YTSEJAM Digest 909
Today's Topics:
1) When Dream and WHAT? Unite
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
2) DT Tour dates
by Todd Aubrey Dakin <tdakin@is.dal.ca>
3) Mike's drumming
by JennieBear@aol.com
4) Polyrhythm
by zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
5) Morse Code (TTT)
by mjnewb@ix.netcom.com (Monty Newberry )
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 908
by "Jeroen Verbunt" <verbuntj@prl.philips.nl>
7) No More Transcriptions!
by Aviad Shkolnikov <shkola@mail.snunit.k12.il>
8) Moshing
by "Ken H ili" <KEN@benoni.nbr.no>
9) Release date for ACOS
by goebel@inf.fu-berlin.de (Ties Goebel)
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 908
by Michael Van Opstall <mavanop@grfn.ORG>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 908
by omman@solar.sky.net
12) Re: Trivia...
by schew@TIS.COM
13) The Mirror
by Gpills@aol.com
14) More trivia
by david@pharlap.CI.COM (David B. Kuznick)
15) K.A.O.S.
by BOB HOLDER <BH7314@LUNDY.NIAGARAC.ON.CA>
16) CPI-epilogue
by Potestatem@aol.com
17) Kansas
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
18) Polyrhythms and syncopations
by mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
19) Poly Rythmn defined
by WarrenDW@aol.com
20) Re: K.A.O.S.
by Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
21) ACoS Release Date
by "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org>
22) Bootlists?
by "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org>
23) Echolyn (ytsejam post) (fwd)
by nguyen john t <jtnguyen@cs.twsu.edu>
24) Fellow jammers at Ryche and the final night of the tour!
by BOB HOLDER <BH7314@LUNDY.NIAGARAC.ON.CA>
25) Speaking of great drummers...
by mpatrick@netusa1.net (Mike Patrick)
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Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 23:11:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: When Dream and WHAT? Unite
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950731230214.7989A-100000@breakout.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Sorry, Mike, just sorta got used to the old title......
A late chime-in on the short-lived "What Iron Maiden tune would be best
done by DT" thread---I would agree on Infinite Dreams, but only if
Charlie Dominici returned to handle the vocals....he'd handle the
syncopated lyric delivery better
I've said it before, and as MR. Buckley (40+ shows deserves a MR :)
pointed out Only a Matter of Time might not go as well in James' vocal
style--I'd say same goes for Infinite Dreams
Also, on the matter of Subcon, I'm with Aviad--I'd love to get a dubbed
copy, if anybody out there would be so kind, e-mail me at ahtrap@umich.edu
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 00:52:49 -0300 (ADT)
From: Todd Aubrey Dakin <tdakin@is.dal.ca>
To: Dream Theater Digest <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: DT Tour dates
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9508010048.B49806-0100000@is.dal.ca>
Hey Jammers,
Does anyone know when Dream Theater will be playing up here in
Canada? If so, what are the the closest places to Nova Scotia? I
presume they would never consider playing here in Halifax (hell we
haven't had a descent concert here since Aerosmith 2 years ago and the
Tragically Hip last winter...I AM STARVED FOR ENTERTAINMENT!...musically
that is). Anyhow, if anyone knows of any Canadian tour dates could they
please post them (or send them directly to me if you prefer). Thanks.
Todd Dakin
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 00:23:45 -0400
From: JennieBear@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Mike's drumming
Message-ID: <950801002343_127551679@aol.com>
The following appeared in Ytsejam #906:
>Let me preface this by saying that I love MP's drumming, but from what I
have
heard of his solos, I think Mike really lacks in this area. Now, the solos I
have heard are not to recent. The latest is from like '93 or so. But I
don't think Mike is really a good soloist.<
[...]
>Now some people might like this, but as most drummers would agree, that is
not what a solo really should be(although it is a helluva lot better than
some guy behind a drumset spinning through the air). Maybe Mike has
developed as a soloist since then and if he has I hope someone will correct
me, but if not, then I am not really looking
forward to hearing anymore of his solos till he does.<
My hubby Keith drums, and, as far as he's concerned, Mike (well, tied with
Mark Zonder) is simply the best drummer in his eyes (yes, Neil Peart was
previously his drum god, but Neil was de-throned by LtL and "Metropolis"
<g>), but solos are something else entirely. Keith is quite the critical
listener when it comes to fellow drummers, believe me! :)
Coming from directly from Keith: What is a drum soloist? He says that he's
heard many drum solos, but the best drumming comes from composed pieces. He
said, to him, the "sole purpose of a drum solo is to give the drummer an
erection." <g>
He added that what he likes best about Mike is that he's "really out there"
in his playing yet he always ends up right where he should be, timewise.
Jen
-- "Could we see clearer in a virtual reality?" - Magellan "I am the beat of your pulse/the computer word made flesh" - Queensrychejenniebear@aol.com kethry@netcom.com
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 00:37:01 -0400 (EDT) From: zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Polyrhythm Message-ID: <199508010437.AAA25007@umbc9.umbc.edu>
Isn't the simplest way of defining polyrhythm the superimposition of two contrasting meters <namely: duple and triple>? Someone posted the duple/triple thing in the last ytsejam and I just sat upright in my chair and said, "Yes!"
I think the vast majority of people are confusing syncopation and mixed meters with polyrhythm. The beginning of TTT could be called polyrhythmic, because the guitar and drums are constantly shifting from 4/4 to 5/4 to 6/4 to 3/4 while the bass plays in 4/4. <Well, it's not transcribed as 4/4, but it is still played in a 4/4 groove or feel.> The Mirror, on the other hand, is not polyrhythmic. This is evident in the unison parts in the instuments, and the fact that all the instrumental parts easily conform to the meter signatures chosen. The transcription in the tab book is ok, but I wouldn't have used 9/16 time in that instance.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ___ ___ ___ _ _ ___ ___ "...all that I feel is honor and spite. | __| |_ _| | __| | V | | __| |_ | ...all I can do is to set it right." |__ | | | | __| \ / | __| / / Kevin Moore, PMU |___| |_| |___| V |___| |___|"Of all the stupid things I could have Steve Zebrowski szebro1@gl.umbc.edu thought this was the worst..." Joe Jackson, Hometown ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 22:29:11 -0700 From: mjnewb@ix.netcom.com (Monty Newberry ) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Morse Code (TTT) Message-ID: <199508010529.WAA10464@ix3.ix.netcom.com>
Last Jam, somebody mentioned how the intro for TTT is Morse Code for SOS. Well, I checked it out, and it certainly sounds like it could be. Granted, this may not have been intentional, but, then again, it may have. I have a novice Ham radio license (my dad's been into it for many years - he's the expert in the family), so I do know a bit of Morse Code. Intersting... . God bless. See you in a few.
Your friend and mine,
Dale R. Newberry
"Reality dictates that you're probably better off being insecure." -David Letterman
P.S. I got the tapes (Subcon, Dance of Eternity, and Lost in the Sky). Sounds good so far, but I haven't finished listening to them yet. Thanks, dudes. I REALLY appreciate it. I'll let you know what I think as soon as I get them all listened to.
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 10:12:11 -0600 From: "Jeroen Verbunt" <verbuntj@prl.philips.nl> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 908 Message-ID: <9508011012.ZM8603@iris9>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 21:49:50 -0400 (EDT) > From: Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu> > To: DT List <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> > Subject: Assorted things. > Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9507302121.D62323-0100000@acs4.bu.edu> > > 5. Isn't "rhythm" spelled R-H-Y-T-H-M? Jus' checkin'.
My UNIX dictionary says:
RHYTHM \'rit_eh_e-*m\ n 1: regular rise and fall in the flow of sound in speech 2: a movement or activity in which some action or element recurs regularly -- rhyth.mi.c \'rit_eh_e-mik\ or rhyth.mi.cal adj -- rhyth.mi.cal.ly adv
So I think you're correct!
Ciao, JV.
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 95 12:22 +0300 From: Aviad Shkolnikov <shkola@mail.snunit.k12.il> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: No More Transcriptions! Message-ID: <m0sdDeQ-000121C@crash.cts.com>
Hey Y'all! I was holding myself when all the talk about "The Mirror" was infesting the Jam. It annoyed me, but I kept it to Myself. But now it's back! Come on people, discuss this among yourself. IMHO, not a lot of Jammers are interested in this stuff. Including the PolyRhythm thing. Take Care
- Aviad
***************************************************************************** "We went shoping for God, * "See my diary on the news stand, and got the God of Shoping..." * Seems we lost the truth to quicksand" Galiano * Dream Theater, "Voices" *****************************************************************************
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 12:48:27 GMT+0100 From: "Ken H ili" <KEN@benoni.nbr.no> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Moshing Message-ID: <MAILQUEUE-101.950801124827.320@benoni.nbr.no>
In 'Jam 905 Phil wrote:
"Moshing is violence. Music should NOT inspire violence. I am not by any means a pascifist, but music has and never will inspire anger and viilence within."
IMO, moshing is not violence. Music has never ispired violence in me, but it has inspired anger. When I hear a song about injustice (for example) I do get angry, but not violent.
Phil also wrote: "I believe that anyone who feels the need to mosh in order to hurt someone (this is anyone that moshes, except those that are just doing it cause everyone else is and they feel like bouncing around at a concert) is an idiot."
When I mosh, I do so because the music I listen to makes me want to move. I have never hurt anybody while moshing - and I am not an idiot! "I don't care if I have offended anyone on the 'jam with that statement because I know that I am right and I really don't care what anyone has to say in defense. Moshing=Unnecessary Violence."
This is a joke, right? So much for the openminded-ness of Ytsejammers! It was postings like this one that made me unsubscribe to the Live mailing list. Phil, you ought to think this one through once more. If 5 people go to a concert just to hurt others, does that make all moshers idiots? I think not!!!!
Yours peacefully, Ken the Slave
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 95 13:00 MET DST From: goebel@inf.fu-berlin.de (Ties Goebel) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Release date for ACOS Message-ID: <m0sdF3k-0002GvC@inf.fu-berlin.de>
According to the new-releases-mailing list, the ACOS EP will be released on
SEPTEMBER 19, 1995 - TUESDAY ----------------------------
So we have to wait 49 days...
Ties
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 09:13:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Van Opstall <mavanop@grfn.ORG> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 908 Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.950801091259.3487A-100000@freenet.grfn.org>
Tears is from 2112.
ACOS will be a studio recording.
M.A. VanOpstall mavanop@grfn.org
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 09:31:38 -0500 From: omman@solar.sky.net To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 908 Message-ID: <199508011431.JAA13338@sky.net>
<---- Begin Included Message ----> Hey all you Dreamers!
I called my local radio station today and found out something very disturbing! I requested them to play DREAM THEATER...and the DJ was very honest with me and told me she is not sure they even have Dream Theater in the studio(station). They did at one time..and played DT quite a bit...but since "national statistics"(etc..etc..)(and marketing) Dream Theater is not in demand as many other "new" bands or records..etc.. They might play late night when the DJ has more "freedom", but never hear them play during the day. What a shame...it all comes down to TARGET MARKETING...music on demand. It ALL comes
P.S. oh..by the way..the radio station Im talking about it 98.9 The Rock Kansas City. there phone number is:913-576-7989studio/ or main number:913-384-9900. ---- End Included Message ---->
I don't know...there's something I like about not hearing DT on the radio, it makes it...well so much more meaningful. While some people are out ruining there ears with crap bands like Offspring, Green Day, and other dime a dozen bands, I know I have DT sitting in my CD player to be played. And also, I've recently realized how HARD it is to make someone listen to DT. There's a certain type of personality that goes with listening to DT. 90% of all DT listeners I know fit into this personality: They are either artistic (painters, drawers, etc..), a musician, enjoys fantasy (rpg type) novels and etc, or all of the above... Your everyday football jock, metalhead, cheerleader, brainiac, type people don't appreciate it as much. That's why when a song like.."Silent Man" or "PMU" come on the radio, more people channel surf than enjoy! Just my $.02 James (BTW 98.9 NEVER plays DT!! They played Caught in a Web ONCE! (like right before the concert at memorial hall) and PMU like a couple of years ago! Well at least they play plenty of Rush!)
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 12:38:47 -0400 (EDT) From: schew@TIS.COM To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Trivia... Message-ID: <29563.9508011638@ragnarok.tis.com>
> >--What prog concept album has the title/artist in Morse code on the cover >of the album, and in the beginning and ending bits of the CD? ; clue, this >artist is a former member of a well-known Prog band, which use a similar >technique at the beginning/end of one their well-known albums. > This must be Roger Waters' "Radio K.A.O.S." album. A pretty interesting concept album but my least favorite of his three solo albums. "Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking" is my favorite. That album describes a man's dreams (and nightmares), creating a bizzare, dark atmosphere. Great stuff, though it took me a while to get into it. I'm not sure which Pink Floyd album you're referring to. The Wall has a voice at the beginning and end of the album (along with the same music) which creates a full circle (in a similar manner to James Joyce's "Finnegans Wake" -- an author who Kevin Moore enjoys (ie. DT content! ;-)).
>--What well known three word phrase from the Who's Quadraphenia is >lyrically and musically quoted by Fish on Marillion's 'Misplaced >Childhood'? clue, the quote is NOT on lyrics insert. What is the origin of >'Marillion's' band name? > I guess that must be when Fish yells "Reign O'vr Me" (though it sounds like "Rain on me" to me. :-) He definitely sings it in a similar way to how Roger Daltrey sings it though (Quadraphenia had the song "Reign O've Me"). This trivia is fun! :-)
Steve
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 15:21:59 -0400 From: Gpills@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: The Mirror Message-ID: <950801145340_127951924@aol.com>
An easier way to state the time signatures for the Mirror is to think about it as follows:
(rake) 2/2 (x2) 3/2 12/8 (x4) 2/2 (x15) 9/8 4/4 (x32) (4/4 because of the double time feel) 7/8 2/2 12/8 (first verse, etc.)
Comments? Questions? I alos wrote about this one in my Thesis, so I'd be interested in further discussion.
Glenn
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 95 09:58:17 -0400 From: david@pharlap.CI.COM (David B. Kuznick) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: More trivia Message-ID: <9508011358.AA15649@pharlap.ci.com>
> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 11:31:05 -0700 > From: debraun@fresno.edu (Randall Braun) > > --What prog concept album has the title/artist in Morse code on the cover > of the album, and in the beginning and ending bits of the CD? ; clue, this > artist is a former member of a well-known Prog band, which use a similar > technique at the beginning/end of one their well-known albums.
_Radio KAOS_ by Roger Waters
> --What well known three word phrase from the Who's Quadraphenia is > lyrically and musically quoted by Fish on Marillion's 'Misplaced > Childhood'? clue, the quote is NOT on lyrics insert.
Rain o'er me
What is the origin of > 'Marillion's' band name?
The Silmarillion by J.R.R Tolkein
David Kuznick - david@ci.com (preferred) or dkuznick@world.std.com ___ All your spirit rack abuses come to haunt you back by day {~._.~} All your byzantine excuses given time give you away ( Y ) Don't be surprised when daylight comes ()~L~() To find that memory prick your thumbs (_)-(_) You'll tell them where we run to hide - "Afraid of Sunlight" - MARILLION
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 13:14:10 -0400 (EDT) From: BOB HOLDER <BH7314@LUNDY.NIAGARAC.ON.CA> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: BH7314@LUNDY.NIAGARAC.ON.CA Subject: K.A.O.S. Message-ID: <950801131410.2040069f@LUNDY.NIAGARAC.ON.CA>
}From: debraun@fresno.edu (Randall Braun) }New Trivia Questions: } }--What prog concept album has the title/artist in Morse code on the cover }of the album, and in the beginning and ending bits of the CD? ; clue, this }artist is a former member of a well-known Prog band, which use a similar }technique at the beginning/end of one their well-known albums. Who else? Roger Waters - Radio K.A.O.S. (Excellent Disc) "Come inside, the show's about to start | Guaranteed to blow your head apart | Rest assured you'll get your money's worth | See Ya, The greatest show in Heaven, Hell or Earth." | Bob KARN EVIL 9, 1st Impression - Part 2, ELP |
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 15:03:34 -0400 From: Potestatem@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: CPI-epilogue Message-ID: <950801150254_127956133@aol.com>
Just thought I'd tell any under 21 LI males who didn't get to see DT at CPI because of their sexist admission policy- Having different ages for men and women to get in is illegal. However, the policy will probably stand until someone with enough extra time and money decides to sue them (in other words, the policy will stand). Not that I'm bitter about having missed my favorite band twice in under three months or anything!
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 15:47:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Kansas Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9508011500.A7059-a100000@bdmserver>
I have just started getting into Kansas and I can very easily see how they are influences of DT. Their music is similar except DT has taken it to a higher plateau and heavier and better of course. I definitely do see the influence.
I was just wondering which Kansas albums do people suggest as being their best. I have the new Kansas album Freaks of Nature and like it alot. I also have Live at the Whiskey and a CBS special products greatest hits type thing.
**** Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com **** ** "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater ** ** "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files ** **** GO ORIOLES!!!! Dream Theater - A Change of Seasons -Sept 15 ****
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 16:23:56 -0500 From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Polyrhythms and syncopations Message-ID: <v01510101ac4449fe7b49@[199.232.46.229]>
I just wanted to say that I think there is a fine line between polyrhythms and syncopations (although someone will definitely disagree with me). A polyrhythm is more than one rhythm played at the same time and a syncopation is displacing the strong beat. It would be interesting if we could get the definitive answer on it. I'm amazed at how many people think they have the definitive answer and state so. Like the intro to The Mirror or someone who said that he didn't think the bar of 2/4 and bar of 9/16 was needed (the only other choice is 17/16 which would be more confusing). I'd love to see someone say I think because it seems that the ones who don't are usually wrong.
In other news, I'm looking forward to hearing Echylon in Providence (as well as DT of course ;).
---------------- Marc Respass mer@sol.iii.net http://www.iii.net/users/mer/Welcome.html
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Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 23:20:43 -0400 From: WarrenDW@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Poly Rythmn defined Message-ID: <950731232042_45108705@aol.com>
Fellow musicians on the Jam....
Poly-rythmn theory is really simple to understand!! There is no need to be able to count or understand the L-R L-R thing. Remember " Polly want a cracker??" Well then.....
Polyrythmn is simply using 2 Parrots as drum sticks....the thinner the bird, the better. Hold them slightly on the side to avoid drumhead damage caused by beaks. Let them have plenty of water after every 10 minutes of playing. Give them potty breaks often. Store them upright when not using. Avoid cymbals altogether...that would be cruel. Always wear drummer's gloves to avoid losing your grip. Parrots do like to fly, they do NOT like to be launched.
Start out with a couple of slower songs... they need to build up tempo gradually. Avoid improvising...they don't like to "wing it". Use a regular bass drum pedal with beater. Avoid trying to do drumstick tricks...never spin, or "flip the bird", they don't like it. If you own a cat please use only conventional drumsticks....don't ask :(
I hope this finally clears things up for you people.
Warren in Oregon
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 18:56:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: K.A.O.S. Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950801185348.17221D-100000@oak.liii.com>
On Tue, 1 Aug 1995, BOB HOLDER wrote:
> }From: debraun@fresno.edu (Randall Braun) > }New Trivia Questions: > } > }--What prog concept album has the title/artist in Morse code on the cover > }of the album, and in the beginning and ending bits of the CD? ; clue, this > }artist is a former member of a well-known Prog band, which use a similar > }technique at the beginning/end of one their well-known albums. > > Who else? Roger Waters - Radio K.A.O.S. (Excellent Disc)
Right. The ending morse code on the album is a verse that Roger took out for fear of being sued. It was a poke at Sylvester Stallone and Rambo movies. At the live shows he used the verse, but on the KAOS album it's only in Morse Code.
Andy
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 20:23:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam ) Subject: ACoS Release Date Message-ID: <199508020023.UAA21185@grex.cyberspace.org>
I just heard some disturbing news:
My Store Manager at Musicland got off the phone with someone from East/West Records and she said that the release date For the ACoS EP won't be untill October 10 or so.
Can anyone confirm this??? I don't want to wait any longer!
-John
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 20:04:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam ) Subject: Bootlists? Message-ID: <199508020004.UAA19825@grex.cyberspace.org>
Friends, Ytsejammer's, Countrymen and others. Lend me your bootlists!
I am lookinf for all kinds of rare music and would like to increase my collection. With your help I can accomplish this goal. Please send me a list of all the bootleg material you have and If I see something I need I'll contact you for a trade.
Thanx in advance and see you in cyberspace.
-John
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 20:34:49 -0500 (CDT) From: nguyen john t <jtnguyen@cs.twsu.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Echolyn (ytsejam post) (fwd) Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950801203339.6646A-100000@emcity>
---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 22:56:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Dietrick Miller <ytsejam@strauss.udel.edu> To: "John T. Nguyen" <jtnguyen@kirk.cs.twsu.edu> Subject: Echolyn (ytsejam post)
Echolyn will be playing with Dream Theater, for the next show in Providence. Just thought people would like to know that. If anyone wants to get one the echolyn mailing list "The Wiblet" drop me an e-mail, and I give you the address (I'd give it to you now but I don't have it handy).
On the subject of Polyrhythms, I'd love to rip John Nguyen apart but I don't know enough about 'em. *** FUCK YA, BEEAAATCH! John ***
Later,
Andy
Andrew Miller ytsejam@strauss.udel.edu University Of Delaware V-mail (302) 831-4000 ext.87397 ******************************* If I stood on your shoulder and wispered in your ear, Truth is you still won't hear. -echolyn
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 17:39:44 -0400 (EDT) From: BOB HOLDER <BH7314@LUNDY.NIAGARAC.ON.CA> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: BH7314@LUNDY.NIAGARAC.ON.CA Subject: Fellow jammers at Ryche and the final night of the tour! Message-ID: <950801173944.2020095c@LUNDY.NIAGARAC.ON.CA>
Sorry about the old content but, it is my first day back to work since the 27th (you know, holidays and all) and it is happy :) and sad :( The date - Thursday, July 27/95. The place - Molson Amphitheater in Toronto. The event - QUEENSRYCHE. I ventured to this event with some friends of mine, only to meet up with fellow jammers Paul (whom was sporting his ytsejam t-shirt) and Dan. We chatted for a while (mostly during TON) about this, that and pretty well everything and then went our separate ways. I saw Queensryche at Darien Lake on July 14 so I knew what to expect right? WRONG!!!! We did not find out until the end of the show that this was the last night of their tour, glad to be there, sad to see it end. A fair amount of the show was the same, but their were some changes. I AM I seen a number of more PRESS people on stage. Promised Land had more people (most of their crew) on stage including a couple of bar fights with broken glass and the whole nine yards. The nurse was a stage hand w/wig and nurses outfit on. The entire show just seemed to have more UUUUUMPH. Their encore was two songs, the same as before, and that was it. After the show, they were throwing out guitar picks by the handful. {===========================================================================} {"Come inside, the show's about to start | "You need this, } { Guaranteed to blow your head apart | You worthless } { Rest assured you'll get your money's worth | Piece of Shit" } { The greatest show in Heaven, Hell or Earth." | As seen on the journey to} { KARN EVIL 9, 1st Impression - Part 2, ELP | the Promised Land } {---------------------------------------------------------------------------} { See Ya, Bob "Look out for number one" - Calvin } {===========================================================================}
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Date: Tue, 01 Aug 1995 21:15:43 -0400 From: mpatrick@netusa1.net (Mike Patrick) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Speaking of great drummers... Message-ID: <199508020332.WAA10664@web.netusa1.net>
We weren't, but that's o.k. Has anyone here ever heard of The Icicle Works? Alternative-ish, big hit about ten years ago call Whisper to a Scream. Anyway, I was looking for something old to listen to, and I happened upon one of their albums that I have. Neil Peart used to freak over their drummer, especially given that their first album contains INSANE drumming and Chris Sharrock was only 18 when they recorded it. REALLY phenominal if you can find any of it. Not at all DT, but imagine a harder driving U2 or something like that.
And again, can anyone confirm that the EP will NOT contain EVE and To Live Forever? I'm under the impression that this is the case. Bummer.
Mike Patrick mpatrick@netusa1.net Still searching for that elusive corner of the Net where civility is all the rage and the content is substantive. Ah, screw it. Who am I kidding?
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