YTSEJAM Digest 695
Today's Topics:
1) Re. under a glass moon
by John B Ashcraft <jbashcra@uncc.edu>
2) Re: Faith No More
by Stephen O Boyd <boydso@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu>
3) Any DT stuff for sale
by "Steve M. Bauer" <smb9733@sjfc.edu>
4) Non-DT content. Leviathan
by "Steve M. Bauer" <smb9733@sjfc.edu>
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 690
by khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson)
6) Queensryche show
by borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk
7) Re: Under a Glass Moon
by Jarrod Kamsey-Lewis <jarrodk@up.edu>
8) CD's with all good songs
by <laferrie@bashful.usmcs.maine.edu> (Kevin R Laferriere)
9) Re: Faith No More
by Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca>
10) Non DT: FNM
by an241@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joe Jurczyk)
11) Re: Make info available through WWW
by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
12) RE: Faith No More
by Jean-nicolas Poussart <ejp2570@Umoncton.CA>
13) Re: Metal Blade Records
by Rob Weychert <weyc9212@kutztown.edu>
14) CDs with all good songs
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu>
15) Re: Any DT stuff for sale
by EMRST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu
16) Re: Non-DT content. Leviathan
by EMRST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu
17) Re: Under a Glass Moon
by William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
18) pay-per-view and qryche singles
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
19) Kevin Moore dub site (SE)
by James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
20) Re: MR. BUNGLE / Faith No More
by James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
21) Re: Under A Glass Moon (interpretation)
by James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
22) question
by Slick Doggy Dawg <polzin@meibm11.cen.uiuc.edu>
23) Re: K. Moore's demos & Me :)
by AirDance@aol.com
24) Re: Kevin Moore demos
by AirDance@aol.com
25) Re: Moore Demos
by AirDance@aol.com
26) Gebralter Encyclopedia of Prog Music...
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
27) Satch's Master of the Art
by esa2@cornell.edu (Mr. Phat)
28) Re: WDAJU person?
by Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
29) Re: question
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
30)
by
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 10:12:04 -0500
From: John B Ashcraft <jbashcra@uncc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re. under a glass moon
Message-ID: <199502101512.KAA04770@unccsun.uncc.edu>
That sounds like a pretty good interpretation. It's a guy who had a near death experience and at the end he sees the light at the end of the tunnel and god's hands. (like all of the typical death stories.)
Trey
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 10:44:59 -0500
From: Stephen O Boyd <boydso@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Faith No More
Message-ID: <199502101544.KAA05632@white.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu>
Rob Weychert was talking about Faith No More and said,
> I only have "The Real Thing" and "Angel Dust" (their last 2 albums);
> I'm thinking about getting their earlier ones, but I've heard they're
> not worth it, the newer stuff with Mike Patton is much better. Can
> anyone offer any advice on this?
I am a big fan of FNM, and I like all their albums, including their first
two ("We Care a Lot" and "Introduce Yourself") with Chuck Moseley (sp?) on
vocals. I would have to say that I like the Mike Patton stuff a lot
better than the Chuck stuff. However, I do have to say that once I got
used to Chuck's vocals (which are veeeeery different from Patton's), I
really like "Introduce Yourself", and "We Care a Lot" is ok too, although
not as good, IMO. Incidentally, I don't think "We Care a Lot" is
available on cd.
> Also, I heard that Jim Martin
> (guitarist) has left the band; can anyone disprove or confirm this--does
> anyone know if Faith No More is still together?? I haven't heard
> anything about them since "Angel Dust" which was nearly 3 years ago...
> Any info would be appreciated! One last thing: What can anyone tell me
> about Mr. Bungle, Mike Patton's other band? I want to check them out,
> too.
Well, I'll answer these last two questions together, since they're
connected. It is true that Jim left FNM (I can't remember why); however,
FNM is still together, they have replaced Jim with Scummy (whose real name
escapes me at the moment), who is the guitarist for, yes you guessed it,
Mr. Bungle. I personally am sorry to see Jim go, but I am eager to see
what Scummy has in store for FNM. I am unsure whether Mr. Bungle is still
together, or put on the shelf, or what. Mr. Bungle has only one album
(self-titled), but I am sure there are boots out there somewhere (which I
would love to get ahold of 8)... Anyways, Mr. Bungle is one of those
bands whose music is hard to describe. The closest I can come is to say
this: on "Angel Dust", Patton's Bungle influences are apparent; listen to
"The Real Thing" and "Angel Dust" back-to-back and maybe you'll see what I
mean.
I gotta go to class, so I'll catch you all later...
Stephen
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 11:49:45 -0500 (EST)
From: "Steve M. Bauer" <smb9733@sjfc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Any DT stuff for sale
Message-ID: <Pine.3.88.9502101153.C6669-0100000@sjfc.edu>
Does anyone have any DT bootleg stuff that they want to sell. I am
interested in videos also. Seeing as I don't have anything to trade IO
would be willing to pay for some good copies of video shows or audio
shows. Thanks for your time.
Steve Bauer
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 11:54:21 -0500 (EST)
From: "Steve M. Bauer" <smb9733@sjfc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Non-DT content. Leviathan
Message-ID: <Pine.3.88.9502101147.D6669-0100000@sjfc.edu>
Does anyone have any comments on the band Leviathan? I read an interview
with their two guitarists describing them as a DT/Fates clone. I am
interested in buying their cd, DEEPEST SECRETS... If you have or have
heard this album please post a review. Thank you for your time.
Steve Bauer
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 95 12:04:00 MST
From: khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 690
Message-ID: <9502101904.AA14420@nyx.cs.du.edu>
Hey, I just got Dance of Eternity!!!!
Is anyone else's case broken? Pisses me off... Where can I get a
replacement 2CD case?
Anyway, it's amazing! Blows "Dream Out Loud" away...
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 95 19:43:53 GMT
From: borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Queensryche show
Message-ID: <9502101943.AA11303@tanadak.dcs.gla.ac.uk>
Well, last night was the Queensryche show . . . .
No support. Just Queensryche :)
Started great, faster stuff from Promised Land and Rage For Order, etc,
then about half of Mindcrime, followed by a couple from Empire.
Then . . . . boredom. The slow dull plodding ones from Promised Land, including
the song Promised Land itself. Not good for a live setting!!
Encore was Silent Lucidity and Someone Else, the latter featuring Chris DeGarmo
on piano, with some extra cymbal splashes and lead guitar (no bass).
These two songs were an awesome end to the night!
Without a couple of the less energetic songs towards the end, the concert would
have been perfect!
Graham B.
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 12:12:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Jarrod Kamsey-Lewis <jarrodk@up.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Under a Glass Moon
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950210120750.506D-100000@upsun22.up.edu>
That is some good insight, but I don't think it is right. I'm not
sure what is right. I think the song is about marrige and the doubts that
often run through one's head before marrige. Has this been discussed
before? Anyone else have an idea of what this song is truly about?
About my radio show, "Night of Dreams," in all honesty I don't
think there was a very large audience. I still like to think there was,
but I would be surprised if thirty people heard my show. WE are a small
school.
Jarrod Ramsey-Lewis
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 14:40:33 -0500
From: <laferrie@bashful.usmcs.maine.edu> (Kevin R Laferriere)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: CD's with all good songs
Message-ID: <9502101940.AA06246@bashfull.usmcs.maine.edu>
Queensryche - Operation : Mindcrime
Dream Theater - Images and Words
Dream Theater - Awake
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 12:11:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Faith No More
Message-ID: <9502102011.AA11168@malibu.sfu.ca>
>
>
> Well, I'll answer these last two questions together, since they're
> connected. It is true that Jim left FNM (I can't remember why); however,
> FNM is still together, they have replaced Jim with Scummy (whose real name
> escapes me at the moment), who is the guitarist for, yes you guessed it,
> Mr. Bungle. I personally am sorry to see Jim go, but I am eager to see
> what Scummy has in store for FNM. I am unsure whether Mr. Bungle is still
the latest i've heard (last monday) is that the new fnm album is coming
out soon (this month or next), and that Scummy is the guitarist on it,
but will not be touring with the band.
Bungle is also supposed to have an album coming out soon.
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 15:16:41 -0500
From: an241@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joe Jurczyk)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Non DT: FNM
Message-ID: <199502102016.PAA13433@kanga.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Rob Weychert asked about Faith No More's status.
FNM is still alive and well and coming out with a new album next
month: "King For A Day....Fool For a Lifetime". Jim Martin was
indeed sacked. Guitars on the new album were played by Trey (?)
also known as Scummy from Mr. Bungle. However, he decided that
the megaworld tour responsibilities weren't for him and he has been
replaced by a guy (forgot the name) who was a guitarist for the
band Duh! (or is it "Duh ?"). He used to be a techie for the band.
Anyways, I got that info from the FNM/Mr. Bungle mailing list
called Caca Volante. If anyone wants, I'll dig up subscription info.
(It's a majordomo list run at Pitt.)
There's only a few bands who have made an immediate impact on me. (A
good one, that is...) DT was one of them, and Faith No More was one
them. (If anyone cares, the others would be Queen - back in the mid 70's,
the 80's version of King Crimson - Belew, Fripp, Levin and Bruford, and
the Dan Reed Network.)
..Joe Jurczyk, an241@cleveland.freenet.edu
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 12:27:42 PST
From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Make info available through WWW
Message-ID: <199502102027.MAA12044@netcom12.netcom.com>
>I was just thinking: When something cool happens in the world of DT and
>someone got a good recording, pictures etc, why don't we present it on
>some WWW-pages. I'm sure there are several people with WWW-pages and
>some spare Megs of disk-quota who would be able to do this. For example
>if someone recorded some stuff from video, radio which is hard for
>everyone to get hold of, and it is good and stuff that most people would
>enjoy to hear, I think in some cases it could be arranged so that the
>songs or pictures were put up on WWW.
>
>I don't know his name, but there's one guy who has put up some good
>scanned pictures from the last two tours, this is a very good idea.
>Maybe we can follow his example.
>
>I have just got a regular 10 mb student-account but for the most time I
>have got at least 6 mb unused that I could use to have samples and other
>stuff on. I haven't got very much DT-stuff except for some boots and the
>demos but if I get more stuff I can maybe put up some things. I'm
>thinking about having one complete song, changed weekly if I have got the
>time. Y'know, if some people did this, jammers in the forgotten parts of
>the world (non-USA) could easily hear songs that all you DT-experts talk
>about, without sending packages all over the world (postage is expensive
>when you're a student).
>
>Maybe someone has already got lots of stuff uploaded, I just know
>of the sites with Boot-lists, FAQ etc.
>
>Anyone else with more ideas on this?
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> / Mats Rydstrom - d94-mry@nada.kth.se - http://www.nada.kth.se/~d94-mry /
> /-----------------------------------------------------------------------/
> / "We can hope for the future, though there may not be one" - ACOS /
>/_______________________________________________________________________/
>
>
>
I've got tons of pictures! Just no audio cause you'd be amazed at how
much space that takes up!
check the .sig!
-The Doc
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 15:56:09 -0300 (ADT) From: Jean-nicolas Poussart <ejp2570@Umoncton.CA> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: RE: Faith No More Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9502101545.A18531-0100000@bosoleil.ci.umoncton.ca>
To whomever posted the Faith No More letter:
I also have both The Real Thing and Angel Dust and find them to be excellent, but have never bothered to buy pre-Real Thing, for the simple reason that I've heard a song, and don't like it that much. Mike Patton is much better as vocalist. Second, Jim Martin has indeed left Faith No More, for what reason I don't know, but they have found a replacement (name slips me) and their new album should be released sometime next month, or shortly thereafter. I believe it's titled something like 'King For A Day, Fool For A Lifetime', or just plain 'King For A Day'.
As for Mr. Bungle, I have never heard it myself, but heard that Kirk Hammett (Metallica's lead guitarist) plays on it??!?! So, I have no idea what kind of music it is. Hope this helped.
****************************************************************************** "It's Not A Waste of Time If You're Wasted AT The Time"
"Hypocrite - How could you be so cruel and expect my faith in return?" - Dream Theater
Vinny - ejp2570@bosoleil.ci.umoncton.ca ******************************************************************************
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 15:31:21 -0500 (EST) From: Rob Weychert <weyc9212@kutztown.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Metal Blade Records Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950210152952.10861A-100000@atlantic>
Metal Blade's E-mail address: MtlBldRcds@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 15:59:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: CDs with all good songs Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.950210154954.42467B-100000@moose.uvm.edu>
Here's my list of CDs that contain all incredible songs in no paticular order of preference. I doubt that anyone here will concur with my opinions, but here goes:
Lillian Axe- Poetic Justice Dream Theater- Images and Words Richard Marx- Paid Vacation (no, really) Mitch Malloy- Self-titled Poison- Flesh & Blood Warrant- Dog Eat Dog Tonto Tonto- Mirror for the Blame Gin Blossoms- New Miserable Experience Nelson- After the Rain (I just destoyed my credibility, right?) Skid Row- Slave to the Grind
BTW, to the Faith No More fan, even though I can't stand these guys, I can confirm that a) their guitarist quit and b) they're recording a new album.
Richie
"I drank what?" -Socrates
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 16:26:34 -0400 (EDT) From: EMRST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Any DT stuff for sale Message-ID: <01HMW2RAUETW8Y6A72@vms.cis.pitt.edu>
>Does anyone have any DT bootleg stuff that they want to sell. I am >interested in videos also. Seeing as I don't have anything to trade IO >would be willing to pay for some good copies of video shows or audio >shows. Thanks for your time. > > Steve Bauer
I have an extra Live in Tokyo video tape that I'd be willing to dish off. I bought it a couple of months ago, and then C-man sent out those promo packages to us with the LiT video included. I think they run about $15-20 in stores, so I'd be willing to get rid of it for around $10.
The only reason I posted this to the whole list and not directly was in case Steve wasn't interested, anyone else could jump on it.
Later KAI
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 16:29:25 -0400 (EDT) From: EMRST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Non-DT content. Leviathan Message-ID: <01HMW2WHJL168Y6A72@vms.cis.pitt.edu>
>Does anyone have any comments on the band Leviathan? I read an interview >with their two guitarists describing them as a DT/Fates clone. I am >interested in buying their cd, DEEPEST SECRETS... If you have or have >heard this album please post a review. Thank you for your time. >
Also, if anyone has a contact address for this band, please post it, cuz I'd like to get a promo copy to air on my radio show.
KAI
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 18:57:35 -0500 (EST) From: William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Under a Glass Moon Message-ID: <kjCzpjG00YUzMUVUwe@andrew.cmu.edu>
This space left intentionally blank Organization: Aepithex (guitars)
Jarrod Kamsey-Lewis <jarrodk@up.edu> writes: > That is some good insight, but I don't think it is right. I'm not > sure what is right. I think the song is about marrige and the doubts that > often run through one's head before marrige. Has this been discussed > before? Anyone else have an idea of what this song is truly about?
nobody's ever taken a stab at it on here. i dont consider 'star trek' an explanation.
under brooding skies and watchful eyes-william-bajzek-impaler@cmu.edu on convulsive seas of false urgency-----http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu we walk empty corridors in vain--------derek-------.edu/usr/wb2a/home -cds for sale: http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/u/wb2a/cdsale.html- guitars, not-very-impressive backing vocals, and songwriter, aepithex
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 19:33:08 -0500 (EST) From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: pay-per-view and qryche singles Message-ID: <199502110033.TAA12227@umbc9.umbc.edu>
Hi all! Has anyone out there heard any more about the DT pay-per-view show? It aired a few weeks ago but the sound was poorly mixed. It was then supposed to be re-mixed and aired again. Did any catch it this time around? Did they play anything cool in the set?
Also, I have some new Queensryche singles for sale.
I am I CD single. ( Track list : I am I, Real World, Dirty Lil Secret, someone else? (full band version!!) ). It also includes some color pictures and a 3D tri-ryche pic with 3D glass.
I am I 12" vinyl single. ( Track list : I am I, Real World, Someone Else? (full band version) ). This one is a on a gold colored record and includes two full size color prints.
E-mail me if interested.
************************************************************************** * Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu * * * * You're fighting the weight of the world, * * and no one can save you this time. * * Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. * * * * "Take the Time" - Dream Theater * **************************************************************************
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 19:46:11 -0500 From: James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Kevin Moore dub site (SE) Message-ID: <Pine.DYN.3.91.950210194244.3386C-100000@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
Once again, I am an official dub site here in the SE U.S. However, since I have not gotten too many requests, i'll pick up the slack for the rest of Earth. Wait a few weeks, and if a dub site does not spring up in your area of the world, i'll help you out. You just need to send me a pre-addressed and postage paid mailer and a blank 60-minute tape and i'll dub the KM demos for you.
Jay Peele 6556 Fern St. Green Cove Springs, FL 32043 USA
jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu INFERNO
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 19:55:48 -0500 From: James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: MR. BUNGLE / Faith No More Message-ID: <Pine.DYN.3.91.950210195121.3386D-100000@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
I'm a huge Faith No More fan but Mr. Bungle is absolutely incredible. Mr. Bungle is more crazy and daring than FNM. I think both bands have new albums coming out within the next few months.
With Mr. Bungle, you get everything! (humor, versatile music, noise, interludes, horns, insanity, etc.) Check 'em out if you dare!!!
Jay Peele INFERNO For info on INFERNO or the Kevin Moore demos, e-mail jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 19:59:33 -0500 From: James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Under A Glass Moon (interpretation) Message-ID: <Pine.DYN.3.91.950210195809.3386E-100000@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
When I asked JP what that song was about, he said that the meaning was not as important as the imagery. He did say it was about someone who worships the moon!
Jay Peele (INFERNO)
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 19:08:14 -0600 (CST) From: Slick Doggy Dawg <polzin@meibm11.cen.uiuc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: question Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.90.950210190650.21326A-100000@meibm11.cen.uiuc.edu>
I was at Tower Records and noticed that i could order Dance of Eternity and THE Dance of Eternity. I was wondering if these were two different boots or what. They were the same price and there were no catalog numbers to compare. Thanks. Later.
Ed
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 20:15:46 -0500 From: AirDance@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: K. Moore's demos & Me :) Message-ID: <950210201542_18374669@aol.com>
Dr. Mosh <drkhoe@netcom.com> said:
>>>Let's all give a hand to Jennifer for making all those copies... phew... and getting them out as quick as she did...<<<
:) Thanks, Doc.
This wouldn't be possible without all of you volunteering your time to make copies and without Kev being such a nice human being also, of course. :)
I especially would like to extend my gratitude to the dubbers here who have offered to give away free DT stickers & other neat-o stuff like that to the people they dub for too. That's above-and-beyond the call of duty, folks, and very generous of you. But I'd like to think that that's what this is all about, the spirit of giving, and it's really nice to see. *applauds all of you* :)
Jennifer <airdance@aol.com>
"I'm not dying, but I think I'll lay back anyway no welcome, but I think I'll stay..." Kevin Moore/_Even The Waves_
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 20:16:08 -0500 From: AirDance@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Kevin Moore demos Message-ID: <950210201607_18374915@aol.com>
Brent Phillips <panther@paprika.lcs.mit.edu> asked:
>>>I'm a bit confused by some of the dub site postings. I was under the impression that, since we (the dub sites) got the tapes essentially "for free" from Jen, that we should not be expecting anything in return.<<<
This is true, none of the dubbers should _expect_ to get anything other than a blank tape/mailer/return postage for their services. But I also left open the trading option since many of the dubbers DO trade tapes a lot as well. But no one should _have_ to trade with anyone to get a copy of the demos, they should just be able to send them a blank tape, etc., if that's all they have to offer, and NO ONE should be refused because they don't have anything to trade in return. I don't want anyone selling these demos for more money than the cost of a blank tape/mailer/return postage and I don't want anyone treating them as a trading "rarity" which demands two or more tapes in return for this one tape.
I want the dubbers to be able to trade the demos also, if they're interested in that kind of thing, because I think this might be a good way for DT fans who don't have any other rarities/bootlegs, but would _like_ to start accumulating them, to do so. I hope this little experiment works, so let me know if your collections grow. ;)
Unfortunately, I can't "police" this project, so to speak, because there are too many people involved, but I would like to think that everyone who volunteered is going to be fair about this and not try to weasal their fellow DT fans or tell them they can't have a copy because they don't have something to trade in return. At least, I hope not. :) If anyone runs into this kind of behavior, please let me know. As I also mentioned in the FAQ, Kev has been nice enough to give these demos to everyone for _free_ although he's put considerable time, effort & $$$ into recording them, so I would hope that everyone here would respect that and follow his generous lead. :)
>>>Yet there seem to be some posts implying that the dubbers expect to receive extra blank tapes or other boots in return.<<<
I hope that this is not the case. If there are any dubbers asking for more than a blank tape/mailer/return postage for the demos or more than the equivalent of a one tape trade, they are NOT being fair, so I would urge you not to deal with them and to also let the YJ population know what they are doing because this kind of behavior does _not_ coincide with the spirit of this project.
>>>I just thought that we should try to be consistent so that me and the other dubbers who don't expect anything but return postage don't get swamped with making all the copies. :)<<<
This should not happen, as long as the dub sites are being fair to everyone & making copies for anyone who asks.
Hope I cleared that up!
Jennifer <airdance@aol.com>
"I'm not dying, but I think I'll lay back anyway no welcome, but I think I'll stay..." Kevin Moore/_Even The Waves_
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 20:21:11 -0500 From: AirDance@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Moore Demos Message-ID: <950210202042_18374739@aol.com>
Bean <bean@dcs.rhbnc.ac.uk> commented:
>>>Can we please, please, please have a dub site or two in the UK. So many people over here want to hear this stuff too.<<<
There will be two UK dub sites opening up shortly! We will post here when they're ready, don't worry! But I think we're going to need more than just two dub sites there (we don't want to overwork these two nice volunteers now, do we? :), so I would appreciate it if any of you UKers (or any Europeans who can also dub for the UK) who may be able to dub but haven't come forward yet would e-mail me to offer your services. :) Thanks in advance!
Jennifer <airdance@aol.com>
"I'm not dying, but I think I'll lay back anyway no welcome, but I think I'll stay..." Kevin Moore/_Even The Waves_
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 21:55:45 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam SERVER) Subject: Gebralter Encyclopedia of Prog Music... Message-ID: <199502110255.CAA08426@pearl.cs.brandeis.edu>
I just was reading today's NMS, and I saw a reference to the Girbralter Encyclopedia of Prog Music, as mentioned here... Anyway, the reference in this case was to their home page... So I checked it out (and added a link to my prog metal links from my home page) and checked their D section, and the DT reviews are VERY good and EXTREMLY positive... check it out... You can get to it from my music page, or directly through http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk:80/~philkime/gepr.html
-- +----------------------------------------+----------------+---------+ | And I'll smile and learn to pretend | Dream Theater | Michael | | And I'll never be open again | Space Dye Vest | Burstin | | And I'll have no more dreams to defend |-----Awake------+---------+ | And I'll never be open again | Pgh Penguins: 9-0-1 | +----------------------------------------+--------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu http://cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 22:51:19 -0500 From: esa2@cornell.edu (Mr. Phat) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Satch's Master of the Art Message-ID: <v02110106ab619dc2dcd7@[132.236.236.160]>
Hey all,
I heard someone say that Joe Satriani has an album out called "Master of the Art". Now wait. I have the "Satch Files" (his video) and they show all the albums, and there is no mention of this one. Please, please, if you have any idea where I can get my hands on this please let me know. I'll settle for a tape copy. Don't leave me hanging......
-Eric esa2@cornell.edu
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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 95 22:05:39 PST From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: question Message-ID: <9502110605.AA29378@tengs1.teng>
> > I was at Tower Records and noticed that i could order Dance of Eternity > and THE Dance of Eternity. I was wondering if these were two different > boots or what. They were the same price and there were no catalog > numbers to compare. Thanks. Later. > > Ed
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Dance of Eternity, 1994, CD (Luxumburgh) Rocks 92111 1 CD recorded in Buffalo, May 18, 1993. This is a radio broadcast. It is a little different of "Dream out loud" because it features the full version of "Learning to live" (cut off on DOL) and "Eve"! ::13,14,2,15,17,50,46,10,9,18,16.
The Dance of Eternity (Italy) 1993, 2CD (Why Not? Records WOT2014/15) 2 CD's - Soundboard or AUD DAT, possibly the best DT boot available. Recorded at the Limelight, New York, March 4 1993 ::13,1,14,12,3,17,11 ::18,9,10,39,4,19,15,16
Z.
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