YTSEJAM Digest 1172
Today's Topics:
1) saga and dream theatre in the US
by ludovic.duborgel@paris.ensam.fr (ludovic duborgel)
2) Many things.....mostly DT
by An Angel's Kiss... <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
3) taping the christmas shows
by "Brian V. Cox" <bvc8995@tam2000.tamu.edu>
4) ACOS Review
by Jason Breitweg <jbreitwe@lobelia.physics.wisc.edu>
5) Rockin' Christmas songs
by goebel@inf.fu-berlin.de (Ties Goebel)
6) help!!I need ticket!!
by steve matthews <WSM95003@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
7) I didn't write it
by mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
8) Prog band playing in Baltimore....
by schew@TIS.COM
9) Re: new guy (w/ bass questions)
by SaVeur <jjens@site.gmu.edu>
10) ***Various Stuff***
by Michael.Bradley@mail.trincoll.edu (Michael Bradley)
11) A Voice
by Dark Tower <voice@wolfenet.com>
12) Operation: Revolution
by larsh@infinity-online.com (Lars Hellsten)
13) Re: YJAM digest 1165/Dynamics listen to Scarred agin.
by coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
14) Re: Poll Leno/Letterman
by coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
15) DT Concert Info -- CT/NY/NJ
by Corporate Community Relations <buckley@powdml.ENET.dec.com>
16) Midwest YtseCon, can it be done?
by Arthur Pendragn <pendragn@cs.iastate.edu>
17) Re: DTCN/ Top fave bands....... :))
by coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
18) Adrian's last ride (NDTC, of course)
by KWMadden@nyc.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden)
19) Re: New album ideas....
by rquezada@monmouth.com
20) The Van Halen guitarist debate
by Martin Spain <M.G.Spain@herts.ac.uk>
21) A Nice Long Reply To Marc Respass
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 14:11:36 +0100
From: ludovic.duborgel@paris.ensam.fr (ludovic duborgel)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: saga and dream theatre in the US
Message-ID: <199512011311.OAA14683@suncrie.paris.ensam.fr>
hi to all the US DT fans
in an interview i had with michael sadler in Paris for their European
tour he said to me this:
Q:Do you like bands like Dream Theatre and Queensryche?
M SADLER:I like both very much. We 're talking about doing a SAGA/DT tour
package in the US. I think it would be a great evening of music. If the tour
is succesfull we will then come back to Europe(with DT).
So isn't it a good news if it happens!!!
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 10:20:07 -0500 (EST)
From: An Angel's Kiss... <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Many things.....mostly DT
Message-ID: <m0tLXG0-000078C@donews.cts.com>
Ok, I'm just gonna run thru a coupla things that some people
may find important, or may not - either way, here it comes....
1.) I'm trying to organize the Birch Hill get-together. If you
are going to the Birch Hill and meet up beforehand, E-mail
me privately, I will post the location and time within the
next two weeks, both on the 'Jam and via personal E-mail.
2.) Anyone know what the Acoustic Dreams numbers are up to?????
I would really like to get it around my birthday (the 15th,
don't forget!!!!)
3.) Has anyone gotten the SUPERIOR CD from our fellow Ytsejammer
Bernd Basmer?? I strongly suggest it for anyone on here, and
it would be nice to see a fellow Ytsejammer have some success
with the amazing talent they have.....
4.) Life blows.
5.) I think everyone at the 3 DT shows will be in for a surprise
because I'm thinking that they will play their new song (if its
done) at those shows. On the I&W tour, they had To Live Forever,
then they had ACoS, so I think (and boy do I hope) that their
new song is due! JOY!
Later,
Al Balkiewicz
vocals, Half Naked
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| Tremble, shake and live in your fear |
| cling to those which you hold dear |
| open your eyes and you will see |
| what you want will never be...... |
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 09:27:49 -0600 (CST)
From: "Brian V. Cox" <bvc8995@tam2000.tamu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: taping the christmas shows
Message-ID: <199512011527.JAA02648@tam2000.tamu.edu>
> From: William Kriski <wkriski@enci.ucalgary.ca>
> Subject: 3 X-mas shows - taping
> I don't know if this has been discussed but is anyone going to the DT shows around X-mas planning on taping them? I was wondering if we could do a huge tape dub for us unlucky folks who don't live in those areas. We could send some money to a few sites and get them early in the new year.
>
> Please respond to this post!!!
i will be taping all three shows on DAT (or at least trying to) :) and
i know of a couple other people that are taping all three shows, and at
least one other person taping all three on DAT, so they should be some
very well documented shows.
me and mike bahr have talked about releasing one of the shows as a 2cd set
for a limited edition for the jam. what do you guys think?
by the way, i finally found someone with DATs of dt german shows, and
one guy with one of the japan shows on DAT.
<><><><><><><><><><> Brian V. Cox (lerxst@tamu.edu) <><><><><><><><><><>
<>Rush|Dream Theater|Queensryche|King's X|Echolyn|King Crimson|Voivod><>
"You have to systematically create confusion - it sets creativity free.
Everything that is contradictory creates life."
-Salvador Dali, 1980
"The man or woman who is insensitive to the spell of this performance
really isn't fit to live in civilized society for it is one of
the wonders of the world"
-Frank Granville Barker
<><><><><><><><><>DAT Taper/Trader - Email me for list<><><><><><><><><>
<><><><><><><><><> http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~bvc8995 <><><><><><><><><>
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 09:41:13 -0600
From: Jason Breitweg <jbreitwe@lobelia.physics.wisc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: ACOS Review
Message-ID: <m0tLXj6-00002FC@donews.cts.com>
Hi All,
I thought you folks might want to see this review of ACOS. It is from
the November Request magazine that I got free at some shitty record
store. Someone might have posted this already but here it is again:
"Dream Theater's ACOS is the ultimate in excess from a band of
resolute prog-rock throwbacks. The title track is a 22-minute opus
featuring plenty of dazzling instrumental bravado but not one
memorable hook. The remainder of the album consists of a set of the
band members' favorite cover tunes recorded live in a London club.
Their choices range between true classics (Zep's "Achilles Last
Stand") and dusty pomposities (Floyd's "In The Flesh?"), with an air
of pointlessness hanging over the whole thing. Nostalgia is least
effective when it sounds so passionless."
Can you believe this shit! Of course they go on later to give the new
Soul Asylum a rave review. Go figure. Anyway if anyone cares these
dolts have an e-mail address that you can write to: LetrToEdit@aol.com
I hope people found this interesting. Adios. See you all at the SOLD
OUT El-N-Gee show.
Jason
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| Jason T Breitweg (jbreitwe@lobelia.physics.wisc.edu) |
| Ich bin ein Dream Theaterfan |
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 13:59:47 +0100 (MET)
From: goebel@inf.fu-berlin.de (Ties Goebel)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Rockin' Christmas songs
Message-ID: <m0tLV47-00005xC@inf.fu-berlin.de>
I can't believe you forgot an important one:
"Six o'clock on a Christmas morning....
Six o'clock on a Christmas morning...." :)
BTW, to everybody who's got Subconscious:
Ask Steffen (sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de) to send you the liner notes!
They include EVERYTHING about the songs!
Macht's gut,
Ties
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Date: Fri, 01 Dec 95 11:28:09 EST
From: steve matthews <WSM95003@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: help!!I need ticket!!
Message-ID: <951201.113229.EST.WSM95003@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
I was a bit purturbed yesterday when I went to Strawberry's to find out that th
he DT show was sold out. They said that I should call the El N Gee and see if
they had any left. I called them and they said that they were only selling tic
kets for 21 and over because they needed money for the bar. What's up with tha
at? I'd buy a drink for someone else if they would give me a ticket. So as of
now, it seems that I have no ticket for the show. I f anyone here knows where
e I can get a ticket, or if anyone has an extra that they would be willing to s
ell, please mail me, it would be extremely appreciated. If not, I'm going to g
o anyway and hunt down a scapler. thanks
Steve Matthews
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 12:19:16 -0500
From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: I didn't write it
Message-ID: <v01530501ace4e75b75c0@[199.232.46.229]>
> Marc Respass wrotes:
>
> Jesus saves.Gretzky scores the Rebound.
>
> and
>
> The Bruins defeat the Kings :-)
>
>
> Sorry for no DT,but this must be said...
I didn't write either of those, but I sure thought the first one was awfuly
funny. Getzky scores on the rebound. ha ha ha. That is so hilarious. Make a
good bumper sticker :D. It was in John Jens' .sig.
--Marc R
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 14:13:31 -0500 (EST)
From: schew@TIS.COM
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com, freaks@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu
Subject: Prog band playing in Baltimore....
Message-ID: <14505.9512011913@ragnarok.tis.com>
I saw this on the IQ list and thought people in the Baltimore
area might be interested.
Steve
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From: "Dr. Philip Rous" <philip@lionheart.umbc.edu>
Subject: Gig
Not directly IQ related, but my band, The Web, will be
playing in support of Averted Vision at Cafe Tattoo,
4825 Belair Rd, Baltimore MD on Sat Dec 2. We should
be onstage around 9:30pm.
Averted Vision is a great local band that plays a
variety of proggy covers and original material. This
will be the first gig for the web and we will murder
various Marillion and Gabriel-era Genesis tunes. We
expect to play a couple of IQ songs next time we
play out!
Phil
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-- Steve Chew - schew@tis.com - http://www.clark.net/pub/iz/home.html "Give me ambiguity or give me something else."------------------------------
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 12:27:34 -0500 (EST) From: SaVeur <jjens@site.gmu.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: new guy (w/ bass questions) Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.90.951201120809.8274A-100000@selenium>
howdy fellow 'Jammers (which is lacking gender specification in the English lang),
On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, Mark Smeets wrote:
> Hey all, > > I'm new to this list and its my firsr post as well. Some of you might know
welcome :)
> play bass. Can anyone tell me what kind of basses Myung uses. I know his
last i'd heard, John had switched from Tobias to Tung basses. u can read a really old article about John at my NEWLY REDESIGNED webpage "John's Lame Dream Theater Page": http://www.site.gmu.edu/~jjens/dt/
> Also, I just picked up Fates Warning "No Exit" and It totally kicks ass. That
alright! another FW fan on the list :)
> tell me anything about Joe Dibaise and the amazing drummer that is playing on > the Exit cd. I have yet to check out Chasing time. I also saw the new video for > Fates Warning, too bad I can't remember what its called but it was really > good.
Joe roolz. he played a Steinberger 4string on the Parallels tour (so my friend tells me). he loves hockey and is a really kool guy to hang w/ (according to another friend).
Chasing Time is pretty good. a must for all Fates fans. and i've yet to see the Monument vid :( > ahhh, a new mailing list to conquer
good luck :)
-later, john
"WEELLLLLL LIME IN THA VALLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY!!!!" -jkb, "tKH" off LatM
j o h n j j e n s @ g m u . e d u e n s h t t p : / / w w w . s i t e . g m u . e d u / ~ j j e n s /
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 13:40:18 -0500 From: Michael.Bradley@mail.trincoll.edu (Michael Bradley) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: ***Various Stuff*** Message-ID: <v01520d01ace4fbbd8349@[157.252.65.110]>
Hey guys!
To the guy who wrote this...
"First of all, I find it very reassuring to know that DT makes mistakes and that they are human. BUT. . .with all this stuff about Labrie's cockiness, it makes me wonder if he's related to Yngwie Malmsteen. . ."
Ha! That cracked me up. Even though I like James, I thought that was hilarious!!
ALSO!! I need two tickets for the Malibu show. Is it sold out?? PLEASE HELP A FELLOW DREAM-THEATER FANATIC!!!! Later guys!!
-Mike Bradley
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 10:59:44 -0800 (PST) From: Dark Tower <voice@wolfenet.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: A Voice Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.951201101038.8035A-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com>
My first post:
I find it odd that a Dream Theater fan would want them to be anything other than what they are. Talk of removing the keys, talk of adding another guitar, talk of James as the proverbial weak link. I guess discussion is one of the axis' upon which our world turns, but I would suggest that the reason we like them is because of the chemistry they currently seem to have acheived. I was sad when Kevin left, but I like Derik. And with respect to the thread on Labrie's voice, I can answer that I did not personally buy their work until he took the mic. I won't say they would not have been as successful without him, or with another vocalist, but I could argue just that.
Dream Theater is a group whose material shows consideration, and composition. It is symphonic, and I beleive requires a singer with the capabilities of a James Labrie. All of this doesn't even speak to the notion of what the other guys in the group desired from their front man. They did wait on the right guy, almost chosing an instrumental format. Though as a vocalist myself, I blanch at the inherent insult of this phrase. James is not an Eighties metal vocalist. He trained Opera four years. While he does at times compromise the vowels in the interest of tone, and possibly projection, it has also contributed to the development of a style and distinctiveness for him. I'm sure he's multifaceted.
I met James at their Salt Lake I&W tour date. He is down to earth. And it is precisely his integration into their sound that has given voice to the textural background upon which his lines are sung. I personally have no use for chunk-a-chunk heaviness for its own sake. But when Dream Theater made this a part of their sound, I beleive they did so by using the emotion is evokes to advance whatever expression they are trying to convey. I train with David Kyle in Seattle, and through the last two years my appreciation for what Labrie does has only deepened. I, too, have heard transient listeners of DT remark, "They should loose the keys," and "They need a singer who . . . ." and "The drummer is too busy," and "The base player should show more energy on stage," and "The guitarist is only interested in speed. I want to express more than that with my playing." Ad Nauseum. Mostly, in my expereince, these comments break down in two ways: Intimidation and Unfamiliarity. The first is a personal problem I can't speak to, the second is the unfortunate byproduct of media. Media in the larger more damaging sense, such as MTV and most radio stations. I was a confirmed Poison fan until I joined a band that played a more progressive style. It took longer to appreciate, it wasn't immediately accessible, but the music is more gratifying. There are a lot of listeners like I used to be, who are buying what the radios are playing, cause, see, that's what everyone else is buying. Oh, well.
I can't listen to backgroud music, it has to compel me and take me with it, and it's melody lines must course off the lips of a vocalist who has the ability to thrill me, not just with high notes, but certainly not without them. James' training was well spent. Everytime he sings into the masque mine does almost resonate with him.
Peter Orullian
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 15:07:33 -0500 From: larsh@infinity-online.com (Lars Hellsten) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Operation: Revolution Message-ID: <199512012007.PAA30569@infinity>
> - Then, we need to organize a massive, very well-organized petition > campaign aimed at those clients. We need to tell them 1) we watch .. > and prog rock videos; 4) we are, via the internet, organizing a > massive BOYCOTT against the products/services they are advertising > on MTV; 5) we are encouraging others in the non-internet > community to join us in boycotting their products/services;
I fully agree with you here. Operation: Revolution was a cute idea, but there's no way it would persuade MTV to change their programming. I'm sure everyone here would be more than willing to support something like this. Also, with all the hype about the Internet and information highway, etc. the last while in the media, I think it would be the perfect way to catch their attention.
With the Internet growing at the rate it is, and the talk about how in the future, it'll force businesses to keep themselves honest, and the fact that it is maybe a bit foreign to these companies (well, maybe), perhaps there's a possibility that they'll take us more seriously, knowing that with 30 million people online, and growing by 15% each month, there is a very real possibility the campaign could have a lot of impact. Then again, would a company really be prepared to change their entire advertising and marketing strategy just because a group of people on the net don't like them supporting MTV like that?
But, as you say, we'd need someone to organize the whole thing, and would it really be worth it? Possibly, but I know I sure as hell would never want to organize something like this, but if someone out there wants to, I'd be happy to support it all the way.
>at the complexity of their work. If you want a real shock, check out a >National Health album... 40 minutes of music like the instrumental break >in Metropolis.
<DROOL...>
Could someone please tell me where I could get my hands on something by this band? I'm sure there -are- plenty of bands out there that are more talented and more complex than DT, I just wish it wasn't so hard to find good music. :(
>I can't believe there are actually people out there who are willing to >criticize a vocalist for expressing some actual EMOTION in his/her delivery! >I can't for the life of me imagine why it's a bad thing to hear a singer
Zactly! The main thing that stands out on I&W, even moreso than the triggered drums for me, is James' vocals. They do nothing for me on that album. It just sounds too perfect, too un-emotional, too un-human. Awake and ACOS are much, much better in that respect.
Ytse-Lars.
-- Lars Hellsten <*> "Once I reached for love, and larsh@infinity-online.com <*> now I reach for life" http://infinity-online.com/~larsh/ <*> - Dream Theater
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 12:16:52 -0800 From: coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan ) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YJAM digest 1165/Dynamics listen to Scarred agin. Message-ID: <199512012016.MAA14446@ix10.ix.netcom.com>
Rebecca wrote:
>As for the new DT album, I'd also like to see dynamics utilized more. It >seems that in most of their songs its bang bang bang away and there is >really no volume contrast. ACOS was better about this than say, songs on >Awake (Voices, Scarred) but they really need to explore this more.
Excuse me please. Have you listened to Scarred? Please explain to me your your definition is on dynamics. Maybe I need some schooling. Scarred is one of the tracks on Awake when DT does use dynamics. I think indeed, yes indeed it is the bestest mostest kick-butt song on Awake next to the beginning of Voices. And... of course I'm right! :)
God Bless,
Michael C.
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 12:26:32 -0800 From: coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan ) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Poll Leno/Letterman Message-ID: <199512012026.MAA22117@ix12.ix.netcom.com>
Damion Sanchez wrote: > >Ben, > >When Megadeth was on Letterman, they played A Tout Le Monde.
Man oh Man, it's good to hear that there are other Letterman fans on this list. I would be interested to know how many of you listen to Leno or Letterman, yea, a poll. Why don't you e-mail me priv. or I'll starting getting on my soap box again and you wouldn't want that now, would you? I often ask this to people for reasons I will not state right now.
God Bless - the Rock is steady,
Michael C.
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 95 15:15:34 EST From: Corporate Community Relations <buckley@powdml.ENET.dec.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: DT Concert Info -- CT/NY/NJ Message-ID: <9512012014.AA29151@us2rmc.zko.dec.com>
1995 DREAM THEATER HOLIDAY SHOWS ================================
Dream Theater are doing (3) rare shows here in the Northeast. DT fans worldwide, PLEASE NOTE -- These are the LAST THREE SHOWS until LATE in 1996 and the start of their next World tour -- there are NO OTHER DATES planned ANYWHERE, period! So, you wanna see DT before late next year? Try trains, planes or automobiles to get up here for one of these three shows -- YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!
Below is a compiled list of general information to aid anoyone interested in checking out a show.
If anyone has any specific information on "ytsejam" group meetings before each respective show, please EMAIL me and I'll add the infomation to this listing...thanx!
Rock on... /Buck
P.S. -- I'll be doing my infamous 'Programmes' for these shows, which are fast becoming little collectors items in themselves. I print up 100 copies per show, so be sure to grab one if you you can.
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CLUB SHOW DATE ---- --------- El N Gee 27 DEC 95 P.O. Box 2210 Wednesday New London, CT 06320 (860) 437-3800
How to get Tickets:
- Tickets are SOLD OUT, for the most part. The club notes they have a VERY LIMITED amount of tickets left for sale AT THE DOOR, DAY OF SHOW, to 21 AND OLDER attendees ONLY -- NO EXCEPTIONS. First come, first serve.
Directions to the Club:
**FROM THE NORTH (Providence/Boston):
- Take I95-S to Exit 84S to Downtown New London. - This puts you on Eugene O'Neill Drive. - Go through 3 traffic lights. - Park in the LARGE parking lot (free/public) on your left. - El N Gee is the club is on Golden St., directly across the street which you came down, NOT the club across the side street which abuts the parking lot.
**FROM THE NORTH (Hartford/Western MA) - Take 395-S to Exit 78 (a left exit) - for Rt. 32. - Take Rt. 32-S until it ends. - Veer left for Downtown New London. - This puts you on Eugene O'Neill Drive. - Go through 3 traffic lights. - Park in the LARGE parking lot (free/public) on your left. - El N Gee is the club is on Golden St., directly across the street which you came down, NOT the club across the side street which abuts the parking lot.
**FROM THE SOUTH (New Haven/New York): - Take I95-N to Exit 83. - Go straight through traffic light at end of ramp. - After about 1/2 mile, there is a traffic light and a restaurant, "The Gondolier" is on your right. Go through this intersection to the next. - At the next light (almost immediately following), turn LEFT onto State St. - Follow State St. about 1/4 mile to intersection w/ Eugene O'Neill Drive. - At this traffic light, turn RIGHT onto E.O'Neill Drive. - Park in the LARGE parking lot (free/public) on your left. - El N Gee is the club is on Golden St., directly across the street which you came down, NOT the club across the side street which abuts the parking lot.
(Thanks to Meghan A. Middleton for clarification on the directions)
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CLUB SHOW DATE ---- --------- Malibu Night Club 28 DEC 95 Lido Beach, NY Thursday (516) 432-1600
How to get Tickets:
1) They are being sold through TicketShafter in NY. Call (516) 888-9000, use Ref. #: ELB1228 for the show. Tickets are $12.50 each, PLUS a $2.75 service charge and a $2.05 special handling charge, for a whopping ticket total of $17.30 per ticket!! Tickets are ordered through a major credit card, and will be mailed to the address listed on your card.
Directions to the Club:
- Get to either the Long Island Expressway (aka, the LIE) or 495 - Go to the Northern State Parkway. - You'll see signs off the NSP marked "Meadowbrook Parkway South/Jones Beach" -- take this exit! - Once you're on Meadowbrook Parkway South, continue on this for a while until you come to the last exit before Jones Beach (there should be signs for the toll booths beforehand). - There's an exit for the Loop Parkway, which takes you to Lido Beach/Long Beach/Point Lookout -- TAKE THIS EXIT!! - You will be heading west. Cross the bridge, and at the first light you get to, make a RIGHT. - About a 1/4 mile down, there will be another light, and if you look to your left, you will see a sign that says "Malibu - Dec. 28 - Dream Theater." - Make a LEFT at this second light and park ... there is PLENTY of free parking!
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CLUB SHOW DATE ---- --------- Birch Hill Night Club 29 DEC 95 Route 9 South Friday Old Bridge, NJ (908) 536-0650
How to get Tickets:
1) They are STILL being sold through TicketShafter in NJ. Call (609) 520-8383 to order tickets for the show. NOTE -- I tried 4 different TM phone numbers for NJ -- ALL said they couldn't sell me tickets to this event!! Please note if you get this line of BS from them, the above number DOES have the Birch Hill show on their system -- just push them to look the damn thing up and sell you tickets!!!
Tickets are $12.50 each, PLUS a $2.75 service charge and a $2.05 special handling charge, for a whopping ticket total of $17.30 per ticket!! Tickets are ordered through a major credit card, and will be mailed to the address listed on your card.
Directions to the Club:
- From North or South, take your favorite roads leading to the New Jersey Turnpike (NJTP) or the GSP (Garden State Parkway). - If you're coming in from the NJTP, Exit 11 will take you to the GSP. - Once on the GSP (which you can take directly from certain locations), take Exit 123 to get to Route 9, heading south. - Birch Hill is down a couple of miles in Old Bridge on the right hand side. (The place has a big sign, you can't miss it!)
/or/
- If you're closer to Exit 9, you're better off taking that to Route 18 south. - Keep going until the Route 9 south exit (it's the first exit after the last traffic light, i.e. when the freeway part begins). - Follow Route 9 south for about 1/2 mile. - Birch Hill will be on your right.
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Date: Fri, 01 Dec 1995 14:30:57 CST From: Arthur Pendragn <pendragn@cs.iastate.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Midwest YtseCon, can it be done? Message-ID: <199512012031.OAA29898@cs.iastate.edu>
Hi Everyone, All this talk of the upcoming concert and Ytsecon are making me very jealous. I was wondering if there is any possibility of a similar event here in the midwest when they come through? How would one go about setting this up with the band? Judging by where DT played the last time they came through Minneapolis or Kansas City would be the two choices. If there is anyone else in the Midwest is interested in this or has connections to the band, please drop me a line.
Thanks Todd
________________________________________________________________________ /Todd O Klindt Get WARPed today!!! Team OS/2 \ |tklindt@iastate.edu "All that I feel is Honor and Spite, | |toklind@dops.adp.iastate.edu All I can do is just set it right!" | |pendragn@cs.iastate.edu - Dream Theater 'Pull Me Under' | \________________________________________________________________________/
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 12:35:20 -0800 From: coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan ) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: DTCN/ Top fave bands....... :)) Message-ID: <199512012035.MAA10208@ix.ix.netcom.com>
Heath Augustover wrote:
>P.S. The person who started the last who's their 5 top favs, was me.
Let me see now...
My top favorite bands are......... BTW I never did contribute.
Michael C.
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 18:52:03 -0500 From: KWMadden@nyc.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Adrian's last ride (NDTC, of course) Message-ID: <9512012352.AA05676@>
On Nov 30, 1995 21:53:29, 'Partha' wrote: >Last, would anyone care for a Kevin Moore legacy piece on the next album,
>sorta like what Adrian Smith did for IM's No Prayer... (can't remember >the name o' the song right now, but methinks it is the best song on the album) >This is not to say I want one of those, just a thought > > Partha Mukhopadhyay > I fear I am about to tread into the area which no one should go...but, (there's always that "but") the song of which you speak was "Hooks in You" and it is generally considered one the worst Iron Maiden songs ever. The danger in saying that would be that I almost never advocate taking the masses' view of what's good and bad, but (!) in this case I agree. If Kev came up with stupid lyrics like "Hooks in the ceiling for that well-hung feeling" I would advise him to Give It Up. Of course, this is just an opinion. DT content? Ha! -- Kevin (kwmadden@usa.pipeline.com) GO PACKERS...GO WINGS!!!
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Date: Fri, 01 Dec 1995 15:50:12 -0500 From: rquezada@monmouth.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: New album ideas.... Message-ID: <30BF6A84.635D@monmouth.com>
To the person who said that the CD+ (if it were done) would be about $50: (I can't find the original e-mail)
There is a new Rolling Stones CD I saw that's supposed to be in CD+ format. It said on the label on the CD that there was a bonus video and interactive material that can be played on a computer (which is what CD+ is supposed to be for). It didn't cost any more than a regular CD; it was about $12.99.
If the DT CD were a 2 CD set, it might cost $15 or so if you don't get it at one of those "chain" stores like MusicLand, Sam Goody, etc.
rq
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 14:27:35 +0000 (GMT) From: Martin Spain <M.G.Spain@herts.ac.uk> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: The Van Halen guitarist debate Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951201141934.5158C-100000@altair.herts.ac.uk>
Thought I'd stop lurking and make my contribution to this:
On tours, Sammy plays guitar on "One Way To Rock" where he and Eddie trade solos; he plays acoustic on "Finish What Ya Started" and also when he does his solo song. On the "Live Without A Net" video, he also plays guitar on their cover of Led Zeppelin's "Rock and Roll". Can't remember if he played guitar on any of the new stuff from "Balance" when I saw them at Wembley earlier this year.
Jam on, people.
Mart
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 13:38:40 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: A Nice Long Reply To Marc Respass Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.951201133813.124626C-100000@homer30.u.washington.edu>
Seeing as how I am still resisting the temptation of conforming to popular activity by posting only what I dislike about DT, I figured I would do the usual and handle something differently than the guy before me did, ie Marc Respass. Hey, what can I say, I gotta be me.
> From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass) > Subject: Berklee is no fucking guarantee!!!
After reading just the subject heading, I was suddenly hit with a flash of inspiration for another wonderful story. See what you think:
*************************************** Marc Respass, McLaughlin Of The Ytsejam ***************************************
Marc: Issue #1. DT isn't a jazz band. They aren't jazz players. They shouldn't play jazz.
Me: I could be wrong, but didn't they study jazz at Berklee?
Marc: WRONG!! BERKLEE IS NO FUCKING GUARANTEE!! YOU'RE A FUCKING IDIOT!!
Anyway, Marc brought up another argument that reminded me of an event that will probably offend a few people. But considering who I am, what does that matter?
> > Might I remind you that Dream Theater is comprised of three > > men from Berklee? > > Big fucking deal! When were you at Berklee? What do you know of Berklee?
Okay, quick story. I'm sitting outside having lunch with several people, one of whom is a born-again Christian. We'll call this person Hubris. Anyway, Hubris is going on and on about a gospel vocalist named Susan Ashton, and how absolutely incredible her music is.
I ask Hubris, "Who's Susan Ashton?"
At this point Hubris looks at me like I'm an alien from another world.
"She's a Christian singer." Hubris says. "You've never heard of Susan Ashton?"
To which I reply, "No, I'm just a Roman Catholic. Guess that's why I've never heard of her."
Hubris then gives me a rather silent, hollow look and demands that I clarify my Catholicism, since I can't be all that Christian if I don't know who Susan Ashton is. I field her questions, then proceed to remind Hubris of the position of born-again Christians in the church as opposed to that of the stupid, naive, non-Susan-Ashton-listening-to Roman Catholics, one of whom is the pope himself...
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