YTSEJAM Digest 800
Today's Topics:
1) Ayn Rand/A Dash of DT
by Christopher Caminiti <ccamin1@zeus.towson.edu>
2) Re: Scarred
by A Humble Dream Theater Fanatic <polzin@glibm11.cen.uiuc.edu>
3) Re: catching up
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
4) WAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!
by zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
5) Queensryche/ect...
by Boo-ba Fett <jmh@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
6) More WDADU analysis...
by "DAVE \"The New #2\" PETERSON" <GLYDE@VAX1.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
7) DT Paraphanalia...
by "DAVE \"The New #2\" PETERSON" <GLYDE@VAX1.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 797
by A Humble Dream Theater Fanatic <polzin@glibm11.cen.uiuc.edu>
9) Re: Ayn Rand/A Dash of DT
by Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
10) IF ending in Europe
by mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu (Michael Burstin)
11) Re: A Dash of DT
by jbako01 <jbako01@barney.poly.edu>
12) CSS.NET page... DEAD...
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
13) YTSEJAM digest 799
by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
14) Mission:Impossible CD!
by ALVAREZ1@AppleLink.Apple.COM (Alvarez, Paul)
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 798
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
16) Dub Site Closings
by AirDance@aol.com
17) kevin rules
by Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 795
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
19) Re: two items (1/2 DT content)
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
20) Attn: Marc Respass!
by zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
21) Re: WAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!
by William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
22) New video?
by "GENE (IT'S GOOD TO BE THE KING) SZUCS" <SZUCSEUE@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu>
23) ACOS LYRICS NOW!!!!!!!!
by SPUDS <bunkerg@rintintin.Colorado.EDU>
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 15:28:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Caminiti <ccamin1@zeus.towson.edu>
To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Ayn Rand/A Dash of DT
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950428151410.9466A-100000@zeus.towson.edu>
Hey there jammers -
Just one comment about the Ayn Rand discussion -
I thought the book "Anthem" was the inspiration for the SONG "Anthem".
Maybe I'm wrong. . . I'm still a rookie with Ms. Rand's books
(Fountainhead, Atlas, Anthem, We the Living). She's definitely a highly
intelligent writer/thinker nonetheless. I guess that's it. Thanks.
P.S. Anybody read Richard Bach??
P.P.S. (Here's the DT snippet) During the B-section of the video for
"Lie" (I had gotten used to being. . . ), what tunnel are they in? Did
they cause some huge traffic jam filming it??? Just wondering.
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 14:39:37 -0500 (CDT)
From: A Humble Dream Theater Fanatic <polzin@glibm11.cen.uiuc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: Scarred
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.90.950428143930.13190A-100000@glibm11.cen.uiuc.edu>
That could also be true.
On Thu, 27 Apr 1995, Michael Burstin wrote:
> > From: A Humble Dream Theater Fanatic <polzin@glibm11.cen.uiuc.edu>
> > Subject: Re: Scarred
> >
> > Actually, i think i might know why. Maybe it is to get people to go to
> > the concerts this time around. If they would have played it last time,
> > they might lose people who would go to the concert again to hear
> > different songs. Lets say this: If it wasnt Dream Theater then would
> > you go to the same exact concert twice if you knew that they were going
> > to play the exact same set? Not everyone is as big of fans as us on the
> > list. What does everyone think? Is it an advertisement or what?
> >
>
> Actuallt, I believe that the reason that they gave is that Derik didnt
> have enough time to learn it... Which makes sense... it is a
> keyboard heavy song...
>
> --
> +----------------------------------------+----------------+---------+
> | And I'll smile and learn to pretend | Dream Theater | Michael |
> | And I'll never be open again | Space Dye Vest | Burstin |
> | And I'll have no more dreams to defend |-----Awake------+---------+
> | And I'll never be open again | Let's Go Pens |
> +----------------------------------------+--------------------------+
> For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
> http://cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html
>
>
Ed Polzin
WWW: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~polzin/
polzin@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu
polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu
polzin@par0060.urh.uiuc.edu
polzin@ripco.com
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 13:00:25 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: catching up
Message-ID: <199504282000.NAA03407@bud.indirect.com>
> #2: Is SUBCONSCIOUS that hard to spell? English is not my mother-tongue,
> or my mother's tongue (Spinal Tap-reference: see if anyone got that :-))
> but I don't have a problem with that name, though my English sux from
> time to time! BTW, I'm eagerly awaiting my copy, how many have you done
> yet Mike? And yes, a VERY big thank you to Mike for doing this. And
> what's next? 'When Dream And LaBrie Unite'? I guess if that happens, that
> will happen sometime in the fall, am I right?
Here's the schedule of upcoming releases...
June-ish: Rush/Cygnus (from the best sounding Rush show in existence, the
Tucson soundboard of 1978... Cygnus saga included)
September or October (when the freshmen wash in) DT/WDAJU
Jan '96: DT, unknown
Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 16:12:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: WAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!
Message-ID: <199504282013.QAA17083@rpc02.gl.umbc.edu>
I don't believe it! I just got back from my voice lesson where my teacher had
me hit a _High_A_ in chest voice!!! She moved me away so that I couldn't see
the piano keys or the hammers so that I wouldn't know how high I actually was.
I have a tendency to look at the keys and panic if I get anywhere near an E.
This may not be impressive to other tenors, but when you're a bass baritone
like me, well, it's something special!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<"...Thought disorder; ___ ___ ___ _ _ ___ ___ "Balls and chunk is >
<Dream control. Now | __||_ _|| __|| V || __| |_ | where it's at." >
<they read my mind on |__ | | | | __| \ / | __| / / --Mike Portnoy, LiT >
<the radio...But where|___| |_| |___| V |___| |___|"I think SpontanUity!">
<was the Garden of Eden?" szebro1@gl.umbc.edu --John Petrucci, X103>
<--John Petrucci, Voices Radio Show>
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
PS: dt dt dt dt dt...<dt content ;) >
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 14:02:30 -0700 (MST)
From: Boo-ba Fett <jmh@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
To: ytsejam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Queensryche/ect...
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.90.950428131219.24830F-100000@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
hey...
On what albums to get into Queensryche with, I think that _Operation:
Mindcrime_ is an awesome choice, just because it is such a strong album.
One of the greatest by anyone ever. For me, however, it took _Empire_.
_Empire_ was more like the other stuff i was into at the time, it is more
pop-ish, but it still is incredible. Early Queensryche is probably
easiest to get into in backwards chronological order, unless you have
never heard anything at all by them. I am not that familiar with the
first 2, but they are definatly good. Queensryche progr... [maybe i
should use a different word than that :)] changes so much album to album
that if you are used to something like _Empire_, even _Rage for Order_
(the one before O:M) will sound weird.
Others probably can_help/have_helped you out better than i could so i
will go on with my regularly scheduled topic
My roommate is a big Tori Amos fan, and I let him hear DT do _Winter_.
he asked if DT hated Tori. I just thought that that was funny. I also let
a real big Beatles fan hear DT's cover of _Golden Slumbers/Carry That
Weight/The End_, he said that it was in the area of tribute/straight
regurgitation. He did say that he like what DT did with the guitars
though. Both covers, BTW are on mike's _Subconsious_... (AZ rules!)
This kinda made me think about covers. As did the newest Led Zeppelin
tribute album, whatever it is called (it is even harder to spell than
subconshous! :), and seeing _Are You Expierinced?_ by Devo last night.
Straight covers, while many are good, arent really all that exciting.
Yeah, I love DT's covers I have heard, but the ones that I have heard
havnt been all that... well, risky. Devo's Hendrix cover mentioned above
definatly can be considered risky. They (almost?) make it a Devo song.
Granted, that may not be good unless you like Devo, but otherwise the
point seems to be lacking a little. I would think that adapting a song
more to your style would be more of a tribute, and more fun, but I have
never been in a band so I really dont know. My favorite album is _88_,
a live album by the Seventy Sevens. On it, they cover _Over Under Sideways
Down_ by the Yardbirds (pretty straight, I think), but the best part of
the album is when they do their own songs in new ways. The last three
songs total 35 minutes [to most people that would seem really long :)]
while the studio versions total about 15. They have just cool blues jams
and, in one song, they have a drum solo, a cover of _Baby Please Don't
Go_ (Them) and a song I dont know the name of by Rick Nelson (I think).
Just the changing/redoing of their old stuff is awesome. Before you get
too excited, Bill Bruford was never in the 77s :) They are a
bluesy-alternative/ex-pop/Christian band, and not Progressive. They are,
however, my favs. (DT is #2 in case anyone is counting).
SO basically, my quesion is this, What do you like in covers? [meaning
song covers :)] Do you like the more straight-ahead tribute like covers,
or more daring stuff?
My "ect..." is has become a bit too long, so yeah, I read all of the
Ytsejams, except sometimes for the most technical stuff [ie Hairball and
others :)] skimming may be a bit more accurate 'cause i just get lost.
Oh well, it still is cool to have it... I too can pretend I know
Something! :) Bye... (on the same line to save space)
Boo-ba Fett - aka John Haveman
----------------------------------------------------------
I heard that he tracked down Han Solo!
I heard that he escaped from the Sarlac Pit!
I heard that he's the greatest bounty hunter ever!
Yeah, well I heard that he's a Giant Chicken!
He's a Chicken I tell ya, a Giant Chicken!
- from the unwritten Animaniacs short "Boo-nty Hunter"
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 17:12:30 -0600 (CST)
From: "DAVE \"The New #2\" PETERSON" <GLYDE@VAX1.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
To: Ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: More WDADU analysis...
Message-ID: <01HPVNW9LSHE00DP74@VAX1.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
I've been doing some more thinking again on some WDADU stuff...
Specifically, it's about "The Killing Hand" and "The Ones Who Help To Set The
Sun". Contrary to a thread that's going around now, "TOWHTSTS", IMO it's the
weakest track on the album. I've got two main gripes about it.
First, in Dominici's performance on TKH, he sings the words, "What I have
lear-rrrrned" Now, I'm no vocalist, but from what I've overheard in my life,
isn't it somewhat common knowledge to NOT sing out the "rrrrrrr" sound. Rather,
he should hold out the "eeeee" vowel sound. That way, he's not holding back his
sound by contorting it into a "rrrrr" sound. When holding a note, isn't it
better to choose a vowel rather than a consonent? (Of course there are
exceptions to everything, but doesn't this hold true in this case?) To see what
I mean, listen to 7:04 of The Killing Hand. It's just not strong enough,
Chuck... (The falsetto shortly after doesn't do anything for me either...)
Next, I've got a gripe against the guitar and keys on TOWHTSTS. During the
actual singing of the words, "The... Ones who help to set the sun" (at 5:26 on
the track and more thereafter...) I can see DT trying to accomplish a nice, full
chord progression. Now again, I'm not into tremendous accuracy in my
statements here, but it seems that it's just Charlie who's doing this
progression. Kev. and Petrucci just sit there and do some kind of weak
background stuff. IMO, Charlie just isn't convincing in it. I think it would
help if maybe Kev and Petrucci would help him along with it and provide
something a little more substantial behind Chuck, causing the audience to
think, "Wow! Cool chord progression" rather than "What the hell was Chucky D.
thinking when he sang THAT?"
Bitch bitch bitch. Sorry if this DT content isn't "praise" content. They're
not perfect ya know! (Though the IaW and Awake version of DT could have a
strong case!!!)
Did I mention that DT rules???
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| /_/___/ //_/___ / / /_/___/ / /_/____ this world has to offer is a |
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 17:30:55 -0600 (CST)
From: "DAVE \"The New #2\" PETERSON" <GLYDE@VAX1.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
To: Ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT Paraphanalia...
Message-ID: <01HPVPHH4J3600DP74@VAX1.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
Ya know... I've checked the Web page(s), I've checked the jam... How do I get
my grubby mits on a DT hat or shirt? There MUST be some sort of mail-order out
there, right? (Am I missing it on the Web pages? I might've missed it...)
Anyway, post to the jam or e-mail me. Whatever. Thanks in advance!
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| ______ "Hmmmmmmm..." ____ ______ - David Peterson - |
| /\_____\ /\ \ /\ /\___\ /\_____\ Glyde@Vax1.Mankato.msus.edu |
| / /___ / / \/ / / / /\ /_/__ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=|
| / /\__/\ / / / / / / / / /\____\ "The most beautiful thing that |
| /_/___/ //_/___ / / /_/___/ / /_/____ this world has to offer is a |
| \_____\/ \_____\ \/ \_____\/ \______\ woman's smiling face" - Me |
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 19:30:04 -0500 (CDT)
From: A Humble Dream Theater Fanatic <polzin@glibm11.cen.uiuc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 797
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.90.950428192743.17180A-100000@glibm11.cen.uiuc.edu>
> Traffic is small and there are posts every once in a while from some dumb
> shits with subject lines like Dream Theater sucks!!! etc... (Please gods,
I've also noticed that one the web page that someone (i forgot
who) said to check out and vote for dream theater that there was only
two numbers voted for. Either someone rated the album a 1 (worst) or a
10 (best). So go and vote for dream theater and give them a 10 for
images and words. I forgot the page so could whoever posted it before
post it again. thanks.
Ed Polzin
WWW: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~polzin/
polzin@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu
polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu
polzin@par0060.urh.uiuc.edu
polzin@ripco.com
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 23:05:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: Ayn Rand/A Dash of DT
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950428225739.3333A-100000@oak.liii.com>
On Fri, 28 Apr 1995, Christopher Caminiti wrote:
>
> I thought the book "Anthem" was the inspiration for the SONG "Anthem".
> Maybe I'm wrong. . . I'm still a rookie with Ms. Rand's books
> (Fountainhead, Atlas, Anthem, We the Living). She's definitely a highly
> intelligent writer/thinker nonetheless. I guess that's it. Thanks.
I'm not familiar with the song Anthem, but the book is similar to the
2112 story. In ANTHEM, the character discovered his long lost
singularity, and in 2112 he discovers a guitar. Both stories tell of the
leaders' control of the collective.
>
> P.S. Anybody read Richard Bach??
I have. I think he's silly. He takes the *one* idea of his stories way
too far.
> P.P.S. (Here's the DT snippet) During the B-section of the video for
> "Lie" (I had gotten used to being. . . ), what tunnel are they in? Did
> they cause some huge traffic jam filming it??? Just wondering.
I'm pretty sure it was filmed in Manhattan and that the tunnel goes under
some hotel in midtown.
Andy
akeegan@liii.com
==============================================================
"Live fast, "There's only one way
Be a spark and glow awhile of life,
You'll be dead a long, long time" And that's your own"
-B. Geldof - Levellers
==============================================================
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 23:44:14 -0400
From: mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu (Michael Burstin)
To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>, ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: IF ending in Europe
Message-ID: <199504290344.XAA19885@cs.brandeis.edu>
I was just watching a video that I got today in the mail from Alfred
Cappello and I discoverd that they used the ending that everybody loves from
IF as the ending to 6:00... I didn't remember anyone else mentioning
this... did they do this in all of Europe, or was that night a different night?
I also didn't remember reading that John P did accoustical solos... which
just came on right now... sounds pretty interesting...
The video quality isn't too bad... but I think that it did lose something
in x-fering it over to NTSC from PAL... but still is worth it... The audio
isn't bad, after PMU & 6:00 (there is something causing my speakers to sound
like theyt are vibrating... but it seems to have gone away around TTT...
A few other things that I noticed is that the Palasesto seems to be HUGE...
well... compared to the places htat I saw them play here... For those of
you in Italy, how big is the Palasesto? THis also allowed them to have a
MUCH bigger light set than for the shows that I saw... the lights looked
alot more impressive than when I saw them...
It also looked like Mike was up to his usual antics, including stopping in
the middle of his drum solo to stand up and take a picture of the crowd... :)
Finally, in reply to Drkhoe's question... I read about everything, except
some of the highly off topic stuff (flames included there)... and some of
the topics that keep on re-occuring...
--
+----------------------------------------+----------------+---------+
| And I'll smile and learn to pretend | Dream Theater | Michael |
| And I'll never be open again | Space Dye Vest | Burstin |
| And I'll have no more dreams to defend |-----Awake------+---------+
| And I'll never be open again | Let's Go Pens |
+----------------------------------------+--------------------------+
For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
http://cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html
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Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 00:04:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: jbako01 <jbako01@barney.poly.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: A Dash of DT
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950429000222.10669B-100000@barney>
On Fri, 28 Apr 1995, Christopher Caminiti wrote:
> P.P.S. (Here's the DT snippet) During the B-section of the video for
> "Lie" (I had gotten used to being. . . ), what tunnel are they in? Did
> they cause some huge traffic jam filming it??? Just wondering.
Looks to me like the tunnel that runs under Park Ave. in Manhattan, from
31st Street to Grand Central. Sorta like an express route to the Station
(albeit a short one).
Actually I just drove through it on my way home tonight.
James Bako
jbako01@barney.poly.edu
Polytechnic University
Brooklyn, New York
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Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 00:56:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam SERVER)
Subject: CSS.NET page... DEAD...
Message-ID: <199504290456.AAA04807@opal.cs.brandeis.edu>
I just was looking over the CSS.NET DT page... and it is sorta
dead... they replaced it w/ something... I don't even know what kind
of music it is... but it isn't DT... and they kept the exact link
that used to goto DT... and made it goto whatever the new stuff is...
so if you have a link on your page... consider removing it...
--
+----------------------------------------+----------------+---------+
| And I'll smile and learn to pretend | Dream Theater | Michael |
| And I'll never be open again | Space Dye Vest | Burstin |
| And I'll have no more dreams to defend |-----Awake------+---------+
| And I'll never be open again | Let's Go Pens |
+----------------------------------------+--------------------------+
For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
http://cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html
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Date: Sat, 29 Apr 95 01:45:21 EST
From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 799
Message-ID: <9504290145.D3622pi@clubmet.metrobbs.com>
Shawna- I have to agree with you on the Ronnie James Dio message.
Although...growing up being a very very big fan of Dio, I do not listen
to him much anymore. The "live" Dio tape is great when he sings "Man on
a Silver Mountain" WoW. I actually saw and met Ronnie James Dio about 6
months ago here in Kansas City. Being that close to a stage with
Dio...I do have to wonder(after looking in his eyes), is the man
possessed? It was a great rocking show at a pretty small club here in
KC.
DT convention? WHen and WHere? Is there a place/date?
Mike B. I would like to have a copy reserved of "Sub". **
--by the way...how many copies will finally be in print? Just curious.
TELNET:198.69.223.40
TELNET: methub.metrobbs.com
if you TELNET..then
write (me) Dream Theater
e-mail. See ya there
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Date: 29 Apr 95 08:27 GMT
From: ALVAREZ1@AppleLink.Apple.COM (Alvarez, Paul)
To: YTSEJAM@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Mission:Impossible CD!
Message-ID: <799144424.8395672@AppleLink.Apple.COM>
Found: "Mission: Impossible", the live 2 CD set recorded in Japan in August of
'93. Set list:
Metropolis
Mission: Impossible
Afterlife
Under A Glass Moon
Wait For Sleep
Surrounded
Ytse Jam (including drum solo)
Puppies On Acid
Take The Time
To Live Forever
Improvised Jam (Guitar Solo)
A Fortune In Lies
Another Day
Pull Me Under
Eve
Learning To Live
There is a CD shop in the Akihabara district in Tokyo where all the latest
consumer hardware is sold that had this and a few other boots. They have one
floor out of 5 that specializes in collector type CD's. Other boots from
various bands were on the shelf (multiple copies). With the current exchange
rate in Japan, they are expensive (the DT disc was 5300 yen @ 83 yen to the
dollar, so about $64. Ouch!).
Haven't heard it yet but will post a review once I get back to he States next
week. BTW, I found Lords of Sound during my last trip to Singapore! There is
some redeeming value from having to travel a lot!
Regards,
Paul (one of the oldest jammers on the list!)
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Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 02:13:59 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 798
Message-ID: <199504290914.CAA23665@bud.indirect.com>
> A while ago you posted that you had a few extra copies of your
> Subconcious CD, and I was wondering if I could get a hold of one. Please
> mail me at pawly@eden.rutgers.edu or, post your info here on the 'jam.
> Thanks. :)
There are indeed some copies of subconscious left.
Quick notes:
1. New list to be posted Monday
2. Had an order for 20 of them cancelled (from Cali) so thats why I have
a bunch left even still. This is not counting the earlier extras I had.
So there's still 20 _more_ left, even still.
3. Olov Ringman, please get in touch with me, your mail was mysteriously
lost in the vacuum of space, though I had already recorded your CD
numbers and packed them for shipment, now I need your address.
4. Kaoru Kobayashi, or someone who can speak to her, please mail me, I
need to know if she's sending the Japan order. I have 40 CDs set aside
for it. If she needs more, I can probably do it, if less, thats fine.
Remember, all Japanese jammers, she was doing a group order for everyone.
5. International orders are taking a BIT longer than USA orders for
shipment, I'm sorry for this, the reason being that I can mail within the
USA every day of the week at the nearby postal station, but I have to
drive 16 miles to the post office that takes international mail, thus I
only get a chance to go twice a week. So it may take just a *little*
longer on average.
Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com
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Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 05:53:09 -0400
From: AirDance@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Dub Site Closings
Message-ID: <950429055308_100513379@aol.com>
Hey there folks,
A couple of the Kevin Moore demo dub sites have closed and changed their
addresses, so I thought I should let you all know.
Now CLOSED are:
-Massachusetts: panther@mit.edu
-Maryland: sdobay@wam.umd.edu
ADDRESS CHANGES:
-North Carolina: godsize@aol.com is now "jbashcra@uncc.edu"
-(Canada) Saskatchewan: pjhollow@microcity.com is now
"pjhollow@novice.uwaterloo.ca"
That's it! Any questions or comments, e-mail me! :)
Jennifer
<airdance@aol.com>
(and yes, Andrew Dietr Miller <ytsejam@strauss.udel.edu>, this has been yet
another post from ME, hope you enjoyed it! :)
Q: "If you could play for anyone in the history of the universe, made-up or
real, what would you play, for whom, and what shoes would you wear?"
A: "Lucifer. Penny Lane. Flipflops."
-Tori Amos, Q&A at UCLA 2-27-95
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Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 06:56:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: kevin rules
Message-ID: <cjcVh5K00iWP417oQi@andrew.cmu.edu>
Has anyone heard anything about Kevin lately? Specifically I'm wondering
if he's found a label yet. I was listening to his demos earlier (with
headphones i think for the first time) and was just thinking how much I
love the stuff but I'm afraid of wearing down the tape so I don't listen
to it nearly as often as I'd like to. These songs really deserve to be
on a CD.
Some things I was noticing while listening that I haven't seen anyone
comment on yet: Anyone else notice how on "Even the Waves" the pianos
shift back and forth from the left ear to the right, giving a
rock-the-boat feeling? I love that. He does it on other dongs too, but
it's more noticeable and effective on that song. Also, Kevin's always
been the master of the pitch bend in my opinion, and on this tape he
uses it very subtly but no less effectively. The soft bending piano
melodies in Even the Waves, the post chorus synth leads on Normal Words,
the quiet, wavering strings that make for a discordant sort of contrast
to the bland prettiness of Nora, and of course the classic Kev organ
solo at the end of Song for Eric...damn, I love this tape. I could also
hear the samples a lot better through headphones, and they really added
something to the songs. Especially on Song for Eric. The original is
brilliant, but Kevin adds so much to it, and the samples turn it into a
cool little story that makes me long for a roadtrip of some kind...sigh.
Finally, "industrial dance?" Uh, try again. Most of this stuff sounds
like Tori more than anything else. I'm having a hard time picturing
people dancing to it...
-max
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Anton Max | "Then, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill!"
Keyboards, Aepithex | -William Shakespeare,
MadMax+@CMU.EDU | _King Lear_
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Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 10:50:34 -0500 (CDT)
From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 795
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9504291000.A19953-0100000@galaxy.galstar.com>
On Tue, 25 Apr 1995, Marc Respass wrote:
> >On 791: With Fripp, Belew, Levin and Bruford, is it possible for King
> >Crimson to make a BAD album? Of course if its too good, it'll probably
> >scare (simple-mided) people away; but isn't true of almost all Progressive
> >music?
>
> OK. So recommend ONE King Crimson album for me to buy. I love Yes and Rush.
> I have one Bruford album that's really good and what I've heard of Levin I
> liked. I'm just afraid that I won't be into it so I want the best
> recommedation :). Thanks
I'd say definetly go for either _Red_ or in the _In the Court of the
Crimson King_, which are two of their heavier albums. Or try their new
one Thrak, which I don't have YET, but have heard it's great!
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Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 11:08:53 -0500 (CDT)
From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: two items (1/2 DT content)
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9504291129.B19953-0100000@galaxy.galstar.com>
On Wed, 26 Apr 1995, Michael Bahr wrote:
> > shouting :) ). as an addendum, IMHO DT should get a little more loose in
> > general when they play their stuff live... it's a great experience to hear
> > their studio material reproduced almost flawlessly, but owing to their great
> > musicianship i know they are capable of some great extended group jams.
>
> We've gotta be careful with this. Led Zeppelin always improvised,
> and they went beyond the level of "cool, what a twist!" to being just
> plain ridiculous in a lot of their musings... I'm as good a Zep fan as
> the next guy, but some of the solos and such on their boots are just a
> waste of tape.
But King Crimson also improvised ALL the time live and usuaully my
comments are... "SHIT... they IMRPOVED that???"
take "Daniel Dust" off The Great Deciever boxed set... perhaps one of the
most beautiful violin solos ever. and it's improvised.
and even their worse improvs are great! if you don't have their GD boxed
set and you like KC, get it right now because I've heard that they
stopped production on it.
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Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 13:12:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Attn: Marc Respass!
Message-ID: <199504291712.NAA04137@umbc8.umbc.edu>
WOAH! WOAH! Slow down! I was only kidding about that Petrucci symphony
thing, I'm sorry! I think I said, "...it would be cool if there was a DT
symphony, like Petrucci Sym. #1 in Gm Op. 5..." ^^
I didn't mean to get your hopes up, there. But, if JP is watching, maybe
he'll see your hopeful query as a cry for help and oblige us. :)
Sorry to get your hope up like that!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<"...Thought disorder; ___ ___ ___ _ _ ___ ___ "Balls and chunk is >
<Dream control. Now | __||_ _|| __|| V || __| |_ | where it's at." >
<they read my mind on |__ | | | | __| \ / | __| / / --Mike Portnoy, LiT >
<the radio...But where|___| |_| |___| V |___| |___|"I think SpontanUity!">
<was the Garden of Eden?" szebro1@gl.umbc.edu --John Petrucci, X103>
<--John Petrucci, Voices Radio Show>
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Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 13:42:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: WAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!
Message-ID: <ojcbdxy00YUz8OKlQf@andrew.cmu.edu>
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damn you all. you make me wish i could sing
if you want to know ------william bajzek------ and if you want to know
just what i see -http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu-- where we're going
look at yourself -----------/~wb2a/home------------ keep your distance
and dont ask me ---------guitars, aepithex--------- and dont follow me
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Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 13:48:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: "GENE (IT'S GOOD TO BE THE KING) SZUCS" <SZUCSEUE@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: New video?
Message-ID: <01HPWW0L0PTE000GGC@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu>
Hey, I know this post is pretty out of date, but then again so am I in
reading my mail. I see all these posts about an AWAKE pay-per-view video, can
someone please mail me and tell me how I can pick one up? Thanks,
-gene
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Eugene E. Szucs | "If You Pick Up The Beat | "Animation Breathes A | :::::::::
UniVersity of | You Can Forget About | Cloudless Mind, |
Dayton********* | The Heat" | Fascination leaves |
*************** | @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ | The Doubting Blind" |
szucseue@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu| -Rush | -Dream Theater |
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Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 14:45:05 -0600 (MDT)
From: SPUDS <bunkerg@rintintin.Colorado.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: ACOS LYRICS NOW!!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950429143237.18824A-100000@rintintin.Colorado.EDU>
Hey guys and gals!!!
I posted awhile ago about getting the lyrics to ACOS. This is
SERIOUS!!! I NEED THE LYRICS BEFORE I EAT MY CAT!
I've noticed that Matt Rydstrom (I hope I spelled that right) has
a quote from ACOS is his sig line, so I KNOW there out there!!
If somebody's got them on a home page some where, let me know
where and I'll get'em myself.
Mike Bahr... I haven't been able to even THINK about listening
to anything else besides the SUB CD. Man, I'm glad I finished my design
project before I got it!! In the past week I've listened to ACOS about
45 times (and at 19:11 a listen, I haven't been doing much else).
One question, what in the FUCK is going on in the Wanted song.
And who is singing, and who are the "chipmunks"? It sounds like one of
them had to be Portney!! CAn you tell us about it?
I saw one other guy ask about When Dream and James Unite. I know
that that's probably the furthest thing from your mind, but do you think
that you'll get to it by the end of this year? Not to rush you or
anything like that!!!
One more thing. I'm so glad that somebody else likes Light FUse
and Get Away! It got flamed on the Dream Theater Survey and I was
wondering if anyone else out there liked it. I have to agree with the
guy who said that LFAGA and TOWHTSTS are the best songs on WDADU. Killer
intros on both!!
Take it easy kids!!
I only have 13 more days before I'm forced to join the other AOL'ers!
Greg Bunker
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