YTSEJAM digest 714

Date: Thu Feb 23 1995 - 09:48:37 EST

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: My Reviews
     by An Angel's Kiss... <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
      2) Again w/ the spelling?
     by zebrowski steven <>
      3) Wow!
     by John Mastin <>
      4) DT as opener & recent flaming
     by (Jon E. King)
      5) Re: corruption in the goat herd
     by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <>
      6) Re: corruption in the goat herd
     by Michael Bahr <>
      7) Kev demos
     by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <>
      8) Dream Theater info
     by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <>
      9) Stockhol gig
     10) Re: Tab Book
     by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <>
     11) PAL-to-NTSC, Pet Peeves
     by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <>
     12) Re: Kev demos
     by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <>
     13) Quick, Serious Question...
     by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <>
     14) Non-DT: Megadeth List?
     15) Fave Albums, Ytse-con, UK stuff
     16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 712
     by Hairball <>
     17) ftp archives?
     18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 712
     by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <>
     20) Ready to dub and other stories
     by (Mark Tiplady)
     21) Yet another KM dub site
     by Stephan Dobay <>
     22) Stockhol gig
     by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <>
     23) Re: Sloppyjoe69
     by Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
     24) Re: corruption in the goat herd
     by Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
     25) Re: Derek Sherinian in Wayne's world!
     by Special Darks <>
     26) Re: Quick, Serious Question...
     by Ricky Booth <>


    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 10:15:00 -0500 (EST)
    From: An Angel's Kiss... <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
    Subject: Re: My Reviews
    Message-ID: <>

    > These are my reviews on those discs I bought yesterday... (I'm
    > telling you all because you're the reason I bought them)
    > 1. Fates Warning, Parallels.
    > Very excellent. Believe me, I was quite surprised at the
    > singing and talent as compared to the other one I listened to. No
    > more flames for FW from me.

            Like was said many times before, it's really difficult to base
            an opinion on , especially if only hearing material with John
            Arch....hooray for you! :)

    > 2. Fates Warning, Perfect Symmetry.
    > I don't really like this one all too well. It will take some
    > more listening to like it more. If it weren't for Parallels, I would
    > have junked it.

            Again, as said before, is said to be the most progressive of
            the FW material, and really takes a while to get used to....blah,
            blah, blah....
    > 5. TNT, Knights of the New Thunder.
    > Quite good. I didn't listen to it as much. I played it at
    > work and got no response from my co-workers. I'll listen to it after
    > I finally get Parallels out of my system.

            Knights of the Thunder was TNT's first album, and didn't really
            impress me much...if you can, get either "Tell No Tales", which
            has a couple great songs (10,000 Lovers (in one), Listen to your
            Heart, etc.), definitely a TNT classic, or their newest one,
            "Realized Fantasies", which is also very good......

    > Thanks for introducing me
    > to some great new stuff,
    > Chuck

                                            Al Balkiewicz
                                            vocals, Half Naked
                                            coming to your neighborhood soon
                                            so bar your windows and lock your
                                            doors !


    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 10:58:12 -0500 (EST)
    From: zebrowski steven <>
    Subject: Again w/ the spelling?
    Message-ID: <>

    hello again!

    it rEally is getting silly w/ the big theateR Or "Theatre" debate. being sOrt
    of a lousy typist Myself, i just sort of overlook it <As i'm sure maNy of you
    do w/ my posts--kIdding!>. true, john petrucci doesn't like it, but since the
    /r/ And the /e/ are right next to eachother on the keyboard and many jammers
    are computer experts who fly across the keyboard at 100 mph, i think he'd
    understand. i'm not criticizing anyone--it's all meant good-naturedly and
    again the point is we all love dreem theotur.
    i knew no one would let sloppjoe69 go unpunished. it's commendable that you
    were all restained and eloquent in your flames-a courtesy sloppy joe obviously
    couldn't extend to us.

    regional ytse conventions would rule!

    steve z



    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 11:17:22 -0500
    From: John Mastin <>
    Subject: Wow!
    Message-ID: <199502231617.LAA25437@cybertron>

    Wow, is this a tight knit group!

    Sheesh, with all of the flaming this SloppyJoe69 created I hope he
    at least went out and bought a pair of asbestos jammies to sleep in. :)
    I wouldn't give two squirts of rat's urine to be in his shoes right now...

    As for flaming people for what type of internet connection they have, I
    think that it is wrong. Why judge the basket for just a few apples? People
    have choices in what they want to be in. Just like the church complaining
    about TV shows. Hey, this is America, if you don't like what is on, one knob
    changes the station and the other know turns the damn thing off! Well,
    Sloppyjoe69, you know what my next line would be...

    It's alright for everyone not to like everything the same. Some people don't
    like the new Kevin Moore demos. Some do. It's OK not to like them and it is
    OK TO like them. I don't think anyone puts together a piece of work and says
    to themselves *Everyone is going to like this* We wouldn't want DT to change
    their style just to appease the masses, now would we?

    So, Sloppyjoe69, if you are not enjoying the topics, please bring a new one
    up that YOU would like to talk about. (and I'm not talking about flames either.)
    I'm sure that there are a lot of openminded people here on this list that
    would talk about anything. I happen to like YJ for the link it has to other
    prog bands. Some of which I wouldn't have thought to try.

    I think I'll rotate a new sig into this one.


    MORE INFORMATION! Information is power. Power is sexy. Sex appeal drives
    curiousity. Curiousity drives the desire for MORE INFORMATION!!!


    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 09:47:14 MST
    From: (Jon E. King)
    Subject: DT as opener & recent flaming
    Message-ID: <>

    >>God forbid having Dream Theater as an opening band!!! That would
    >>really suck. especially for VH.

    I'm not sure how serious this thread is but Collective Soul is opening
    for VH (heard the ad on the radio yesterday). I kind of doubt Dream
    Theater would open for anybody, particularly a "standard" pop-rock band
    like VH. On the other hand, if they did, then maybe then they wouldn't
    cancel out on their Albuquerque show (like they did last November).
    I'm still kinda pissed about that...

    Regarding all the recent flamage and pseudo-flamage messages lately: I
    know a bunch of people are going to start screaming "Hey, it's an open
    forum and I can post whatever I want." But when you feel obligated to
    send a message correcting someone on the spelling of "Theater," keep in
    mind that at least a half dozen other people will too. And if you
    still feel that you need to respond to that or something like the
    SloppyJoe post (which everyone should have just recognized as a troll
    and ignored; instead he got exactly what he wanted out of it) then
    please spare the mailing list and use private e-mail. I can understand
    newcomers posting replies to the newsgroup but many of the messages
    were from people who have been on the net long enough to know better.

    Sorry if I've offended anybody, that wasn't my intent. And no, if you
    read what I really wrote, I'm *NOT* advocating censorship of the
    mailing list. But I don't think it's too much to ask for people to
    have a little consideration for their fellow ytsejammers instead of
    continually posting this sort of thing. As annoying as the trolls are,
    the replies are even worse (and yes, I understand that if I don't like
    them, don't read them -- but I still have to weed them out in my
    mailbox). Let's try to keep the ytsejam on constructive, intelligent
    discussion of Dream Theater and related topics -- not a lot of useless
    flamage where nobody benefits.

    And in the spirit of what I've said, if you have comments on this for
    me, then please direct them to *ME* and not the newsgroup -- chances
    are the majority of people on the list won't care to read them.

    See ya,


    * Jon E. King (      * "Advantages are taken,    *
    * Dept. of Electrical & Computer Engineering *  not handed out."         *
    * University of New Mexico                   *    -- Metallica,          *
    * Albuquerque, NM 87131                      *     "The Struggle Within" *


    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 08:38:17 MST From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <> To: Subject: Re: corruption in the goat herd Message-ID: <9B99AD6AA3@UCS.ISU.EDU>

    >you all have failed the human litmus test. i hate you and i hope die.

    Sorry to propose the fact that I am not intellectually capable of continuing with this mailing list. Of course, after failing the human litmus test, I have become rather inept towards my choice of musical infatuation. Apologizing for this adherancy upon my own personal character, I must resign from said list. As to you Mr. SloppyJoe69, I beg you please perform sexual intercourse with your own genital area and please bugger off. I am fashioning my time in that parabolic way that puts it to no good use. ChucK


    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 08:41:41 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <> To: Subject: Re: corruption in the goat herd Message-ID: <>

    > AMEN Brother!!!!!! Jen is the Best AOL-er out there...and for those who > aren't freakin' lucky enough to have a school, or business to mooch > Internet access off of...AOL is not all that bad of a place! So in Jen's

    What's all this "mooching" shit? Most commercial accounts (such as mine from cost ten bucks a month. Anyone who can't afford THAT might want to have second thoughts about owning a computer! :)

    > with your Kevin Moore Demo's...I think you should help stick up for > Jen!!! Later!!!

    You bet.. Jen's cool, and the demos kick ass. My hat is off to Kevin Moore for making a tape I haven't managed to get out of my truck stereo since I received it, except to dub it for others...

    Mike Bahr,


    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 08:19:42 MST From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <> To: Subject: Kev demos Message-ID: <9B4A7A6F4A@UCS.ISU.EDU>

    >My favorite VH song is Right Now, but every time I hear it now I think >of Crystal Pepsi!

    >Steve Z

    If you like Right Now, you should really check out a song on their new album called Not Enough. It's a very good song and I think the piano part in it is WAY better than Right Now. (I think it's because it doesn't remind me of those damn commercials.)

    ChucK P.S. Fuck you to SloppyJoe69 for the non-DT content.


    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 08:47:53 MST From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <> To: Subject: Dream Theater info Message-ID: <9BC2A505F4@UCS.ISU.EDU>

    >I am extremely new to this list and am curious about some things. >First of all, is AWAKE a good CD?

    It is quickly becoming my favorite CD. I love every song on it. It's worth buying just to get the three art A mind beside itself series.

    >Next, has anyone seen Dream Theater live? If so, were they worth >the money to see them? Finally, does Dream Theater have a long form >video out?

    I've never seen them live, and I'm still kicking myself for having to work through my first chance at seeing them. Hopefully, they will be back to my are for the second leg of their US tour. Also, Live in Tokyo is, I believe, the only video they have out right now. It also has another name. Dream Theater: Music meant to be heard. It costs about $16 in stores and I doubt (really) if you'll find it to be rented anywhere. It's a very good video containing footage of the bands performances, interviews with the band, the famous Dream Theater condoms (I love that part), and their music videos (from I&W).

    >Chris Defrates

    Welcome aboard the mailing list, hope you don't get flamed too soon (I did).



    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 16:46:27 +0100 (MET) To: Subject: Stockhol gig Message-ID: <199502231546.QAA25185@abacus.HGS.SE>

    Just wanted to say that I thank God that LaBries microphone didnt work in the beginning of the show. Because The improvised jam that the guys made while LaBrie was offstage, pissed off, Is the best I've EVER heard...

    Maybe it is because I'm a musician, but I have never been that impressed in my whole life !

    thanx -- ,----------------------------------------------------------------------. I Joggs Boggs I I I I 'Balls and chunk is where it's at' I I I `----------------------------------------------------------------------'


    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 08:53:55 MST From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <> To: Subject: Re: Tab Book Message-ID: <9BDCC20E21@UCS.ISU.EDU>

    >I was just wondering if anyone has a copy of the tab for ytsejam or >the killing hand for bass. I cant really make out the bassline from >the cd and was looking for any help possible. Thanks.

    > Ed Polzin

    I know, it sux, don't it? I can never hear Myung's bass parts. Since my band doesn't have a keyboardist (and as far as my guitarist is concerned, never will), I'm making an attempt to transcribe Kev's keys for bass. I wish I had a 6-string, it would make things a lot easier. I have Surrounded figured out, and we're gonna start working on it as a cover sometime soon. I hope it works. I even follow JP's solos through this song, too. I think it sounds pretty good, playing on the G-string, it give it that nice, plunky sound of a piano (sort- of) playing on a lower octave. (Then you move to a lower string and it totally whumps out of your speaker, that sux. It must be my active pick-ups)... ChucK


    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 09:00:48 MST From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <> To: Subject: PAL-to-NTSC, Pet Peeves Message-ID: <9BF99E13B1@UCS.ISU.EDU>

    >Pet Peeve Notice #2: Please keep your line lengths to EIGHTY >CHARACTERS MAX! Heavens, this might mean hitting the return key >instead of autowrapping, but a lot of us get posts that are one line >long and 2000 characters wide. We can't read 'em if we can't see 'em!

    > Chuxter ( > not Chuck, nor Chuck Ibanez, ^^^^^ ^^^^^^ (Grin) > but maybe Rick Carvin P.V. Guild

    No kidding, I've found that alot of people who make the guitar tablatures found on the net also do this. It carries over on my printer and maked a discusting mess of garbage. I find myself spending hours editing the things so that I can print them and read them. (Thanx HuntNKill for the Fortune in Lies tabs) Some people do a pretty good job of getting them set straight, too. Back to my guitar...



    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 09:10:33 MST From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <> To: Subject: Re: Kev demos Message-ID: <9C2330239B@UCS.ISU.EDU>

    > just think that after she left him it totally changed his state of > mind. Compare Surrounded and Space Dye Vest. See what I mean. > After she left him he probably just thought that everything in his > life was unimportant.

    "Love is an act of blood and I'm bleeding a pool in the shape of a heart."

    "This is not how I want it to end. And I'll never be open again."

    "And I'll smile and I'll learn to pretend. And I'll have no more dreams to defend."

    Jesus, I feel sorry for Kevin. These lyrics show how this thing really tore him up. He was so happy when he wrote Surrounded, it sounded like something that JP would have written for Rena. And now SDV is a complete contradiction of Surrounded. Everytime I hear this song I always get a really heavy feeling in my chest, a really sad feeling. It's also the reason I listen to this song over and over again. Surrounded, every time I listen to that now, I think of SDV and it gets Surrounded depressing as well (Then I start singing Michelle's parody lyrics over it and my whole day brightens, everyone got a kick out of that). ChucK


    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 09:19:29 MST From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <> To: Subject: Quick, Serious Question... Message-ID: <9C493D0DA7@UCS.ISU.EDU>

    >Should I knock it off with my incessant babbling & personal insights?

    >Just wondering, >Hairball

    That's what makes this mailing list original. What fun would it be if noone expressed their own opinions on this thing. It would just be like an email nerd festival otherwise, just a bunch of people stating facts about record sales, tour dates, and the average weight and number of times daily that Portnoy takes a shit. (No offense, it's just an analogy) I like receiving info on the band, but it runs dry all too often, (the FAQ tells it all), and so peoples insight on things is really something to use to start a discussion. BTW, I was wondering what (on the terms of the favorite CD's thing) is everybody's dream band. I know it's not Dream Theater.

    Mine consists of:

    Geoff Tate -- vocals Marty Friedman and John Petrucci -- guitars Kevin Moore (w/Roger Waters backup) -- Keyboards Steve Harris (too bad Cliff's dead) -- Bass Mike Portnoy -- Percussion Let's hear info! ChucK


    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 12:33:00 -500 (EST) From: "DANIEL JAMES TEMMESFELD" <> To: Subject: Non-DT: Megadeth List? Message-ID: <>

    I keep hearing about a Megadeth list in posts. Is it a list like Ytsejam? Or are you just refering to I'd really like any information on a Megadeth list like Ytsejam.

    Thanks, Dan Temmesfeld


    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 95 14:19:46 GMT From: To: Subject: Fave Albums, Ytse-con, UK stuff Message-ID: <>

    Hiya folks, more news 'n views from the UK,

    I dunno, you don't post for two weeks and you get 600 unread mail messages. What a nightmare...

    Good to hear about the I&W tab book. I'll keep an eye out for it here in Europe and see what gives.

    A Ytse-con would be really great. I can't see one happening in England coz there's just not enough of us here to warrant a party, and those partys where only three people turn up really suck in my opinion :) If it was during the summer, I'd definately try and make it. After all, I owe my bank 700 pounds as it is, so what's another 300 pounds for the plane ticket :)

    Albums I like all the songs on?...

    The Wonderstuff: Constuction for the Modern Idiot The Sisters of Mercy: Floodland The Levellers: Levelling the Land Pearl Jam: Ten All About Eve: All About Eve, Scarlet and Other Stories The Mission: Carved in Sand Steve Vai: Passion & Warfare Tori Amos: Little Earthquakes Black Crowes: $hake your Money Maker Yes: The Yes Album Queensryche: Rage for Order, Mindcrime Ozrics Tentacles: Jurasic Shift Kings X: Gretchen Goes to Nebraska

    There's probably more, but that'll do for now.

    Now don't get excited everyone, but I have a little footage of the Zepplin medley they did at the covers concert. Unfortunatley, it's a mono video tape recording and I haven't got the time or resources to make copies until at least May, probably June, due to finals. It's recorded from Noisy Mothers (UKs ONLY rock show, geesh...) a couple of weeks back, so someone could well have a better stereo copy. I've also got a chrome, stereo copy of the DT Session on the Bruce Dickenson show a couple of weeks back, and a stereo video of the HBB stuff. I'd say that none of it is really worth having though. All the coverage here has been really disapointing.

    Oh, if anyone in the UK's interested, Steve Hackett is playing Birminghams Ronnie Scotts at the end of May and Steve Howe's playing there the following month. Needless to say, I'm going to both of 'em! :)



    "For the first time in a long time...It's about music."


    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 11:44:49 -0500 (EST) From: Hairball <> To: Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 712 Message-ID: <>

    > This is not particularly true. Last I heard, Megadeth was on David > Letterman and they played two of their songs, which are definitely in > no way 1:30 minute songs. (That would make them more like Green Day > wouldn't it?) > I'm sure they could play Take the Time with absolutely no problem.

    I only saw them do one - "Train Of Consequences." That song isn't long at all. It's maybe 4:30 - 5:00. You're saying that DT could play an 8:31 song? I think not.

    Not on U.S. Network TV, anyway. Totally unheard of.

    You know who's got balls? Jon Stewart. He's had King's X & Slayer on his show. That killed me - Slayer on network TV. hehe...

    As for King's X, they played incredibly well, and sounded great. They did "Dogman" and "Manic Depression" as the credits rolled.

    Still, all in all, the best TV band sound award IMHO goes to whoever ran it for Arsenio Hall. Good god...anyone who's got the ability to make any band sound that good coming out of a tiny TV speaker has my vote.

    SNL generally sucks in this department. =)

    > This message is directed to the one who calls himself (I assume > you're a guy) "Hairball." How did your friend manage to land his > internship at the record company? I would be very interested in following > suit. Thanks. > Richie

    I dunno. Probably just called them and inquired there, but, I'll ask. Try calling them and politely asking to whom you need to speak to about an internship.

    More later...gotta get outta this lab...there's a class about to start! hehe...


    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 12:49:19 -0400 (EDT) From: To: Subject: ftp archives? Message-ID: <>

    Hey, Where's all the DT stuff kept now? I was trying to find it in and found zippo on DT. Has it all been moved?



    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 12:36:24 -0600 (CST) From: To: Cc: Multiple recipients of list <> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 712 Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950223123227.4111A-100000@world>

    hi. i'd just like to say that this is my first post and that i hope it works.... about the boxing thing: at the beginning of the drum solo in the middle of "the ytse jam" on the LiT video, there's a sample that says: "Let's get ready to rumble!!!" Well, i was watching the tuesday night fights last week and heard this exact same voice at the beginning of the fight. i think it was Pazanenza/Duran, but that's not improtant. the fight was held in New Jersey, and i had heard that Mike P. lives in NJ. Just thought i'd throw that out..... adam


    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 13:05:03 MST From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <> To: Subject: Re: YTSE CONVENTION/MIKE P Message-ID: <A00C5135A6@UCS.ISU.EDU>

    Doh! I'll be holding the convention is the northwestern US, I almost have the feeling there will be a party of one arriving (maybe two, my friend Matt'll show). If there are any Ytsejammers in the area of Idaho (Near SLC), speak up. We could cook something up up here! ChucK


    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 95 21:21 GMT From: (Mark Tiplady) To: Subject: Ready to dub and other stories Message-ID: <>

    In-Reply-To: <> Hi everyone,

    Please don't flame me if you're reading this for the second time, my mail software died on me. Anyway, just to let all you UK jammers know that I'm back from my trek to the wilds of Scotland and ready and raring to go with my branch of the dubbing tree. Many thanks to all those who have already asked for copies. I've e-mailed you separately.

    This is also the last call for anyone interested in meeting up prior to the Forum gig on 15th March in London. If you want to join us be outside the big HMV store in Oxford Street at 3PM (that's the HMV between Tottenham Court Road and Oxford Circus NOT the one near Bond Street). If you can't make 3PM but want to catch us later let me know and I'll try and sort something out. I'd love to meet you all. There is a serious lack of good taste around these parts so it'll be nice to meet people with similar musical tastes for a change.

    Attention all you Queensryche fans, you may already know this but, the band will be doing a signing session and a short acoustic show at the Virgin Store, Marble Arch on 10th March at 12:30. I'm gonna be there getting my original 206 label Queensryche EP signed. If anyone else is thinking of turning up let me know.

    On a different note. Anyone into Marillion or the more 'classically' styled prog groups should try to get hold of the CD Songs From The Lion's Cage by Arena, the new band put together by Mick Pointer (ex Marillion drummer) and Clive Nolan (ex Pendragon keys). I've had the CD for a couple of weeks now and it's a real grower. I must admit to being a bit sceptical at first (it does sound an awful lot like an amalgam of Marillion, Pendragon, Pallas and IQ with a hint of Asia) but I'm really getting into it now. The singer sounds so much like Fish at times it's uncanny. Check out Midas Vision, you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference. There's also a nice solo on one of the songs from a certain Mr Rothery. On the whole a very worthwhile purchase (IMHO).

    Well, that about wraps it up for me. Catcha later,



    But I was lonely, I was lost without my little black box, I pick up the phone and go Execute. - Kate Bush.

    Oh Shit! - Data.



    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 16:23:33 -0500 (EST) From: Stephan Dobay <> To: Subject: Yet another KM dub site Message-ID: <>

    Yes, it's another East Coast dub site for the Kevin Moore demos. Is it any wonder James called Baltimore Dream Theater's second home?

    Anyway, if you'd like a copy just email me and I'll send you the details.



    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 14:23:08 MST From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <> To: Subject: Stockhol gig Message-ID: <A1592E1131@UCS.ISU.EDU>

    >,------------------------------------------------------------------. >I Joggs Boggs I >I I >I 'Balls and chunk is where it's at' I >I I >`------------------------------------------------------------------' I got a kick out of this when Mike (I think it was Mike, or was it Kev?) said that about the Another Day video. He said that's why eMpTyV wouldn't air it. If you haven't seen the Live in Tokyo video, you won't know what I'm talking about. 'Nuff rambles... ChucK


    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 13:47:42 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <> Subject: Re: Sloppyjoe69 Message-ID: <>

    Excerpts from mail: 23-Feb-95 Re: Sloppyjoe69 by James Peele@unf6.cis.unf > As far as the KM demos, I think it is obvious that these are demos and > not a final product. Kevin is clearly searching for a musical identity > on his own and I believe that he has a long way to go. I can tolerate a > few songs but most of the songs lack conviction, passion, and > timelessness (the most important ingredient, if you ask me). Ahh, well...

    I have to disagree. I like almost every song (Nora just doesn't do anything for me), and I don't think they lack conviction or passion at all... in fact quite the opposite, I find them very emotional. Timeless? Hard to tell at this point, but I find Blanket, Even the Waves, and Sun Orange repeating in my head over and over...I really love those songs... Overall, i think the demos are musically and lyrically very good. I wish there were more of those wild KM synth solos, but I guess he's not all that into that these days.


    ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anton Max | I know I was looking for something Keyboards, Aepithex | Thought it was you, but I guess it was me MadMax+@CMU.EDU | -Kevin Moore -------------------------------------------------------------------------


    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 13:52:02 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU> To: Multiple recipients of list <> Subject: Re: corruption in the goat herd Message-ID: <>

    Excerpts from mail: 23-Feb-95 Re: corruption in the goat .. by Eric Moegling@bigcat.mis > AMEN Brother!!!!!! Jen is the Best AOL-er out there...and for those who > aren't freakin' lucky enough to have a school, or business to mooch > Internet access off of...AOL is not all that bad of a place! So in Jen's > defense...let's not get nasty towards a whole group of people because of > one person's opinion! Take care fellow DT enthusiasts...and for those > with your Kevin Moore Demo's...I think you should help stick up for > Jen!!! Later!!! > Gladly. The KM demos are the most satisfying music I've acquired since I got Floyd's the Wall several months ago. > > (WE DO LOVE YOU JEN!!!!!!)

    damn straight


    ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anton Max | I know I was looking for something Keyboards, Aepithex | Thought it was you, but I guess it was me MadMax+@CMU.EDU | -Kevin Moore -------------------------------------------------------------------------


    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 15:04:49 -0500 (EST) From: Special Darks <> To: Cc: Multiple recipients of list <> Subject: Re: Derek Sherinian in Wayne's world! Message-ID: <>

    > Another bit we found: In "Three of hearts" there's a scene at the end of > the movie where William Baldwin is in hospital. After a while you can > hear the well known "Dr.Player, Dr.Player, .." from Queensryches Operation > Mindcrime.

    Also,in the Steve Martin movie, "Mixed Nuts", the beginning part of Operation Mindcrime is used.




    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 15:23:42 -0600 (CST) From: Ricky Booth <> To: Subject: Re: Quick, Serious Question... Message-ID: <>

    > Mine consists of: > > Geoff Tate -- vocals > Marty Friedman and John Petrucci -- guitars > Kevin Moore (w/Roger Waters backup) -- Keyboards > Steve Harris (too bad Cliff's dead) -- Bass > Mike Portnoy -- Percussion

    Good call. My picks would be different however...

    Charlie Dominici (just kiddin! Geoff Tate all the way) -- vocals John Petrucci & Eddie Van Halen -- rhythm & lead guitar Kevin Moore - keyboards Geddy Lee - bass (YES! Cliff Burton was the ultimate.) Mark Zonder - Percussion

    -- _ __ _____(_)____/ /__ #########/ Rick Booth; /~### / ___/ / ___/ //_/ #######/' "Loss of intrest, question, wonder /~##### / / / / /__/ ,< #####/' waves of fear, they pull me under." /~####### /_/ /_/\___/_/|_| ###/'_The Frayed Ends of Sanity_ / Metallica /~#########


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