YTSEJAM Digest 889
Today's Topics:
1) Re:James Joyce
by Kaoru Kobayashi <GCH06672@niftyserve.or.jp>
2) Re: 2 things
by tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen)
3) Re: #1(2) YTSEJAM Concert Sound and all that jazz..
by WarrenDW@aol.com
4) Re: a few things...
by tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen)
5) Re: Various...
by tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen)
6) What is the band up to now?
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
7) ozzy(w/ DT content!)
by nguyen john t <jtnguyen@cs.twsu.edu>
8) Acoustic Dreams
by brax@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Bracken Odiorne)
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 887
by basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de (Bernd Basmer)
10) Re:Japanese Bonus Tracks(fwd)
by Kaoru Kobayashi <GCH06672@niftyserve.or.jp>
11)
by
12) Fates Warning, the statue, and the old man
by Brian Nielsen <norman@iesd.auc.dk>
13) Acoustic Dreams
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
14) Subconscious liner notes! Here!
by "R. Haskin" <strega@u.washington.edu>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 888
by BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 888
by Jeremy Peter Lakatos <jeremy@grove.ufl.EDU>
17) DT tour date
by AJBB87A@prodigy.com (MR PATRICK M SULLIVAN)
18) +Live+ on Acoustic DT
by david@pharlap.CI.COM (David B. Kuznick)
19) Cygnus
by david@pharlap.CI.COM (David B. Kuznick)
20) More ramblings
by Jarrod N Ramseylewis <sac73479@saclink.csus.edu>
21) Various Stuff (typical heading), ADreams, Rush, etc.
by Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
22) Subconscious
by tempus88@nbnet.nb.ca (Vince French)
23) Catching up on mail...(LONG)
by AirDance@aol.com
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 13:01:00 +0900
From: Kaoru Kobayashi <GCH06672@niftyserve.or.jp>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re:James Joyce
Message-ID: <199507130414.NAA28666@inetnif.niftyserve.or.jp>
>>>> Tue, 11 Jul 1995 From: FilDBaskt@aol.com
>>What I want to know is, which member of DT likes Joyce? Any ideas?
Guess many people have already answered your question before me, but...
it was Kevin who likes James Joyce. Last summer, in an interview article
carried in a heavy metal magazine in Japan called "Burrn!", Kevin talked
about his favorite author (Allen Ginsberg, Henry Miller, James Joyce etc)
and his way of viewing thing, the world.
Kev told that he became unsure if he really believes in God and began to
read the works of Joyce. He was about 21 years old then. His conclusion
was very similar to that of Stephane Daedalus (of Joyce's "A Portrait of
the Artist as a Young Man"), I think. Finally, he concluded that he
believes in God, but not simply the God in Christianity. He said that he
came to believe in GOD and that what every religion is in search of is the
same thing, and GOD is actually only one and the same. That's what he
learned.
>>>> Tue, 11 Jul 1995 From: Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
>>I think it was Ken Bibb who mentioned that Nora might be about James
>>Joyce's wife (?). Was her name Nora?
>>
>>Anyone know anything about Joyce's life?
Yes, actually Joyce's wife was Nora.
His mother's name was Mary Jane, and one of the characters in "The Dead"
was based on her, I guess.
--- BTW, Joyce's "Finnegans Wake" was titled as "Work In Progress" when it had published serially on the magazine. DT's tour of '93 was entitled "Music In Progress". Is this just a coincidence? Does anybody get any idea?** Desperate to fall, behind the great wall, that separates us all.. ** ** Kaoru Kobayashi(From Japan)<07/13 10:18>GCH06672@niftyserve.or.jp **
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 00:54:50 -0400 (EDT) From: tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: 2 things Message-ID: <9507130454.AA27955@junix.ju.edu>
> > Hey Brian, > I saw your web page on ytsejam and decided to check it out. WOW! I have > just started gettin gin to this boot stuff but I hav never seen a > collection like that. I would die to have a cool video and or tape of DT > but I really dont have anything to trade. I read you sometimes trade > blank tapes and stuff, but I was womdering if you would pick out one > DT video and one DT tape with the best performance, best recording > and longest running time availiable and name a price. You don't know how > happy you could makek me. > Thanks > ____________________________________________________________________________
SORRY!!! I meant this to go to Brian and not all you guys...Don't know what happened?!?!?
Trey Allen
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 01:17:15 -0400 From: WarrenDW@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: #1(2) YTSEJAM Concert Sound and all that jazz.. Message-ID: <950713011638_113834394@aol.com>
>From: SPACE WRANGLER <wmc8s@curry.edschool.virginia.edu> >To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com >Subject: Concert Sound and all that jazz >Message-ID: <199507110844.EAA29507@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU> > >Greets-- > >having done both Monitor *and* soundboard work, maybe I can help out >with a few things here... > >When one works the monitor board, the main responsibility is to include >what each person wants in their own particular mix. The guitarist, >for example, might want just himself, the drums and vocals, while the >bass player might just want herself and the drums....it's all an >individual thing, as far as monitors go. > >As far as soundboard goes, every soundman has a different sound he is >looking for. This also all depends on the size and acoustics of the >venue that the band is playing in....thus the sound will vary from >night to night....this is why sound checks are *SO* important. The >soundman needs to make sure that the mix is what he wants to hear. > > >When you are in the first few rows, or right up against the stage, most >of what you are hearing is coming straight from the amps on stage. >Since the monitors fire back onto the stage, you wont hear much of them, >if you can hear them at all....the BIG difference is that this is a >DRASTICALLY different sound than the soundguy hears. He hears the sound >from the nice, big PA that's set up, and he hears it AFTER he's mixed >the sound here, tweaked this there, added some reverb here, etc, etc, etc. > >This puts Us, the concert-goer in a very rough position. If we really >want to be there for the band-experience, and want to see every bead of >sweat and drop of blood, then by all means, go up front. If you want the >best sound available, sit either in front of, next to, or if possible, >BEHIND the soundboard, as you will hear EXACTLY what the soundman is >hearing, and it is there that you will get the truest >sound......consequently, >this is also where you will find the majority of people who are making >nice audience tapes (for those bands who allow such things), and is >a good place to MEET those people, and if you're nice, and lucky enough, >score yourself a future trade for the concert that you have just seen. > > > >sorry to bore everyone with technical babble.... > > > >..I'll get off the soapbox now.... > > > >wade > > Wade..I guess I started this thread a week or so ago. My impression of the mix in Portland Ore was that first of all it was WAY too loud. The drums over powered the rest of the band, the keys were barely audible at times, almost NO bass guitar, although you could see John M's fingers flying. Petrucci was uneven. The sound tech was CONSTANTLY adjusting levels. And as I mentioned in my post, I had my 10 year old Portnoy-worshipping-son with me and the crew let us on the riser for the mixing console so that he could see the show. So my total experience of the mix was 2 feet from their sound tech. They did a sound check with 2 songs, LaBrie was not there for the sound check.
"Warren in Oregon"..........(HI BABS!!)
P.S. to Hairball....everything you said about the mixing business makes sense. At the above mentioned concert the crew gave us ear plugs (we brought our own so we saved them for souveniers). As far as I could tell the whole crew, sound tech, even the band's wives who were there made sure to wear ear protection.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 02:29:34 -0400 (EDT) From: tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: a few things... Message-ID: <9507130629.AA24928@junix.ju.edu>
> IF THE GODS ARE LISTENING.... HERE IS MY SACRIFICE OF TWO FATTED CALVES TO > MAKE SURE THAT DAMAGE INC. GETS ON THE EP!!!!!! > > is there anyway we can write them and convince them (maybe like we did last > time)...?????
What last time????
Trey Allen tallen@junix.ju.edu http://junix.ju.edu/UsrWebPages/tallen/home.html
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 02:45:52 -0400 (EDT) From: tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Various... Message-ID: <9507130645.AA26579@junix.ju.edu>
> > If you like vocal harmonies, check out Take 6. Most of what they do is > acapella jazz (with percussion), and there's a bit of gospel floating around > in their catalog. However, they're phenomenal. You may have heard them > singing back ups on Don Henley's "In A New York Minute," or caught them on > Quincy Jones's "Back On The Block." >
NO! If you like vocal harmonies listen to BARBERSHOP! Not an old 1940s quartet, but the Acoustix or Keepsake or the Vocal Majority chorus. I promise you guys barbershop, next to DT is the best kept musical secret! It is the most unbelievable thing to listen to,watch and/or sing! It gives me just as much of a thrill as being at a DT show!
If your interested in some more info, e-mail me and give you some wav files and other stuff.
Sorry for the non DT content!
____________________________________________________________________________ "...sorrow and pain she'll never outgrow; Death is the first dance, eternal..."
"...As a man I've found it's all caught up with me; Deceit is the second without end..."
"...Now the Miracle and the Sleeper know that the third is love; Love is the dance of eternity" (John Petrucci of Dream Theater)
Trey Allen --- tallen@junix.ju.edu --- http://junix.ju.edu/UsrWebPages/tallen/home.html ____________________________________________________________________________
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 00:59:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: What is the band up to now? Message-ID: <199507130459.AAA01406@umbc9.umbc.edu>
Just wondering if anyone knows what they are currently up to? Are they playing any more festivals in Europe? I can't wait until they come back to the US with echolyn opening for them. It should be great!
Lets all welcome Matt Lyons (Lyonslayer) to the Ytsejam. He just took to onramp onto the info super highway plus he's an AOLer so lets take it easy on him! :) <- that was a smiley face Matt, turn your head side...
I have 2 new Silent Man singles for sale. Tracks are --- Silent Man, Take the Time (demo) and Eve (studio).
Price is $14 which includes packaging and shipping in the US. Mail me if interested.
-- ************************************************************************** * Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu * * * * You're fighting the weight of the world, * * and no one can save you this time. * * Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. * * * * "Take the Time" - Dream Theater * **************************************************************************
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 00:38:07 -0500 (CDT) From: nguyen john t <jtnguyen@cs.twsu.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: ozzy(w/ DT content!) Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950713002828.4701B-100000@emcity>
Hello to all ytsejammers! How are we all? Someone mentioned OZZY (the Godfather of metal) the other day. Well, before I go on, I'd better put some DT content in or else I'd get castrated! I CAN trace Ozzy to DT (kinda silly). Well, I heard that Ozzy will have a new album soon. On it, the drummer Deen Castronovo plays. Deen played on Marty Friedman's solo album "Dragon's Kiss" as well as the two Cacophy albums, and Steve Vai's latest solo album "Alien Love Secrets." In turn Steve Vai was the first to really use a seven-string Ibanez guitar on anything (I think on "Sex & Religion" but I could be wrong). There, we have our tie to DT! Now, my only real inquiry is: does anyone know when Ozzy's new album is due? I think its called "Ozzmosis". Well, later everyone.
"heaven must be more than this..." John Nguyen a.k.a. "NUPRIN"
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 00:31:18 -0600 (MDT) From: brax@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Bracken Odiorne) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Acoustic Dreams Message-ID: <9507130631.AA131464@lamar.ColoState.EDU>
Hey all, For some reason my server announced in the middle of my message that it was out of buffer space and then promptly kicked me out before I could send my message. So please excuse me if my message was sent in an incomplete form. I swear it was not my fault. Anyhow, I was trying to say that my vote is for Mike Bahr (whom we all dearly love) to go back to the original plan if he doesn't have enough room to fill out Acoustic Dreams and do WD&JU first. It's not like he's going to completely shitcan one in favour of the other, and that gives him more time to collect other cool DT goodies that will fit with the acoustic stuff. Of course this is provided that he has already collected all of the stuff that he intends to publish on WD&JU. If both tracklists are short, then perhaps AD and WD&JU could be combined. What extra will go on WD&JU to make it 70 minutes? I think that sounds promising. Live just wouldn't fit in I think. They're a great band, but I don't like multi-band albums, unless they play very similarly. Also, just as an addendum, Mouth For War has got one of the coolest guitar riffs I've heard in a long time. Of course it is definately not a Metropolis or a Monument, but then again, it doesn't sound as bad as anything off of Type O Negative's album (no flames please; just an opinion). Give her another try. The stuff on Testament's new album is rediculously easy too, but I still think it's one of the best CDs I own. Speaking of easy songs that are real catchy and adding the element of trivia: What fictional company has as it's slogan the title of White Zombie's newest song, More human Than Human? I'll give a hint. Phillip K. Dick came up with it.
Mitakuye oyasin! Bracken "...Without music, life would be an error." Nietzsche -Twilight of the Idols-
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:25:36 +0200 From: basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de (Bernd Basmer) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 887 Message-ID: <9507130725.AA29540@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de>
>Hi, my name is Vin and I am a friend of Al Balkiewicz... > >Al recently was in a car accident and is in the hospital right now, and >it seems as though he will be in there for a while. In the meantime, he >has asked me to collect these posts for him, since I'm the only person with >somewhat of a clue as to how to work E-mail. So I'm printing these posts >out for him, so he has something to read. I was wondering if there was any >way to get these messages in some grouped form, rather than individually? >That way it would be easier to print out. >
MY GOD!! Hope Al wasn't hurt too much!! I wish him all the best!
I have to say Bye for a few weeks now because I'll be in studio with my band and have no access to the net from there. So keep on jammin' !! :)
Bye.
Bernd.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 18:54:00 +0900 From: Kaoru Kobayashi <GCH06672@niftyserve.or.jp> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re:Japanese Bonus Tracks(fwd) Message-ID: <199507131013.TAA11066@inetnif.niftyserve.or.jp>
Well, some sentences were gone from my last posting here, so I'll resend this... --- / begin fowarded message / --- Hi, all! It's been a long time since I posted here last!
>>>> Tue, 11 Jul 1995 From: "Brian V. Cox" <bvc8995@tam2000.tamu.edu>
>>In Japan, due to exchange rates and stuff, the Japanesepeople can >>actually buy the imports cheaper than thedomestic release. I think >the domestics run about Y2500,which is close to $25. anyway, >>to keep them from not buyingany domestic releases at all, the >>record companies slap bonus (bone-us)tracks on there to get the >>Japanese to buy them instead. This in turn hurts the non-Japanese >>fans that really want these tracks as well.
------------------------------
Anyway, I haven't got any release information yet. What I've heard so far is that the Japanese version will be released on October 10th, '95. If you
want to get a Japanese version (I don't know if it will have any bonus track, though) through me and will be able to give me more time than it took at the time of Awake, I will be happy to take the order. (If anyone can collect the orders in the US, it will be very much convenient!) [stuff deleted]
** Desperate to fall, behind the great wall, that separates us all.. ** ** Kaoru Kobayashi(From Japan)<07/13 09:57>GCH06672@niftyserve.or.jp **
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 14:10:26 +0200 From: Brian Nielsen <norman@iesd.auc.dk> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Fates Warning, the statue, and the old man Message-ID: <199507131210.OAA05725@leibniz.iesd.auc.dk>
>>>>> "Bracken" == Bracken Odiorne <brax@lamar.ColoState.EDU> writes:
Bracken> Hello all, Someone mentioned in Ytsejam 885 that they Bracken> noticed the statue on the cover of Parallels was the same Bracken> as on Perfect Symmetry. That is true. Did you also Bracken> notice that the old man is the same. The old guy is also Bracken> the same old man featured in Metallica's much overplayed Bracken> video for Enter Sandman. He also has an almost Bracken> unnoticable background appearance in the Fisher King (If Bracken> it weren't for a phone call causing me to pause at the Bracken> right time...)(I also wouldn't call it a "cameo" since Bracken> the only people to whom he is famous are fans of metal). Bracken> Where else has anyone seen this guy?
I believe he's also in Metallicas video 'The Unforgiving', on the cover of Megadets 'Countdown to Extinction', and probably on the cover of Sanctuarys 'In the Mirror Black' (I'm not sure about that one, though). I think I've seen him on other covers too, but I don't remember which. Where in Fisher King did you see him? And does anyone know his name?
-- +------------------------------------------------+ | Brian Nielsen | | Department of Mathematics and Computer Science | | Aalborg University, Denmark | | | | email: norman@iesd.auc.dk | +------------------------------------------------+
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 10:16:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Acoustic Dreams Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9507131013.A1027-9100000@bdmserver>
I say fill the cd with whatever is not put on Change of Seasons from the Ronnie Scott Gig.
**** Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com **** ** "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater ** ** "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files ** **** ****GO ORIOLES!!!!**** ****
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 08:05:51 -0700 (PDT) From: "R. Haskin" <strega@u.washington.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Subconscious liner notes! Here! Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91j.950713075838.991A-100000@saul3.u.washington.edu>
In the last Edition of Ytsejam, Mike Bahr said -
> > How were most of these songs recorded? > > Here and there... it's sort of the result of digging through my > collection and noting all the songs DT fans "just HAD to hear" as I > went... and then collecting more from a few outside sources. > > > Where can I find the lyrics for it? > > I think Randy Haskin put together a GREAT insert sheet for the > Sub disc, can anyone direct us to it?
Hello all!
I have two of the three parts needed to make the complete "insert" for Subcon...
I have a track-by-track description of where each song was recorded and some information nuggets about why each song is important/significant/cool enough to make it on to Sub.
Second, I have a small essay on how and Why Sub was made, so in 5 years when you whip it out for some fanatic DT collector (umm, like yourself!!) you will know what the heck this CD is!
The third and final part is the lyrics. I understand that the full set of lyrics for all the Subcon songs is available at someone's WWW site.
If anyone wants me to send them the first two insert parts (text only over email) let me know, *or* if there is significant enough interest, I can post them to the List.....
Thanks!
Randy Haskin strega@u.washington.edu
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 12:24:13 -0500 (EST) From: BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 888 Message-ID: <01HSTKQOZDTU000KMC@sgenva.CC.GENESEO.EDU>
Hello everyone, it's Babs-a-roo! I have to share this with everyone because I am really excited about this. There has been talk of them building a concert amphitheatre in Geneseo. Yes, little small college town of Geneseo. Wow! The Geneseo village has approved it - all it has to do is go through some more red tape before being so. They are planning on having seating for 6,500 but room for outdoor sitting for 20,000. They estimate that they want to average 30 outdoor shows for the summer. Wow! This was in this mornings paper, so it is not my mind playing tricks on me. Wow! Of course, if DT ever plays here everyone is more than welcome to crash at my place if need be. So remember that Ytsejammers! Babs will leave the light on (Just like Motel 6). BTW, it will take two to three years for this to happen - things don't happen overnight here. Wow!!!!!! Does this mean that I am no longer a hick in the woods of upstate NY?
Take care everyone! -BABS
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 11:43:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeremy Peter Lakatos <jeremy@grove.ufl.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 888 Message-ID: <199507131543.LAA06989@alder.grove.ufl.edu>
>New Trivia question: Iron Maiden has done (at least) 2 songs which refer >to certain British-made fantasy-drama series of the late '60s. What are >the songs, the name of the show, and the creator/star of that series. >Hint, that series is a 'cult classic' and can still be seen on a certain >cable network.
Don't know the song names but I know the show. The Prisoner, starring Patrick McGoohan.
And it's on cable again? Fuck. There's nothing good on when I have it, then when I move away and fall to watching the two network channels I have at my apartment (TV ain't good enough to get cable when I have B5 and Simpsons and Black Adder without), they show the great show again.
jeremy@grove.ufl.edu Just a number and a slave. NP: Jan Akkerman and Thijs Van Leer, Focus
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 12:10:02 EDT From: AJBB87A@prodigy.com (MR PATRICK M SULLIVAN) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: DT tour date Message-ID: <013.08614387.AJBB87A@prodigy.com>
I don't know about any *other* dates, but if you're in the MA/RI area, DT is playing on August 3 at the Strand in Providence, RI. I got my ticket last night at the Megadeth/Flotsam/Korn/Fear Factory show.
Pat Sullivan
"He's ruling with thought control, he's a digital dictator" -Vicious Rumors
"F*ck the New World Order" - Grip, Inc
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 95 10:06:20 -0400 From: david@pharlap.CI.COM (David B. Kuznick) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: +Live+ on Acoustic DT Message-ID: <9507131406.AA21290@pharlap.ci.com>
To all you naysayers: What *planet* are you on? I could understand saying "I'ld rather have X on there than +Live+" but "I'ld rather have nothing on than +Live+"? Is is THAT much of an effort to eject your CD after the DT stuff? It's better to ruin an opportunity for those people who want the extra music? Sheesh!
BTW, I've never heard +Live+ before and It's not like I have have any special desire to, but *really*!
David Kuznick - david@ci.com (preferred) or dkuznick@world.std.com ___ All your spirit rack abuses come to haunt you back by day {~._.~} All your byzantine excuses given time give you away ( Y ) Don't be surprised when daylight comes ()~L~() To find that memory prick your thumbs (_)-(_) You'll tell them where we run to hide - "Afraid of Sunlight" - MARILLION
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 95 10:25:56 -0400 From: david@pharlap.CI.COM (David B. Kuznick) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Cygnus Message-ID: <9507131425.AA21340@pharlap.ci.com>
> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 19:55:41 -0500 (CDT) > From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> > > This is mainly about Cygnus. I am wondering a few things. > I don't have either Book 1 or 2 (A Fairwell to Kings or Hemispheres.) So > I have been debating, should I buy the studio albums
Yes.
> and not Cygnus, buy
Your choice.
> both, buy Cygnus only,
This is the absolute worst thing you could do. This is where you are truly ripping off a band by buying a boot INSTEAD of an official release. I urge you not to do this. Progresssive rock groups need all the monetary support they can get. Please don't take money away from them by not buying an official release when it's available.
David Kuznick - david@ci.com (preferred) or dkuznick@world.std.com ___ All your spirit rack abuses come to haunt you back by day {~._.~} All your byzantine excuses given time give you away ( Y ) Don't be surprised when daylight comes ()~L~() To find that memory prick your thumbs (_)-(_) You'll tell them where we run to hide - "Afraid of Sunlight" - MARILLION
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 11:20:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Jarrod N Ramseylewis <sac73479@saclink.csus.edu> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: More ramblings Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9507131110.A16890-0100000@saclink1.csus.edu>
To jenniebear, how can I help with that prog show? I know I can raise intrest in the local area.
To Phil, the "recent" DT fan. Two words, "deja vu". Sounds very similar to my story. I had half of my dorm rocking last year, and with my new dorm this year I plan to do it again. You have always been a DT fan Phil, you just didn't know it.
I also like the idea of a DT window decal. It would really kick ass next to my KNAC sticker. For right now, I huess I'll have to settle for fingering it in on the years worth of dust that has piled up on my rear window.
Jarrod Ramsey-Lewis University of Portland
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 12:57:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Various Stuff (typical heading), ADreams, Rush, etc. Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.950713124313.15726A-100000@umbc8.umbc.edu>
Hello,
Get Better Al ------------- My prayers go out to Al. I hope he recovers as soon as possible. Its painful when any person gets injured in an accident, let alone another jammer.
Acoustic Dreams --------------- No Live on the album Mike. I like Live as well, but this is a Dream Theater project. You could put the other acoustic Silent Man version from the Providence radio or TV thing that was around before Awake. You could also put on any covers that weren't played at the covers gig. I mean versions. Try to get ahold of In the Flesh from one of the European shows, Killers, and Perfect Strangers, they would be good additions. Or if you have a good copy (excellent sound) of the majesty demos, you could put this on the end. Most of the copies out there have lousy sound quality.
Rush's New Album ---------------- I think the latest rumor is an Alex solo album in the fall and a new album with Peter Collins producing in the Spring of 1996. They were waiting for his schedule to clear before they make the new album. I'm still holding out for the all instrumental album.... I may be holding for a while. Or they could do a duet with Primus, that would rule!
Dream Theater back in the USA ----------------------------- I hope the guys can book someplace like Merriweather when in Maryland and skip HammerJacks. That damn club will be the death of me, Dream Theater is too big to play there, too many people show and most of us can't breathe. I couldn't even move to get a beer! Well I guess I'll have to happy that they play on the east coast often. <grin>
Allan Holdsworth ---------------- I agree, pick up some stuff by this guitarist. He plays a lot of jazz and improv, plus he is a major influence on Petrucci and Lifeson, especially Alex. I would recommend the first UK (Bruford, Wetton, Jobson, Holdsworth), Bruford's One of a Kind (Bruford, Holdsworth, Berlin, Stewart). He has tons of albums.
Later,
Mike
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 16:31:42 -0300 From: tempus88@nbnet.nb.ca (Vince French) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Subconscious Message-ID: <9507131931.AA59190@darwin.nbnet.nb.ca>
Hi...I'm just wondering if I were lucky enough to find someone with an extra copy of Subconscious for sale??? Unfortunately, I lost my account while all of this was happening, and just recently got a new one. It would be incredibly appreciated if someone were willing to part from an extra??? Thanks in advancve...
Vince
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 15:35:07 -0400 From: AirDance@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Catching up on mail...(LONG) Message-ID: <950713153449_114204500@aol.com>
Hey everyone,
As many of you know, I've been having some technical problems lately (had to have the motherboard replaced, ouch), but everything seems to be working ok now, so it's time to answer some mail. :)
Business first:
On Tue, 11 Jul 1995, Phil <FilDBaskt@aol.com> asked:
"Does anyone know if there are still any Kevin demos available?"
Yes! I'll e-mail you a list of available dub sites ASAP.
BTW, for any dub sites out there who are reading this, if you want to close up shop, or if you already have but haven't notified me yet, PLEASE DO. :) I've had several people write to me saying that the dubber I recommended to them said they weren't making copies anymore, yet I had no idea they were closed in the first place. If you've closed down, let me know so that you don't get any unnecessary e-mail, and other fans don't get frustrated because they can't get their copy from you. Thank you. :)
Onto other stuff:
On Mon, 10 Jul 1995 Phil, <FilDBaskt@aol.com>, who seems to be posting a lot lately <G>, wrote:
"I just heard Subcon for the first time today and I wAnt to know what the hell Wanted DOA is supposed to be? Why is DT making fun of Bon Jovi? And is that the band playing in the background or is that just a drum loop and some other crap?"
On Tue, 11 Jul 1995, Adam Bertapelle <bertapel@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> replied:
"I believe John P. recorded this song as an instructional tape to one of his students when he taught lessons. I believe it is a drum machine and phoney bass line. Then Kev's (?) roommate got a hold of it, did the whacky Beavis & Butthead commentary, and somehow one of us got a hold of it. Am I on track, everyone? Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as Petrucci's part, I don't think they were mocking Bon Jovi."
Also on Tue, 11 Jul 1995, our CD King, Mike Bahr <garion@indirect.com>, in an apparent fit of silliness & insanity<G>, responded:
"OK, the story once more for all of you who are tuning in late... :)
Petrucci plays the cover of WDOA with a drum machine as his backup, then leaves the tape on his counter for one of his students to pick up. A very drunk Kevin Moore and his roomate Rich Kern stumble into the kitchen, see the tape, and a very big grin spreads on each of their faces as they know, in that moment, what it is that they simply MUST do. :) I know I took some artistic license there, but that about surmises it."
Hahaha. Nice one, Mike. :) That was so funny, I almost _wish_ it were true. ;) Both replies were somewhat correct, and here's what I know...
John Petrucci recorded the guitar/drum machine tracks on a 4-track recorder for a student of his to practice along with, and that original tape included NO vocals whatsoever. At some point, and I'm still not quite sure how (I'm inclined to believe that "kitchen counter" scenario of Mike's to be as likely an explanation as any <G>), Rich Kern, a longtime friend of Kev's & rumored to be ex-Mesa Boogie rep for John P (he also played guitar on some of Kev's new demos, for those of you who didn't know), got ahold of a copy of the instrumental 4-track tape & added his own colorful, uhh, "vocals," or whatever you'd like to call them. :) So, to more directly answer the questions asked, no DT is not making fun of Bon Jovi, Rich Kern IS (haha), yes, it's John P w/a drum machine, not the full band playing, yes, it is EXTREMELY silly, and no, Kev had absolutely _nothing_ to do with it... or so he claims. :) I say, draw your own conclusions. ;)
The tape originated in DT trading circles from yet another student of Petrucci's who managed to get a copy somehow. He made a copy of it for me right around the time _I&W_ was released and I later provided the copy that Mike Bahr used for the Subconscious project, presumably because I have the lowest generation copy available. To be honest, even the quality of the copy I have is pretty terrible, and Mike deserves a lot of credit for remastering the track to the point of making it listenable for the CD. I didn't think it was possible, but the Subconscious version sounds better than the original tape I sent him! :)
On Tue, 11 Jul 1995, Phil <FilDBaskt@aol.com>, who can't seem to stop posting <G>, wrote:
"I recently saw a Jammer who used the following quote as a signoff:
'Tower of Ivory, they used to say. House of gold.... How can a woman be a tower of ivory or a house of gold.'
The Jammer creditied this quote to Dream Thearter, most likely because it is used in Vigil. However this is not a DT quote. This quote is from James Joyce's A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man. This is also the case with the opening to Vigil: 'Once upon a time and a very good time it was there was a moocow....' This is the first part of the opening sentence to Portrait.
DT also uses a Joyce quote in 6:00. 'I know all abouyt the honor of god Mary Jane.' This one is from his short story The Dead.
What I want to know is, which member of DT likes Joyce? Any ideas?"
Then on Tue, 11 Jul 1995, Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com> responded:
"I think it was Ken Bibb who mentioned that Nora might be about James Joyce's wife (?). Was her name Nora?
Anyone know anything about Joyce's life?"
Phil, I think by "Vigil" you mean "Eve," right? (Help me out here, folks. Wasn't "Eve" entitled "Vigil" on one of the bootleg CDs?) Anyway, the info about the use of Joyce's _Portrait_ in "Eve" was included in the YJ FAQ during the last revision, I believe. But for anyone who wants more info on Joyce in general, check out the following web sites: "http://astro.ocis.temple.edu/~callahan/joyce.html" & "http://www.mcs.net/~jorn/html/jj.html."
Not only do Joyce references appear in "Eve" and "6:00" (just for the record, _The Dead_ is only one story of many that makes up the novel _Dubliners_), they also pop up in "Surrounded" and in Kev's newer demo track, "Nora," which is most definitely about Joyce's wife, Nora (Barnacle) Joyce. The song "Nora" was inspired by a letter Joyce wrote to her, accusing her of having an affair with a friend of his behind his back (Nora _didn't_ actually cheat on him; the "friend," Vincent Cosgrave, just spread this rumor to try to break up their marriage). Kev sent me a photocopy of the letter & I'd be glad to post it's contents here if there's enough interest. (In case anyone wants to go to their local library & read the letter in context w/Joyce's other letters to Nora, it can be found in the book _Letters of James Joyce_, Volume II, edited by Richard Ellmann, published by Faber, 1966. The specific letter in question is the one dated August 6, 1909.) So, yes, to put it mildly, Kev is a big James Joyce fan! :)
More Kev Kwestions:
On Mon, 10 Jul 1995, John R. Kotzian <koggie@cyberspace.org> wrote:
"I brought out my copy of Kevin Moore's demo again, and for some reason this time it really connected with me and I can't seem to put the thing away.
Does anybody know what he is up to? Is he going to do an album? Does he need us to petition a record company? If so, He's got my signature."
What a nice thing to say, John. I'm sure Kevin would appreciate your encouragement & support. :)
The last time I heard from Kev, around mid-June, he didn't mention anything about having a record deal yet, but he did say that he has some tentative writing/recording plans for later this summer. Since I still don't know for sure if it's a "go" or not, it would probably be best for me not to actually say what's up yet. Don't worry, as soon as it's confirmed, I will post about it here to let you all know the deal. :) If these recording plans do indeed come to fruition, I think most of you will be quite excited & pleased with the news! But for now, he's still writing, experimenting & working hard on new material, as always, and very grateful that so many of you have stuck by him on his solo venture.
And now for something completely different...
On a totally non-DT note, on Tue, 11 Jul 95, Will Buckley <buckley@powdml.enet.dec.com> wrote:
"This seems to be a common theme in the Ytsejam crowd ... i.e., 'Petrucci is God'. Indeed, he is very good, and one of my favorite players ... but .. have any of you ever heard Alan Holsworth?!?"
Yes! :) And FWIW, I think Petrucci would be the first person to agree with you about just how amazing Allan is. I've been a fan of his since UK myself, & I love Allan's pop-flavored textures on the Level 42 album _Guaranteed_ just as much as his many fusion-oriented solo/instrumental ventures. He's quite simply a brilliant, unique musician & I would recommend him to anyone who likes hearing original & somewhat frightening music (haha) because he IS a monster. :) I must admit, however, that I am definitely of the opinion that Allan is not human, but from some strange alien race who are all born playing guitar & do nothing else for the rest of their lives, and therefore, he cannot be accurately compared to other musicians on the planet Earth. :D
I must also relay a very fond farewell to our friend, Matt Thomas <M.J.Thomas-SE2@cs.bham.ac.uk>, who is graduating (congratulations!) & moving on to life in the "real" world. :) I will certainly miss his regular "UK news & views" posts, but do hope to actually meet him in person next year when he comes to Los Angeles. IF his girlfriend will let him, that is. ;) Good luck, Matt, and have a great summer!
Best wishes to Al Balkiewicz, get well soon!!
Take care all,
Jennifer <airdance@aol.com>
"...i'd like to be in love, never to refuse buddah in my belly or vishnu in my shoes..."
vicky pratt keating/_shoot for the moon_
------------------------------
End of YTSEJAM Digest 889 *************************
This archive was generated by hypermail 2b30 : Thu Apr 01 2004 - 17:54:56 EST