YTSEJAM Digest 711
Today's Topics:
1) Re: spelling
by jjens@osf1.gmu.edu (John Jens, Jr.)
2) Re: corruption in the goat herd
by William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
3) FYI:TAB books in Japan
by "T.Higuchi-Marketing Training" <Takaaki.Higuchi@Japan.Sun.COM>
4) Re: corruption in the goat herd
by Ricky Booth <rbooth@galaxy.galstar.com>
5) Don`t Look Past Me
by goebel@inf.fu-berlin.de (Ties Goebel)
6) ytse-jam-t-shirt
by basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de (Bernd Basmer)
7) Re: James Joyce
by "PAUL PERGER" <Paul.Perger@uibk.ac.at>
8) Re: Fwd: JESTER
by Greg "Big Brother" Lee <greg@aix.can.ibm.com>
9) Re: Ytse Convention
by basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de (Bernd Basmer)
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 710
by Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
11) buttheads and get-togethers
by John Mastin <jmastin@motown.ge.com>
12) Fwd: JESTER
by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
13) Dream Theater not Dream Theatre
by PBERESFO@EOS.WINCOM.NET (Paul Beresford)
14) Hey DT FANS!!
by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
15) Other Thoughts...
by Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
16) corruption in the goat herd
by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
17) Re: My Reviews
by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
18) DT will always Headline....I hope!
by STEVE SMITS <SMITSM@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu>
19) Re: YTSEJAM digest 710
by scott eric bell <scebell@indiana.edu>
20) Re: DT on Howard Stern!!
by jbako01 <jbako01@barney.poly.edu>
21) Re: corruption in the goat herd
by John B Ashcraft <jbashcra@uncc.edu>
22) Thoughts . . .
by "Brian J. Wherry" <WB81%LAFAYACS.bitnet@lafibm.lafayette.edu>
23) DT reference in my school newspaper...
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
24) Ytse Con, Other bands, Yes, etc...
by Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
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Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 02:28:22 -0500
From: jjens@osf1.gmu.edu (John Jens, Jr.)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: spelling
Message-ID: <9502220728.AA17348@gmu.edu>
>> > Guess what?! No one at my ENTIRE school has ever heard of Dream
>> > Theatre!!! Doesn't That Suck!
>> ^^^^^^^
>>
>> This IS the way it was spelt on the inside of the WDADU packaging. I think it
>> was at the start of the lyrics for A Fortune In Lies . . . it said
>>
>> 'Music By Dream Theatre'
>
>This is also the way Fates Warning spells it in their "Special
>Thanks to:" column on their Parallels album. Kinda funny, eh?
>
> Chuck
hmm....i wonder why Fates is spelled Fatez Warning(Jus'kiddin'!!) in I&W?
anyone? anyone?
later, again,
john
..............................................................................
John C. Jens, Jr. "You could make a choice,
jjens@gmu.edu but you never learned to think."
http://www.site.gmu.edu/~jjens/ -Fates Warning
..............................................................................
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Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 07:33:44 -0500 (EST)
From: William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: corruption in the goat herd
Message-ID: <YjGmwca00YUzI2858f@andrew.cmu.edu>
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Organization: Aepithex (guitars)
sloppyjoe69@oal.com writes:
> Sloppyjoe69
^^
says it all right there.
but you sleep like a ghost with me -william bajzek- come to my madness
its as simple as that -http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu- my opium den
so tell me i'm mad -/u/wb2a/home--/cdsale-/reviews- come to my madness
roll me up and breathe me in -guitars,aepithex- make sense of it again
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Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 21:57:44 +0900
From: "T.Higuchi-Marketing Training" <Takaaki.Higuchi@Japan.Sun.COM>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: FYI:TAB books in Japan
Message-ID: <9502221257.AA09492@ugougo.Japan.Sun.COM>
Well, a few enthusiatic guys gave me several questions about
the TAB books available in Japan. (Especially Brandon! :-)
I'd like to summarize the informations of the books, but I'm not
ready for your requests to send these to overseas. I'm too
busy now. Even if you send me such requests, it will be stacked
in one of my e-mail folders, sorry. (I have 939 ytsejam messages
unread in my e-mail folders :-(
T.Higuchi
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In general,
- those books are written by anonymous musicians in Japan
- full band score(guitar, vocal, keyboard, bass, drums)
- not all of the songs are included. see below list in detail.
- guitar and bass have both notation and tab
- those are distributed in Japan only, because of its legal
agreement, I guess.
- comments are written in Japanese, but not much comments
- currency is $1=97yen or so now.
In Awake book,
- 7 string guitar is converted to 6. And also one octave
higher than real notes, so it is recommended in the Japanese
comments to use pitch-shifter(or octaver).
- 6 string bass is also converted to 4, and one octave higher,
so also need pitch-shifter(or octaver).
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When Dream And Day Unite(ISBN4-401-34751-X) 2,987Yen
A Fortune In Lies
Status Seeker
Ytsejam
The Killing Hand
Afterlife
Only A Matter Of Time
Images And Words(ISBN4-401-34738-2) 2,987Yen
Pull Me Under
Another Day
Take The Time
Surrounded
Metropolis-part I
Under A Glass Moon
Wait For Sleep
Awake(ISBN4-401-34804-4) 3,502Yen
6:00
Caught In A Web
Innocence Faded
Erotomania
Voices
The Silent Man
Lie
Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
Scarred
Space Dye Vest
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Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 07:34:30 -0600 (CST)
From: Ricky Booth <rbooth@galaxy.galstar.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: corruption in the goat herd
Message-ID: <199502221334.HAA17750@galaxy.galstar.com>
> third, there is a tendency to "ride the bandwagon" in regard to new material
[SLANDERING OF AWAKE DELATED]
> because it is truth.
>
> you all have failed the human litmus test. i hate you and i hope die.
You know, I actually thought this post meant something, I actually
thought it had content of some sort, a real opinion. Ah, but you see, it
comes from AOL. Nevermind.
--
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_____(_)____/ /__ #########/ Rick Booth; rbooth@galaxy.galstar.com /~###
/ ___/ / ___/ //_/ #######/' "Loss of intrest, question, wonder /~#####
/ / / / /__/ ,< #####/' waves of fear, they pull me under." /~#######
/_/ /_/\___/_/|_| ###/'_The Frayed Ends of Sanity_ / Metallica /~#########
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Date: Wed, 22 Feb 95 11:36 MET
From: goebel@inf.fu-berlin.de (Ties Goebel)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Don`t Look Past Me
Message-ID: <m0rhEQw-00004pC@inf.fu-berlin.de>
Who wrote "Don`t Look Past Me" ???
Ties
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Date: Wed, 22 Feb 95 13:06:18 +0100
From: basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de (Bernd Basmer)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: ytse-jam-t-shirt
Message-ID: <9502221206.AA04772@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de>
Hi all!
Well, there's another question.
A few digests before (can't remember the number of it...) somebody
wrote that James LaBrie wore an YTSEJAM-T-SHIRT. Is there an
official T-shirt for the subscribers of this list???
If yes, where can I get it?
Bye.
Bernd.
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Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 14:46:10 +0100
From: "PAUL PERGER" <Paul.Perger@uibk.ac.at>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: James Joyce
Message-ID: <A37809759C@subz-nov.uibk.ac.at>
> From: kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
>
> 6:00 (Dubliners "The Dead")
>
Hi, Jammers,
my name is Paul and I'm quite new to this list - in fact I've been
reading your contributions for a few weeks - and got to know that I'm
not the first Austrian jammer - Servus!
about Joyce: Is it possible that the quotes "6 o'clock on a Xmas
morning" and "I know all about the honour of God, Mary Jane" are
samples from the film "The Dead" by John Huston? The voices sounded
very familiar to me when I saw the film two weeks ago.
Have fun, Paul
PS: I saw DT in Munic - fantastic show!
+----------------------------------------------------------+
| Paul Perger, Woergl, Tyrol, Austria, Europe |
| E-Mail: paul.perger@uibk.ac.at |
| |
| Maybe this world is another planet's Hell. (A.H.) |
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Date: Wed, 22 Feb 95 8:56:48 EST
From: Greg "Big Brother" Lee <greg@aix.can.ibm.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Fwd: JESTER
Message-ID: <199502221356.IAA05942@hal.mkm.aix.can.ibm.com>
> I JUST WANT TO SAY HI TO ALL DT FANS AND THAT I'M A NEW SUBSCRIBER.
>
> I JUST WANT TO SHARE SOME INFO ON MY BAND JESTER, WE'RE A FOUR PIECE BAND
> FROM WINDSOR ONTARIO (CANADA) , WE'VE BEEN TOGETHER FOR SIX YEARS WITH
> THE SAME LINE UP AND TOURED ACROSS CANADA AND THE UNITED STATES . WE'RE
> CURRENTLY SIGNED WITH MEGA ROCK, A COMPANY FROM SWEDEN, AND HAVE
> DISTRIBUTION ACROSS EUROPE AND JAPAN. IN EUROPEAN MAGS. THE REVIEWS SAY
> WE COMPARE WITH JOURNEY, RUSH, QUEENSRYCHE AND DREAM THEATRE. WE GOT VERY
> GOOD RATINGS ON OUR CD TITLED"IT'S TIME" . IF YOU WANT TO KNOW MORE INFO
> ON THE BAND THEN YOU CAN E-MAIL AT MY PERSONAL ADDRESS (
> PBERESFO@EOS.WINCOM.NET) OR MY BANDS (JESTER@POBOX.WINCOM.NET). IF ANY
> ONE HAS SEEN US PLAY IN THE STATES PLEASE E-MAIL ME
>
> LATER , PAUL BERESFORD
Hey Will! Remember these guys!
Hey Paul, my buddy Will on this list out at U of Calgary and I
saw you guys at The Gasworks a few years back playing a lot of Rush and
Queensryche etc...a few decent sounding originals too. Stop spelling
Dream Theater wrong or we wont buy your CD! We kept waiting for another
appearance, but we must have missed it.
For all of you Wayne's World fans, yes, the Gasworks does
exist! It is a real bar...although I think it is hurting after
renovating it from the old grungy, skanky, head bangin' biker look!
Greg.
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Date: Wed, 22 Feb 95 14:51:34 +0100
From: basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de (Bernd Basmer)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Ytse Convention
Message-ID: <9502221351.AA07729@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de>
>
>Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 14:04:11 -0500 (EST)
>From: BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu
>To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
>Subject: Ytse Convention
>Message-ID: <01HNBAW12PXK000J8A@sgenva.CC.GENESEO.EDU>
>
>Hello ytsejammers, it's Babs. So far the response to my idea about a
>convention has been positive. I am still looking for lots of ideas/feedback.
>One ytse has suggested the possibility of having a ytsejam trade-show
>someplace to get everybody there and if the response is good, warrant a
>private show from DT for the ytse's and their significant others. I
>wonder if the guys would perform gratis (I know that that is considered a
>swear word to some bands, but isn't it for the love of music - not the cash?)
>Airdance if you are reading this, what do you think. Kick it over with the
>guys, do you think that we could get Kevin to come too? Feedback everyone,
>I need feedback!!!!!!!!!!! :) -BABS
>
>
Oh, all you lucky people sitting in the U.S.A. and going to meet eachother.
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Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 09:53:07 -0500 (EST)
From: Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 710
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.90.950222092703.18720B-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
> From: Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca>
> Subject: Re: DT on Howard Stern!!
> since dt is from the NY area (for the most part), why doesn't some
> latenight talkshow ask them to be on...somone like Letterman for
> example? that would be cool...
Probably because their songs are too long. =)
> I JUST WANT TO SAY HI TO ALL DT FANS AND THAT I'M A NEW SUBSCRIBER.
> LATER , PAUL BERESFORD
And I just want to say that typing in all caps is annoying. =)
> _Awake_ is the ultimate in generic progressive metal and the kevin
> moore demos truly eat it, yet these sheep praise them endlessly just
> like they were "the emperor's new clothes."
> Sloppyjoe69
To quote Mike Portnoy:
"We never set out to be a progressive band."
(from an interview I did with him via the phone about two years ago.)
Additionally, I should add that when I was back on FidoNet's
Prog/Rock SiG, I removed myself because the operator felt that Dream
Theater was NOT a progressive band, just a metal band with good chops.
And, besides that, they didn't come out in the '60's or '70's, so, they
weren't. Silly, eh?
So, I ask you: what specifically do you find "generic" about it?
What, that there's time signature changes, key changes, strange chord
voicings, extended jams, tempo changes?
That's just a partial definition of what "progressive rock" is.
I mean, let's get serious here - there's only so many boundaries that can
be broken. If you look at Zappa's truly wierd Synclavier work ("G-Spot
Tornado" and the like), you have to realize the only way it COULD be
realized was WITH a computer. Humans are only so capable, even Zappa's
musicians - believe me, Frank didn't play with any wankers.
Something "original" in a world where everything's been done
before? I mean, come on! That guy who did that song "I love you period"
(Dan something or other...) was asked why his songs were so simple and
similar to each other.
His reply: "Well, there's only 12 notes that can be used. How many ways
can you rearrange them? And chances are, if YOU think of it, someone else
already has."
Besides, like I always say: If you don't like it, do better.
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Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 09:36:04 -0500
From: John Mastin <jmastin@motown.ge.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: buttheads and get-togethers
Message-ID: <199502221436.JAA23908@cybertron>
I think Babs has a good idea. Eventhough it may not be possible for a
national get-together but why not regionals?! Long Island sounds OK for
me. I live in NJ and would take the road trip. I have a friend that would
go too. He was the one who got me hooked into DT. I print out everyday's
Ytsejams so that he can read them and keep up on what it going on. He doesn't
have a computer nor Internet access but I guess you could say that he is
a member! It would be nice to put some faces to the people we email to. :D
As for the high brow butthead who called us all mindless sheep, undoubtedly,
you did this to start a flame war. I am one of your pseudo-intellectuals but
at least I am intelligent enough not to fall for your childish-temper-tantrum-
for-attention. You probably already unsubscribed. You great mastermind you.
Nothing like running into a crowded fire and yelling *Theatre!* Ha, ha, ha.
In case you didn't know, that was a joke, just like your post, IMHO. Yeah,
I think I can go and jump off of a bridge just because somebody who calls
themself *Sloppyjoe69* says that they hate me and I should die. The Ytsejam
is presented as an open forum in which people can express the thoughts
and ideas that impact them. The common thread that we ALL share is that we
are all fans of Dream Theater.
You, *Sloppyjoe69*, have failed the common human decency test. I don't
hate you but I think that if you are that unhappy, you should think about
unsubscribing.
Regards,
Johnny
(as known to my friends on Ytsejam or for you highbrows, John Mastin, Jr.)
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Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 07:55:51 MST
From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Fwd: JESTER
Message-ID: <82E3CC68B5@UCS.ISU.EDU>
>I JUST WANT TO SHARE SOME INFO ON MY BAND JESTER, WE'RE A FOUR PIECE
>BAND FROM WINDSOR ONTARIO (CANADA) , WE'VE BEEN TOGETHER FOR SIX
>YEARS WITH THE SAME LINE UP AND TOURED ACROSS CANADA AND THE UNITED
>STATES . WE'RE CURRENTLY SIGNED WITH MEGA ROCK, A COMPANY FROM
>SWEDEN, AND HAVE DISTRIBUTION ACROSS EUROPE AND JAPAN. IN EUROPEAN
>MAGS. THE REVIEWS SAY WE COMPARE WITH JOURNEY, RUSH, QUEENSRYCHE AND
>DREAM THEATRE. WE GOT VERY GOOD RATINGS ON OUR CD TITLED"IT'S TIME"
^^^^^^^
>. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW MORE INFO ON THE BAND THEN YOU CAN E-MAIL AT
>MY PERSONAL ADDRESS (PBERESFO@EOS.WINCOM.NET) OR MY BANDS
>(JESTER@POBOX.WINCOM.NET). IF ANY ONE HAS SEEN US PLAY IN THE STATES
>PLEASE E-MAIL ME
>LATER , PAUL BERESFORD
Welcome aboard, Paul!
I do believe I have heard of your band, I can't remember where...
Have you ever toured in the Northwestern US? BTW, don't spell Dream
Theatre this way. John Petrucci doesn't like it. (Sorry about
flaming you on your first post). You'll see many people get hacked
for this one in the future.
Chuck
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Date: 22 Feb 95 09:53:44 EST
From: PBERESFO@EOS.WINCOM.NET (Paul Beresford)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Dream Theater not Dream Theatre
Message-ID: <44424B2F016C1173@-SMF->
Sorry for the spelling error was in a hurry to send message out , should
of proof read first . I will next time since everyone gets upset about
that kind of thing.
Later , Paul
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Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 08:01:01 MST
From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Hey DT FANS!!
Message-ID: <82FA4F55E5@UCS.ISU.EDU>
>-I've heard so many good things about Fates Warning, but I've never
>listen to them, so if I like MARILLION, DREAM THEATER, CAMEL, YES,
>and similar bands which recording of FW do you recommend?
>Thanks guys!!!!
>Andy
The only FW album I have heard and liked so far is Parallels. I
can't stand their earlier stuff. I haven't heard their latest,
either, but I really love Parallels. I've listened to it over and
over again since I bought it two days ago. (Hey, it has JAmes LaBrie
doing backups on Life in the Still Water, too)
ChucK
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Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 10:03:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Other Thoughts...
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.90.950222095312.18720C-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
One of the things I found interesting about the LiT video were the band's
comments about how "Another Day" hadn't been accepted by MTV.
Why? Well, the third time I talked to Mike, some label person was trying
to shoosh everyone out, because they had the video in the bus. Now, THAT
would've been cool, but, no. =)
ANYWAY:
Why I originally started saying this has escaped me, but, suffice it to
say that "AWAKE"'s heaviness did not suprise me in the least. I should've
really seen it coming after the video (and especially that intro of TTT
winding up turning into "The Mirror").
I'll share a little label info with ya'll: They're not happy with their
current sale rate. However, if they'd picked a different single, things
might've turned out better.
I got a copy of the album back in the 1st week of september, '94. Nice to
have friends who intern for their label, eh?
Anyway, I listened through it, and pretty much thought that "Innocence
Faded," or "6:00" would be great lead off singles, followed by maybe
"Caught In A Web" and "The Silent Man." Well, once again, Atlantic makes
a bad call. They took what they percieved to be the 'heaviest' yet still
'commercially viable' song, and put it out.
Now, what they, in their infinite wisdom, and constant attempts to bend
over for MTV, did not see was the fact that most of the people who buy DT
albums are hard-core DT fans. Here they come, out with this song that,
honestly, is among my least favorite on the album, and my roommate tells
me, "They're ripping 'Lie' to shreds! They think it sucks!"
Oh, those brilliant people. =)
I should go get a job at one of those labels. Look what's coming out as
the next single. <grin>
Ah, THAT'S why I started writing this! I knew I'd remember. =)
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Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 08:25:23 MST
From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: corruption in the goat herd
Message-ID: <8361C26B98@UCS.ISU.EDU>
>furthermore, i have noticed a movement on this list which praises
>mediocre material (i.e. bon jovi, extreme, and van halen) with no
>relation to DT while talented musicians nlike cynic, thought industry
>and others remain conveniently ignored.
>third, there is a tendency to "ride the bandwagon" in regard to new
>material related to DT. for example, _Awake_ is the ultimate in
>generic progressive metal and the kevin moore demos truly eat it, yet
>these sheep praise them endlessly just like they were "the emperor's
>new clothes." god forbid that anyone should bring up any topic which
>portays these prog-metal gods in a bad light. I am not afraid to say
>that these are shitty pieces of music because it is truth.
>you all have failed the human litmus test. i hate you and i hope die.
Okay. This was a rather interesting post. Unfortunately, you
offended me Mr. Sloppyjoe69. I understand your concern for the
lacking DT material in many of our posts. We do talk about other
bands when information on the focus of our list is lacking
information. It just so happens that we enjoy listening to these
bands as much as we enjoy listening to Dream Theater and would also
like to discuss them among one another.
Now, the flaming begins.
First, upon my rebuttal, I have to ask...
What in the FUCK are you doing on this list, then?!? If you
don't like any of Dream Theater's music, don't join the Dream
Theater mailing list. Use common sense. Don't call us sheep because
we ALL enjoy the same thing. Fuck you. I bought Awake long before
and enjoyed it also long before I joined this mailing list. I bought
it despite the fact that I was one of the only people within the
nearest 100 mile radius to have even listened to Dream Theater. I
believe most of us can give you the same response. If this was just
a post for you to piss us all off, I think you really did it. If you
think Awake is shitty music, that's your problem. You have about as
open a mind as I do (re: the Fates Warning post). I'm not going to
say anything for that. I'm not going to flame you for telling us
Dream Theater is shitty music. But if you think we should be talking
about all of these DT poser bands that have not been able to make it
anywhere as of yet (Maybe because they suck? I don't know), you
should start the talking, not expect us to just bring them up. (an
angry tirade follows, but it would just bore the rest of you and
become a 20 page long post).
Going off,
ChucK
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Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 08:28:05 MST
From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: My Reviews
Message-ID: <836DBB4C14@UCS.ISU.EDU>
>You blew it Chuck. These two are way down on the list of Yes albums.
>When you wake up, go buy Close To The Edge or Relayer
>Andy
I figured as much. I just bought these cuz I found them in the $3.00
bin at my local music store. I still like 'em tho. Now searching
for the earlier albums....
ChucK
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Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 09:30:21 -0600 (CST)
From: STEVE SMITS <SMITSM@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT will always Headline....I hope!
Message-ID: <01HNCFKNVOZM00FD72@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu>
Date sent: 22-FEB-1995 09:23:45
I could not support DT opening for anyone on their next US tour.
I don't care if they opened for really cool bands like Rush, Yes, King
Crimson, or Pink Floyd....it would still suck. (Yes and Floyd don't have
openers anyway) They Must start the next tour in April and continue on
through the summer, playing outdoors a bit more when possible....headlining
with a half way decent opener. (So long as it isn't I Mother Earth again)
That's the way I want it to be anyway. It'd be cool if they did
SNL. That'd make me watch that show again....the writers are horrible this
year.
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*
* "All my life they said I was going down,
* But I'm still standing, stronger, proud.
* And today I know there's so much more I can be."
* - Someone Else? - Queensryche 1994
*
* *** Always interested in trading Kansas shows ***
* Steve Smits Smitsm@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu
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Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 10:53:39 -0400 (EST)
From: scott eric bell <scebell@indiana.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 710
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9502221055.A169-0100000@ezmail.ucs.indiana.edu>
Ok ok ok....
I've sat back and watched for ahwile now.... Yes, I am on the Megadeth
list...but I am not going to flame you all for wanting to have a Ytse
convention or get-together....because frankly, it's a great idea. I've
been getting (or in the process of) together with many of my friends from
the 'deth list....and it had worked out great. It is a great opportunity
to actually meet who you are talking to. So if it works out for you
guys...great. No flames headed your way from me......
Scott
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* email: scebell@indiana.edu *
* Homepage: http://silver.ucs.indiana.edu/~scebell *
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* Are just ripples in the pool" *
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Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 11:13:43 -0500 (EST)
From: jbako01 <jbako01@barney.poly.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: DT on Howard Stern!!
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950222111222.7205A-100000@barney>
On Wed, 22 Feb 1995, Tymoteusz Altman wrote:
> this also got me thinking.
> since dt is from the NY area (for the most part), why doesn't some
> latenight talkshow ask them to be on...somone like Letterman for
> example? that would be cool...
Because if you wan't to be on a late night talk show as a musical guest,
you're songs must be under 3 minutes, 'cuz that's all the time you're
alloted :) Guess we won't be seeing them on TV anytime soon.
James Bako
jbako01@barney.poly.edu
Polytechnic University
Brooklyn, New York
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Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 11:21:53 -0500
From: John B Ashcraft <jbashcra@uncc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: corruption in the goat herd
Message-ID: <199502221621.LAA08676@unccsun.uncc.edu>
Oh man you just better unsubscribe right now unless you have a death wishtl.
Trey
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Date: Wed, 22 Feb 95 11:21:16 EST
From: "Brian J. Wherry" <WB81%LAFAYACS.bitnet@lafibm.lafayette.edu>
To: <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Thoughts . . .
Message-ID: <22FEB95.12262969.0023.MUSIC@LAFAYACS>
A few things:
1) Mike Portnoy is a huge boxing fan. Mike Tyson is/was basically the
Mac Daddy of boxing, and since he's been put away, boxing hasn't been as
exciting. Mike just wants him back for that reason. Mike isn't into the
whole sexual assault thing, I'm sure!
2) Sloppy Joe- You really have a way with big words. Congratulations!
"Poppycock" is especially brilliant. One thing, though: You don't know
what the fuck you're talking about! I could use a bunch of big words to
describe quantum physics, but I still don't know anything about it! So
educate yourself a little bit about a given topic before you go and give
a lecture to the experts!!
3) Ytsejam convention? Awesome!
Just my $.02!
Brian
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Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 11:29:41 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam SERVER)
Subject: DT reference in my school newspaper...
Message-ID: <199502221629.LAA16520@opal.cs.brandeis.edu>
Wow... at least one other person in my school has heard of DT... and
I am impressed... :) One of my friends who is an editor on the
school paper asked me for the name of DT's drummer & bass player... I
was wondering why... so I checked out the paper, and someone did a
review of some CD (don't remember what) but whoever did the article
mentioned that their musical style was sorta like DT's, but that the
band was nowhere nearly as talented... So I found a 3rd person who
knows of DT. (I know of someone else also... but he's an asshole
(IMO))
--
+----------------------------------------+----------------+---------+
| And I'll smile and learn to pretend | Dream Theater | Michael |
| And I'll never be open again | Space Dye Vest | Burstin |
| And I'll have no more dreams to defend |-----Awake------+---------+
| And I'll never be open again | Pgh Penguins: 13-1-2 |
+----------------------------------------+--------------------------+
For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
http://cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html
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Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 11:34:08 -0500
From: Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Ytse Con, Other bands, Yes, etc...
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.90.950222110914.13461A-100000@umbc8.umbc.edu>
Wake Up!!
Just some comments:
Ytse Con
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I am surprised that this hasn't come up before. Thanks Babs for the idea
<grin>. I think if we pull this off it should be scheduled in the summer
sometime which would allow those working to take vacation and us college
types would be out of school (theoretically, I have had summer classes
before). Even if we can't get the band to perform it would be cool just
to have as many of them as possible hanging out there. I really don't
have any ideas for where it should be held I'd like it to be on the east
coast if possible (because that is where I am) if it isnn't I'm taking a
flight to get there most likely (though It would be cool to drive cross
country to California with a trunk full of beer and all of my DT boots
and albums. <grin>
Yes albums
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If you are getting into Yes for the first time I would get Fragile or
Close to the Edge, definitely my favorite albums by the group, they are
also considered to be the band's best by a large number of fans (though
Topographic Oceans usually ranks high). These two albums have Jon
Anderson on vocals, Steve Howe on guitar, Chris Squire on bass, Rick
Wakeman on keys, and Fragile has Bruford, Close to the Edge has White on
drums I believe.
Related bands
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Something that I just picked up, Asgard's Imago Mundi. Kinda one of
those D&D war type albums in concept, the songs are titled after various
lands in this realm ie Justice (Land of the Silver Drakkar) and Vulgarity
(Land of the Slimes). All of the pieces strike wonderful moods based on
the titles. Several of the early songs would be described as heavier
prog metal and many in the middle are more prog rock. It is hard to do a
song about Serenity and have grinding guitar parts. I just got to
Disharmony (Land of the Chasms) and this is a pretty heavy DTish song.
However I would recommend this to all fantasy role players for mood music
and to those who enjoy good keyboard influxed prog metal with a good
vocalist (the lead singer has an accent but you can still understand him,
kinda sings like Fish in his phrasing at times but his voice isn't similar).
This is on Music is Intelligence label out of Germany WMMS 028. Here is
the information:
World Dist. German Dist,
WMMS K.K. Music Shop
Zollstr. 6 Marienstr. 3
D-37154 Northeim D-35606 Solms
FAX: 05551/67383 FAX: 06442/23217
Or contact your favorite prog shop in the USA.
Later,
Mike
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