YTSEJAM Digest 885
Today's Topics:
1) AIC trivia
by Johnny@motown.ge.com
2) Re:Mind control
by tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen)
3) QR Pass
by dneff@maaco.com (David Neff)
4) Subconcious?
by tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen)
5) Wanted DOA on Subcon
by FilDBaskt@aol.com
6) Re: Skyclad
by JamesArin@aol.com
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 883
by DYNAMOJOE@aol.com
8) DT and Billy Joel
by FilDBaskt@aol.com
9) KM: "Normal Words"
by "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org>
10) #ytsejam on irc...
by "Brian V. Cox" <bvc8995@tam2000.tamu.edu>
11) *ahem*
by Maraya007@aol.com
12) Kevin Moore
by "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org>
13) Re: IRC site
by jjens@osf1.gmu.edu (tooler)
14) Re: Mind Controll/ Unwired
by JamesArin@aol.com
15) similarities engine/ arcade question
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
16) Subconscious CD prices
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
17) CYGNUS, ACOUSTIC DREAMS
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
18) "regular" metal
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
19) DT & FW
by craig_caldwell@tds.com (S. Craig Caldwell)
20) Maiden (sorry no DT this time)
by mjnewb@ix.netcom.com (Monty Newberry )
21) I MUST SEE DT LIVE !!!!
by ZapcoDT@aol.com
22) BOC toured as....
by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
23) Re: Subconscious CD prices
by tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen)
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 17:23:10 -0400
From: Johnny@motown.ge.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: AIC trivia
Message-ID: <199507102123.RAA05404@cybertron.MOTOWN.GE.COM>
Randall L. Braun wrote:
>On the Alice in Chains thread: Can't say that I'm a AIC fan, but a local
>DJ passed on this info: the AIC vocalist has recently(?) released an album
>with a band call 'Bad Season.(name?)' Also mentioned was the rumored
>relase of an AIC album in September.
>
The band is called *Mad Season* and the album is *Above*.
Layne Staley from AIC got together with Mike McCready (Pearl Jam)
John Baker Saunders and Barrett Martin (Screaming Trees). I am told
that Staley is rehearsing with other AIC members for a new album slated
for the fall.
Johnny
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 17:40:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re:Mind control
Message-ID: <9507102140.AA15533@junix.ju.edu>
>
> To All,
> I've got a new bootleg CD of Dream Theater. "Mind Control" is the title, which
> has released by KTS. This CD includes complete show at Urawa City Hall dated
> 24th january of 1995 and two bonus tracks. The numbers of the bunus tracks is
> "Tears" and "The Silent Man", and these are recorded live in Europe Feb. 1995.
>
Where did you get this boot?
Trey Allen
tallen@junix.ju.edu
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 15:33:06 -0600
From: dneff@maaco.com (David Neff)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com ('smtp:ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com')
Subject: QR Pass
Message-ID: <1995Jul10.152100.1059.1616@smtp.maaco.com>
Ooooooohh goodygoody gumdrops, I just found out that I got a pre-show
backstage pass for the Queensryche show in Camden on the 19th! Yaay!
Anybody need anything? I'll see what I can do for ya ...
-Dave (dneff@maaco.com)
P.S. Ryche Rules - almost as much as DREAM THEATER (<-content)
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 18:02:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Subconcious?
Message-ID: <9507102202.AA09724@junix.ju.edu>
First, I just got my Subcon CD yesterday (thanks Mike).
I was wondering why none of the last names of the members nor the word
"Dream Theater" was on the CD. Example... On the back it says:
"Subconscious is James, John, Mike, James, and Derrek". Is it a legal
thing?
Also I really like the cover...simple but cool. Does it have a meaning?
How were most of these songs recorded?
Where can I find the lyrics for it?
Also just wondering if anyone knows the # of subscribers to the list. It
would be interesting to know.
____________________________________________________________________________
"...sorrow and pain she'll never outgrow; Death is the first dance,
eternal..."
"...As a man I've found it's all caught up with me; Deceit is the second
without end..."
"...Now the Miracle and the Sleeper know that the third is love; Love is
the dance of eternity"
Trey Allen --- tallen@junix.ju.edu ---
http://junix.ju.edu/UsrWebPages/tallen/home.html
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 19:29:02 -0400
From: FilDBaskt@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Wanted DOA on Subcon
Message-ID: <950710192835_111935205@aol.com>
I just heard Subcon for the first time today and I wAnt to know what the hell
Wanted DOA is supposed to be? Why is DT making fun of Bon Jovi? And is that
the band playing in the background or is that just a drum loop and some other
crap?
Phil
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 20:09:26 -0400
From: JamesArin@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Skyclad
Message-ID: <950710200926_29878520@aol.com>
Here ya go Andras!
The Silent Whales of Lunar Sea- track list
1. Still spinning shrapnel
2. Just what nobody wanted
3. Art-Nazi
4. Jeopardy
5. Brimstone Ballet
6. A stranger in the garden
7. Another fine mess
8. Turncoat rebellion
9. Halo of flies
10. Desperanto (A song for Europe?)
11. The present imperfect
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 21:27:56 -0400
From: DYNAMOJOE@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 883
Message-ID: <950710212755_112020160@aol.com>
The Conan soundtrack is exemplary. Basil is awesome with movie scores and
Conan is definately his best. Some friends of mine at college and I used to
work out for our martial arts class to it. If you're going to pick it up,
pick it up on disc becasue it has a few extra tracks than the cassette.
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 19:34:59 -0400
From: FilDBaskt@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT and Billy Joel
Message-ID: <950710193458_111937528@aol.com>
This might sound stupid to some of you, but I was wondering if DT has over
covered any Billy Joel songs?
If they haven't, I think they should because I can see DT playing alot of BJ
stuff and making it sound really awesome. Anyone else think they should play
a BJ song, and if so, which one?
Phil
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 14:21:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam )
Subject: KM: "Normal Words"
Message-ID: <199507101821.OAA18927@grex.cyberspace.org>
I forgot to ask this in my last post so...
..Does anyone notice the simalarities between certain passages in Kevin
Moore's "Normal Words" and Ozzy Osbourne's "Revelation (Mother Earth)"?
Check it out! Cool!
-John
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 19:28:14 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Brian V. Cox" <bvc8995@tam2000.tamu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: #ytsejam on irc...
Message-ID: <199507110028.TAA02262@tam2000.tamu.edu>
i just wanted to encourage more people to show up on #ytsejam on irc
and discuss some stuff :) i just saw jenniebear and john jens over there
as well as a couple of lurkers.
if you show up, i am "broon" and am usually on #p/g! also (the rush channel)
so look for me.
if you dont know how to get on irc, try this at your prompt:
%irc nickname irc.colorado.edu
substitute whatever you want for nickname. irc.colorado.edu is a server
that usually lets anyone on. you can try it without the server name if
your site specifies its own server.
once you are there, do this:
/join #ytsejam <return>
this will put you on the channel.
then do this:
/who #ytsejam
this will tell you who else is on the channel. "ytsejam" is the bot, which
is just a program that keeps the channel alive when noone is there, and
does various chores.
seeya there!...
**always looking for rush/dream theater/queensryche/king's x bootlegs**
=============================================================================
Voices repeating me, Brian V. Cox Voices discussing me,
"Feeling threatened? lerxst@tamu.edu "Others steal your thoughts
We reflect your hopes Dream Theater- They're not confined
and fears." A Mind Beside Itself: II. Voices Within your mind."
=============================================================================
check out my new homepage: http://tam2000.tamu.edu/~bvc8995
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 20:52:33 -0400
From: Maraya007@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: *ahem*
Message-ID: <950710205102_29908788@aol.com>
I must extend complete gratitude to everyone who has emailed
me with nothing but sympathy (and a touch of amusement)
for that mispost the other day - I honestly was expecting to
be shredded to bytes for posting that to a list that's read by
several hundred people (yikes!), regardless of the fact that
it was a horrible mistake, made at a time when I wasn't quite
the model of coherency. Also, Ken - if you're the one who
discovered the mistake and inserted my note of apology
directly after the "tale of a rotten night" (for the benefit of
everyone else, I wrote it about 10 hours later, when someone informed me of
the mispost, and under normal circumstances,
it wouldn't have appeared until today) - THANK YOU!
Jaime the (still embarrassed) Dragon
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 14:15:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam )
Subject: Kevin Moore
Message-ID: <199507101815.OAA18515@grex.cyberspace.org>
I brought out my copy of Kevin Moore's demo again, and for some reason
this time it really connected with me and I can't seem to put the thing
away.
Does anybody know what he is up to? Is he going to do an album? Does he
need us to petition a record company? If so, He's got my signature.
-John
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 21:56:53 -0400
From: jjens@osf1.gmu.edu (tooler)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: IRC site
Message-ID: <9507110156.AA02502@osf1.gmu.edu>
howdy folx,
i just finished catching up my mail since 6/6 so i'm a bit behind...
about #ytsejam:
tBFKag (the Bot Formerly Known as gEAr) was/is mine. it's now YtseJam until
someone comes up w/ a better nick - YtseServ has already been rejected,
thank you :) anyway, it *is* a real bot, not just an account that's sitting
idle.
it's only purpose is to keep the # (channel for you non-IRC.heads) open and
the /topic up so that ppl can SEE it. eventually i'd like to get the FAQ,
lyrics, and other files available for DCC.
i thought i had set it up so that it would only op ppl and not deop; guess i
was wrong - sorry Kylania. i'm adding ppl to the aop list as i see them
(Kylania, i had added you but the bot died b4 the list could be saved) and i
will add every 'Jammer who comes on. but i do have some resemblence of a
life and i *do* have to work (contrary to popular belief) so this will take
time. plz bear w/ the rude deopping (i sure hope no one was kicked...) until
i fix it. i did minor repairs today - Brian Cox is my witness. howdy Brian -
and i'll continue more tomorrow.
if this gets too fukd, i'll just kill the bastard or hand it off to someone
else (great song, btw). if you have trouble w/ the bot, send me email to:
jjens@gmu.edu and i'll try and fix the prob(s).
sorry for the trouble and i'm sure most of you skipped reading this cuz u
think IRC.heads have no lives etc etc. :)
later,
-john (tooler on IRC #ytsejam nastydeoppingbotowner, #altmusic junkie)
john c. jens, jr. jjens@gmu.edu http://www.site.gmu.edu/~jjens/
"I know nothing of God, or the Devil. I have never seen a vison nor learned
a secret that would damn or save my soul." Anne Rice
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 22:12:31 -0400
From: JamesArin@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Mind Controll/ Unwired
Message-ID: <950710221229_112057661@aol.com>
Mike the Mind Controll boot is the same show as the Tokyo Japan 1/24/95
video. The two additional tracks are The Silent Man and Tears.
As for Unwired I NEED TO KNOW the details on this if anyone has any info
please post. I believe Andrew Keegan mentioned seeing Unwired do you know
anthing about it like songs, date of show, venue, demos?
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 22:39:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: similarities engine/ arcade question
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950710222547.11747A-100000@galaxian.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Sometime ago, the SIm. Engine (http://www.webcom.com/~se) was mentioned
You geet there, enter 5 fave albums, and it returns an e-mail list of
albums you'd like.........with 5 faves entered of "I&W", "Presto",
"operation:mindcrime", etc. it returned Awake at the top o' my list, so
i'd say it can't be too bad..... :)
I also was Fates Warning top-heavy, so thanks qGhost for the best'o'Fates
tip.
1 surprise at the top was a band called arcade, album of the same name
that was designated a 'guaranteed' liking.....anyone ever hear of them?
any good?
partha mukhopadhyay
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 20:06:32 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Subconscious CD prices
Message-ID: <199507110306.UAA20320@bud.indirect.com>
Hey all..
Checked out Tom Pierce's Rock Rarities Price Guide off the netcom
server the other day, and lo and behold, the entry for Subconscious had
changed... now that it's out of print, it's listed as selling for $75 new
(average net price) and was rated 5 stars out of 5. Needless to say, I
appreciate the good rating, but now I'm hitting myself over the head for
selling all the copies at the regular rate of $25! :)
If I'd known the price would jump like that, I'd have kept a few.
What brought this to my attention to post to the list, was
concerned mail from some people who were complaining that this sets
sellers of Subconscious up to gouge people. I don't see as how I can be
any help, but I hope nobody sells it for really bad prices... I'd hope
nobody takes up an offer that is too high. But I really can't do anything
about it if someone offers it for $75 and it sells...
In other, better news... Cygnus is, to quote Pocahontas, "Just
around the riverbend!!!" To follow, Acoustic Dreams. I *might* be able to
squeeze Live's first album, "Death of a Dictionary" (looooong out of
print) onto it also, would anyone be okay with that? If not, I'll
continue to gather other DT rarities to include.
Those of you who still want a chance at the videos... there are
some slots left still, so get those pre-orders in! If nothing else,
you'll get your CD sooner than if you wait. :)
$23 check or Mo to:
Mike Bahr
3175 N. Price Rd. #1066
Chandler, AZ 85224
Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 22:52:06 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: garion@indirect.com
Subject: CYGNUS, ACOUSTIC DREAMS
Message-ID: <199507110552.WAA09700@bud.indirect.com>
CYGNUS CD PROJECT UPDATE / SUBCONSCIOUS CONCLUSION
ACOUSTIC DREAMS UPDATE
current to 7/11/95
This is an update on the status of orders and such things on the
Rush "Cygnus" CD... made available exclusively to the members of the Ytsejam
list before anybody else. :)
EVEN QUICKER UPDATE: I am in a position to produce it immediately upon the
receipt of my supplies order. Thanks guys! I'm going to spend the interim
getting Acoustic Dreams together.
Here's the no-wait address and cost. Read on for further info on the CD.
$23 check, money order, or cashier's check/traveler's cheque to:
Michael Bahr
3175 N. Price Rd. #1066
Chandler, AZ 85224
PLEASE SPECIFY that it's Cygnus you want. I do a lot of mailing and may not
realize what it is that's being purchased.
QUICKIE UPDATE:
Well, we're still just waiting on delivery, that's all... everything else is
done. I have mailing packets, stamped and addressed to the first 60 or so
orders, sitting open like baby sparrows, waiting to be fed a CD and sent. :)
Because of how long it's taken my supplier (who assures me the CDs will be
on their way *real soon now*, I've done a redundant order with an out-of-
state company. Whichever gets here first, that's what I use.
This time, I know what I'm doing, so I'll have a lot of shipments
ready-to-go when the CDs are out of the gate, so to speak.
ACOUSTIC DREAMS: Also known as Dream Theater Unplugged. I have begun work on
this already and will begin taking orders for it shortly, possibly when the
shipments of Cygnus are in (why have two pre-order things going at once...)
or earlier if you all want. More info on this CD in a moment.
SUBCONSCIOUS: The CDs are finally _gone_. Every copy has been sold. I've even
sold my own personal extra copies. I can't believe this was so popular!
Will Subconscious ever be made again? Unless some Italian company copies it,
I am sorry to say it will not. One of the explicit conditions I set forth
when I made the disc was that it would be very special and limited, and I
would be breaking my confidence with the people who have bought it under the
understanding it would be a unique, rare release. I swear I don't mean to make
people miss out... but a promise is a promise. Would people trust me when I
say "get it now" if they could get it a year later? I calculate not. :)
THANKS EVERYONE for being a part of this! You all RULE! :)
DISCLAIMER: Cygnus falls into a grey area under law as an uncopyrighted
recording produced in such a manner that at least one facet of the production
occurs in a country (namely Italy) in which it is legal to do so. In the USA,
it is permissible to sell used import CDs only if they are labeled as such.
This is such a CD. Be aware that the various powers-that-be are collecting
nothing for this.
Of course, that's all cover-my-butt lawyerspeak. I hope you all will
want to be a part of this. I make roughly minimum wage doing it, so you know
I'm not out to scam you. In all humility, I appeal to anyone who might not
think too kindly of my endeavor, and ask that they might give me the benefit
of the doubt on this one. Friends? :)
1. What the hell is Cygnus?
2. When can I order and how?
3. For that matter, what the hell is Acoustic Dreams?
4. Orders received.
=============================================================================
1. What the hell is Cygnus?
Hi all, I'm Mike Bahr, humble maker of special edition CDs. Earlier
this year, I made available a special, _very_ limited edition Dream Theater
CD called Subconscious. I didn't know if the project would work at all,
since I had to use my own money to finance the project, and had to be very
close on costs to even make it a non-loss financially. But you responded,
Ytsejammers!
The CD sold, sold, and sold some more. In fact, the entire limited
edition print of 500 copies, each hand-numbered and signed in gold by myself,
sold out entirely to you, the most devoted fans of Dream Theater on earth.
And I do mean _Earth_! I got orders from the USA, Canada, Mexico,
Japan, Norway, Finland, Sweden, Austria, Great Britain, Ireland, Denmark,
the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Italy, Germany, France, Spain, Israel, Singapore,
Australia, New Zealand, Belgium, Greece, and a few more countries I am sure
I have forgotten to mention. Truly, the WORLD made Subconscious a success for
me and for the Jam, so I'm going to hope that Cygnus will be another one! My
heart goes out to all of you in every country of the world for joining in!
What I did was work with a pressing plant using rental equipment and
some of my own as well, and an exhausting three months of preparation,
packaging, and mailing, not to mention production of the CD, and a million
other things, and made it a reality. I was relieved beyond words when I read
the positive comments people had for it online.
Cygnus is the project I will do to fill the gap between Spring 1995's
Subconscious and Autumn 1995's WHEN DREAM AND JAMES UNITE. Cygnus will be a
recording from an ultra-rare Rush show, the single best sounding Rush show in
existence, from the mystical Hemispheres tour of 1978-79. I will only print
1000 copies... beyond that, there shall be no more.
Here's the information on the show.
Title: Rush "Cygnus"
Source: True soundboard reel-to-reel, original length 81 min
Running time: 73 min
Venue: Convention Center Arena (TCC Arena)
Location: Tucson, Arizona
Date: November 20, 1978
Generation: Transferred to 48kHz DAT from a 2nd gen analog.
Quality: Beyond comparison. Higher than "Oakland '92" and "Pinkpop".
Setlist:
Anthem
A Passage to Bangkok
By-Tor and the Snow Dog
I. At the Tobes of Hades
II. Across the Styx
III. Of The Battle
Xanadu
Something for Nothing
The Trees
Cygnus X-1 Book 1: The Voyage
Cygnus X-1 Book 2: Hemispheres
I. Prelude
II. Apollo
III. Dionysus
IV. Armageddon
V. Cygnus
VI. The Sphere
Circumstances
A Farewell to Kings
Note that La Villa Strangiato had to be cut or else I couldn't fit
the Cygnus saga on the CD! I'm sorry about that, I hope it won't kill the
experience for anybody. They had some sound problems during that song
anyhow, so in a way, maybe you _don't_ want to hear it.
Also on the original tape was a cut-off version of the beginning of 2112,
the Overture and then half of the Temples section. In order to make Cygnus
fit onto a single CD, I cut those seven minutes out of the DAT. Everyone
has a live 2112 on ATWAS album, anyway.
Now that I sort of "have the hang of it" where CDs are concerned, I
have put together some colorful art for the CD and cover. For those who didn't
get one, Subconscious had a gold-on-black motif, much like the Terminator-2
and Star Wars laserdisc box-sets. It was dignified, and direct. And now, for
Cygnus, I want to really make people say "wow!" The cover is pretty wicked
looking, I'll try and post a copy.
2. Where can I order and how?
Okay, here's the deal. Anyone remember how long it took my blanks
shipment to get to me when I did Subconscious? Twenty-nine days, it did. And
I placed the order for Cygnus blanks a few weeks ago. Used a faster supplier.
Now, this time, I originally had planned not to even ANNOUNCE Cygnus until
I had the CDs in hand. However, so many of you are leaving for the summer
and/or want early copies like last time, that I will go ahead and do a pre-
order deal again.
Why, you may ask, should I send the money, if I won't get the CD for
a while, though?
Well, you don't have to. But you can. I strongly urge you to consider
it. Here's why.
Here's how it works. I don't want anyone feeling uncomfortable sending
me a payment when in all truth, your CD might take a month to get to you. So
I will divulge as much information as I can to make it a sound decision on
your part. For those who wish to wait, there will be NO penalty; simply order
when I get the CDs in shipment. For those who order early, in an effort to
reward their confidence in my project and in gratitude for them getting the
ball rolling early, I will be shipping CDs out in the order they were
received... thus, you'll get it sooner. Furthermore, this time I'm going to
run a little contest. A random 25 people in the first 300 orders (this will
be done with a computer randomizer) will get a free copy of a special video
montage, just as an added bonus and a thank-you for being a part of this. I
think I might make two or three different montages and throw them in at
random into the sets... one Rush, one Dream Theater, one Live, one Queensryche
and maybe one of all sorts of progressive bands. Or more! :)
How to order!!!
Remember when Subconscious came out, and I said certain costs were
permanent, and had gone into the production cost? I didn't lie... Cygnus will
be CHEAPER than Subconscious was. The price will be $23. For anyone in Canada
ordering, add only $1 for postage. For anyone outside North America, add $2
for postage (so it would be the same price as Sub) and that will take care of
it. There's a lot of bean-counting that I do to come up with those numbers,
so trust me, it's what it amounts to. Plus, you can order as MANY Cygnus discs
as you want, because you on the Jam are getting a shot at it before I offer
it anywhere else.
Please use a money order if you can. The reason is simple: it's safe!
I know you paid and you know I have it (it's traceable). And you know if you
don't get a CD or a refund, I'll go to jail.
For international orders, I will indeed accept cash if you wish. I
urge you to be careful, because every order for Subconscious that contained
cash made it safely to me, but that might not always be the case. I don't
want anybody to lose their money. For orders of 2 or more Cygnus discs,
a travellers cheque or international money order is economical to use. If
you decide to use cash, please wrap it tight in a thick envelope and try to
hide it, so that nobody will steal it.
Please allow 6-8 weeks for delivery. It will actually be closer to
4 or 4 and a half weeks, but in order to be safe, I'm giving you the extreme
possibility. Understand that, as with Subconscious, I'll be making every
effort to get them sent fast and soon. And now, I know a few things I can be
doing to get them done faster than I did with Sub... like pre-making the
mailing lists, supplies, process, etc.
Here's what to do.
Send your payment, along with your Name, Address to ship it to, Internet
email address (in case I need to contact you), how MANY CDs you want, and,
optionally, your phone number. I say optionally, because I know some of you
want to keep them unlisted.
Send all this to:
Michael Bahr
3175 N. Price Rd. #1066
Chandler, AZ 85224 (USA)
If you wish to speak to me for any reason, including questions, comments,
suggestions, or you just want to chat with another dedicated fan of Rush and
Dream Theater, you are very welcome to call me at 1-602-777-0501. I am
usually home between 11am and 9pm Mountain Standard Time. Please use this
phone number with proper discretion, however, as I will be very confused if
you call me at 3:00 in the morning.
3. What the hell is Acoustic Dreams?
Well, this is the next CD I'm doing, also known as Dream Theater
Unplugged. We were given a VERY high-quality soundboard tape of DT's recent
Unplugged performance in Europe, and it can only be fully expressed in the
form of a CD. Trust me. :)
When can you order AD? Very soon, probably as soon as I get the
materials in for Cygnus, so I can have two concurrent releases. I'm working
on acquiring materials for it already. This will make me nearly broke this
summer, but I've pre-paid my rent, and I can live without food for awhile. :)
(yes, I'm exaggerating, but not by much. Time to run the first ever Ytsejam
Canned Food Drive! ha!)
Here's the tentative tracklisting from Acoustic Dreams...
1. Another Day (laid-back version)
2. Lifting Shadows off a Dream (IMHO, far better than the album version)
3. Wait For Sleep (acoustic GUITAR on this one, no piano!)
4. The Silent Man
5. Lie (boogie version) - this is really a trip to hear
6. Tears (Rush cover, done acoustically, very beautiful)
7. O Holy Night
The thing is, there is only about 45 minutes of stuff there. I wish I
could put Acoustic Dreams and WDAJU together, but WDAJU will be around 70
minutes. I'm looking for any other acoustic DT material you all might have...
remember, leave out the acoustic To Live Forever since that was on the
Subconscious CD. I may just put some other soundboard goodies on the tape,
even if they are electric, such as the Perfect Strangers cover where Bruce
Dickinson sings on it, and some instrumental goodies and/or song extras,
whatever I can come across.
One way or another, more music is going to be added to Acoustic
Dreams, as much as I can acquire collectible material for it.
4. Orders received.
This time, I'm in the thick of finishing the Sub project, and Cygnus
is coming along just dandy as well... and I will be able to confirm that an
order was received if you email me about it. I won't be posting a long list
to the Jam because of complaints I received about the Sub listing.
For the most part, all orders usually get through. If you want to
confirm yours PERSONALLY, feel free to do so, via email or voice.
Well that about wraps it up for this update of the CYGNUS CD project.
Everyone be excellent to each other, and party on dudes!
-Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com
"Or do you still wait for me, Dream (Theater) Giver,
just around the riverbend...?" - Pocahontas
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 22:48:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: "regular" metal
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950710224003.13681A-100000@choplifter.rs.itd.umich.edu>
My main hook for getting uninitiated people to try DT is by saying
they're sorta a mix between Rush and Metallica.....six months of getting
ytsejams has taught me that Rush is cool with most folks, but there isn't
that much mention of bands like metallica that play "regular" heavy
metal (as opposed to DT/Fates Warning 'prog metal), and I was curious as to
the opinions of y'all on that matter.....
I also ask because I got my first copy of I&W from a Metallica fan who
heard PMU on the radio, thought it sounded like Hetfield and Co., and
then didn't really like the album and unloaded for about half-price :)
partha
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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 00:21:46 -0500
From: craig_caldwell@tds.com (S. Craig Caldwell)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT & FW
Message-ID: <v01510108ac27b9033738@[165.159.121.29]>
This may have been discussed before....if so, please ignore it - I've only
been lurking around YTSEJAM for about 6-8 months, with this as my first
real posting:
Is it just me, or does the "Pull Me Under" video harken back to the cover
of Fates Warning's "Parallels" CD, which happened to be released at about
the same time as DT's I&W??? I've though this for several months, ever
since getting "Parallels" and wondered if anyone else agreed (BTW, a huge
____THANK____YOU_____ to everyone who has mentioned and recommended Fates
Warning on this list.....it inspired me to get "Parallels", which I now
HIGHLY recommend in turn, in addition to "Inside Out" (their latest
effort)). If you like DT, check out FW.
Anyway, the old guy in the PMU vid reminds me of the guy on the Parallels
cover, as does general scenario, as well as the little girl in the video.
Just my imagination?
(I'm sure you all HAVE already noticed that the statue recessed into the
wall of the "Parallels" cover is straight off of FW's "Perfect Symmetry"
cover, right?)
Just curious...
Craig
-------------------------+---------------------------------------------
S. Craig Caldwell |"Every day sends future to past
Trident Data Systems | Every breath leaves me one less to my last."
Fairfax, VA | - John Petrucci
<craig_caldwell@tds.com> | ("Pull Me Under" - Dream Theater)
-------------------------+---------------------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 21:32:55 -0700
From: mjnewb@ix.netcom.com (Monty Newberry )
To: ytsejam@arastar.com I think I posted this already,
Subject: Maiden (sorry no DT this time)
Message-ID: <199507110432.VAA22382@ix5.ix.netcom.com>
Anyway, Does anybody know about an album that was released a while back
where Iron Maiden did a live show at some small club under an assumed
name? I believe it contained mostly cover tunes (for some reason U2
and Springsteen keep coming to mind). I was in England about 2 1/2
years ago, and saw it at a record show/sale. I'm kicking myself HARD
for not picking it up. Any info would be greatly appreciated. God
bless.
Dale R. Newberry
"Man, when you lose your laugh, you lose your footing."
R.P. McMurphy - "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" by Ken Kesey
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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 00:48:45 -0400
From: ZapcoDT@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: I MUST SEE DT LIVE !!!!
Message-ID: <950711004844_30093897@aol.com>
I know people say this a lot, but "DOES ANYONE KNOW IF DT IS TOURING IN
THE US SOON?!?!?!?!?!" If someone's got ant info email me at
"ZapcoDT@aol.com"
Its a matter of life and death! All the DT sites on the web just give
U.K. tour dates from 3 months ago.
Also, can somebody tell me why Dream Theater's Japan releases have all
these nifty bonus tracks? What about their fanatics in the U.S.A. ???
And, as far as my favorite member of DT, I would have to say John P.
Mainly because I play guitar like a religion and PETRUCCI IS GOD!!!!
-ZapcoDT@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 22:51:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: BOC toured as....
Message-ID: <199507110551.AA26191@crl.crl.com>
....Soft White Underbelly.
[ to answer a trivia question. And to post another, which three Blue
Oyster Cult songs had lyrics written by Michael Moorcock? :) ]
-- +---------- Paul W. Cashman vanyel@crl.com ------------+ | Director, Pre-con Publications | | Dragon*Con/North American SF Convention July 13-16 | +---- "Let the Light Surround You" Dream Theater -------+------------------------------
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 02:09:22 -0400 (EDT) From: tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Subconscious CD prices Message-ID: <9507110609.AA00901@junix.ju.edu>
> Those of you who still want a chance at the videos... there are > some slots left still, so get those pre-orders in! If nothing else, > you'll get your CD sooner than if you wait. :) >
What videos??????
Trey Allen tallen@junix.ju.edu http://junix.ju.edu/usrwebpages/tallen/home.html
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