YTSEJAM digest 716

Date: Fri Feb 24 1995 - 07:50:40 EST

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Why slam AOL (was Re: corruption in the goat herd)
     by (Ken Bibb)
     by (Ken Bibb)
      3) TNT Re: My Reviews
     by (Ken Bibb)
      4) Parodies and DT addiction
     by Michelle Garcia <>
      5) Ytsejam Convention: Southern Cali...
     by (Dr. Mosh)
      6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 712
     by Ricky Booth <>
      7) Megadeth List?
     by LARS BROBERG H101 <>
      8) fanzine
     by "Brian V. Cox" <>
     10) Re: Dream Theater info/ Steve Taylor...
     by w de boer <boer303@hio.tem.NHL.NL>
     11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 714
     by Stone <>
     12) DoE for sale
     by (Mike Masi)
     by (Ties Goebel)
     14) Dream band
     15) More Longwinded Pointless Commentary!
     by Hairball <>
     16) Re: Derek Sherinian a member of DT!!
     by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <>
     17) Dream Concert
     18) Another (semi)serious question
     by Jarrod Kamsey-Lewis <>
     19) Megadeth on Letterman
     by Stephan Dobay <>
     20) QR soundbytes
     by zebrowski steven <>
     21) Another East USA dub site open!
     22) Ibanez makes an awfully strange face and goes, "Bog."
     by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <>
     23) Re: YTSEJAM digest 715
     24) [Bryan Pascuzzi: 1st time DT buyer]
     by Bryan Pascuzzi (ACISD) <pascuzzi@ARL.MIL>
     25) Re[2]: corruption in the goat herd
     by "tdb" <>


    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 22:09:39 +0800
    From: (Ken Bibb)
    Subject: Why slam AOL (was Re: corruption in the goat herd)
    Message-ID: <>

    > From: John B Ashcraft <>
    > Why nust people put down AooLers.

    You really want to know the answer? It's because of the way that AOL
    handled the whole Internet thing.

    As I recall, back when AOL was first talking about getting onto the
    net, there were convos in the news.admin.policy newsgroup discussing
    how AOL should provide their users with info *before* letting them onto
    the net. The admins there were ignored and a bunch of naive users
    flooded the net.

    This isn't new--net people where used to this happening every Fall--but
    it hadn't been such a large flood previously.

    So people began to notice that when a naive question was asked, the
    site was The users quickly got an (undeserved) reputation
    for being a bunch of newbies.

    And the whole thing could have been avoided with some simple user

    Ken Bibb		"Upon a wave of summer	 A hilltop paved with gold	 We shut our eyes and make the promises we hold"
    				David Sylvian--"Wave"


    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 22:47:07 +0800 From: (Ken Bibb) To: Subject: NO QUEENSRYCHE DOCTOR SAMPLES!! Message-ID: <>

    > From: (Andreas Schaefer) > > Another bit we found: In "Three of hearts" there's a scene at the end of > the movie where William Baldwin is in hospital. After a while you can > hear the well known "Dr.Player, Dr.Player, .." from Queensryches Operation > Mindcrime.

    <semi-serious mode on>


    If you want to talk about this, *please* talk about it on Shag's Screaming in Digital (where it's been discussed and discussed and discussed...)

    That doctor sample is used *all over the place*. It's a standard bit of audio fx for hospital scenes. I think Shag may even have turned the whole thing into a game :)

    <serious mode on>

    Seriously, I can live with "perfect albums", "Bon Jovi", "Van Halen", and even threads about Goats, but I'm really really really tired of hearing about this sample.

    Having said that, I suspect the rest of you will now carry on a long thread about how wonderful the sample is which I will probably read anyways :)

    -- Ken Bibb "Upon a wave of summer A hilltop paved with gold We shut our eyes and make the promises we hold" David Sylvian--"Wave"


    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 22:51:59 +0800 From: (Ken Bibb) To: Subject: TNT Re: My Reviews Message-ID: <>

    > From: An Angel's Kiss... <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> > > > 5. TNT, Knights of the New Thunder. > > Quite good. I didn't listen to it as much. I played it at > > work and got no response from my co-workers. I'll listen to it after > > I finally get Parallels out of my system. > > > Knights of the Thunder was TNT's first album,

    There was at least one album before "Knights of the New Thunder". I used to have it :) It was completely in Norwegian and had many of the songs that were on KotNT.

    -- Ken Bibb "Upon a wave of summer A hilltop paved with gold We shut our eyes and make the promises we hold" David Sylvian--"Wave"


    Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 00:07:23 -0800 (PST) From: Michelle Garcia <> To: Cc: Multiple recipients of list <> Subject: Parodies and DT addiction Message-ID: <>

    Hi all!

    I'm interested to know what people thought of the Surrounded parody. The few comments I saw on the Jam were cool! I had a lot of fun writing it. I wonder what my next target will be? heh heh...

    I'm all for a regional DT-Con. Wouldn't San Diego be a nice to visit? I also think we should get bands to do DT covers. Hint hint...

    Today is my birthday and I got Live at the Marquee CD (thanks Rich the Piggy) and a cool Portnoy interview (Kinga!) Now if only John Petrucci would show up at my door and sing The Silent Man. Sigh...

    -------------------------------------------------------------- Michelle Garcia {{{{}}}} University of California, San Diego San Diego Supercomputer Center USA email: { "As a child, I thought I could live without pain without sorrow..." - John Petrucci, DREAM THEATER } --------------------------------------------------------------


    Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 00:22:17 PST From: (Dr. Mosh) To: Subject: Ytsejam Convention: Southern Cali... Message-ID: <>

    Well, I've already gotten to meet a few Ytsejammers here including Jennifer and Don Ivie... how about an YTSEJAM get together down here in Southern CA? Anyone interested? You could sample all the latest boots, etc...

    -The Doc

    -- #$%*#$*@ REAL: + VIRTUAL: *@#$*@#$ *$%&%#$* The Dream Theater Archives: /pub/dr/drkhoe/dt &*@#$*@$ **%^$#$% WWW: "" #$**@#*$ *$*$*$*# Reality Enhancement Software - Engineering Reality *$&#*#@$


    Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 00:06:53 -0600 (CST) From: Ricky Booth <> To: Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 712 Message-ID: <>

    > of "the ytse jam" on the LiT video, there's a sample that says: "Let's > get ready to rumble!!!" Well, i was watching the tuesday night fights > last week and heard this exact same voice at the beginning of the fight.

    Yes, it's traditional to say before fights "LLLLllllet's get ready to rummmmmmble!" Most refs have their own style of saying but they all say it...

    -- _ __ _____(_)____/ /__ #########/ Rick Booth; /~### / ___/ / ___/ //_/ #######/' "Loss of intrest, question, wonder /~##### / / / / /__/ ,< #####/' waves of fear, they pull me under." /~####### /_/ /_/\___/_/|_| ###/'_The Frayed Ends of Sanity_ / Metallica /~#########


    Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 10:42:00 +0100 From: LARS BROBERG H101 <> To: ", DDA.RFC-822:ytsejam(a), P:internet, A:SILSE" <> Subject: Megadeth List? Message-ID: <AAAACHLACPENJLNAAAAAAEKA*/G=LARS/S=BROBERG/OU=B3870/OU=NBP/O=NORDBANKEN/PRMD=NB/ADMD=SIL/C=SE/@MHS>

    --- Inkommet fr}n NBP.P004690 08-6148208 95-02-24 09.42 -> DDA:RFC-822=ytsejam(a); P=internet; A=SIL; C=SE

    Re: Dan Temmesfeld

    >I keep hearing about a Megadeth list in posts. Is it a list like > Ytsejam? Or are you just refering to I'd really > like any information on a Megadeth list like Ytsejam.

    So there's more Jammers that are into Megadeth, great!

    I think that it's because Megadeth also stands for good musicians, and thats why we like DT, right!(?)

    /Lars Broberg


    Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 21:43:59 EST From: (MISS JAIME K KIMPTON) To: Subject: fanzine Message-ID: <>

    Hey - I'm a longtime Dream Theater fan and probably obviously a new subscriber; this is my first note and hopefully it gets posted!

    It seems that all of the Dream Theater zines are located in Europe: the official one in the UK, one in Italy, one in Germany, and I can't remember where "Your Majesty" is located. Which is all well and good, but it's going to cost those of us Stateside an arm and a leg in airmail and translation! Therefore I ask this: anyone interested in a *US* Dream Theater zine?? Ha - thought that might get some attention. I just published my first anniversary issue, and I'm desperate for fresh blood - I mean contributors. It ain't what you'd call particularly professional; I'm working with rather primitive equipment <you know that thing called an electronic typewriter?? Manual layout does still exist!) I would, however, call it a work from the heart, and I need people to contribute! Live reviews, demo reviews, photos - anything you like regarding DT, and I also do asides on other prog and power metal bands, mostly underground. If you're interested, drop me a line all the way over here on P*; I only download a few of the digests, due to the 36 cent cost per digest! (I think I need to get my butt onto AOL and off P*...)

    let light surround you! Jaime the Dragon ybbx10c


    Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 04:32:41 -0600 (CST) From: "Brian V. Cox" <> To: Cc: Subject: COVERS GIG TAPE EXISTS!!! Message-ID: <>

    YES!!! i found someone who taped the entire 1/31/95 covers gig in london!!

    show was taped on a sony D3 analog pro walkman, and i am getting a first gen in the mail sometime in the next week or two!! yes...

    also, the same guy interviewed/taped mike portnoy after the gig, and is sending that as well. same guy will also be taping the upcoming march london gig.

    all you europeans: go buy a decent walkman and tape some shows for us!

    as soon as i get the tape, i will make it readily available for anyone that wants it at a 2:1 blank trade ratio.

    **always looking for rush/dream theater/queensryche/king's x bootlegs** ============================================================================= Voices repeating me, Brian V. Cox Voices discussing me, "Feeling threatened? "Others steal your thoughts We reflect your hopes Dream Theater- They're not confined and fears." A Mind Beside Itself: II. Voices Within your mind." ============================================================================= check out my new homepage:


    Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 13:12:57 +0100 From: w de boer <boer303@hio.tem.NHL.NL> To: Subject: Re: Dream Theater info/ Steve Taylor... Message-ID: <>

    your majestY,

    I saw Steve Taylor last summer at the Flevo Festival in Holland. He really is a great artist and he acts like a complete lunatic when he is on stage. Have you heard the tribute album "I predict a clone"? There are some great bands on that one, including Deliverance, who play the best Steve Taylor songs. Speaking of Deliverance, check out their latest album "River Disturbance"!! It sounds a lot like Queensryche, especially the guitar solos. Also, if you're interested in symphonic metal, you should check out some new bands like Saviour Machine, Torman Maxt and an old band, called Haven. These bands prove that Christian Rock can be progressive too!!

    Grace and peace,


    <<<<<<<< Once lost but I was found >>>>>>>> <<<<<<<< Dream Theater - "Surrounded" >>>


    Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 08:32:17 -0600 (CST) From: Stone <> To: Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 714 Message-ID: <>

    A Dream Band? Is that with Michael Jordan and Charles Barkley and...


    Geoff Tate: vox Chris Cornell: vox, guitar, harmonica John Petrucci: lead guitar Stone Gossard: rhythm guitar Geddy Lee: bass Mike Portnoy: drums

    ***************************************************************************** |"They took pictures of our dreams, Ran to hide behind the stairs, And said | |maybe when it's right for you they'll fall. But if they don't come down, | |Resist the need to pull them in, And throw them away. Better to save the | |mystery, Than surrender to the secret." --Dream Theater, Another Day | ***************************************************************************** |Alex Fraser -- St. Olaf College -- e-mail: | *****************************************************************************


    Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 04:14:09 GMT From: (Mike Masi) To: Subject: DoE for sale Message-ID: <>

    Hi all,

    Since I will soon be be getting another copy of Dance of Eternity (thanks Mike), I am going to sell my current copy.

    Anyone interested, I'm selling it for $35 including shipping.

    Email me if interested.



    Date: Fri, 24 Feb 95 12:35 MET From: (Ties Goebel) To: Message-ID: <>

    Subject: Dubbing site for Germany / (Europe) !

    Dubbing site for Germany / (Europe) ! -------------------------------------

    Okay, now I have the Kevin Moore demo tape, so I'm ready to make copies. If there are people in Europe (outside Germany) who want to get the tape from me, email me!

    Und fuer die Deutschen: Wer das Tape haben moechte, kann 7 DM an folgende Adresse schicken: Ties Goebel Am Grossen Wannsee 49a 14109 Berlin Ich waere allerdings auch an einem Tausch interessiert, bei Interesse Email!

    Thanks, Jennifer !!!



    Date: Fri, 24 Feb 95 10:29:08 EST From: To: Subject: Dream band Message-ID: <>

    Here's mine:

    Voice - Lou Gramm Guitar - Petrucci, Dann Huff Bass - Mike Inez Keys - Kevin Moore Drums - Mark Zonder / Mike Portnoy

    Thanks for listening...

    "Rescue me, I can't dream this dream any more Set me free, I keep holding on but I don't know what for"


    Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 11:27:01 -0500 (EST) From: Hairball <> To: Cc: Hairball <> Subject: More Longwinded Pointless Commentary! Message-ID: <>

    Hey all... AWAKE has been in my car tape deck for the past 2 weeks, almost constantly (excepting when I pop in Saigon Kick's "The Lizard," which is a great album in and of itself...), and I've been making mental comparisons between that and the other two DT albums.

    One of the things that shocked me about "WDADU" was how bad the recording actually was. They recorded it at Kajem Studios, which is about an hour from where I currently sit.The studio was built into an old Civil War era "warehouse" (hey, PA's an old state, what can I say? <grin>), and is noted for it's drum room sound. One album of particular noteworthyness cut there was 'Ryche's "Mindcrime."

    Kinda frightening, eh?

    Anyway, what particularly bothers me about WDADU, production-wise is the overall sound quality. It's pretty gnarly. (wow, throwback phrase!) I don't know exactly where to put the blame for this, so, let's take a look at the big picture.

    As we all (should) know, the signal chain starts at the microphone on the sound source. Improper placement of mics or the wrong mic can destroy everything. I don't think the engineering people over there are particularly bad - they've done enough work over there to know their end of it. I can assume it's safe to eliminate them.

    So, on to Terry Date. He's got a fairly distinguished track record, most notably doing work for Overkill. I partially blame him, but, I do believe some of the blame should fall on the band as well, considering they co-produced the record.

    The worst sounding instruments: Mike's Kick, John's Bass & John's guitar. The snare sounds pretty good, as does the rest of the kit - except the one tom that tends to distort (listen for it on LiT and I&W as well) if not properly dealt with.

    John's bass sound was probably taken from a combination of a Direct Signal and miking his amp. How can I assume this? At every Dream Theater show I go to, I seem to wind up in front of his amp. =) It's a very thin, bright tone, but, considering the fact that he uses a 6 string bass, I can understand why.Any more bass in that thing would probably cause a speaker to pop out. That low B string's frequency tends to be so low that many stereo systems can't handle it, and apparently, most engineers don't know how to deal with it. (COMPRESS, COMPRESS, COMPRESS!)

    John's guitar? Well, let's just say his gear's MUCH better now. =) The MesaBoogie amps he uses are just beyond compare. I don't care WHAT kind of music you play - Boogies are IMHO the best sounding amps in existance. If I could afford one, I'd have one.

    Overall, though, the mix isn't bad. All the instruments are balanced fairly well...which makes me think that many of the problems occured in the recording process. Someone goofed up. =)

    Okay, enough harping on that record.

    On I&W, David "let's replace the kick & snare with triggered samples" Prater created a VERY full sound, at the expense of Mike's drums. When talking to Mike about this, the only thing (and he's said this in Modern Drummer as well) that really bothered him was the replacement of his snare. He did like the kick sounds, to some degree. However, you can tell he left the toms alone, for the most part, because you can still hear that distortion in that one tom - if you can't turn it up just a little too loud...don't distort the WHOLE sound, but, just below that. That tom definitely needed work. (God, I nitpick, don't I?)

    The thing about triggering drums is this: it's necessary to put a "gate" on the particular sound you want to replace with a sample. This helps to eliminate bleeding of other parts that were picked up by the mike on the particular track. However, in Mike's case, Prater "closed the gate" too tightly, and not enough of the original signal got through. Triggers also practically eliminate dynamics - as long as it detects a signal, it'll throw out its assigned sample, all at the same volume. Another problem gets to be that Mike does some awful fast snare rolls, and the sample can't react quickly enough, like a real drum can. This explains some of the wierd sounding snare hits you hear on that album.

    Again, Prater's just that way. I've talked to Mike, Kevin & James about working with him, and they all pretty much told me that it was "his way or his way, period." Mike protested about his snare being replaced to no avail.

    James told me something I wasn't aware of - on the Firehouse records that Prater's done, he actually told their vocalist to get out of the studio, and cut the backing vocals for him. I asked James if that happened here, and he said, "No, he let me cut my own."

    Also, one of the guitarists from the band ARCADE told me that David was a real ball-buster. He kept hitting him with a pencil for not playing a solo right, and told him, "Get it right, or I'm doing it for you!" =) Nice guy, eh? What Arcade did was to fire Prater and let someone else do the mix on the album (the guy who produced the 1st Pearl Jam record mixed Arcade's first record. His name escapes me, but it's not Brendan O'Brien), because, "[Prater] tends to show you one set of mixes, then, turns around and mixes it again, and that's what gets sent out."

    When I did the phone interview with Kevin, I asked him what he thought of people saying I&W was so glossy & overproduced. He snapped back, "We think this record sounds so much better than our 1st one, we don't care what people think." Ouch! Hit a sensitive spot there, didn't I? =)

    Anyway, John's bass sounds better, tonally speaking, but, it's completely lost in the mix. You kinda feel that it's there more than you actually hear it. Peeks through every once in a while. =) But, other than that, you get Metallica "Justice" syndrome - the guitars on that Metallica record completely bury the bass guitar. This is similar to what happened here.

    Purdell & Barron took almost all of the previous recording shortcomings and did away with them. Briefly, let me just state that working with those two was probably the wisest decision they've made yet. The album sounds SO FULL and the mix is SO CLEAR! The band sounds HUGE- as the drummer in my band put it,"They are the gods of flange & reverb." Yet, it sounds only half as polished and sterile as I&W. True, there's small problems here & there, but, what P&B did was to let the band BREATHE. And it shows. Every instrument was painstakingly and amazingly well recorded. They even got that tom. =)

    Songwriting? That's a different issue. I'll go into that some other time. I think this is long enough. Hope I didn't bore any of you.

    Later, "the one who calls himself" Hairball


    Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 08:13:42 MST From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <> To: Subject: Re: Derek Sherinian a member of DT!! Message-ID: <B331805B84@UCS.ISU.EDU>

    >> ATTENTION!!!! ATTENTION!!!! >> >> James LaBrie announced yesterday that Derek Sherinian is now an >> official member of Dream Theater!!!!! >>

    >So, how and when did it happen! That's great news. What do Derek's >solos sound like?

    I heard they sounded like this...

    Da, da, da, da, dada, da, da... Zshweeeeee, da, da, da.... etc... plink, tink, tink, tiddle, dididdle, plunk, plink, dunk... Duh, duh, duhnuhnuh, duhnuhnuhduhnuhnuh, duh, duh, duh!

    It sounds cool, sing along! ChucK


    Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 13:21:06 -0500 (EST) From: BOB HOLDER <BH7314@LUNDY.NIAGARAC.ON.CA> To: Cc: BH7314@LUNDY.NIAGARAC.ON.CA Subject: Dream Concert Message-ID: <950224132106.204094e7@LUNDY.NIAGARAC.ON.CA>

    Dream Band is a good idea. How about a Dream Concert? Geoff Tate, Jon Anderson - Vocals John Petrucci, Eddie VanHalen, Eric Clapton - Guitars Ian Anderson - Flute (Just to add a little extra flavour) Kevin Moore, Geddy Lee, Keith Emerson - Keyboards Steve Harris, John Myung, Geddy Lee - Bass Carl Palmer, Neil Peart, Mike Portnoy, Charlie Benante - Percussion Also, is there a KM dub site in Canada, specifically Southern Ontario? Ytse-con sounds fabulous regionally, something in Western NY or Southern Ontario would kick! Ta, Bob "It's a crazy world we live in, and I'm leaving it today, for another institution, where crazy people play." Dio


    Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 10:48:42 -0800 (PST) From: Jarrod Kamsey-Lewis <> To: DREAM THEATER <> Subject: Another (semi)serious question Message-ID: <>

    Hey jammers, here is something to get everyone thinking. What if the guys in the band suddenly stopped being able to preform their respective duties, and then they suddenly had to learn a different role in the band. (i.e. JP could no longer play guitar and then he suddenly had to learn how to sing lead vocals) What would be their new roles in the band?

    Although kind of corny, this was just a post to spice things up a bit on the list. Ignore it if you wish.

    Jarrod Ramsey-Lewis University of Portland


    Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 13:35:13 -0500 (EST) From: Stephan Dobay <> To: Subject: Megadeth on Letterman Message-ID: <>

    Megadeth was on Letterman _two_ times. That's two different shows. They played Train on one show, and Tout on the other. Dave L rarely lets a band play twice on the same show, in fact the only time that I think this has happened was with Tori, and I'm not even sure of that (FOAF).

    DT could play the edited Lie on the show. Or maybe Silent Man. They're already out as singles, so I'd bet on either of these two. As if it would happen. Probably a better bet would be the Jon Stewart show, as someone mentioned. He seems to have a pretty wide range of bands on. Hell, Leno had Laurie Anderson on the other night, so I guess anything is possible.

    On Fri, 24 Feb 1995, Zack Gemmill wrote:

    > > > This is not particularly true. Last I heard, Megadeth was on David > > > Letterman and they played two of their songs, which are definitely in > > > no way 1:30 minute songs. (That would make them more like Green Day > > > wouldn't it?) > > > > I only saw them do one - "Train Of Consequences." That song isn't > > long at all. It's maybe 4:30 - 5:00. You're saying that DT could play an > > 8:31 song? I think not. > > They did A Tout la Monde also (the end of the show). It sounded > album perfect to me. (I think they listened to some Fates when they > wrote the dual guitar solo near the end of the song.)



    Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 14:22:20 -0500 (EST) From: zebrowski steven <> To: Subject: QR soundbytes Message-ID: <>


    If you watch "Another World" on NBC TV you can hear "...Dr. Blair, Dr. Blair... Dr. J. Hamilton, Dr. J. Hamilton..." as well as the "...Dr. Davis, telephone please..." from Mindcrime by QR. You can hear them on St. Elsewhere or Gen- eral Hospital or a lot of other shows w/ a hospital backdrop. It must be a public domain sound effect or something.

    Oh yeah, and don't flame me 'cuz I love the soaps...

    Steve Z


    Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 15:39:16 -0500 From: To: Subject: Another East USA dub site open! Message-ID: <>

    That's right, here's another one! ;)

    The new East USA dub site is: (Pittsburgh)

    Have fun! :)

    Take care,

    Jennifer <>

    "I'm not dying, but I think I'll lay back anyway no welcome, but I think I'll stay..." Kevin Moore/_Even The Waves_


    Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 14:44:45 MST From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <> To: Subject: Ibanez makes an awfully strange face and goes, "Bog." Message-ID: <B9B6585621@UCS.ISU.EDU>

    See ya Monday, kids. I just picked up King's X, out of the silent planet, and, Rush, "2112" I hope they're good! (You guys [and gals] are the reason why I've been buying this stuff lately, so they better be good)

    See ya! ChucK


    Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 17:45:05 -0500 From: To: Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 715 Message-ID: <>

    Maybe its me but would anyone like to hear more improvised stuff from John Pretucci... we all know his compositional solos are awesome... but I think it would be nice to hear him occasionally improvise over some of the songs, considering the time changes, modal changes etc... the results would be quite interesting... anyone know why he doesn't improvise more?



    Date: Fri, 24 Feb 95 12:04:31 EST From: Bryan Pascuzzi (ACISD) <pascuzzi@ARL.MIL> To: Subject: [Bryan Pascuzzi: 1st time DT buyer] Message-ID: <9502241204.aa18428@SMOKEY.ARL.MIL>

    ----- Forwarded message # 1:

    Date: Wed, 22 Feb 95 9:10:50 EST From: Bryan Pascuzzi (ACISD) <pascuzzi@ARL> To: cc: pascuzzi@ARL.MIL Subject: 1st time DT buyer Message-ID: <9502220910.aa17792@SMOKEY.ARL.MIL>

    Hello, This is my first post. I'm a Rushaholic normally and I've noticed over the months that a majority of Rush fans also seem to like Dream Theater alot too. Well, aside from the few that they play on the radio, I've never heard the rest of DT. So, out of curiosity I've just ordered DT's debut from BMG. I'm a DT virgin, and I'm anxious for its arrival. I just hope I'm not disappointed, because from reading these posts, you guys (and gals) sure have raised my expectations. Just thought I'd let you know that I'm about to engulf into new territory, and I'll let you know what i think in a few weeks. Not that anyone really cares about one opinion, but it would be interesting to me to hear a rookie's point of view about RUSH, so.....

    B.P. "I find no absolution,... in my rational point of view.." -NP

    ----- End of forwarded messages


    Date: Fri, 24 Feb 95 09:35:09 PST From: "tdb" <> To: Subject: Re[2]: corruption in the goat herd Message-ID: <>

    Michael Bahr writes: > > AMEN Brother!!!!!! Jen is the Best AOL-er out there...and for those > > who aren't freakin' lucky enough to have a school, or business to > > mooch Internet access off of...AOL is not all that bad of a place! So > > in Jen's > > What's all this "mooching" shit? Most commercial accounts (such > as mine from cost ten bucks a month. Anyone who can't > afford THAT might want to have second thoughts about owning a computer! > :)

    I don't think that was a reference to people for _pay_ for accounts through service providers. It was more toward people who work at companies that are on the net, and who use their work account for personal access. How many of these people - myself included - (and even more so, the ones with ".edu" at the end of their address) would just disappear if they had to start paying for their own access (even without buying a computer)? Though I'm currently in that category, too, I'm checking out AOL and a couple other service providers.

    (Now _that_ ought to generate some flames from those who are young enough that the world is still black and white... <g>)

    Hmm... I'd better put in some nominal DT content - and besides I'm in a mood to stir things up. <g>

    I've noticed lots of posts like "If you listen to ACOS at 20:23.67, the next 2.4 seconds sound just like Rhiannon by Fleetwood Mac" - well maybe not quite that, but you get the idea. <g> Anyway, there at times I think that DT hasn't created anything that original, they've just taken all these bits and pieces of other people's stuff and combined them - with great skill - in a novel form. That means it would be possible (in theory) to sample all the relevant parts from other CD's and assemble them into a DT song. (This would be more difficult with WDADU, since CD's voice was much more distinctive and recognizable. Fortunately, JLaB - for all his greater technique and training - has the same sound as a lot of the rock and pop singers out there.)

    -- Tim


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