YTSEJAM Digest 1187
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YtseCon II
by "Patrick H. Davis" <75463.2253@compuserve.com>
2) IRC
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu>
3) FW: It's a Trek Christmas... (fwd)(NDTC)
by eiagm@eznet.net
4) My one and only gripe with the God discussion
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu>
5) Re: Jeremy Haynes (aka Sue Moran...) RETURNS!!!!!!! ****PLEASE READ****
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
6) Ytsejambitch / More Bafu
by Baron Sengir <tsbileci@beta.loyno.edu>
7) Various Posts
by TDHC56A@prodigy.com (MR MARTIN D SCHOCH)
8) Magna Carta Bands
by "Ryan D. Eschauzier" <rdesc@conncoll.edu>
9) DT IRC
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
10) *** Attention Long Island Area Jammers ***
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu>
11) IRC/Bafu's Sarcasam /PCashman - Step down N-man.
by coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
12) dream bands
by arom@capital.edu (Aaron Rom)
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1183
by Scott McCammon <mccammsa@cs.purdue.edu>
14) Re: *NDTC* I didn't write it
by SaVeur <jjens@portal.gmu.edu>
15) I've found GOD
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
16) YJAM digest 1179/Chris Crowder good point!/ Not bad for a BK employee. :)
by coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
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Date: 06 Dec 95 20:49:54 EST
From: "Patrick H. Davis" <75463.2253@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:ytsejam@arastar.com" <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: YtseCon II
Message-ID: <951207014954_75463.2253_FHQ72-3@CompuServe.COM>
Trey,
I'm all for option 4. The cost that includes the shirt and room sounds good.
I just hope DT can attend. That will make my entire trip worth every cent.
Waiting for updates,
Pete
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 22:06:03 -0500 (EST)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: IRC
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.951206215703.365602B-100000@moose.uvm.edu>
Okay, I've had it up to HERE with Nuggetbaby's fucking bot. It's a tiny
annoyance that we can't change the topic. It's slightly more annoying
that you can't type more than FIVE FUCKING LINES in a row without getting
kicked. (That is particularly annoying when you are talking with one
other person, who types slower than you do.) It was surprising when I
heard that Ben got banned. But, now that I hear that Augie got banned, I've
had enough. I say to hell with Nuggetprick and his toys. If you're
looking for me, I'll be on #dreamtheater. Let Nuggetfuck play with his
litle toys on some other channel. Do you think you own the fucking IRC
or something? Did we elect you as Keeper of the Channel and Protector of
All That Is Sacred in Cyberspace? Do you really think that every fucking
person on this list enjoys watching you play with yourself via 10-Base-T?
Get a hobby, you mindless bastard. I'll be chatting. Go blow your load
on someone else's channel. This was supposed to be OUR channel, not yours.
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* Christopher R. Merlo |8^)= *
* The University of Vermont, 211 Jeanne Mance Hall *
* Burlington, VT 05405 U.S.A. *
* cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu http://www.uvm.edu/~cmerlo *
* *
* * Will work for bass strings * *
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 23:25:17 +0000
From: eiagm@eznet.net
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: FW: It's a Trek Christmas... (fwd)(NDTC)
Message-ID: <199512070345.WAA27238@mail1.eznet.net>
Please no one hate me for sending this to the list. I imagine some
of you may actually find this amusing:
---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: Ken Lipka, INTERNET:klipka@ford.com
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(unknown), INTERNET:YOSH@ENGIN.UMICH.EDU
CC: (unknown), INTERNET:TSARF@UMICH.EDU
(unknown), INTERNET:SCOTT_B@IMAGE1.COM
Rick Coen, 74011,2170
DATE: 12/05/95 12:49 PM
RE: FW: It's a Trek Christmas... (fwd)
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From: Ken Lipka <klipka@ford.com>
Subject: FW: It's a Trek Christmas... (fwd)
To: rpratt1@ford.com, yosh@engin.umich.edu
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 95 12:27:21 EST
Cc: tsarf@umich.edu, scott_b@image1.com, 74011.2170@compuserve.com
Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85.2.1]
> ---------------Original Message---------------
> And Now For All You Trek Fans Out There...
>
> Christmas in Space
> ------------------
> by Eric R. Rountree
>
> 'Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the ship
> Not a circuit was buzzing, not one microchip;
> The phasers were hung in the armoury securely,
> In hopes that no aliens would get up that early.
>
> The crewmen were nestled all snug in their bunks
> (Except for the few who were partying drunks);
> And Picard in his nightshirt and Bev in her lace,
> Had just settled down for a neat face-to-face...
>
> When out in the halls there arose such a racket,
> That we leapt from our beds, pulling on pants and jacket.
> Away to the lifts we all shot like a gun,
> Leapt into the cars and yelled loudly, "Deck One!"
>
> The bridge Red-Alert lights, which flashed through the din,
> Gave a lustre of Hades to objects within.
> When what, on the viewscreen, should our eyes behold,
> But a weird kind of sleigh, and some guy who looked old.
>
> But the glint in his eyes was so strange and askew
> That we knew in a moment it had to be Q.
> His sleigh grew much larger as closer he came.
> Then he zapped on the bridge and addressed us by name:
>
> "It's Riker! It's Data! It's Worf and Jean-Luc!
> It's Geordi! And Wesley, the genetic fluke!
> To the top of the bridge, to the top of the hall!
> Now float away! Float away! Float away all!"
>
> As leaves in the autumn are whisked off the street,
> So the floor of the bridge came away from our feet,
> And up to the ceiling our bodies they flew,
> As the captain called out, "What the hell is this, Q?!"
>
> The prankster just laughed and expanded his grin,
> And, snapping his fingers, he vanished again.
> As we took in our plight and were looking around,
> The spell was removed, and we crashed to the ground.
>
> Then Q, dressed in fur from his head to his toe,
> Appeared once again, to continue the show.
> "That's enough!" cried the captain, "You'll stop this at once!"
> And Riker said, "Worf! Take aim at this dunce!"
>
> "I'm deeply offended, Jean-Luc," replied Q,
> "I just want to celebrate Christmas with you."
> As we scoffed at his words, he produced a large sack.
> He dumped out the contents and took a step back.
>
> "I've brought gifts," he said, "just to show I'm sincere.
> There's something delightful for everyone here."
> He sat on the floor and dug into his pile,
> And handed out gifts with his most charming smile:
>
> "For Counsellor Troi, there's no need to explain.
> Here's Tylenol-Beta for all of your pain.
> For Worf I've some mints, as his breath's not too great,
> And for Geordi LaForge, an inflatable date.
>
> For Wesley, some hormones, and Clearasil-Plus;
> For Data, a joke book; for Riker, a truss.
> For Beverly Crusher, there's sleek lingerie,
> And for Jean-Luc, the thrill of just seeing her that way."
>
> Then he sprang to his feet with that grin on his face
> And, clapping his hands, disappeared into space.
> But we heard him exclaim as he dwindled from sight,
> "Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good flight!"
>
>
> Based on "A Visit from St. Nicholas" by Clement Clarke Moore
> Adaptation Copyright c 1990, Eric R. Rountree
>
> This work may be freely distributed provided the above notice is included
> intact. EMail: Eric.Rountree@Dal.CA
>
>
> Ok I admit it, I'm a Trek Fan... Here's Another
>
> 'Twas the night before Christmas on the Enterprise-D,
> On a routine short hop to Starbase 03,
> With Data on duty in the command chair,
> At Warp 6, the Enterprise soon would be there.
>
> Just for something to do while the other crew slept,
> He scanned where historical records were kept --
> And with a blink of his eye and a cock of his head,
> "Intriguing! Tomorrow is Christmas!" he said.
>
> But no one was stirring, and he sought to find why,
> And so he buzzed Geordi, who awoke with a sigh:
> "Christmas? It's only an old holiday --
> Now just let me get back to sleep, okay?"
>
> "But is to wish Merry Christmas not human to do?"
> And so Data wished it -- to the whole ship and crew.
> Everyone on the Enterprise awoke from this clatter --
> Picard rushed to the bridge to see what was the matter.
>
> "What is the meaning of this noise, Mister Data?"
> "Sir, is it not Christmas--?" "We'll discuss it much later!"
> Just then Worf said, "Captain -- a Klingon Prey Bird!
> Its hull has been damaged -- it's uncloaking, sir."
>
> "On screen," said Picard, as the Klingon ship hailed:
> "Federation vessel, our Life Support systems have failed!
> A strange ship attacked us, inflicting the worst,
> (though naturally, of course, we'd fired on it first)."
>
> The Klingons beamed over, and the senior staff met,
> To try and determine the source of the threat.
> Said Picard, "Mister Data, an assignment for you:
> Give all of these Klingons something to do!
>
> They think it's the Romulans we should look for,
> Get them all off the bridge, before there's a war!"
> So Data departed, while the rest of the crew
> Wondered: Romulans? Ferengi? If not them, then who?
>
> Said Worf, "Sir -- disturbance on Holodeck Three!"
> The entire bridge crew ran down there to see.
> Roared Picard, "Mister Data, what the devil is this!!"
> "Sir, I have taught the Klingons how to celebrate Christmas."
>
> And so there they were -- on holodecks 3, 4 and 5
> With synthohol, singing and Rokeg Blood Pie!
> Soon the Big E was rocking with holiday cheer
> Friend,foe, and family came from both far and near.
>
> The Romulans showed up with some Romulan Ale,
> The Ferengi brought goodies for free -- not for sale!
> But a strange ship was coming, the captain was told,
> With one crew member only, and a huge cargo hold.
>
> Said the Klingons, "It's the strange ship that fought us -- attack!"
> Said Picard, "On Christmas? -- Mister Worf, just hold back."
> And then as the ship came into view,
> Onscreen came its captain -- none other than Q!
>
> He wore a white beard and a suit of deep red...
> "Joyeux Noel, mon captain," was what Santa Q said.
> "Tell those Klingons next time to not go so berserk.
> You need good defense systems in this line of work.
> Now if you'll excuse me, I'll be warping away...
> Did you think anyone else could do this job in one day?"
>
> "I'm sensing emotion," said Counselor Troi,
> "Peace in the galaxy, Good Will and Joy."
> And they stood on the bridge and watched Q take flight,
> shouting,
> "MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL, AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT!"
>
>
>
> ----------End of Original Message----------
>
Ken Lipka
klipka@ford.com
Mike Stover
eiagm@eznet.net
http://home.eznet.net/~spider/spider.htm
"He who can copy, can do" - Leonardo Da Vinci
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 22:56:27 -0500 (EST)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: My one and only gripe with the God discussion
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.951206223638.327406B-100000@moose.uvm.edu>
> From: WarrenDW@aol.com
> Subject: IRC and EGOS
[snippety snip-snip]
> As far as Michael C. and GOD/ and or JESUS references go.....Hey Richard
> Karsmakens!! you say you don't believe in God and have "valid
> reasons"...fine!! Just keep your bullshit off the Ytsejam...and E-mail him
> directly. I can tolerate your ignorance....once or twice...from now on just
> E-mail your ignorance direct! OK??
It's always difficult to figure these things out without seeing the
speaker's face or hearing his tone of voice, but if you are insinuating
that atheism=ignorance then we need to talk.
* * *
By the way, if I misunderstood you, and you're not saying that atheistic
faith is an ignorant lifestyle, then stop reading now, because I don't
mean any of this. Like I said, I couldn't tell.
Of course, that's all cover-my-butt lawyerspeak. :)
* * *
You, Warren, are precisely the sort of person that makes this world a
more difficult place in which to live. It is absolutely arrogant and
hateful to tell somebody that he or she is ignorant because his or her
faith and/or belief system is different than yours. I've never really
understood why we atheists are so threatening to people that believe in a
god, or even many gods for that matter. We are the minority! We don't
have meeting places, we don't have TV shows on Sunday mornings, we don't
have cable stations, we don't have popes, we don't have Presidential
candidates. What we do have is an open mind, capable of tolerating
people that are different than us. We have faith in the natural,
scientifically-explainable facets of existence. Many of us have
first-hand knowledge of a religion. We have taken our experiences, our
education, and our knowledge of the world around us (albeit limited,
since we ARE humans), and have chosen a path different than yours.
To automatically call atheists ignorant is the essence of ignorance. It
is also obviously a defense mechanism. Something about us threatens
you. Could it be that we have far more scientific proof to back us up
than you do? Perhaps you're starting to have doubts yourself. If so,
come join Saveur and I on the undernet IRC channel #atheism. We would be
glad to help you find the truth in yourself, whatever it may be.
Personally, I don't give two shits about anybody's religion or beliefs
about deities. If you want to discuss then on the Jam, well that's
fine. I understand that you want a venue. We are all supposed to be
friends here, anyway. (Well, most of us.) I have the ability to skip
posts I don't feel like reading. However, if you wish to promote
ignorance and hatred on this list, then something is wrong. Maybe you
should seek counseling.
-Chris
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* Christopher R. Merlo |8^)= *
* The University of Vermont, 211 Jeanne Mance Hall *
* Burlington, VT 05405 U.S.A. *
* cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu http://www.uvm.edu/~cmerlo *
* *
* * Will work for bass strings * *
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 95 19:55:03 PST
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Jeremy Haynes (aka Sue Moran...) RETURNS!!!!!!! ****PLEASE READ****
Message-ID: <9512070355.AA14790@tengs1.teng>
> From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
>
> I say we just turn his lame ass in...he's ripped off enough of us now to
> make it justifyable as mail fraud...he's done it multiple times, and this
> kind of shit is NOT cool. Any other ideas??? (BTW he ripped me off too
> about a year ago)
Ha! Nice try, "Eric." We know you're an imposter. I mean, it's
obvious...
Z.
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 22:24:12 +0000 (GMT)
From: Baron Sengir <tsbileci@beta.loyno.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Ytsejambitch / More Bafu
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.951206222048.27638T-100000@beta.loyno.edu>
> From: Ldyicefire@aol.com
> Subject: ARGHHHH
I like your ID. Lady Icefire, is it? That reminds me of a friend of mine
who went by the alias Puppy Iceflame for some time. Know, he's known as
Sword Boy (or The User Formerly Known as Iceflame) but that's another story.
> Please...Just give it up.... Male vocalist female vocalist... A good singer
> is a good singer. End of story..Anyone who wants to fight me on that
> fact..Let me send you my CD!!!!!!!PLUS James is one of the best out
> there...stop pivking on his voice.
Yes, I agree. James Labrie is a great male vocalist. Iggy Pop is not.
Madonna is a great female vocalist. Courtney Love is not.
Oh yeah and please send me your CD.
> Love and lust,
> Heather of Dragonlady
> (alias the YstejamBitch)
No, no, no. That's Susan Moscardini.
> From: fates@ix.netcom.com (Carlo D'Angelo )
> Subject: BAFU IS SUSAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Hehe....I just had to after I read Bafu's post. I post regularly ( at
> least I like to think I do) and I usually don't write short ones
> offering praise but I JUST HAD TO! For the first time the Jam had me
> laughing my ass off in front of my monitor......Kudos to Bafu (or how
> 'bout Butterfingers?)
This is the FIRST TIME? You haven't been here very long have you? Bafu's
been around for a while.
Paul
Baron (Try E-mail Relay Chat sometime. It's fun!) Vai...er...I mean Sengir
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Date: Wed, 06 Dec 1995 23:38:22 EST
From: TDHC56A@prodigy.com (MR MARTIN D SCHOCH)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Various Posts
Message-ID: <013.06250438.TDHC56A@prodigy.com>
Some thoughts on some recent posts:
>Bafu rules.
>God rules.
>Thus, Bafu is God.
Alas, your logic is flawed. For instance:
A dog has four legs.
A cat has four legs.
A dog is a cat.
Not quite. Sorry, Bafu.
>"Will AL BALKIEWICZ ever send me the tapes he has owed me for nine
>months?????"
>--Pat Daugherty
PLUS
>Al Balkiewicz is coordinating the pre-show party. Contact him at
>"balkiewi@umdnj.edu" for more information.
There's your chance, Pat.
Or maybe a bunch of Jammers could attend Half Naked's next concert
and ask Al
where the tapes are in the middle of a power ballad.
Good luck--- Martin
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 23:49:42 -0500 (EST)
From: "Ryan D. Eschauzier" <rdesc@conncoll.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Magna Carta Bands
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9512062307.A21531-0100000@dsys.cc.conncoll.edu>
I was wondering if anybody has ever ordered anything directly from Magna
Carta before? I ordered Cairo, Shadow Gallery, and Magellan, and I've
received nothing for about 5 weeks now. I would love to call them, and
find out what's up with my discs, but I can't find a phone number
anywhere. Can anybody help me out? Email me personally or post it, I
guess. -----------
As far as the Trevor Rabin debate goes, sorry to those of you sick of
this, here's what I think. Trevor is great, Yes is great with or without
him. I think Talk was Trevor's best album (not enough Chris) and I think
he could have done some more good things with yes. But-----I am totally
psyched to have Rick back!!!!!I think Trevor would be horrible in Dream
Theater. I can't even imagine it.
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 01:54:22 -0500 (EST)
From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT IRC
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9512070123.C28023-0100000@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu>
FYI I'm no longer babysitting IRC anymore...we have our own DT IRC server
on irc.wezl.org...soon to be dream.wezl.org and the owner said we are
more than welcome to totally take it over...he himself is a DT fan. TO
those who have said crap about me on IRC...oh well...Now those of you who
told me to do this know why I didn't want to in the first place. Have
fun
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If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sigs) (i.e.
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StatisticZ show that if a person is born with Perfect Pitch, chances are
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 02:41:11 -0500 (EST)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: *** Attention Long Island Area Jammers ***
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.951207023306.282220A-100000@moose.uvm.edu>
Hey. I've been thinking about holding a pre-YtseCon for those of us that
live in the Long Island area. Basically, it will give us a chance to get
together and meet each other before the actual YtseCon. That way, we'll
have a better time at the show, and have less people to meet all in one
day. :)
Of course, if you don't live in the area, but plan on being around,
you're welcome to join us!
So, here's what I'm thinking. I figure that Saturday, 23 December ought
to be a good day for everybody. I was also thinking about someplace like
Bennigan's in Garden City, on Stewart Ave., adjacent to the mall. This
way, just about everyone ought to be home from school, off from work, and
whatever. Here's what I need:
I need a general idea from those of you that would like to come about
whether that day is good, what time would be best, and whether there is a
more suitable place to meet. Now that I'm thinking about it, there is a
Friday's in Rockville Centre. If we meet there, I can show everybody
where the YtseCon is going to be held (we hope!), so you get an idea of
where you're going. But let me know soon, and we can get things rolling!
E-mail me at cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu, and put pre-Con or something in your
subject line.
-Chris
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* Christopher R. Merlo |8^)= *
* The University of Vermont, 211 Jeanne Mance Hall *
* Burlington, VT 05405 U.S.A. *
* cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu http://www.uvm.edu/~cmerlo *
* *
* * Will work for bass strings * *
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Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 21:55:38 -0800
From: coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: IRC/Bafu's Sarcasam /PCashman - Step down N-man.
Message-ID: <199512070555.VAA19609@ix4.ix.netcom.com>
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From: coghlanm@ix.netcom.com(Michael Coghlan )
Subject: #ytsejam/Bafu's little sarcasitc?/Nuggetman step down.
To: ytsejam@arastar.com
Paul Cashman said: (>)
>> From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
>> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
>> Subject: #ytsejam
>>
>
>If anyone else who frequents #ytsejam wants to speak up, please feel
>free. This is a more DT-related topic than, oh, say, the strengths
>and weaknesses of Yes's lineup through the years.... (It's been done
>before; just read r.a.music.progressive.)
>
>> > It's a lot easier to have a fun, casual conversation in #ytsejam about
>> > DT...
>> > when users and bots (like YtSeJaM) aren't mucking around with channel
>> > operator privileges, banning people, kicking them off the channel, etc.
>>
See the following is sarcasam, correct me if I'm wrong Bafu:
>> Really? I thought it was kind of fun only saying half a sentence, getting
>> kicked off, and then having to come back to finish. It adds a genuine air
>> of suspense when someone is in the middle of saying something, and gets
>> booted out of the room. Makes you wonder what they'll say if they have the
>> nerve to get back into the room, finish their comment, then tell off their
>> booter.
>Sure, it's fun in a low-brow way. To each his own. I'd rather chat
>without all the distractions and acrimony. If it's all in fun, great,
>but some people might have trouble separating a joke from an affront.
>See earlier 'Jam, where the Great and Munificent Michael Bahr
>mentioned getting kicked out of #ytsejam. He thought it was a bit
>rude. Most new arrivals would, too.
>Radical, I know. I've seen Nuggetman kick and ban folks for saying
>the wrong thing. Playing God? Not for me to say, but I wouldn't ban
>someone for anything less than outright sabotage ('invasions,' etc.)
>It kicked me off ("Idle!" kick!) because I was just in the channel
>waiting for someone else to show up. Gee, sometimes that's what you
>HAVE to do to start off an evening. Bots are fine for holding a
>channel, but are remarkably bad at maintaining a conversation.
I agree with you Paul it's a pain. Nuggetman said though if we didn't like
it to the write the jam and complain and he would step down. Ben L. was
there right remember Ben?
I think after all the complaints and comments I have read about the #ytsejam
channel goings on, it could all be summmed up as a complaint. So honor your
word Nuggetman and step down as the channel OP. The idea is to attract
jammers not to piss them off or frustrate them. So please "let it be" step
down and join in on the fun.
>--But wouldn't it be nice if you could say whatever you wanted on
>#ytsejam without getting kicked?
Yes sir! Thumbs up on that.
Come on in Jammers. On my network I join EFnet. Someone was asking earlier
how to do it in Netscape. If Netscape has an IRC pull down use connect to
IRC. It should be the IRC everyone in the would can get to. Then select to
join a channel: #ytsejam in this case.
God Bless,
Michael C.
--aovbgcahlbycpxuriccyrpeatrradh--
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 00:51:44 -0500
From: arom@capital.edu (Aaron Rom)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: dream bands
Message-ID: <9512070551.AA04679@athena.capital.edu>
Just a quick reminder that almost any supergroups like the ones you all are
dreaming of almost never put out material worthy of the musicians that play on
the album (i.e. ASIA, Yes' Union, Contraband, etc. etc.). The sum of the parts
is greater than the whole. Just my $.02.
Aaron Rom
"I repeat myself when I'm under stress. I repeat myself when I'm under stress.
I repeat myself when I'm under stress. I repeat myself when I'm under stress.
I repeat myself when I'm under stress."
-Adrian Belew, "Indiscipline"
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 01:53:43 -0500 (EST)
From: Scott McCammon <mccammsa@cs.purdue.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1183
Message-ID: <199512070653.BAA01443@sherman.cs.purdue.edu>
> From: WarrenDW@aol.com
> Subject: IRC and EGOS
>
> Of course NugGeTMan is now an official asshole. I hated reading his posts
> anyway...The mixture of CAPS and normal type, plus the spelling etc. was/is
> really tiresome. Not cute at all..........
Ha! In this same jam was the first post by NugGeTMan that I've seen without
nuGgeTSpeAk! Come on guys lets not be jumping on someone's case without good
reason. I don't recall Warren being trashed on irc. Let's jam on here and
let the offended parties deal with their disputes outside the list.
For a little DT content, may I remind everyone that the gift of music is
perfect for the holidays. Especially DT! This can increase record sales two-
fold: the gift you gave to a non-DT fan, and the albums this newly converted
DT fan goes out and buys with that Christmas doh from grandma!
-Scott (aka Tolk)
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 02:20:32 -0500 (EST)
From: SaVeur <jjens@portal.gmu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: *NDTC* I didn't write it
Message-ID: <199512070720.CAA26833@reactor.site.gmu.edu>
Michael (the Official YtseJam Christian spokesman) wrote:
>>"God only exists in the minds of humans" -jjj
>
>Jon:
first of all, it's: joHn. i think it's spelled correctly in my .sig... :)
>I think you have that backwards. The absence of God exists only in the
>mind of non-spiritual humans. One must realize we have at least 3
>areas of growth in our lives they we need to nurture.
hehe congradulations, Michael! you fell for it hook, line, and sinker; just
like a few other ppl/. what i was saying is that if humans didn't exist,
there would be no way of proving or disproving that God exists; we couldn't
know because we wouldn't exist. get it? it pretty hard to prove/disprove
something when one doesn't even exist.
> writes about the existance of God. You may say you are an atheist
> but I KNOW deep down in your soul (unless you're not human) that you
> know there is a higher power. In WFS "God give me the power...."
hehe guess i'm not human. so by >your< classification, what am i? yes, there
might be a higher power. it might me within me. it might not. and from what
i've seen, it's not this God/Jesus/HolySpirit entity that a large number of
ppl believe it to be.
> P.S. Jon do you celebrate Christmas or acknowledge Easter?
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
celebrate? yes, i give and receive gifts for the commercially exploited
Christmas. i don't celebrate anything. my folx might. i don't. well, i guess
i celebrate having new stuff :) Easter is just another day in spring. i
acknowledge that some ppl observe that day as a religious holiday or
wutever. just like i acknowledge that some ppl observe Yom Kippor (or
however one spells it) or the Chinese New Year or wutever.
Bafu wrote:
>"Men only exist in the mind of God."
this is the same as Penfield's "brain in vats" paradox. look it up in
_Labyrinths_of_Reason_ by William Poundstone. good reading and it'll give
yer brain an exercise :)
thus, i am officially ending this "thread" publicly. if ya wanna chat more
or try to convert me, email me privately. and sure, i'll read your ideas and
beliefs.
-john
j o h n j j e n s @ g m u . e d u
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n
s h t t p : / / w w w . s i t e . g m u . e d u / ~ j j e n s /
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 00:36:59 -0800
From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: I've found GOD
Message-ID: <199512070836.AAA11263@cats.ucsc.edu>
Yes, it's me, the perennial atheist. I've been awakened. I found God.
BAFU is GOD.
I worship at your feet.
~Chris
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Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 03:03:01 -0800
From: coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: YJAM digest 1179/Chris Crowder good point!/ Not bad for a BK employee. :)
Message-ID: <199512071103.DAA17311@ix10.ix.netcom.com>
Chris you wrote: in (>)
>>....stuff. This is not the Godjam or anything. If you're right about all this I
>>will fry in hell. If I am right, however, you will have lived your life a
>>self-righteous silly person. Most likely, we are both wrong and I will fry
>>in hell *and* you will actually turn out to have lived your life a silly
>>person.
>Allright, but I've only one thing to say to all that, and I want you to really
>think about it : "Better safe that sorry." (wouldn't you rather show a little
>respect to God than risk going to hel?)
>
>That's all I have to say.
>
> Chris
Well Chris you have a very good point. I guess I was going to say something to that
effect but with a little expansion. And here it is:
Wow what a gamble. I wager my short life (60-70 years), my existance on this
earth, against being labeled a "religious" and "silly" person for however
long I have to live (this could be the last day of my finite life only God
knows) because there are no guarantees of a tomorrow for any of us. Of course
Y'all know that. My reward: eternal LIFE with God and all the goodness that
comes with that relationship. I.e. no more heartache physical pain, the list
goes on....
Richard Karsmaker's gamble: He bets his existance both on this side of the grave
and the other side that there is no God. He lives the spance of his life again
the duration unknown and avoids being classified as a "silly religious" person
or whatever labels and stereotypes are in vouge and handy. Against eternal
life without the goodness of God and the amenities God has promised US. Man oh
man, what a risk! You're risking a speck of time against etenity. You're a
high roller. I'd like to see you in Vegas sometime to see if you apply the same
type of approach on the Blackjack tables.
If you were to ever meet me in person I think you'de retract some of the
lablels you have so freely used on me in your post. I'm not "religious",
or silly. Unfortunatly my intentions are lost and the color of my posts are not
conveyed as I would like them to be because 1. I'm not a writer and 2. a lot
of my messages come out in black and white and there's more to it than that.
I'll respond with more detail personally off the jam. In the mean time keep an
open mind and think about the infinite length of eternity. It's mind boggleing!
God Bless,
Michael C.
P.S. Explain to me how I appear condesending and self-righteous. Thanks for the
input.
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