YTSEJAM Digest 721
Today's Topics:
1) RE: Regional Ytse-gathers
by Oscar van Eijk <Eijk.Oscar.van@uniface.nl>
2) Dream Band, YJ Conv.
by Evan Thomson <930377@edna.cc.swin.edu.au>
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 717
by BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu
4) Re: nuthin'
by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
5) DT vocals/Metal Blade's Address?
by STEVE SMITS <SMITSM@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu>
6) YTSE convention band?
by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
7) Nyquist and other electro stuff
by s9008640@mail.student.utwente.nl.student.utwente.nl (m.t.korthorst@student.utwente.nl)
8) YTSE Convention
by BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu
9) Minimal DT Content! =)
by Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
10) Re: boot list available!
by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
11) Controversey - Portnoy vs. Peart
by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
12) Re: More Thoughts:
by An Angel's Kiss... <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
13) Re: Controversey - Portnoy vs. Pearty
by John B Ashcraft <jbashcra@uncc.edu>
14) Re: Recording Shit 2
by Greg "Big Brother" Lee <greg@aix.can.ibm.com>
15) Re: DoE for sale
by An Angel's Kiss... <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
16) Random Thoughts...
by Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 720
by John Mastin <jmastin@motown.ge.com>
18) playing catch-up
by John Mastin <jmastin@motown.ge.com>
19) THIS IS FOR HAIRBALL
by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
20) Re: Dream Theater info/ Steve Taylor...
by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
21) "Ytse"???
by Jim Beavens <beavenj@ECE.ORST.EDU>
22) Re: YTSEJAM digest 719
by John Ambrose <jambrose@eden.rutgers.edu>
23) RE: In Defense of One "Goth"
by freel@iowa.physics.uiowa.edu
24) Hello there I'm new
by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 10:41:15 WET
From: Oscar van Eijk <Eijk.Oscar.van@uniface.nl>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: oscar@hopper.uniface.nl
Subject: RE: Regional Ytse-gathers
Message-ID: <0098C9B7.1CCFD380.3@hopper.uniface.nl>
> Babs had the right idea about meeting other people from the list serve...
> and whoever replied about it being regional got another vote...
Yeah, cool! Who's in for a Dutch meeting ? I know there'll be at least 4 of us!
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Abandon Hope Oscar van Eijk
All Ye O s c a r VMS Systems Administrator
Who Enter Here oscar@uniface.nl Compuware / Uniface Technology
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 20:23:35 +1100 (EDT)
From: Evan Thomson <930377@edna.cc.swin.edu.au>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Dream Band, YJ Conv.
Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9502272035.D3738-b100000@edna.cc.swin.edu.au>
Howdy folks, just a few things I'd like to get off my chest.
1. All these people listing "Dream Bands" with 4 guitarists and 3
drummers, etc. I thought the point was to narrow it down to your absolute
favorites? Just for the record here's mine:
Vocals: Robert Plant
Drums: John Bonham
Bass/Keys: John Paul Jones
Guitars: Jimmy Page
hehe
2. I'd like to ask a question to anyone out there who may know the band
more intimately than me (which is not at all I suppose)...
How do they write their songs???
I heard that for Awake they just "jammed" together in the studio, and
chose bits they liked or discovered on the spot.
I find this rather hard to believe. Surely musicians (as talented as they
are) don't just stumble over Metropolis?
I would like to think that members have their own ideas that they
work on, and then introduce to the band. If the "jamming" point is
correct, what does James do? sit and watch? (although wouldn't you kill
for that!?)
3. I'm all for a YJ convention, but I can't make it to the US, so I think
It should be held in Australia...
Evan.
"...but the police have footage of him *actually* nailing
your head to the coffee table..."
"oh yeah, he did that. ...He was a cruel man - but fair."
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 08:46:41 -0500 (EST)
From: BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 717
Message-ID: <01HNJDNPIOF6000U65@sgenva.CC.GENESEO.EDU>
Hello everyone, it's BABS. In response to Jennie Bear's question about
Tyketto. Yes, I have heard of them. They had a hit about 2-3 years ago
that still gets radio airplay here in upstate New York. Other than that I
don't know too much about them. I think that the name of the song was
something like ..."Forever Young". I hope that I have helped. -BABS
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 08:51:42 MST
From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: nuthin'
Message-ID: <FBD57A27CE@UCS.ISU.EDU>
> 6:00--Obviously the clock on the moon
> Caught in a Web--Again obvious
> Innocence Faded--Possibly the old man looking into the mirror at the
young man
> Erotomania--???
I wuz kinda thinking about the erotomania part of picture.
Notice the city in the background. I think that this is probably the
name of the city. (If not it's Metroplis, but that belongs on a
different album cover then, doesn't it?)
ChucK
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 09:50:51 -0600 (CST)
From: STEVE SMITS <SMITSM@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT vocals/Metal Blade's Address?
Message-ID: <01HNJFNZPCSY00EEPV@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu>
Date sent: 27-FEB-1995 09:42:14
I've often wondered why DT haven't incorporated more harmony vocals
in their material. JP sings quite well the Silent Man vocals live. I
wonder if any of the other guys in the group have decent singing voices?
(Beside that of James of course) I'd probably enjoy their stuff a whole
lot more. Two of DT's big influences, Kansas and Yes, were and still are
into using good harmony vocals.
Could someone post the e-mail address to Metal Blade Records
please. I had it on the postcard they sent me, but misplaced it. Thanks.
Got FW's Inside Out the other day....damn... Monument is a killer
tune! Also, that full band version of QR's Someone Else? is
incredible!
********************************************************************************
*
* "All my life they said I was going down,
* But I'm still standing, stronger, proud.
* And today I know there's so much more I can be."
* - Someone Else? - Queensryche 1994
*
* *** Always interested in trading Kansas shows ***
* Steve Smits Smitsm@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu
********************************************************************************
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 08:56:40 MST
From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: YTSE convention band?
Message-ID: <FBEA9D3162@UCS.ISU.EDU>
>Anyways, my favorite DT songs to play on bass these days have gotta
>be "Ytsejam," "Erotomania," and "6:00."
>--David Bell
The bass part for erotomania rocks! It sux to play on a for-string,
but it's possible (I play it now with few errors) My favorite part
is when it gets sort of a classical feel and Myung compliments
Petrucci's guitar solo by running a scale with the guitar. Too bad
you can't hear it unless you really listen for it. (And then it's
still hard to hear).
ChucK
(Still working on transcribing
those keys for bass)
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 95 14:31:29 GMT
From: s9008640@mail.student.utwente.nl.student.utwente.nl (m.t.korthorst@student.utwente.nl)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu
Subject: Nyquist and other electro stuff
Message-ID: <9502271431.1D3414@tdm123.student.utwente.nl>
I don't know if this has to do with this DT digest, but I wan't to
mention something about the Nyquist frequency Hairball talked about.
I thought the Nyquist frequency is twice the bandwith of your
signal, this isn't exact the same as two times the highest
frequency.
Philips is using this in the PASC coding of DCC's. They cut the
whole audio spectrum in pieces of 600 Hz. each. All these pieces of
the spectrum are sampled at a rate of 1200 Hz. This reduces the bits
that are neaded to represent the whole audio signal. So a part of
the reduction in the DCC system takes place through smart coding.
The other part of reducing the amount of bits takes place by leaving
parts out of the signal that are masked by other signals. (In time
and frequency domain).
If you wan't to know more about the Pasc coding, please e-mail me.
Twan
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I'm caught in the Web
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Twan Korthorst
m.t.korthorst@student.utwente.nl
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 09:19:53 -0500 (EST)
From: BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: YTSE Convention
Message-ID: <01HNJEHD9OC2000NTD@sgenva.CC.GENESEO.EDU>
Hello everyone. Here is an update on our Ytse Convention:
So far the response has been really good for the eastern seaboard. I am
really glad to hear from people in Rochester since I am a half and hour
south of there. I have a friend in Long Island who recommended the
Marriott next to the Nassau Coliseum. Since I am still trying to gather
the total number of people and pinpoint their locations we still don't
have a definite site. From what I gather mid-June appears to be the time
that everyone would like to have this. I still am looking for ideas/advice.
I love the idea of the covers gigs, dream bands,etc. You all are getting me
really nervous about this. I want this to go well and everyone's like
let's make this really big. I had a dream the other night that we were in
some dark auditorium and James walked on stage and turned to tell someone in
the band "is this all the ytsejams there are?" and then he walked off stage.
I hope that this is just a panic attack of my sub-conscious! Be patient
everyone, I'm trying! I understand that there has been rumblings on the
West Coast of having a convention out there? At this point I'm ready to
pack up my bikini and go!!!!!!! I promise you all I will get more focused on
this. I had a rough weekend (an unexpected call from an ex-boyfriend) -
you know that special someone that you should have never gotten mixed up with
in the first place :) Take care and I will be writing.
-BABS
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 09:58:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Minimal DT Content! =)
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.90.950227093531.13599A-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
> From: Mats Rydstr\vm <d94-mry@nada.kth.se>
> Subject: WDADU production
> well and I like the trigged snare but some of his chinas/crashes sound
> like shit and also
I take it you mean I&W. Personally, I can't STAND that snare
sound. It has no life. Just a big heavy thud. Blech.
Re: Matti-
> Have any of you drummers out there heard the record Burning for Buddy,
> produced by Neil Peart? If you have, tell me if it's good.
Well, I'm not really a drummer, but, I'll tell you - that album
is phenomenal. Very good material, nice production.
> PS.Sorry, my poor english.
Matti, your english is better than many Americans. =) Don't worry.
> 5. Why is the name of Dream Theater as it is, and not Dream Theatre?
> Is this the difference between English (I've learned at school) and
> American English?
> Twan Korthorst
It's like the band Living Colour. In American, a language so
different than the "King's English" that I don't even call it English, we
spell it "Color."
Here, "Colour" kinda sticks out to our eyes, looking different
than the spelling we are accustomed to. However, in England (and I
remember seeing a video tape of a band member saying this), people said,
"Yeah, So?" =)
Basically, it's just an alteration of a spelling. There's a few
other instances of it in the language of American.
The color/colour that is a combination of black & white is
spelled two ways here:
Gray and Grey.
Both are acceptable.
Don't worry too much about things like that. We'll know what
you're talking about. <grin>
Always trying to do something helpful,
Hairball
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 07:59:39 MST
From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: boot list available!
Message-ID: <FAF785288F@UCS.ISU.EDU>
Hey, Jason,
I'd really appreciate that boots list. I've been searching
everywhere to find them and have no clue as to where I may find them.
The onle boolts I know the names of are the DT boots. Do you have
any info on QR boots?
ThanX,
ChucK
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 08:08:41 MST
From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Controversey - Portnoy vs. Peart
Message-ID: <FB1E356969@UCS.ISU.EDU>
>Even though Portnoy was influenced by Peart, I believe that Portnoy
>has taken drum playing to new heights with his melodic type beats.
Ya, man.
I really like Portnoy's drum style a hell of a lot more than
Peart's. Mike likes to play the drums as an instrument in the band
rather than a plain old rhythm section. Every time he hits a drum it
blends in with the music. He has drums tuned for every key on the
musical scale. Neil (IMHO) is an excellent drummer who can keep the
whole song together with all of the signature changes, etc, but
Mike's better than he is now. (But, of course, Geddy's the one and
only bass player in my book, next to Steve and Cliff)
BTW, whoever made that post about Zonder being an awesome
drummer, where do you get this from? All of the stuff I've heard him
play are simple 4/4 beats that may alternate between 6/4, or 5/4, but
he hardly ever uses any drum fills, double bass (I don't even think
he uses it at all), or cymbal rides (there is one good song where he
does do this and I love it). He doesn't really rip it up at all on
either of the two albums I've got.
ChucK
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 10:13:25 -0500 (EST)
From: An Angel's Kiss... <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: More Thoughts:
Message-ID: <m0rj7Bd-00036hC@donews.cts.com>
>
>
> About this whole Ytsejam Convention/Gathering idea:
>
> It's a great idea...but, um...does anyone live nearer to Philly than Long
> Island?
Well, I'm from Jersey, and I know a coupla people around me who
wouldn't mind takin' a road trip around this here parts....
>
> Sheesh. =) Although, I did nearly get into an accident approaching the
> Verazzano Bridge at sunrise. What a gorgeous sight. Made me so mad I
> didn't have my camera.
Sunset on the World Trade is very kewl too.....and I never have
a camera around either......oh well.....
- Al Balkiewicz
vocals, Half NAked
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 10:17:23 -0500
From: John B Ashcraft <jbashcra@uncc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Controversey - Portnoy vs. Pearty
Message-ID: <199502271517.KAA01630@unccsun.uncc.edu>
>>>>Either way, Mark Zonder beats them both.
No way!!! Doesn't he use a lot of triggers??
Peart is and always will be the king. Ask either of these drummers who is god
god and they will say Neil Peart!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Trey
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 95 10:30:14 EST
From: Greg "Big Brother" Lee <greg@aix.can.ibm.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Recording Shit 2
Message-ID: <199502271530.KAA20173@hal.mkm.aix.can.ibm.com>
> I can't believe someone wants me to explain why you can't hear John's
> bass. Well, you asked for it. =)
>
etc...etc..etc...
>
> Okay, more on mixing in the next mail. Any further ?'s on this, please
> email me directly. I think 90% of the net doesn't give a shit about this. =)
>
> Later,
> hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu
Not a bad lesson...perhaps the only thing missing was a little lesson
on the Fletcher Mundson curves...Yes, I probably spelled those names wrong!
Greg.
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 10:31:28 -0500 (EST)
From: An Angel's Kiss... <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: DoE for sale
Message-ID: <m0rj7T9-0001MJC@donews.cts.com>
>
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Since I will soon be be getting another copy of Dance of
> > Eternity (thanks Mike), I am going to sell my current copy.
> >
> > Anyone interested, I'm selling it for $35 including shipping.
> >
> > Email me if interested.
> >
> > Mike.
>
> What is the purpose of this?
>
> Z.
>
The question I have is - where the hell is the E-mail address?
- Al
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 10:35:03 -0500 (EST)
From: Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Random Thoughts...
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.90.950227095831.13599B-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
> From: Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca>
> Subject: Re: Recording Shit 2
> thanks a lot for the lesson! i've learned a lot...well no yet, but i
> did save the article and will go through it later. :)
Wow, I'm reference material! =)
> a question to you all:
> name an album that you think has the best mix in your opinion.
Oh, Lord! Uh...lemme get back to you on that one. =)
Personally, Michael Morales's "Thump" takes the cake for glossy
production. It's a pop-rock record, now out of print. As cheesy as some
of the things on it are, the recording is nearly perfect.
On the harder side, King's X's "Dogman" is one of my favorites.
As for "THE PERFECT MIX," that's difficult. I'll get back to you
in a few daze on that. =)
============
> Seriously, I think this thread is about as interesting as a Richie Sambora
> guitar lesson. Can we put it to bed?:)
> Steve Z
Not to further split off the topic, but, there is at least ONE
nice thing I will say about Richie Sambora. If you pick up the
"Adventures of Ford Fairlane" soundtrack (it should be in the bargain
bin), Richie does a bang-up job on Hendrix's "Wind Cries Mary."
I used to think he was a wanker. But, after hearing this, I my
opinion was changed. I now think he's an IDIOT for staying in that
lame-ass band. The guitar playing, and his vocals were dead on. And the
production's actually very good.
Just my .02 - And, no, I don't like BonJovi. =)
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> From: "Brian V. Cox" <bvc8995@tam2000.tamu.edu>
> Subject: Galactic Cowboys have broken up
> sorry to say this to everyone, but i just heard about it. A few days
> ago Dane Sonnier and Alan Doss left Galactic Cowboys. The band is no
> more.
Oh, god, this sucks. I'm going to go commit suicide.
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> i thought i remember someone saying that erotomania is like, religion
> mania, not sex mania. cuz that's called nymphomania
Erotomania is a mental disorder in which the afflicted believes
that a celebrity has a sexual interest in them.
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> Subject: THIS IS FOR HAIRBALL
> Ever think about being a producer? ;-)
Um, no...actually, I just carry all of this technical information
around in my head to pick up women. They love it when I whisper, "Roll
off at 50hz to eliminate muddiness & grunge" in their ears.
(sorry, sarcasm! <grin>)
Truth be known, I've learned all this shit because I want to have
my own studio someday, or, at least work for one. I truly want my band to
make it so I can afford this studio, which is to be built into the
basement of my yet undesigned home. (Dad's an architect, ya know?)
> Get in there and 'fix' John's sound so we can hear it. I guess it may not be
> possible since I did not understand your post too much, I know nothing about
> mixing. I guess it's the way he plays.
> _____(_)____/ /__ #########/ Rick Booth; rbooth@galaxy.galstar.com /~###
1st of all, if there's something you didn't understand, then, I
didn't explain it clearly enough. Second, if there's something I can help
you with, let me know, via email to me.
Um, I don't think it has a lot to do with his playing style. It's
tone. It's the bass. It's a lot of things. John's a very competent
bassist, technique-wise. Honestly, I think a lot of it had to do with the
production and engineering.
Awake is a great step forward. Full, yet, it cuts. =)
==================================
> P.S. Has anyone else noticed that the line quoted by LaBrie at the end
> of "Pull Me Under" is actually "O, that this too too SULLIED flesh would
> melt..."? (Hamlet 1.2.129)
Actually, I hadn't. Thanks. Somewhere, I have a text file that someone
posted about the whole PMU/Hamlet references. I dunno if everyone else
here has seen it, but, I imagine they have. =) Send me email, and I'll
mail it to you.
==============================
> I'm a professional bassist (9 years). I agree with many: John's sound
> could use something. A little boost around the 2KHz area, maybe.
> Could you imagine all three DT discs with a brutal, punchy
> Geddyesque sound cutting through the mix? Being able to hear ALL
> of John's technical prowess in crisp detail? That would just make
> Dream Theater even more mind blowing than they are. Whew!
> Russ Brooks
Russ - Couldn't agree more. However, if you caught my last post,
my assessment of what happened during mixing was that masking occurred,
with Petrucci's guitar, and Mike's Kick & Snare (samples, gag), ate that up.
Also, the problem with knocking up that 2k is if you hit it too
hard, it sounds overly bright. It's a great idea, however, and, correct
proceedure.
I'm also a bassist, guitarist, keyboardist & vocalist. =)
===============================================
> And would it be called Galactic Crossing?
Doh, that's funny! haha... =)
Still, not a bad idea.
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 10:46:58 -0500
From: John Mastin <jmastin@motown.ge.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 720
Message-ID: <199502271546.KAA15263@cybertron>
who ytsejam
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 10:59:29 -0500
From: John Mastin <jmastin@motown.ge.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: playing catch-up
Message-ID: <199502271559.KAA15270@cybertron>
Hi everybody.
I am in the process of catching up on my 'jams from the weekend. Sorry
if I am talking about topics already covered. :) I've got 5 'jams to
get through. Some of this is non-DT!!!!!
1. Addressed to Hairball: I read your post and yes, I live rather close
Philly. Actually closer to Trenton. I live in new Jersey right across
river from Levittown. A teeny place called Florence. Where is your band
playing locally? I'd like to drop by and see you play if work let's me
out long enough.. ;) Yo man, your knowledge about sound is incredible.
My hat's off to you...
2. Michelle Garcia: Happy belated birthday. :) Hope it was grand!
3. The send your signature thing: Thanks for the post, Hairball. Stuff
like that can really throw a wrench into the free speech thing. I say
send them your signature. Let them know you like things the way they are.
We don't want Big Brother here! :D
4. Which latenight talk show: DT would be best suited for the Jon Stewart
show. His crowd would be the most receptive to them.
5. Internet mooching: I'm an Internet moocher. :) Really though, I don't
have a PC at home let alone a Internet connection. SO, all of this babbling
come from yup, you got it, work. I guess I might fall prey into the catagory
of those who might dissappear. I work on computers all day; I really don't
want to sit at one too much when it is leasure time. You don't really have
many auto mechanics who say to themselves, *Shoot, I think I'll go home and
work on some cars, for fun.* At my previous job, I was literally tied to a
laptop and a beeper. It changed my life and instantly I had no life. Now
that I changed jobs, I don't have this techno-wart on me. And I am learning
to have a life again that is separate from work. Sad, thrown into the rat
race at a young age. Too much responsibilities and no pay! Ahh such is life
and enough of my bitching... put away your violins!
6. OK the DT stuff: Yes, I would cough up the extra tape for the covers gig.
Also too, I went out and found WDADU this weekend and got it. Most
interesting. :D If is a little more commercial then what I am used to but
(and I might get flamed for this) Charlie didn't sound all that bad with
them. I did see how his influence was more of the glam material and DT
isn't really into coming out with bubblegum music. But an enjoyable album,
none the less. It was neat to hear the studio version of Ytsejam... :D
7. I do have some thoughts on the SloppyJoe69 thing. It is not a flame; I am
coming to the conclusion that Ken Bibb was right about the forged user...
More about that soon. I've been stewing some stuff in my head over the
weekend.... (Just because I don't take and use a computer at home doesn't
mean that I don't think about them.. God help me, I'm sick.) :P
More soon,
Johnny
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 09:02:30 MST
From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: THIS IS FOR HAIRBALL
Message-ID: <FC03F84009@UCS.ISU.EDU>
>Hairball:
>Ever think about being a producer? ;-) Get in there and 'fix' John's
>sound so we can hear it. I guess it may not be possible since I did
>not understand your post too much, I know nothing about mixing. I
>guess it's the way he plays. Oh well. I wish he'd play more like
>Geddy Lee, I can always hear Geddy really nice.
Ignoring all of this technical shit I've been hearing about
compressors and reverbs and the like, I have only one thing to say to
you techies....
If you can't hear the damn thing, turn the main volume up! It
sounds like Myungs playing through a nice little 4" speaker with
everyone else booming out of 15"ers. I don't know if Myung's shy
about his basslines and doesn't want them to be heard or if the
producers keeps bumping his elbow against the Myung's volume control
but no matter how compressed a signal gets, you can always turn it up
to hear it better.
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 09:15:06 MST
From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Dream Theater info/ Steve Taylor...
Message-ID: <FC397D19B3@UCS.ISU.EDU>
>like Saviour Machine, Torman Maxt and an old band, called Haven.
>These bands prove that Christian Rock can be progressive too!!
Has anyone ever heard of the band called Crossfire?
They're a Christian rock band and I've heard it has all of the
members of QR except Geoff Tate. Anyone verify this?
ChucK
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 09:00:03 -0800 (PST)
From: Jim Beavens <beavenj@ECE.ORST.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: "Ytse"???
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950227085234.11832B-100000@holmes.ece.orst.edu>
Now that I've finally gotten on the list, I thought I'd test it out by
asking a question I'm curious about (don't worry, it's an easy one, and
has probably been answered before...)
How do you pronounce "ytse"?
Is it "white-see"?
or maybe "yutzee" or "yetzee?"
how about "it-see"?
I'm sure someone has heard the band pronounce it before...any ideas?
Thanks!
Jim
Jim Beavens |"Early to rise and early to bed,
Oregon State University | makes a man wise but socially dead."
Electrical & Computer Engineering |
beavenj@ECE.ORST.EDU | -- Animaniacs
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 95 12:05:59 EST
From: John Ambrose <jambrose@eden.rutgers.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 719
Message-ID: <CMM-RU.1.4.793904759.jambrose@er5.rutgers.edu>
Hello, fellow 'Jammers!
First off, I am an unabashed Rush fanatic. I like Dream Theater, and
I think Mike Portnoy is an excellent drummer. Of course, I prefer Neil
Peart, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
One thing I would like to take exception with, though, is the notion
that Portnoy plays "harder" than Peart. If you're comparing Portnoy's
"Metropolis" with Peart's "Tai Shan," I guess you're right. But, even
Portnoy's heaviest parts don't compare with such rockers as "The Temples of
Syrinx" and "Cygnus X-1."
--John
P.S. This is not a flame!
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 11:30:54 C
From: freel@iowa.physics.uiowa.edu
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: RE: In Defense of One "Goth"
Message-ID: <0098C9BE.0C16A6C0.29@iowa.physics.uiowa.edu>
In Ytsejam #705, Zach said:
>>Of course. The "Alternative" [music] crowd, are a bunch of hypocrites
to think that they are the 90's equivalent of "counter-culture". The
whole scene is a sad parody of itself.<<
Speaking of which... anybody else notice that the lyrics to Fates' "Static
Acts" perfectly mocks the so-called alternative scene of today? (Of course it
wasn't written to; Perfect Symmetry came out in 89...)
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 10:32:15 MST
From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Hello there I'm new
Message-ID: <FD82ED1C50@UCS.ISU.EDU>
This is for Twan, read it if you like, if you don't, skip it...
>1. Who, Why, What is Ytsejam? (I also found it on several WWW pages)
It's majesty spelled backwards, th name of the band before they
changed it to Dream Theater (because of copyright laws)
>2. Reading about the .com .edu etc disussion I'm wondering: How many
>subscribers are in Europe?
Cant' tell ya...
>3. I found on the net a DT demo for Windows, was it really as bad as
>I saw, or did I miss something?
Never heard of it, tell me where you found it, tho.. :)
>4. Because of the fact that the radio stations in the Netherlands
>doesn't pay much attention to Dream Theater, I missed the why of
>Moore's leaving the band. At MTV's Headbangers Ball they also didn't
>pay attention to it. The members of the band repeated several times
>the band grew tighter to each other (is this English?), but when
>somebody leaves a band this isn't ok, is it?
Kevin left the band to take on a solo career and for possibly other
reasons I think few of us may know about. I don't think his heart
was into the music as much as he wanted it to be because the music
was not all his. I understand how he feels about this, because there
are times when, in a band, you don't agree with a song someone else
comes up with and a small ego problem arises. You end up fighting
over who the better songwriter is and songs that could have been
great, get dropped.
>5. Why is the name of Dream Theater as it is, and not Dream Theatre?
>Is this the difference between English (I've learned at school) and
>American English?
This is how it's spelled in America (especially when referring to
movie theaters.) The old (and therefore proper english) spelling for
it is Theatre. Reading old texts and such, you will find this.
what: I succeeded in getting a ticket!! Yoeghee!!
^^^^^^^
What? Well same to you buddy! ;)
>Further I want to mention that if someone is missing the bass parts
>of John, I think it's time to buy another pair of speakers. I myself
>enjoy his parts very much.
I've tried. I run my DT stuff through my 15" bass speaker, and it
does me no good. all I get is Mike's bass drum...
>Twan
Hope I helped!
ChucK
P.S. Sorry for posting this on the list. It won't happen again.
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