YTSEJAM Digest 904
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 903
by BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu
2) RE: Providence gig
by Corporate Community Relations <buckley@powdml.enet.dec.com>
3) who's the most important person in the band
by mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
4) RE: YTSEJAM digest 903
by crumemg@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU
5) Ronnie Scotts Gig
by omman@solar.sky.net
6) CPI
by Potestatem@aol.com
7) Hi You out there!!!!
by jan.melander@got.wmdata.se (Jan Melander)
8) Re: CPI
by jbako01 <jbako01@barney.poly.edu>
9) Re[2]: Lyrics to ACOS
by mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
10) Re: Prog music etc...
by euan@waikato.ac.nz
11) Re: CPI
by Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
12) Re: Boot question
by Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
13) Fates Warning ** NDTC **
by jjens@osf1.gmu.edu (tooler)
14) Re: Mike's multitute of projects
by jjens@osf1.gmu.edu (tooler)
15) Bassist Thread
by "Dan Tshin" <danman@orbonline.net>
16) DT: DEMO CD'S: Majesty 86, Instrumental, Instrumental II, RP!
by CCSU '95 ALUMNI QUINNIPIAC LAW '98 <LODGE_TIM@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU>
17) AD
by nguyen john t <jtnguyen@cs.twsu.edu>
18) JP's acoustic guitar.
by Aviad Hay <aviad@mail.snunit.k12.il>
19) Re: Boot question and More (not Moore)
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
20) IRC info
by debraun@fresno.edu (Randall Braun)
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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 09:04:54 -0500 (EST)
From: BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 903
Message-ID: <01HTBJPK972W0001SK@sgenva.CC.GENESEO.EDU>
Greetings Earthlings, it's Babs (sorry couldn't resist - Marvin the Martian
is my favorite Looney Tunes character). I need to direct this post to
a person who emailed me before the convention. His name was M. McIntosh.
At first I wasn't sure if this was a legit y'jammer or if it was Mike P
playing some kind of joke on me. If you are truly with us M. McIntosh, please
email me direct because I need to double-check your address before mailing
something out to you.
Thank you.
-BABS
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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 95 09:14:58 EDT
From: Corporate Community Relations <buckley@powdml.enet.dec.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: RE: Providence gig
Message-ID: <9507261310.AA27230@us2rmc.zko.dec.com>
David B. Kuznick (david@pharlap.CI.COM) wrote:
>Could the Boston-area Ytsejammers that are going to the DT show in
>Providence please get in touch with me? I have a car and would like
>to work out some carpooling, etc. I also haven't gotten a ticket yet,
>and since I assume the Strand is reserved seating (it's like The
>Orpheum, no?), if anyone also hasn't gotten their seats yet (or has an
>extra ticket), I'ld rather sit with another 'jammer, than by myself.
Just FYI --
The strand is NOT like the Orpheum in Boston ... at least not anymore.
Sure, it's a "theater" -- however, the place has been pretty much gutted,
and converted to a full blown nightclub.
There is seating in the balcony, but the General Public are not allowed
up there -- it's for lighting people and club staff only. The main floor
of the hall has had ALL of the seats ripped out of it, so the shows there
are General Admission and standing room only!
Don't expect great sound -- I saw DT there for their very first show of
the "Awake" world tour, and the sound was *very* loud and not very clear.
At least the visuals were good -- the stage is large enough to accommodate
DT's stage and lighting rig.
Happy rails, ....
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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 10:34:41 -0500
From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: who's the most important person in the band
Message-ID: <v01510102ac3bff1abd81@[199.232.46.229]>
I was gonna try to stay out of this "who's the most important person in the
band" until Phil (FilDBaskt@aol.com) attacked my instrument ;).
> Being a drummer I can honestly say
No you can't. You're biased. As am I. Watch.
Someone recently said that he thinks it's the whole band. Not any one
person - at least as far as prog goes. Like VH isn't a progressive band -
it's Eddie Van Halen's band. If Eddie split, Alex would still be there so
it could still be Van Halen but they'd be playing clubs real soon. Think of
Yes. They went from Bill Bruford (!!!) to Alan White (?). I don't remember
Alan ever doing anything terribly impressive. Chris Squire said it was like
going from Mr. Technique to Mr. Feel. Anyway, Yes is a prog band and so
they stayed even with other personell changes.
> Keyboardist and Singer: These guys are really common
Where the HELL do you live?? If I wanted to start a band and started
looking for a singer, I'd have a hard time finding anyone good. Same with a
keyboardist. A good singer is hard to come by - esp. one that knows
anything about music as opposed to posing.
> Bassist: No offense to bassists out there, but bass is
> almost always a background instrument which stands out the
> least in nearly any kind of music, especially prog
Well, maybe to the first part, but prog is where the bass gets to shine.
I'm thinking of Rush (best bassist so many times he can't win anymore), Yes
(Squire is a major influence on many players), DT. Prog music is where the
bassist isn't stuck peddling the root. He can do more. A good bassist is
important to a prog band.
I really think it's the whole band. DT could replace their keyboardist (oh
yeah, they did) with someone different, but just as good (I'm hoping
anyway) and still go on. The point is that they need someone who's really
good. The whole band has to be good players and work together.
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Marc Respass
mer@sol.iii.net
http://www.iii.net/users/mer/Welcome.html
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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:42:48 CDT
From: crumemg@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 903
Message-ID: <00993ED5.65435CC0.24@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU>
Can someone mail me the lyrics to A change of Season and To Live F9orever.
? I have the boot Tragedy/Comedy, 2 CD set, and it is pretty good.
I love the song ACoS but would like to figure out the rest of the words
to it and T:LF. I did not have any trouble understanding the words to
Eve so please dont send those also.
Lattimer
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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:48:46 -0500
From: omman@solar.sky.net
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Ronnie Scotts Gig
Message-ID: <199507261648.LAA24512@sky.net>
Does anyone have a copy of the Ronnie Scotts
Cover Gig that they would be willing to make
a copy for me? Email me if you would! Thanx!
James
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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 15:05:54 -0400
From: Potestatem@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: CPI
Message-ID: <950726150553_123489353@aol.com>
Does anyone know about this club?
DT is playing there on friday, and I want to go. I checked out their web site
and it said free entry 21 and over, or $5 for 19 or 20 year old women. Being
a 20 year old guy, I'm a little miffed. Does anyone know if the $5 cover
applies to guys as well? I live in the middle of Nassau county, and it would
be a shame to drive all the way to Hampton Bays and not be allowed in.
Thanks.
BTW- in case no one else posts this, that cool U2 song is called "Hold me,
Thrill me, Kiss me, Kill me"
--Dan (potestatem@aol.com)
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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 22:19:57 +0200
From: jan.melander@got.wmdata.se (Jan Melander)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Hi You out there!!!!
Message-ID: <v01530501ac3c4d7a6df6@[164.9.165.239]>
Hi everybody,
I'm new here on the list so I better introduce myself.
My name is Jan Melander, I'm 31 years old working as a programmer and
playing guitar semi-pro with a band called Spaceman SPIFF in Gothenburg,
Sweden.
Just become DAD for the first time a month a go and gave my daughter a
pre-birth present in form of a wonderful Dream Theater consert in Malmoe
this spring.
I'd like to make a comment on the discussion about the 'most important'
band member.
Let's turn this question around and ask who is the WORST?
The answer is: the one who tries to play above his/hers abilities!
When It comes down to bussiness, playing in a band is about to lock
together with Your band mates and deliver a great song.
To get there is to know Your limitations and Your strength as a band and
arrange the music there after, the drummer does not need to be as
pyrotecnical as Mike P to put up a good grove but if he can, it might be
the cream on the cake.
One of the most important talent You got to have as a musician is Taste,
knowing when to stretch out and to know when to shut up, do the right thing
for the song.
To have said all this a decent band can still get good response by having a
great singer since most people in this world can't tell the difference
between the bass player and the guitar player and for them are 80% of their
musical experience based on the vocals.
By the way, does anyone know were to get DT bootlegs in Sweden?
Cheers,
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"Until the circle breaks and wisdom lies ahead,
The faithful live Awake, the rest remain misled"
Innocence Faded - Dream Theater
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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 17:30:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: jbako01 <jbako01@barney.poly.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: CPI
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950726172828.26432A-100000@barney>
On Wed, 26 Jul 1995 Potestatem@aol.com wrote:
> Does anyone know about this club?
> DT is playing there on friday, and I want to go. I checked out their web site
> and it said free entry 21 and over, or $5 for 19 or 20 year old women. Being
> a 20 year old guy, I'm a little miffed. Does anyone know if the $5 cover
> applies to guys as well? I live in the middle of Nassau county, and it would
> be a shame to drive all the way to Hampton Bays and not be allowed in.
> Thanks.
>
Somehow, I get the feeling that it doesn't apply to guys. I'll barely be
able to get my girlfriend in, she just turned 19 (I'm 22).
btw, I called the club's hotline (516)728-4121. NO mention of echolyn,
whatsoever. I still might go anyway. If anyone else is heading out there,
let's arrange some kind of meet out there.
Later,
James Bako
jbako01@barney.poly.edu
Polytechnic University
Brooklyn, New York
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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 95 14:02:03 PST
From: mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re[2]: Lyrics to ACOS
Message-ID: <9506268067.AA806792749@CCGATE.HAC.COM>
From: Lattimer
CRUMEMG@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU
>>Can someone mail me the lyrics to A change of Season and To Live
>>F9orever. ? I have the boot Tragedy/Comedy, 2 CD set, and it is
You can get the lyrics to these (and more!) from the Dream Theater Song Book
(plug, plug) available at the following locations (not available in stores :-)
WWW = http://www.indirect.com/www/mkizer/index.htm
FTP = www.indirect.com/www/mkizer/dt_sb10.txt
If you can't get it this way, send me a note and I'll email it to you.
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 09:16:06 +1200
From: euan@waikato.ac.nz
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Prog music etc...
Message-ID: <v01510101ac3c5d69a10d@[130.217.176.35]>
>Bassist: No offense to bassists out there, but bass is almost always a
>background instrument which stands out the least in nearly any kind of music,
>especially prog. Because of this, a poor bassist in a prog band really
>wouldn't make all that mushc difference.
Hate to disagree with you here - but the reason why the bass is seldom
heard is solely the responsiblity of the production team. DT's albums are
like VH's in the respect of having really high guitar and/or key levels but
having the bass backed way down in the mix. If you listen to Seventies
prog music, the bass sometimes even lead the song (cf. Yes - Roundabout.
That song revolutionized bass tones and the song would sound terrible with
the bass turned down, IMHO).
I think JM is DT's best kept secret. That guy is amazing! I would really
like to hear more of him in future recordings.
My definition of prog music in general is not just about wierd time sigs
and clipped phrasing, it's the general approach to the music. The
production, the lyrics, the presentation of the material, all aspects
can (and should be) be manipulated to produce something wonderful.
IMHO - DT has been compromised by using "standardized" production
techniques and as a result the sound has become more "accessable" and
easier to listen to. They will sell a lot more records, but I feel that
they are losing their progressiveness a little. If the band took a turn
away from the commercial side of things - I know I would still listen to
them and I'm sure most of you would too. Sure we'd have a massive flame
war about what happened but don't tell me that hasn't happened before.
Enough rambling - ON WITH THE JAM!!
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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 20:19:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: CPI
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950726201358.2566H-100000@oak.liii.com>
On Wed, 26 Jul 1995 Potestatem@aol.com wrote:
> Does anyone know about this club?
It's in Hampton Bays. On Montauk Highway at the Shinnecock Canal.
> DT is playing there on friday, and I want to go. I checked out their web site
> and it said free entry 21 and over, or $5 for 19 or 20 year old women.
I couldn't believe this when I heard it. Is this legal??
> Being
> a 20 year old guy, I'm a little miffed. Does anyone know if the $5 cover
> applies to guys as well? I live in the middle of Nassau county, and it would
> be a shame to drive all the way to Hampton Bays and not be allowed in.
The # for their hotline is (516)-728-4121. I don't have a voice #.
The ad also says "Proper Attire". Huh?? Ytsejam shirts???
If all else fails, there's always a wig and lipstick. :)
Andy
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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 19:54:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: Boot question
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950726194911.2566C-100000@oak.liii.com>
On Wed, 26 Jul 1995, Mathew W. Yee wrote:
> [lurking device off]
>
> Gotta question for those in the know:
>
> I saw two copies of a boot called _Mind Control_ at a local store. From the
> set list of this 2CD collection, it's from an _Awake_ show in Japan
> with a couple of bonus tracks from the Ronny Scotts gig. (I think "Winter"
> was one of the tracks.
It's Tears and Silent Man and they must be from a radio broadcast and not
the Ronnie Scott's gig. Nice clear sound on those two.
>
> I'm wondering if it's worth getting. I don't remember seeing anyone talk
> about this, so I'm curious if anyone has a copy and can relate quality info.
> What I mean is: how's the sound quality? Is it soundboard, or is it some
> guy in the audience with a good rig, or is it some guy outside with a
> shotgun mike?
It must be from the Japan Pay=Per=View. The date is 1/24/95 (which is the
same date as the Wake Up boot). Sound is much better than the average
boot, but LaBrie's voice has seen better nights.
One thing I really dig is on 'Another Day'. Right after "surrender to the
secret", Mike pauses a second or two before coming in and John holds that
one huge note a bit longer than usual. Have they done this at other shows?
Andy
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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 21:52:22 -0400
From: jjens@osf1.gmu.edu (tooler)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Fates Warning ** NDTC **
Message-ID: <9507270152.AA29422@osf1.gmu.edu>
hey all,
just received this from Maria at Metal Blade Records:
>Jim Matheos has just filled me in.... Frank has left to persue a more
>jazz/blues style of music. Joe, on the other hand is still intact. They
>will write and record the new material as a four piece and may or may not
>look for someone else when it comes time to tour. As it stands now, their
>next album should be available around April/May but we all know how maleable
>those dates get.
>
>Also, the release date for their 'best of' compilation "Chasing Time" has
>been moved ahead to August 8th...sorry people...
>
>
>Maria
>Metal Blade Records
john c. jens, jr. jjens@gmu.edu http://www.site.gmu.edu/~jjens/
"I know nothing of God, or the Devil. I have never seen a vison nor learned
a secret that would damn or save my soul." Anne Rice
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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 21:52:52 -0400
From: jjens@osf1.gmu.edu (tooler)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Mike's multitute of projects
Message-ID: <9507270152.AA27489@osf1.gmu.edu>
>07/30/1995 - Rush: Cygnus released/shipping (this is more or less solid)
>08/15/1995 - Dream Theater: "Acoustic Dreams" ordering begins
huh huh, huh huh...kool
>09/30/1995 - Dream Theater: "Acoustic Dreams" released/shipping
great...5 weeks into skool; first major test of the semester :)
>10/15/1995 - Public Affection: "The Death of a Dictionary" ordering begins
yes! finally i'll hear this...
>11/15/1995 - Dream Theater: "When Dream and Today Unite" ordering begins
hmmm did i miss something? wasnt it called "When Dream and JAMES Unite"?? i
mean, i kinda grew fond of the old title. like an old friend. but i guess
old things tend to die :)
>11/30/1995 - Public Affection: "The Death of a Dictionary" released/shipping
excellent! right in time for mid-term exams!!
>12/25/1995 - Dream Theater: "When Dream and Today Unite" released/shipping
jingle bells, jingle bells....
>02/--/1996 - Rush: To be announced
too bad i'm not a fan...
>04/--/1996 - Live or Type O-Negative: To be announced
+live+ defly...typo, maybe...
>06/--/1996 - Dream Theater: To be announced
hehehehehe more! More! MORE!
i'm going to bed now...:)
buh-bye :)
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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 23:35:55 -0500
From: "Dan Tshin" <danman@orbonline.net>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Bassist Thread
Message-ID: <m0sbJkZ-000g8iC@george.orbonline.net>
Hi,
I've read a lot about this good/sux bassist part.
In my opinion, I think the ideal band/situation is where everyone is
a outstanding or good player (not mediocre) and they have good
chemistry... for example... DT!!
I believe that a good Bassist is important. Having been brought up in
a classical music background, I know how important each part of the
music and score is to the whole song or piece. Can you imagine Bach
without the bass counterpoint?? Ouch. Each part complements the other
parts.
I feel the same way about prog rock. John M DOES play counterpoint to
the guitar sometimes. It takes talent to play that way. DT wouldn't
be the same without John (or a good bass player, for that matter).
I personally dig good bass players, both technically and groovily
(?). As a guitarist, I find bassists very important.
I know that John hasn't had much coverage, but I hope he'll get known
more. Of course guitarists get more publicity than bassists, but
c'est la vie!!
Anyways, less than 24 h to the QR concert!!
----> Dan Tshin <-------->> danman@orbonline.net <----"Ryche"-+
Shad Valley Carleton '94 SuRvIvOr | _ _ |
Homepage URL: http://www.orbonline.net/~danman | ( /V\ ) |
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what | M |
he cannot lose." -- Jim Elliot "The faithful live Awake/ | | |
The rest remain misled" -- "Awake" Dream Theater | | |
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 1:10:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: CCSU '95 ALUMNI QUINNIPIAC LAW '98 <LODGE_TIM@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT: DEMO CD'S: Majesty 86, Instrumental, Instrumental II, RP!
Message-ID: <950727011007.2040767b@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU>
I saw someone on the Jam paid $45 for 1 majesty demo cd? That's insane.
There is no need to pay those kinds of prices for single cd's.....
Anyways, Since I've been backlogged with orders for these cd's i've
gotten 60 of them to sell the first serious customers that want them.
They are:
DT: 1986 MAJESTY DEMOS. Original Demo featuring Chris Collins/Vox.
DT: INSTRU-mental I . The 1987 Recordings. Featuring WDAUD demos, plus
unreleased material (demo) and solo pieces from petrucci & portnoy.
DT: INSTRU-mental II. *NEW* Featuring more rare instrumental tracks including
the Rush cover YYZ, and the original demo for A Change of Seasons, and
much much more!
DT: Rising Power featuring Mike Portnoy: His band before DT. 1st time on CD.
Great DT novelty item!
For more detailed information including prices and ordering information,please
send email to:
BTW, I don't have sixty of each title, but about 15-25 of each.
Order now as quantities are definately limited, and may not be offered
online after this next ordering period.
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"The Faithful live AWAKE, the rest remain Misled"
-Dream Theater "Innocence Faded"
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 00:09:08 -0500 (CDT)
From: nguyen john t <jtnguyen@cs.twsu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: AD
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950727000604.18562A@emcity>
Hey Mike,
real quick, IMHO, I'd rather hear unplugged versions of 6:00 and Under
A Glass Moon rather than acoustic ACOS (that is, of course, if you have
those two songs acoustic). Just my $.02.
John Nguyen
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 95 8:51 +0300
From: Aviad Hay <aviad@mail.snunit.k12.il>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: JP's acoustic guitar.
Message-ID: <9507270555.AA23551@anthor.arastar.com>
>Does Petrucci use his classical guitar on any other songs except
>"learning to live"?
>
>
> ...Brandon
John plays his acoustic guitar (the nice orange one) at "Silent Man",
"Another Day" (where he doubles kevin's piano line).
Aviad H.
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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 95 20:29:35 PDT
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Boot question and More (not Moore)
Message-ID: <9507270329.AA07066@tengs1.teng>
>
> Gotta question for those in the know:
>
> I saw two copies of a boot called _Mind Control_ at a local store. From the
> set list of this 2CD collection, it's from an _Awake_ show in Japan
> with a couple of bonus tracks from the Ronny Scotts gig. (I think "Winter"
> was one of the tracks.
The two tracks are "Tears" and TSM. These are listed as "bonus
tracks" on the sleeve, which I think is funny since this is a
bootleg !>\>
> I'm wondering if it's worth getting.
Definitely! The two best things on it are Mike's solo (this
gets better every tour!) and "Another Crack in the Mirror"
(instrumental intro to "The Mirror").
And this brings up another subject (which anyone who's been
cruising a.r.m.p. with recognize), and this is Derek's writing
ability. The intro to TM, I think, is a good representation of
Derek's material (unless I'm wrong and someone else wrote it?).
I think this song sounds great. He has a definite style that
is different from Moore's but good all the same. I he can
write keyboard bits like this for the next album, I *won't*
be dissapointed.
>I don't remember seeing anyone talk
> about this, so I'm curious if anyone has a copy and can relate quality info.
> What I mean is: how's the sound quality? Is it soundboard, or is it some
> guy in the audience with a good rig, or is it some guy outside with a
> shotgun mike?
I believe it's from a Japanese radio braodcast. I think it sounds
good.
> If no one realates, I may just pick it up and give my impression, but I'd
> rather not waste my hard earn $$$ on a horrible boot.
>
> Mathew Yee
I've done enough of that! (mostly on Rush boots)
btw, does anyone know of any *good* boots from the
current QR tour that I should be looking for?
Zach
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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 10:42:17 -0700
From: debraun@fresno.edu (Randall Braun)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: IRC info
Message-ID: <v01520c01ac3bd08d31a0@[204.161.33.79]>
I got this from a document on IRC: Hope it can be helpful to someone:
(4) Where can I get source for an IRC client?
You can anonymous ftp to any of the following sites (use the
one closest to you): *** If you don't know what anonymous ftp is, ask
your local systems people to show you ***
UNIX client-> cs.bu.edu /irc/clients
ftp.acsu.buffalo.edu /pub/irc
ftp.funet.fi /pub/unix/irc
coombs.anu.edu.au /pub/irc
ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de /pub/comp/networking/irc/clients
slopoke.mlb.semi.harris.com /pub/irc
there is also a client avaliable with the server code.
EMACS elisp-> cs.bu.edu /irc/clients/elisp
ftp.funet.fi /pub/unix/irc/Emacs
ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de /pub/comp/networking/irc/clients
slopoke.mlb.semi.harris.com /pub/irc/emacs
lehtori.cc.tut.fi /pub/irchat
X11 client-> catless.ncl.ac.uk /pub
harbor.ecn.purdue.edu /pub/tcl/code
VMS -> cs.bu.edu /irc/clients/vms
coombs.anu.edu.au /pub/irc/vms
ftp.funet.fi /pub/unix/irc/vms
ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de /pub/net/irc
REXX client for VM-> cs.bu.edu /irc/clients/rxirc
ftp.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de /pub/irc/rxirc
ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de /pub/net/irc/VM
coombs.anu.edu.au /pub/irc/rxirc
ftp.funet.fi /pub/unix/irc/rxirc
MSDOS-> cs.bu.edu /irc/clients/msdos
ftp.funet.fi /pub/unix/irc/msdos
Macintosh-> cs.bu.edu /irc/clients/macintosh
sumex-aim.stanford.edu /info-mac/comm
ftp.funet.fi /pub/unix/irc/mac
ftp.ira.uka.de /pub/systems/mac
(15) Where can I learn more?
The best, basic, IRC user's manual is the IRC Primer,
available in plain text, PostScript, and LaTeX from
cs-ftp.bu.edu:/irc/support ... Another good place to start might be
downloading the IRC tutorials. They're avaliable via anonymous ftp
from cs-ftp.bu.edu in /irc/support/old*
I got this in a Mac archive called 'IRC_Mac_Clients.sea' from Sumex/Info-Mac
It has a number of Mac IRC programs and helpful documents (general, not
Mac-limited).
--Randall L. Braun--
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