YTSEJAM Digest 892
Today's Topics:
1) Similarities Engine Results
by Charlie Farrell <CFarrell@dataware.com>
2) Misc..
by atkinsro@ix.netcom.com (Rick Atkinson)
3) Re: popularity
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
4) Gripes, condolences, etc.
by mpatrick@holli.com (Mike Patrick)
5) DT decals...
by JennieBear@aol.com
6) The Dead
by Kverch@aol.com
7) Re: DT in LI
by Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
8) Living in Noman's Land
by ZapcoDT@aol.com
9) Re: Dream Theater...agnostic???
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
10) UNDIGESTING
by mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
11) DT in RI!
by mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
12) Agnostic DT?
by mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
13) Re: Bladerunner
by brax@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Bracken Odiorne)
14) Re: IRC channel
by tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen)
15) Various
by GBatesGT@aol.com
16) Re: Easter on ACoS?
by Qghost@aol.com
17) Other Prog Metal Bands
by Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
18) Trivia Answer & another, more serious question
by debraun@fresno.edu (Randall Braun)
19) Dream Theater...agnostic???
by JennieBear@aol.com
20) FMQB 7/7/95
by Erotomania@aol.com
21) Re: Various
by tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen)
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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 95 21:25:00 edt
From: Charlie Farrell <CFarrell@dataware.com>
To: "ytsejam (messages)" <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Similarities Engine Results
Message-ID: <3006FF7C@instigate.dataware.com>
>Your input was:
>
>No. Artist Recording
>---- ------------------------------ ----------------------------------
> 1 QUEENSRYCHE OPERATION: MINDCRIME
> 2 DREAM THEATER AWAKE
> 3 METALLICA METALLICA
> 4 TESTAMENT RITUAL
> 5 SATRIANI,JOE EXTREMIST
>
> ----- Results -----
> Tied items (of equal Weight) are alphabetized.
>
>No. Artist Recording
Weight
>---- ---------------------------- -------------------------------- ------
> 1 DREAM THEATER IMAGES & WORDS 666
> 2 FATES WARNING PARALLELS
268
> 3 QUEENSRYCHE RAGE FOR ORDER 149
I guess that there is a good chance that I'd love "Images and Words",
nevertheless an interesting result - I already have 7 of the first 14
titles recommended. Has anyone hit a title with a bigger weighting
or has the site been visited by a huge number of Dream Theatre
fans recently?
It also recommended ARCADE. Who are they? Are they worth
investigating?
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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 15:23:38 -0700
From: atkinsro@ix.netcom.com (Rick Atkinson)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Misc..
Message-ID: <199507142223.PAA11825@ix4.ix.netcom.com>
Sorry if this posts twice, I never got a confirmation that it went
thru.
I wanted to comment on a couple of things...
Easter
I agree with the person who posted earlier about hearing this song
by Marillion. It is truly awesome. I would be interested to hear
Labrie sing this one. I would also like to hear JP tackle the solo.
The solo is incredible but it is very restrained (alot of long bends
and tremelo vibrato by the guitarist Rothery) I would like to hear
JP's approach to see if he stays true to the original.
To anyone interested, Easter is on the album 'Seasons End'. It is
much more mellow than DT but I still highly recommend it.
Arcade
I found it very amusing that the web page picked Arcade as a
similar band as DT. I saw them a couple of years ago in a small club
in Atlanta. First of all, the band seemed to be in a hurry to get off
the stage since Pearcy kept yelling to the guitarist in between songs
to skip part of the setlist. Also, on numerous occasions, he said to
the crowd, "If you dont like what you hear, then just get the fuck out
of here" So, I did.
Kevin Moore
Thanks to Jennifer for bringing us up to date on KM. Please! keep
us posted on anything new you hear from him.
BTW, someone mentioned a song called 'Normal Words'. I dont seem
to recall this song on my copy of the demo. What's it like?
AD
Mike, I'm looking forward to hear you latest project. I think it
would be great if you could throw some more stuff from the RS gig or
other rarities on there. BTW, what does DT mgt think of all this?
One thing I've noticed from the Marillion FAQ, is that they have a
label solely dedicated to producing official bootlegs approved by the
band. Now, there's an idea...
I'll shut up now,
Rick A.
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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 95 17:43:29 PDT
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: popularity
Message-ID: <9507150043.AA29693@tengs1.teng>
> Most of the record stores,
> especially those known for having the obscure, had never
> heard of Dream Theater, and had never had any of their albums
> in stock. I was furious!!! I finally got a hold of the video, when
> a branch of Blockbuster music, located at Serramonte, had
> managed to special order and locate it, taking about 5 months.
> I also found a place called CD research, located all the way
> over in Davis, that gave me a two-page list with prices on
> DOE, LatM, WDADU, tSM, Lie, Wake up, etc. ranging from 30$
> per CD to 60$ per CD. Ridiculous. Anyways, to make a long
> story long, only one of my friends has ever seen DTon MTV,
> and between us, we've each heard PMU on the radio once, when
> they played it on 105 as we were all just leaving from a Prom.
>
> Viva la Dream!
>
> So long,
> Jun-Dai Bates
You tried the wrong places in the Bay Area! I obtained all
the above-mentioned, except for the "Lie" single, and "Wake
Up" (although I am watching for it) at the Compact Disc
Warehouse in Sunnyvale. They carry "imports" for most bands
(Rush, QR, Metallica, etc...). They cannot special order these,
however, one just has to wait for them to come in.
and Re: converting people to being DT fans,
I introduced 3 of my friends (the only ones who listen to
rock and metal) and another just this year. We are all
fanatics (but I am the most!). I've been trying to convert
my friend's 16 year old sister, but she listens to country
and Top 40 (including grunge), and I've had no luck. She
does like Live and Candlebox, so maybye there is hope...
some people are just lost causes.
Zach
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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 20:02:22 -0400
From: mpatrick@holli.com (Mike Patrick)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Gripes, condolences, etc.
Message-ID: <m0sWwCl-0009ibC@walnut.holli.com>
>U of Indiana
As a Hoosier alumn, I can't let this go by. Indiana University.
To Al, get better man. What else need to be said?
To the guy who said that Rupert Hine ruined Presto. Hey. Get some ears.
The man is a FUCKING GENIUS!!!!!!! And, gosh, they kept him around for RtB,
too. Hmmm... Not to mention what he did for the FIXX (one of history's
all-time underrated bands) and SAGA (gee, another one of history's all-time
underrated bands).
How about the heat? For all of you jammers out East, don't worry. Your
turn is coming.
Mike Patrick
mpatrick@holli.com
Still searching for that elusive corner of the Net where civility is all the
rage and the content is substantive. Ah, screw it. Who am I kidding?
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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 22:06:40 -0400
From: JennieBear@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT decals...
Message-ID: <950714220639_33044494@aol.com>
The following appeared in Ytsejam #888:
>Does there exist such a thing as Dream Theater window decals? I'd love
to put one on the back window of my truck. If anyone has ever seen
one, lemme know where. Thanks.<
I would be interested in this as well. At one of the "Awake" shows I
purchased one of those stickers and promptly put it on my back car window.
Unfortunately, the edges are starting to peel up. :( (Too much sun, I
think.)
Jen
-- "Could we see clearer in a virtual reality?" - Magellan "I am the beat of your pulse/the computer word made flesh" - Queensrychejenniebear@aol.com kethry@netcom.com
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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 22:05:46 -0400 From: Kverch@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: The Dead Message-ID: <950714220545_33046114@aol.com>
Y'all keep mentioning it...can you find me one for purchase on LASER DISC? Please...let me know SOON! Karen
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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 22:17:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: DT in LI Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950714221434.14489A-100000@oak.liii.com>
On Fri, 14 Jul 1995, George Bast (CS) wrote:
> Hi Ytsejammers! > > I still haven't gotten any definitive word on whether DT will perform in > Long Island on July 28th yet (anyone have word?).
It was advertised in a local paper.
>The original poster > stated that they will be playing at the Canoe Place Inn that night, so I > went upon myself to search the web, and tah-dah!.. found a website for > the place. If they are playing the CPI that night, there's a coupon on > that homepage which gives free admission every Friday night. I don't > know if that is honored for when a major band plays there, but it's worth > printing out and giving a try.
I've heard that those coupons are good for DT. A free show, Friday night, the Hamptons... I'd suggest getting there early.
Andy
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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 00:12:45 -0400 From: ZapcoDT@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Living in Noman's Land Message-ID: <950715001243_115286532@aol.com>
Hello again. I want to thank Zach for answering the band question. Anyways, up where I live, literally NOBODY listens to DT, Rush, or any prog. stuff. It's all country. All of it. Even my girlfriend is a country fanatic! I mean, I respect country musically, but it's really not my thing. Those that haver heard of the band think the only song they have out is PMU and group them with Nirvana as 'That Heavy Stuff' What a disgrace!! I really don't have a question, I just needed some sympathy. Also, I'd like to put another word in on the Potsdam thing: Anyone going up there this fall who would like to start a band write at ZapcoDT@aol.com. Later
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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 95 22:04:32 PDT From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Dream Theater...agnostic??? Message-ID: <9507150504.AA00668@tengs1.teng>
> > In the last Jam is was stated that while Rush seemed "atheistic," DT seemed > <to this person> to be "agnostic." Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought > that agnosicism was being neither theistic nor atheistic, but not caring > whether or not there is a God, or god, or supreme being, or whatever.
Actually, it is admitting to having no personal (metaphysical) knowledge of God (note that this does not disclude *any* metaphysical knowledge) but, at the same time, not denying his existence. I was probably off the mark when I said they are "agnostic." How about, "they posess a personal spirituality not affiliated (which is not to say "was not influenced by" with an specific organized religion." This is evident in their lyrics. But, being neither agnostic nor atheistic, I could still be off the mark about Dream Theater !>\>
> As > far as Rush is concerned, I've always believed their music was more agnostic; > a common theme of many Rush songs of late is that of thinking about those > intangible, unexplainable things that show evidence of a higher power, but > saying, "I don't have time for that right now--let me get my own life in > order first."
Actually, the theme of many Rush albums seems to be that the only "higher power" (note that *Neil* is the lyricist) is the driving force from within ourselves that takes us through life. This is the dominant theme of _Hold Your Fire_ (don't interpret "Prime Mover" as being a song about Aristotle's concept of God; rather, it puts the "prime mover" within all of us). There is not a total absence of spirituality in Rush's lyrics, but I think Neil has made his views clear in the past ----there was just a discussion of this on a.m.r. _Roll the Bones_ is another album that is thematic in the same vein. At least Neil grew out of his objectivist stage after the '70s. (Oh yeah! Listen to "Freewill.")
> Dream Theater are definitely not agnostic, if my understanding > of the word is on target. Hope I didn't offend anyone. After all, this is > just my $.02...
Who cares if you offend anyone!? As long as you don't do it merely for the sake of doing it. What would progress be without stepping on a few peoples' toes?
later,
Zach - I guess I'll just have to ask Mike at the next show.
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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 01:48:06 -0400 From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: UNDIGESTING Message-ID: <v01510103ac2ccd5b7d74@[199.232.46.229]>
Dave Silva <silva@physci.psu.edu> wrote:
>I know a number of you have asked about getting the 'Jam in digest form. >I was wondering how you get it in just the regular mail form, getting the >messages as they're sent to the 'Jam. Let me know. >
Sheesh. Don't you guys keep your old Ytsejams ;). The following is from the welcome to Ytsejam list.
UNDIGESTING -----------
To leave digest mode send:
set ytsejam mail ack
to ytsejam-request@arastar.com with a subject of "asdf".
Your welcome :)
---------------- Marc Respass mer@sol.iii.net http://www.iii.net/users/mer/Welcome.html
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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 01:48:10 -0400 From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: DT in RI! Message-ID: <v01510104ac2cce6abd06@[199.232.46.229]>
Brent Phillips wrote:
>Any of you Boston area 'Jammers interested in car-pooling/hanging out/ >etc. for the 8/3 show in Providence? If so, please email me! I'll >coordinate...
Hey Brent. I'll be there. I'm not sure about car-pooling though (but you did say Boston). I live in Worcester but I have to pick up my girlfriend at the airport at 5:00. I figure DT won't be going on until late anyway. Anyone have any idea who's opening?
---------------- Marc Respass mer@sol.iii.net http://www.iii.net/users/mer/Welcome.html
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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 01:48:14 -0400 From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Agnostic DT? Message-ID: <v01510105ac2ccef4dd73@[199.232.46.229]>
This is to steven zebrowski. According to my desk dictionary, agnostic is the belief that the existence of God cannot be proven. I don't think it neccesarily means that you don't care about the existence of God (although you might). I think this definition changes things a little though from what you were saying.
---------------- Marc Respass mer@sol.iii.net http://www.iii.net/users/mer/Welcome.html
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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 00:18:52 -0600 (MDT) From: brax@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Bracken Odiorne) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Bladerunner Message-ID: <9507150618.AA119163@lamar.ColoState.EDU>
To the folks who answered my not too hard question. Kudos. I did make a gaff when I mentioned that Phillip Dick came up with the slogan. That credit does go to Ridley Scott. It is a great book however. Too bad they couldn't have stuck to the original story moreso (Could Decker BE a replicant, etc...). Oh well. It was better than most movie adaptations are.
DT content: Would anyone be interested in trading a copy of the DT Japanese PPV for a boot of Queensryche's Road to the Promised Land tour on video? Let me know.
Outta here, Bracken
"In music the passions enjoy themselves." Nietzsche -Beyond Good and Evil-
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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 02:44:11 -0400 (EDT) From: tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: IRC channel Message-ID: <9507150644.AA02818@junix.ju.edu>
> > Is there a specific system you need in order to access this channel? I > followed the instructions someone posted a few days ago, but no joy; the > computer had no idea what I was talking about. > > > Jaime the Dragon
Me to!!!!!!!! I can type chat and get a menu of a bunch of rooms, but none are the DT one?...? PLEASE HELP ME! I WANT TO DO THIS (As if I don't spend enough time on line already.)
Take the time, Trey Allen
tallen@junix.ju.edu http://junix.ju.edu/UsrWebPages/tallen/home.html
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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 03:47:01 -0400 From: GBatesGT@aol.com To: Ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Various Message-ID: <950715034700_33199035@aol.com>
To be agnostic, as I have been told, is to be unsure and wavering in the belief of god. To be neither religious, nor yet atheist. I think that Dream Theater does not qualify as religious, and rather, it seems that they haven't really made any decisions as a group on the matter. More than likely, they are unwilling to release extensively religious matter because they have different beliefs.
I think that the Subconscious insert is a good idea, but I have suggestions. First, I think it could do without the whole bit about how 'the CD you're holding in your hands is very special' I think it would work best with the quotes, with the information on each track, and with the lyrics. Also, perhaps someone with the equipment to print out the liners, might sell the liners to the holders of the CDs. It would be cool if they were sold with gold numbers to match the CDs (it'd be tough work to match them up tho.) and then signed by the printer and the writer(s). Pics would be cool too.
I think IMHO, or IMO is a very useful expression that stops people from feeling that other people are pushing opinions on them, and also prevents the user from sounding like an egotist that is always right.
If we start a list of people here that want access to the Japanese versions of the new Lps, would Kaoru be able to get ahold of enough of them? I think that a lot of us would go for them.
For the person that might be able to query the DT members at an upcoming concert, I have a few questions. . . 1) DO the lyricists have a lot of influence in the writing of the music? 2) Will DT every try to push into the west coast for publicity? 3) Can Derek play Wait for Sleep? 4) Will their EP release of 'Eve' have lyrics? 5) What do they think of the discussed suggestions regarding bootlegs? + some...
Sorry for the long post, but my brain was leaking, I had to let it out, -Jun-Dai Bates
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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 11:14:28 -0400 From: Qghost@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Easter on ACoS? Message-ID: <950715111428_33287003@aol.com>
Here's hoping! Great f---ing song! ================================== Ghost Qghost@aol.com
"I'm sitting in the fireplace burning up my time." ==================================
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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 11:47:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Other Prog Metal Bands Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.950715112908.2487C-100000@umbc8.umbc.edu>
Hello,
Someone brought up the fact that they were just getting into prog-metal and wanted to know of some other bands to check out. I have extensive Prog-Metal and Prog-Rock collections (I'm working on some fusion) and I will gladly make a prog-compilation tape for any member of the list who sends me a blank tape in a postage paid padded shipper, or if they send me a check or money order for $4 to cover the cost of the high bias tape 90min and the first class shipping. I offer this service so that many of the smaller bands can get their music out on a sampler and entice people to mail them and pick up their albums. E-mail me for more details.
Stuff of interest
Prog-Metal ----------
Anekdoten Vemod CD King Crimson, Red Era Angra Angel's Cry CD Solid PMetal, Many influences Auditory Imagery So Alive CD Rush, QR influences Black Jester Welcome to the Moon- CD Dream Theater & Marillion light Circus (great disk) Diary of a Blind Angel CD Cathedral There in the Shadows CD Fate's Warning (Alder), Genesis Cynic Focus CD Death Metal with Jazz Influence Divine Regale Horizons / EP CD Empire Queensryche & Rush EX Dream Theater When Dream And Day UniteCD Technical Art Metal w Keys Images And Words CD Live At The Marquee CD Live In Tokyo VHS Awake CD Early Warning The Hero's Dream Tape Good, Solid Metal, Fate's, QR Echolyn ...and Every Blossom CD High Composing skill, many As The World CD time sig, harmonic vocals Elan Firestorm CD Rush, DT, blend band, br guitar Fate's Warning Awaken The Guardian CD Art Metal No Exit CD Perfect Symmetry CD Technical Metal Pioneers Parallels CD Inside Out CD Indiscipline A Non-Obvious Ride CD KC, Alice in Chains, w Violin! Inferno Psychic Distance Tape Dream Theater with less polish Architect Tape Great instrumentals, recom. Ivanhoe Symbols of Time CD DT, really awesome vox King Crimson VROOOM CD Double Trio, Belew Vox Thrak CD Dinosaur (single) CD Kingston Wall II CD Hendrix, Ozrics, JAddiction VoX Lethal Programmed CD Warning era Queensryche Magellan Hour of Restoration CD Dream Theater and Yes Impending Ascension CD Mastermind Volume One CD EX Guitar, 2X Bass Drumming Brainstorm CD (MIDI guitar solos) Mercury Rising Mercury Rising / EP Tape Iron Maiden, Rush, Queensryche Moore, Kevin Demos Tape Solo concepts by DT keys man Mystery Jones Mystery Jones Tape Rock, strange vocals, funk Ozric Tentacles Afterswish 2CD Floyd vs. Metallica? Live Ethereal Cereal CD Live Underslunky CD P.O.A Threshold of Pain / EP Tape Megadeth, Old Metallica Queensryche EP CD Pioneers of Prog Vocals & Cncpt The Warning CD Rage For Order CD Operation Mindcrime CD Empire CD Promised Land CD Savatage Sirens/Dungeons CD Megadeth with something lighter Syrinx Kaleidoscope Of Sym RockCD Rush musically vocal Netherland Tempo Tantrum The Mirror Never Lies Tape DT style music, great guitar Threshold Wounded Land CD Dream Theater style, enviro ly Psychedelicatessen CD Heavier than WL Better ly Visionary Strategy Tape Fate's, Rush, ryche influence ------------------------ These are just a few bands to check out in the prog-metal vein. Some are heavier prog-rock but worthy.
Later,
Mike
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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 16:51:20 -0700 From: debraun@fresno.edu (Randall Braun) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Trivia Answer & another, more serious question Message-ID: <v01520c01ac2da0ed07e0@[204.161.33.79]>
>>Old Trivia answer: Iron Maiden has done (at least) 2 songs which refer to >>certain British-made fantasy-drama series of the late '60s. What are the >>songs, the name of the show, and the creator/star of that series. Hint, >>that series is a 'cult classic' and can still be seen on a certain cable >>network.
For those who answered 'The Prisoner', starring Patrick McGoohan. u r correct The IM songs are:
1. 'The Prisoner' from 'Number of the Beast' 2. 'Back in the Village' from PowerSlave
The Prisoner can still be seen periodically on the SciFi channel, as well as some PBS stations. It was shown a few years ago on CBS Late Night as well.
Sorry, no new trivia question, all the ones I thought of were too easy, More later.
Question: It IS the relationship between a band and their record company; i.e. DT IAW was on ATCO, if I remember correctly (sorry I don't have it in front of me), while Awake is on Eastwest Records. Whatever, both are subsidiaries of Atlantic Records, which again is a subsidery (sp?, no dictionary on hand, and I.m too lazy to get it) of WEA (Warner-Atlantic-Elektra). Who does what and who actually is in charge of promoting the band, their tours, albums, etc. I have seen this everchanging record compay thread within the same umbrella conglomerate before. For you that know, please enlighten the rest of us.
--Randall L. Braun
'To write or to speak is almost inevitably to lie a little. It is an attempt to clothe an intangible in tangible form; to compress an immeasurable into a mold. And in the act of compression, how Truth is mangled and torn!' -- Anne Morrow Lindbergh
You are correct when you say that there is one God; the demons also believe this and shudder (James 2:19)
Christianity is a relationship, not a religion
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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 20:06:03 -0400 From: JennieBear@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Dream Theater...agnostic??? Message-ID: <950715200602_33535565@aol.com>
The following appeared in Ytsejam #891:
>In the last Jam is was stated that while Rush seemed "atheistic," DT seemed <to this person> to be "agnostic." Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that agnosicism was being neither theistic nor atheistic, but not caring whether or not there is a God, or god, or supreme being, or whatever. If this was the case with Dream Theater, then there would be no songs like The Mirror/Lie, and especially Voices. These songs seem to show the internal conflict of someone who doesn't know what to believe--hardly agnostic. As far as Rush is concerned, I've always believed their music was more agnostic;
a common theme of many Rush songs of late is that of thinking about those intangible, unexplainable things that show evidence of a higher power, but saying, "I don't have time for that right now--let me get my own life in order first." Dream Theater are definitely not agnostic, if my understanding of the word is on target. Hope I didn't offend anyone. After all, this is just my $.02...<
Actually, "agnostic" does not mean one particular thing - there's such things as "positive" and "negative" agnostics. Most agnostics I know just feel that the information either way is not conclusive enough. Some do care and struggle with this, and, for others, it's not a major issue.
Some years ago, I took a "Philosophy of Religion" class where all of these issues came up. My classmates were a fascinating group: athiests, agnostics, and believers. As a result, I've been exposed to people of many differing viewpoints...
To me, Dream Theater *is* agnostic, it's about people struggling with the issue of "is there, or isn't there."
Jen -- "Could we see clearer in a virtual reality?" - Magellan "I am the beat of your pulse/the computer word made flesh" - Queensryche
jenniebear@aol.com kethry@netcom.com
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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 23:31:08 -0400 From: Erotomania@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: FMQB 7/7/95 Message-ID: <950715233107_115771856@aol.com>
I dunno if anyone posted this little "blurb" from FMQB (Friday Morning Quarterback, a radio trade magazine), but, here it is: ----start of article----
DREAM TEHATER GIVING CULT CLASSIC OFFICIAL RELEASE:
While they work on new music for a '96 release, Dream Theater will release a live album containing their 22 minute opus "A Change Of Seasons." They've only performed it twice in concert*, once in New York and once in Germany, and some bootlegs have been made. But now, as an official release, it will serve as the title cut of the live album which was recorded at a club in London last January, and features cover versions of songs by some of their idols - Pink Floyd, Rush, Elton John, Queen, Yes and Genesis. "A Change of Seasons" is due in stores in September.
----end of article----
* - didn't someone say they performed ACoS in NJ?
Anyway, hope this is of some interest. It's not every day that FMQB puts DT in the "MUSIC NEWS" section. =)
Hey - bootlegs? Like SubCon? =) hehe...
Later, -Hairball
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Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 02:05:56 -0400 (EDT) From: tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Various Message-ID: <9507160605.AA10270@junix.ju.edu>
> > I think that the Subconscious insert is a good idea, but I have > suggestions. First, I think it could do without the whole bit > about how 'the CD you're holding in your hands is very special' > I think it would work best with the quotes, with the > information on each track, and with the lyrics. Also, perhaps > someone with the equipment to print out the liners, might sell > the liners to the holders of the CDs. It would be cool if they > were sold with gold numbers to match the CDs (it'd be tough > work to match them up tho.) and then signed by the printer and > the writer(s). Pics would be cool too.
Lets do it! It sounds cool! I have two different freinds who work for paper and printing companies. I will ask them about getting an insert with all this stuff on it if you guys want.
> If we start a list of people here that want access to the > Japanese versions of the new Lps, would Kaoru be able to get > ahold of enough of them? I think that a lot of us would go for > them.
Yea I'll be on the list!
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