YTSEJAM digest 677

Date: Wed Feb 01 1995 - 03:21:32 EST

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: Marillion
      2) Re: Sacto concerts???
      3) Re.Defending FW
     by John B Ashcraft <>
      4) A Story About Fates...
      5) "Worst" DT song, Mirror and Tori/KaTe
      6) The Doc
     by (Erik)
      7) Re: Yngwie
     by (Ken Bibb)
      8) Re: Guitar Question
     by "T.Higuchi-Marketing Training" <Takaaki.Higuchi@Japan.Sun.COM>
      9) Radio 1 on Tue 7th Feb 1995
     by "Mr R.J. Chinneck" <>
     10) No DT for punishment, Planet Music
     by Ytsejam <>
     11) Re: DT T-Shirt Man's Poem
     12) Summary? on hate-song
     by (Henrik Gustafsson)
     13) Musical tastes
     by William Kriski <>
     14) Re: Meanstreak
     by James Bako <>
     15) reRe: More FW
     by (Henrik Gustafsson)
     16) Re: Yngwie
     17) Re: Guitar Question
     18) Re: 6:00's rhythm
     19) to all german ytsejammers
     by (Alex Reinelt)
     20) Re: Guitar Question
     by (Hank Marquardt)
     21) Re: nuthin' really
     22) Marillion.
     by (Mark Tiplady)
     23) Re: YTSEJAM digest 675
     by "Eric Atkinson" <>
     24) Covers concert review type thing


    Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 21:37:09 -0500
    Subject: Re: Marillion
    Message-ID: <>

    T>>Definately get either Misplaced Childhood or Clutching at Straws.
    Both are excellent!<<
    W>>definitely Script for a Jester's Tear<<
    R>>I think Misplaced Childhood is the best way to get into Marillion. If you
    like it then get Script for a Jester's Tear, Fugazi, and<<

    It's all well and good that you're trying to help out a Dream Theater fan by
    suggesting these Marillion titles, but "Brief Encounters," "Misplaced
    Childhood," "Script for a Court Jester's Tear," and "The Thieving Magpie" are
    out-of-print. I know this because I started listening to Marillion back in
    November or so. I decided to check the Muze at Tower, and I got the complete
    discography and notes (which is how I came to discover this fact.)
     Currently, I have everything, except those albums and "Seasons End." Email
    me privately if you can help out. Thanks!


    "Could we see clearer in a virtual reality?" * Magellan

    "I am the beat of your pulse, the computer word made flesh." * Queensryche


    Date: Tue, 31 Jan 95 19:38:28 PST
    Subject: Re: Sacto concerts???
    Message-ID: <9502010338.AA00105@teng6.fmt>

    > Well, when I'm not listening to something from my immense musical collection,
    > 93 Rock is one of the stations I listen to. (In fact, you may remember my
    > mentioning 93 Rock as the thing that got me into harder rock in a past
    > post...) And, hey, who's gonna complain when they just played QR's
    > "Operation Mindcrime" in its entirety last Sunday! : )

            And the 2112 CD this past Sunday!

    > Anyhow, I was serious in saying that San Francisco fans could really help in
    > drawing the band here. I was really disappointed to get passed over like
    > that - my husband and I would have gone to *both* shows, had they played
    > here!

            Ditto. All of my friends (whom I've converted) live in
            the foothills above Sac. We go down there quite often to
            see shows, and they come all the way down here as well.
    > And I have to ask this: Zach, were you the guy who requested "more Internet
    > stuff" after the SF show? (And the one to solicit the ACoS scoop?) I'm a
    > shy Ytsejammer - and one of the few females who stuck it out after the show.

            No. I was there, however. I was the tall bespectacled dude
            with a goatee wearing my black ytsejam shirt and the white
            tour hat backwards (which I got signed by DT and all of Fates
            sans the bassist). By a miraculous twist of fate, I got
            on the Fates tour bus after everyone left and had a drink
            with Mike Portnoy. (just thought I'd rub it in !>)>
            I, too, was in awe enough to ask Mike just a few general
            questions dammmit! I asked him how the new album would
            sound and he told me "Industrial Bluegrass!"

    > I was the one in all black, aside from a blue flannel shirt, with the tall
    > dark blonde guy in an "I&W" tee. I was too awe-struck to say much to any of
    > the band members!
    > Jen
    > *****************************************************************
    > "Could we see clearer in a virtual reality?" * Magellan

            I picked up IA last week. Very good stuff. Kind of
            like Yes, ELP, DT and Queen all had a jam session and
            this was the result!
    > "I am the beat of your pulse, the computer word made flesh." * Queensryche
    > *****************************************************************



    Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 22:56:23 -0500
    From: John B Ashcraft <>
    Subject: Re.Defending FW
    Message-ID: <>

    at the ignorance. Opinions are one thing but scientific facts are

    another. 'Perfect Symmetry' is right up there with 'Moving Pictures' or

    'Dark Side of the Moon'!!! NO shit!!!! Everyone - GO GET 'PERFECT


    Perfect symmetry is a good albumc but IMHO it is nowhere near as good as Moving Pictures. It is Rush's masterpiece and thou shalt be dmamned to hell for that blasphemyu.:-)
    Just kidding. But seriouly it just isn't as good. I just have one word for you Tom Sawyer, Red Barchetta, Lime light, YYZ, and The Camera Eye. Just my .02.
    Sorry for being a huge Rush head.



    Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 21:40:07 -0500
    Subject: A Story About Fates...
    Message-ID: <>

    Hello, all! All this talk about individuals not being able to get into Fates
    Warning has reminded me of the story of my husband's exposure to Fates...

    Back in San Diego (where he's originally from), one of his musical friends -
    my husband plays drums - was always digging up new stuff to listen to. This
    friend played some tape for Keith, and Keith really disliked it. Well, the
    friend left a dub with him anyhow.

    A couple years or so pass by...

    Keith returns to San Diego to be involved with the friend's wedding. Out of
    gratitude, the friend gives Keith a tape. The tape happens to be "Perfect
    Symmetry." He gives it a listen and gets hooked. (First time I've heard
    them, and I'm hooked as well.)

    By now, he's met his future wife <g>, and she has a CD player. So, they
    begin collecting Fates CDs. (At one point, getting depressing because
    everything we like seems to be out-of-print! Thank goodness for re-issues!)
     In merging the two music collections, Keith re-encountered the dub. The
    tape? "Perfect Symmetry"!

    So, if there's to be a moral in this tale, it is to *keep listening*! Some
    music is catchy, and we love it immediately. Other things need to grow on


    "Could we see clearer in a virtual reality?" * Magellan

    "I am the beat of your pulse, the computer word made flesh." * Queensryche


    Date: Tue, 31 Jan 95 11:27:23 -0800
    Subject: "Worst" DT song, Mirror and Tori/KaTe
    Message-ID: <>

    Innocence Faded is my least favorite DT song along with Another Day. I don't
    think that IF is just a good rocking song. For me, the good (but simpler for
    DT standards) rocking song is Pull Me Under. Now that one really ROCKS! The
    only part of IF that rocks is the last part of it which doesn't seem to have
    any connection with the rest. Seems like they just stuck it there to make it
    worthy putting on the album. I also don't particularly care for 6:00 and
    Caught in a Web. I guess imho Awake has more weaker points than I&W.

    Also I have a question about Mirror lyrics. The line "how the hell could you
    possibly forgive me, after all the hell I put you through", the "hell" right
    after another "hell" always gave me this strange feeling. I thought it was
    a weaker point of lyrics. What about "how on earth could you possibly forgive
    me, after all the hell I put you through"? I'm not saying it's better but I
    really don't know, my English sucks anyways. It's just a thought.

    Reading all the discussion about Tori here, I just wanted to say how much
    some of her songs remind me of KaTe Bush compositions. For example, when I
    listen to Precious Things off Little Earthquakes, it sounds to me like
    something KaTe would write 12 years ago. I am refering to the musical aspect
    rather than lyrical here. This one is my favorite Tori song anyways, but
    then I'm absolutely fascinated by KaTe. I have been listening to her for
    the last 15 years or so but she has been around for much longer than that.
    She started recording at the age of 14 in 1973 at David Gilmour's home studio,
    under his direction. She's an amazing artist. KaTe was the one who paved
    the way for a lot of current female solo musicians, and Tori always gives
    her a huge credit, while very few modern listeners do.
    Oh, and Jen says that Kevin is a huge KaTe fan too! *plug* ;)

    Ciao everybody,

     "Ahh yes to yes ahh ahh to yes
      why the sun why the sun..." Kinga Dytkowska -


    Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 23:27:24 -0600
    From: (Erik)
    Subject: The Doc
    Message-ID: <>

    Hey Doc...

    Lighten up on your little Fates Warning kick...we're all sick of it.

    Who are you to tell us what to like and dislike? Who are you to tell me
    and others on Ytsejam to "clear the wax out of our ears?" Who are you to
    tell us how to listen to music? Buddy, it doesn't work like that.

    Calm down just a bit, my friend.

    P.S. AND...I love Pantera, so there.



    Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 00:32:18 +0800
    From: (Ken Bibb)
    Subject: Re: Yngwie
    Message-ID: <>

    > From:
    > Does anyone know of an Ynwie Malmsteen mailing list?

    Myra ( Wong's list of music mailing lists does not list
    a list for the arrogant one :)

    Ken Bibb		"Upon a wave of summer	 A hilltop paved with gold	 We shut our eyes and make the promises we hold"
    				David Sylvian--"Wave"


    Date: Wed, 01 Feb 1995 19:28:19 +0900 From: "T.Higuchi-Marketing Training" <Takaaki.Higuchi@Japan.Sun.COM> To: Subject: Re: Guitar Question Message-ID: <9502011028.AA25829@ugougo.Japan.Sun.COM>

    Jarrod Ramsey-Lewis writes: > but he also used another black and > white guitar. To the untrained eye, it appeared the only difference was > that the black and white guitar had silhouettes of the faces which appear > on JP's normal guitar painted on it. Am I missing something here? Why did JP > change guitars? That's the 7 strings guitar, which has low-B additionally. It's used at playing Mirror, Lie, and Caught In A Web. Using it, JP can get much heavier sound than normal 6 strings

    cheers, T. Higuchi


    Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 13:10:34 +0000 (GMT) From: "Mr R.J. Chinneck" <> To: (D.T.Mailing List) Subject: Radio 1 on Tue 7th Feb 1995 Message-ID: <>

    Dear all,

    Just to say that if you can pick up BBC Radio 1 on AM radio or if you are in the U.K. on FM of course then Dream Theater are live in session on Radio 1 next Tuesday evening with Bruce Dickinson at 9:00pm, I am going to record it so if you can't cos you're too far away then send me a message if you want a copy, hope this is exciting for you cos it sure is for me,

    see ya, Rob Chinneck,

    Tel: U.K. 0151-794-7186


    Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 10:15:00 -0500 (EST) From: Ytsejam <> To: Cc: Multiple recipients of list <> Subject: No DT for punishment, Planet Music Message-ID: <>

    Ytses... I just moved across the hall and my new roommate doesn't have a CD player. This sucks because that means no DT until I go home and get mine. I also borrowed FW's "Parallels" from my brother and was trying to get into it. Guess I'll have to wait on that. the guy who mentioned getting Magellan material from the store Planet Music: I just ordered "Impending Ascension." And since I have the discount card, it will cost $11.95. So you CAN order Magellan and other progressive metal material from this store..........later.

    ***************************************************************************** Brandon E. "6:00 and the siren kicks in from a dream"

    "No one can hear when you're screaming in digital" - Queensryche

    "You say you want everyone happy. Well, we're not laughing." - Dream Theater (Scarred)

    "I quote the immortal words of Socrates who said, 'I drank what?'" - Val Kilmer (Real Genius) ******************************************************************************


    Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 10:48:33 -0500 From: To: Subject: Re: DT T-Shirt Man's Poem Message-ID: <>

    I agree it has been a long ass time since I sent money for those T-shirts and I am about ready to recieve them!



    Date: Wed, 1 Feb 95 17:26 NFT From: (Henrik Gustafsson) To: Subject: Summary? on hate-song Message-ID: <>

    Hi again After reading the talking about DTs good/bad moments I (think) I have figured out a concept: Most of the things that *we* dislike is parts where LaBrie is singing. And this fits into my point of view too. I can't say why, because when I first heard LaBrie ( on I&W ) he sounded awful. But on AWAKE I tend to like the parts where he is quiet most: end of IF, Erotomania, between Mirror/Lie, end of Scarred and so on. I think you folks out there share my opinion ( for a change )

    Be Good

    Henrik Gustafsson Dream Theater Drottninggatan 62 c 7 Q94 Toni Holgersson 461 33 Trollha:ttan IE-91 Just D 0520-155 98 070-719 89 64 & 070-814 24 38 Fish


    Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 09:55:53 -0700 (MST) From: William Kriski <> To: Subject: Musical tastes Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9502010927.B8200-0100000@casual1>

    I know everyone's probably sick of hearing about Fates Warning, but I feel bad for those few who said they didn't like them and got flamed pretty bad. I know everyone is entitled to their opinion, but it shouldn't be based a just a few listens. When we buy a band's most recent CD, we are expecting it to be good and have an open mind. Hell, we might even overlook some cheesy parts because we want to like it so much.

    I found the new Queensryche very disappointing at first, but now I enjoy about 70% of it. With FW's Inside Out, I was also disappointed, but now I love it. Even Awake "took some time" to really grow on me. You have to play it enough times to remember everything and know what's coming the next time you listen. I think some of my disappointment with FW and QR was that they seemed so mellow at first (as compared to previous albums), not just based on distorted guitars, but also lyrically.

    My 2 cents,

    And P.S. I love 6:00 especially the bluesy/chromatic keyboard/guitar part!



    Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 01:25:22 -0500 (EST) From: James Bako <> To: Subject: Re: Meanstreak Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9502010017.A11490-0100000@barney>

    On Tue, 31 Jan 1995, Robert C Devereux wrote:

    > Sorry about the non DT content, but it is somewhat related. I was > wondering if anyone could tell me anything about Meanstreak (what style > they play, are they any good?). > >

    Although Meanstreak have called it a day, it is definitely a related topic, since they have gigged with DT and because Rena (guitar) is married to JP and Marlene (bass) to MP.

    I saw them once, about 2 yrs ago. I guess you could classify (ugh, that word) them as power metal (Iron Maiden, etc.) combined with thrash influences. From what I remember, they were quite good, even though I didn't realize who they were until I read about them.

    James Bako Polytechnic University Brooklyn, New York


    Date: Wed, 1 Feb 95 16:55 NFT From: (Henrik Gustafsson) To: Subject: reRe: More FW Message-ID: <>

    Hi Thank you John C. Jens, Jr for letting me take so much of your time. Sorry. I didn't know it was such HOT POTATO to you I now understand that FW is holy to you, but for me they're not.

    All I wanted to say is that FW ( InOut ) wasn't at all giving me the First Impression that other bands had made, such as: DT, Magellan, Psychotic Waltz, Anekdoten, Fish, A:nglaga'rd, older Genesis,,, Of course I know that music grows on you, but for me FW started low.

    And thank you Doc for your "listening guide". Perhaps FW will make a better impression on me, if I follow your advice.But they had only this one of FWs CDs in my store. and I definately won't buy one of them without listening first.

    Enough said: Be Good

    Henrik Gustafsson Dream Theater Drottninggatan 62 c 7 Q94 Toni Holgersson 461 33 Trollha:ttan IE-91 Just D 0520-155 98 070-719 89 64 & 070-814 24 38 Fish


    Date: Wed, 01 Feb 1995 11:01:28 -0400 (EDT) From: To: Subject: Re: Yngwie Message-ID: <>

    >Also, I'm getting sick of reading all this garbage about bashing particular >songs (Innocence Faded, Lie, etc.). Doesn't anyone ever just sit back and >enjoy Dream Theatre's music without analyzing the heck out of it? Why is it >that it's not cool if it's doesn't switch time signatures every bar? I guess I >think you people need to just take in Dream Theatre's music as a whole instead >of part-by-part. After all, these guys ARE the best band in the world, right? >Hope I didn't piss too many people off! >Mike

    Quit your bitching. The rule is: if you don't want to read it, skip it, but don't bitch about it. And BTW, John Petrucci would kill you if he saw you repeatedly spell Dream Theater wrong.



    Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 10:47:32 -0500 From: To: Subject: Re: Guitar Question Message-ID: <>

    The songs that he used this guitar on were Caught in a Web, The Mirror, and Lie. This is because it is a 7-string guitar. It has an extra low-B string added for a heavier sound. Try listening to those songs again, you will probably notice that it is very low. It is so low it almost sounds like a blur.



    Date: Wed, 01 Feb 1995 11:18:47 -0400 (EDT) From: To: Subject: Re: 6:00's rhythm Message-ID: <>

    >other than erotomania...6:00 is the MOST progressive piece on the new album... >it is definitely one of my favorites and IMHO there is no such thing as CHEESE >in this song...just try counting along with it...or more so... TRY PLAYING IT...some of the

    >Counting it is rather fun (and not all that hard, actually) >7/8 4/4 (8/8 ?) 7/8 9/8

    >Headbanging to it live was a rush ;) >(4 - 3 - 4 - 4 - 4 - 3 - 3 - 3 - 3 : at the speed this is going

    I don't see it this way. I can play 6:00 on bass (most of it) and 99% of the song is in 4/4. The accents are just in weird places. This song is definitely not as progressive as Voices, Scarred, Erotomania, as far as timing. You should have been able to headbang normally to this song, except that your head would be off the accented notes about every other measure. I don't know, this seems relatively simple to hear, I'm not sure where you came up with that scheme.



    Date: Wed, 1 Feb 95 15:12:50 MET From: (Alex Reinelt) To: Subject: to all german ytsejammers Message-ID: <>

    Please spread this information within those DT-Fans who will be at the concert in munich on the 4th Feb:

    DT will be in WOM Store in Sonnenstrasse from 14.30 to 15.30 giving autographs.....

    And: just bought the SILENT MAN CD-Single. Its got the TTT-Demo Track and EVE on it......again nice surprise for all of us who bought the expensive japanese import cd...............

    bye, Freak

    ( Alexander Reinelt from Munich/Germany - freakmarked since 1987 ) Alex_Reinelt@2:2480/66 ( fax:(++ 49 89) 689 18 71 voice:(++ 49 89) 68 33 40 ) "Belief will always save me" (Dream Theater - "Scarred")


    Date: Wed, 01 Feb 1995 12:30:16 -0600 From: (Hank Marquardt) To: Subject: Re: Guitar Question Message-ID: <>

    >white guitar. To the untrained eye, it appeared the only difference was >that the black and white guitar had silhouettes of the faces which appear >on JP's normal guitar painted on it. Am I missing something here? Why did JP >change guitars? > Most times, it's so they can be tuned backstage by the road crue, also a spare is a necessity in case you break a string.

    But there are other reasons; depending on construction, type of wood and pickups/electronics, guitars will sound and feel different to the player.

    Other times, its just because it looks cool. I must say though that JP does not change as often as many guitarists.

    Hope that helps.


    Date: Wed, 01 Feb 95 10:40:35 -0800 From: To: Subject: Re: nuthin' really Message-ID: <>

    To Mr. Zebrowski and Mr. Herring,

    Please plase please, I beg you, hit the return key once in a while during those long sentences. Those long lines make it really difficult to read and just make me want to skip your posts all together (which I'd really hate to do :) Your cooperation would be greatly appreciated. Thankoo.


    _______________________________________________________________________________ "Ahh yes to yes ahh ahh to yes why the sun why the sun..." Kinga Dytkowska - _______________________________________________________________________________


    Date: Wed, 1 Feb 95 19:11 GMT From: (Mark Tiplady) To: Subject: Marillion. Message-ID: <>

    In-Reply-To: <> Brandon (and anyone else wishing to get into Marillion),

    Difficult question! I've been a Marillion fan since 1982 and love everything they've released. Trouble is that they've put out such a diverse collection of material it's hard to know what to recommend :)

    My instincts tell me to go with Misplaced Childhood. This album shot Marillion to the 'A' list over here in Europe and is still widely regarded as their best work and will give you a good idea of what the band were like while Fish was still with them.

    For post-Fish material check out Brave. This album is an amazing return to form after the 'pop' material on Season's End and Holidays In Eden (the brave concerts they did over here were simply AWESOME).

    Good luck!



    Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 14:17:50 EDT From: "Eric Atkinson" <> To: Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 675 Message-ID: <>

    thank god someone else in the ytsejam finally shares my opinion of FW! when i first joined this list, i thought i must of mailed the wrong address! somehow, i thought, i must have joined a FW mailing list....because that's all everyone was talking about. So...after taking the advice of several person's opinions of their best album, i rushed right out and bought Parallels AND Symmetry. Needless to say, i was VERY dissappointed. Yes, they do have good technical musicianship (much like DT), but unlike DT, the songwriting left much to be desired. well, that's my $.02

    --------------------------------------------------------- We're only immortal, for a limited time Rush ---------------------------------------------------------


    Date: Wed, 1 Feb 95 15:12:12 GMT From: To: Subject: Covers concert review type thing Message-ID: <>

    Hiya guys and gals, more news and v

    Oh sod it, I'll get straight to the point for once :)

    Last nights covers concert was one of the most amzing and enjoyable experiences of my humble life. You're all gonna have to forgive me for not knowing the names of songs they played, but I'll try and get down all the bands that they covered stuff from...

    First thing you should know is that the club is SMALL. Hell, there are bigger bars here at my university. This created a really fun, if somewhat cramped, atmosphere. There must have been about 300 people crammed into the place. Apparently, one group of people who had invites got turned away due to fire restrictions. They'd travelled about 300 miles too. Bummer.

    After 20 minutes of free alcohol, Vanessa Warwick (MTV Europe presenter, and all round blue haired, air headed, bimbo-slut) stepped up to the mike and said some rubbish about how good the night should be, as if we didn't know... Then, the band walked out through the crowd onto the playing area. To call it a stage would be gross flattery. I believe James' words were "Erm..this should be interesting". For the next hour they played music like you rarely get the chance to be in on. It was like being at a recording session, or a garrage jam. James was reading lyrics of a piece of paper for a lot of the songs, but that certainly didn't make it any worse. I've never seen a band enjoy themselves so much. John Petrucci was smiling the entire time at various members of the audience (including me), even John Myung was smiling. Mike, as always, looked like Animal on speed. I couldn't see Derek, but he sure sounded like he was having fun. Awesome Hammond organ patches :)

    Let's see, they played some Led Zep, some Deep Purple, some Rush (what a surprise), some U2, which they cocked up at first. James got the timing wrong, and everyone had a good laugh about it, Petrucci picking the set list up and pointing out what he should have been doing. They did the first part of a Tori Amos song as well (the one that goes "When you gonna make up your mind...") much to the pleasure of the audience. Jame's managed it all at the same octave as Tori does (!) and Derek did a superb job on the keys.

    The first guest on was Barney from Napalm Death (the infamous t-shirt!!). He sang (?!) along to Damage Inc by Metallica after James complained he never got to do any of the fun songs (awww!). It was pretty funny really, coz no-one seemed particularly taken with the death-metal singing style. He got the second biggest round of applause for the night though :) John was using his 7-string for this one, and yes, it's exactly like his 'faces' 6 string, but in black and white. The whole band were lapping up the heaviness. They loved it.

    Next up was one of the guys out of Marillion, the singer now that Fish has left I think. John P. introduced him as one of the greatest singers he'd every heard, and James said something about knowing how to make a guy feel really good about himself. He then sang a duet. I don't know what the song was, but I don't think it was Warm Wet Circles. Then they asked Steve Rothery to come up and they did Easter (I think that's what it's called..?) which apparently "They put together during the soundcheck" It was definately one of the highlights of the night, and note perfect.

    Next up was Steve Howe and his fender. This, for me, was one of the most intense musical experiences I will ever have. They played a medley of early Yes stuff totally instrumentally. They did bits from the whole Close to the Edge album, some other stuff whose name escapes me, and ended on a ten minutes plus jam on the Wurm chords. As on The Yes Album, they built it up for about five minutes and the Steve let rip with the solo. Even thinking about it now is sending shivers up my spine. And then John P had a go, then Steve came back in, and then they spent the next five minutes trying to out-solo each other, smiling all the time. It was simply incredible. The applause that went up when they finally finished was worthy of an arena audience. John P went over to the microphone and simply stuttered "Er..Steve Howe..!"

    James came back in saying how they should have ended on that (He's right, they should've) and went into the finale which was basically a medley of songs, including that song off the Wall, and a rousing rendition of Bohemian Rhapsody :)

    And then it was all over, they came back through the crowd, shaking hands as they went, people swooning left and right (kind of). A group of about 50 of us hung around outside to meet everyone as they came out (Ronnie Scotts doesn't have a stage door). Barney came out and was greeted by a barrage of football chants, coz his favourite club has just been knocked out of the FA cup. Incidentally, leading the chants was Phil wasisname who used to do Raw Power. Anyway, they all went off to get pissed, coz Barney was buying. Steve Rothery and his girl came out next to call a cab. People seemed more interested in getting his wife's autograph (understandable if you've seen her:) but he was really nice and chatted for a bit.

    Derek came and signed things next and chatted about how nice a bloke Kevin is, how much he likes England and general stuff. He said Fates are definately playing at the Forum next month :):):) He disappeared somewhere and John Petrucci came out with Steve Howe in tow. He only got the chance to sign a few things and then he got whisked away to do a photo shoot (for MTV, I think). James and John M. came out together, but John managed to escape off to the photo shoot in seconds. James was really friendly and chatted about how rushed the show was, but it was fun. He says he loves Queen, and Tori Amos is a "very tallented lady", but he seemed a bit uncertain of that last bit, like it was something he should say, not something he really meant :)

    Mike was the last out and was meant to be going to the photo shoot as well, but he didn't feel like it and thought someone was meant to be coming back for him anyway, so he stayed and signed stuff. What can I say but, what a great guy! He posed for a comedy photo with me, signed my WDADU liner and chatted for ages, even about Kevin's departure. The bad news is that Scarred is being shelved for the moment, but they'll do it on the next tour "If there is a next one!" The good news is that Eve is out in the UK next month. He seemed a bit uncertain about the Change of Season recording, but he still really wants to do it. He said that is anyone wants him (or John Petrucci) to do a masterclass, they should get in touch with their sponsors and arrange something. They're definately willing and available though. He's doing something like this when they're in Germany, so German 'jammers try and check it out if you can. Oh, and here's a message from him..

    "Ytsejam?...yeah ok! Tell the rest of the guys they should've been here. They missed a great gig!"

    So Nyah!:) I told him I was surprised he doesn't just tell us to sod off and stop being so nosey, but he said he thinks we're all really cool.

    And that was that. It was all over by 8.30, and I went and got some pizza.

    For those of you interested in recordings of the show... someone with MTV in Europe try checking out HBB for the next few weeks. I'm sure they'll do some of it. There were quite a few cameras and things pointed at the stage, and the outside recordings van was outside the club, so we should get some stuff out of it. Derek wasn't sure why they'd done it though, or what it was in aid of.

    If anyone wants to flame me for not recording it, then go ahead if it'll make you feel better, but I have no experience of recording gigs, had no intention of trying to smuggle something in only to get chucked out by the bouncers (how pissed off would I've been..:), didn't want to fart around with a walkman when I wanted to enjoy the show, and haven't got any money to buy a walkman with, even for one night. I owe my bank 500 pounds as it is. There, that's my excuse :)

    Sorry for this being such a long post, but I figure it warrants it. If anyone else has more detailed info on the set list, PLEASE, PLEASE post it. I'd be as interested as anyone else.

    Later folks,


    "For the first time in a long time...It's about music."


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