stewart, Joe Cocker, Eros Ramazzotti, Sheryl Crow ???
2. (German) Rock Hard magazine: In the latest issue there are parts of a diary of DT's european tour, written by Mike Portnoy! Cool! Interesting insights into what the guys do on tour... (especially Mike, the "party animal": Jagermeister every night...). I don't have it with me right now, but if some of you are interested, I can tell you more, translate some parts... Oh, and the whole thing is gonna be in the next issue of "Dream Head", the German DT fanzine!
Ties
-- ******************************************** ** Ties Goebel ** goebel@inf.fu-berlin.de ** ** http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~goebel ** ** Freie Universitaet Berlin ** ********************************************
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